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61  Economy / Speculation / Re: Something is wrong. We cannot just gloss over the $100 sell on: February 12, 2014, 02:56:50 AM
The answer is really easy.

The feds butt RAPED the Silk Road guy in jail with a 2 by 4, until he squealed out his private key that unlocks his wallet.

So, with the 600,000 or so bitcoins in there, they went ahead and started selling lots at $100 per BTC, just so they could fuck with the exchanges.

Then they arrested the Bitstamp CEO and buttraped him too, and told him the story to put out. They found some skeleton in the Mt. Gox closet to black mail them also.

It's pretty fucking obvious, a caveman could figure this one out.

Start buying folks. The gubbamint is handing out free money, essentially, which is what they do best.
62  Economy / Speculation / Re: Coinbase will be next to halt withdrawals by Friday.. on: February 12, 2014, 02:52:04 AM
Not like I'm going to turn off my miners anytime soon.

All this FUD and BS is going to lead to a drop, and then, it's going to bounce up.

And, there is nothing wrong with people's wallets holding the BTC, just with DDOS attacks that mimic transactions.

There is nothing to freak out about. Yawn.

Back to mining and our regularly scheduled program.

And now, for a little Mozart.
63  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: {BFL} WHAT! :( Butterfly Lads won't deliver the Monarch Till March or April:( on: February 11, 2014, 04:17:37 AM

All I know was that my Jallys were 6 months late.

To me, whatever they claim, re-claim, counter-claim, fabricate and re-adjust has absolutely no credibility whatsoever.

By the time they ship, 600 Mh/s won't get you 0.05 BTC per day, if you're lucky.

You're better off buying whatever hardware you can get your hands on now for $2k, than waiting 3-6 months (if you're lucky) for a Monarch.

If you've pre-ordered, you screwed yourself, and have nobody else to blame.
64  Economy / Speculation / Re: rpietila Wall Observer - the Quality TA Thread ;) on: February 10, 2014, 04:49:53 AM
Hi. I want a glass of red wine.

I'll take some 18 yr old Laphroaig single malt pls, ice and water on the side.
65  Economy / Speculation / Re: HUGE PLUMMET TOMORROW! on: February 10, 2014, 04:48:09 AM
Oh please.

I've seen these types of "announcements" and threads on and off for a year.

The sky is not falling, the sun will rise, you will get up and empty your bladder.

Keep breathing, it will be ok.

Chill out man.
66  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Will the reckoning happen between BTC price and difficulty? on: February 09, 2014, 03:12:40 PM
You can still use your GPUs to mine scrypt coins.

I assure you that they are highly profitable.

 Grin
67  Economy / Economics / Re: FINANCIAL COLLAPSE FEAR MONGERING NEEDS TO STOP on: February 09, 2014, 12:01:38 AM
The economy has already collapsed, you just haven't realized it yet.

That's because of the slow inflation that has been robbing people of purchasing power ever since the Federal Reserve was created. The only thing that has been preventing people from realizing it is the continual debasement of the dollar, and also technological advancements in productivity. Bpth of those forces happen slowly, so people do not realize it.

But, if you took what $20 bought in 1913 (the passing of the Federal Reserve act), and compared it to what $20 bought today, you would realize it.

Back in 1913, $20 bought a man a nice suit, a nice dinner, and a nice hotel room for the night. Try doing that with $20 today.

Of course, if you kept that $20 in gold from 1913, you would still be able to afford a nice suit, a nice dinner and a nice hotel room for the night.

Moral of the story? Gold does not lie, but Congress does, and fiat paper loses value.

Have a nice day.
68  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: OFFICIAL Terrahash: News and Lawsuits on: January 31, 2014, 11:41:33 PM
You will probably see no single penny/bitcent


Nope.  One way or another I am going to monetize the judgement.  Worse case is I write off the judgement as un-collectable debt on my tax return and use the loss as an offset.  The judgement is sufficient documentation in case the IRS decides to challenge the write off.

That is an excellent point. So it means that, depending on your tax bracket, you could get some benefit out of it.
69  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: Computer hardware for 400-600GH/s hashing on: January 30, 2014, 10:48:45 PM


this is a joke right???
are you ducking serious???
Jalapeno??? Really??? Red-fury for couple of hundred bucks??? really???

LOL

You are aware how difficulty is high?Huh
you are aware that right now 60gh ASIC is considered worthless???
Jalapeno and red fury are nothing else but peace of history so throwing couple of hundred dollars on them doesn't make any sense.

Not anymore worthless than mining with graphics cards. LOL.

But yeah, kinda joking.

 Grin
70  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: Computer hardware for 400-600GH/s hashing on: January 30, 2014, 03:32:23 AM
If you want to mine BTC with graphics cards, and you don't care about electricity, that's fine too.

You need to go to www.coinish.com and enter your Mh/s and see how much you get.

I think CGminer stopped supporting graphics cards for BTC mining at about version 3.7.2 -ish, so you need an earlier version of CGminer or whatever other miner you want to use.

But, 2 x 7950's mining BTC will yield 0.00022924 coins per day, which is $0.19 (and burn about $1000 in power in 12 months).

You're better off buying a Jalepeno, or some red-fury's off E-bay and mess around with those for a couple of hundred bucks.

Even if you have free power, the graphics cards create heat, which even though it's winter now, at some point, you'll have to cool the room once the weather gets warm. And, fans running at full power are usually annoying.

At least you'll learn something about mining, looking at the bright side.
71  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [OPEN][Worldwide] Gridseed 1 chip + 5 chip Dual miners 0.105/0.405 btc on: January 29, 2014, 10:07:10 PM
What mining program can be used to mine with these? Or do you need that controller?

Is there a link for more info? Thanks.
72  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: PSU for over-clocked (200GH) Antminer on: January 28, 2014, 02:59:07 AM
Get at least a 600.

Most power supplies run more efficiently at 80% load.

If it's overclocked, it's sucking down at least 450 w, which is what mine did at 400 mhz.

By the way, some AntMiners get high hardware error rates at 400 mhz (mine did). I clocked it down to 375 and it's still running 450 w.

73  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: Computer hardware for 400-600GH/s hashing on: January 27, 2014, 05:03:45 AM
Lightyear69,

It used to be that computers were used to mine bitcoins, but now that's not done anymore. Those were the days of a couple of years ago.

Up until maybe August of 2013, you could still use graphics cards to mine, but those took a huge amount of power, and they became not profitable once ASICs (application specific integrated circuits) came out.

You can still use computers and GPUs (graphics cards) to mine what are called scrypt based miners, like Litecoin and other scrypt based coins, but you need pretty powerful graphics card, like 4-5 if you want to get anywhere with that, and a beefy power supply to boot.

As an example, I run 2x7950's in one computer for Litecoin mining (get about 1.1 Mh/s with both, it's a small setup with a 750 W power supply). You can't really put more than 2 of those cards with the case closed, because of the heat they generate and dissipate (200 Watts each, 400 watts total power to dissipate).

Most people who run many (4-5) graphics cards have open air rigs with powerful fans blowing on them and increased spacing between graphics cards so they do not burn each other up. I have not personally gone that route, mainly due to space and safety (kid) concerns.

As for bitcoin mining, to get to 400-600 Gh/s, you need some powerful miners, like several AntMiners, or a bunch of Singles, or a few newer Avalons, and burly power supplies.

My recommendation would be to start small, do not burn a lot of money, and configure any existing hardware you have to mine some litecoins, or maybe get a cheap ASIC off E-bay. Some of the older generation ASICs have come down in price. (like maybe a Jalepeno or Little Single). Or, get a redfury USB miner and run that for a bit.

Hope this helps.

74  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: [WTS] Jupiter / Saturn / Avalon - ALL MUST GO!!!!!!!!! (sort of) on: January 27, 2014, 04:48:23 AM
Pretty good offer.. if it doesnt work out 6.5 is my offer..
 The longer you hold the faster its value drops especially with hashfast and cointerra shipping enmasse..
Would you accept 7btc shipped to CA using SebastianJu as escrow?



Cointerra hasn't shipped a damned thing.

Hashfast shipped one stinking unit before Jan 1st, just so they could claim they met their shipping deadline.

So far, it's all Vaporware.
75  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Next difficulty ~2,000,000,000? on: January 26, 2014, 10:17:28 PM
Cool !

I was a little surprised by the new difficulty too. I thought it would be higher.
76  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: No ROI on future Mining, its a FACT! on: January 26, 2014, 07:34:28 PM

Since you have no interest in a discussion based in reality, go do whatever you want.

Hand waving about dollar depreciation is meaningless when inflation is 4% a year and your are comparing to mining difficulty which inflates 30% every 2 weeks.

You may want to check your statistics.

Inflation is running at WAY more than 4% a year (the data below is for the US), and lots of other places, like Zimbabwe, Venezuela, and just about everywhere else in the world.

Seehttp://www.shadowstats.com/alternate_data/inflation-charts

As for the reality of rising mining difficulty, it makes BTC harder to get.

This means increasing difficulty runs opposite that of inflation, thus the rising difficulty level is a measure of deflation.

Increasing difficulty is a good thing, it makes BTC more scarce, and leads to a balance between inflation (the increasing number of BTC), and deflation (rise in difficulty, making new BTC harder to get). You can't print BTC, unlike every other fiat currency out there.
77  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: No ROI on future Mining, its a FACT! on: January 26, 2014, 02:20:40 PM
That's an awesome story Edgar.

I do have to pay more attention to the other namecoins.

Thank you.
78  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: Hashertech.com Group buy question. on: January 26, 2014, 02:47:01 AM
What's your track record running successful group buys?

Links pls.

Thanks.
79  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: BITMAIN Antminer support and OverClocking thread on: January 26, 2014, 01:55:37 AM
Confirmed, using 375 MHz and 37 timeout is hashing at about 200 Ghash/s
        option 'freq_value'     '4e81'  #375M
        option 'chip_freq'      '375'         
        option 'timeout'        '37'

At 400 Mhz, I got way too many hardware errors, like 50%...so, I'm trying the 375 settings.

Dunno why that was so high errors, but I guess it's just the luck of the draw.
80  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: No ROI on future Mining, its a FACT! on: January 26, 2014, 12:32:30 AM

 
Why can't you understand that taking 5 BTC, or funds equal to it, and turning it into a machine that will only mine 2 BTC before the cost of operating it exceeds the revenue from mining is a bad plan?

Mining hardware is an option on future coins.  If you can buy equivalent coins now cheaper than the mining hardware it's a bad investment.  It might ALSO be a bad investment to buy coins but that is an independent decision.  The first question is can I acquire more coins in the future buying this gear?  And if so, does the gain in coins at some point in the future justify giving up access to the funds, and the risk of hardware failure, late or non-delivery, and pay for the work of operating the equipment.

So how is that different than buying Catterpillar stock, or IBM stock, or dumping $500/month into your mutual funds for retirement, hoping they will go up and you'll have enough to live on, assuming the government does not devalue the hard earned money you have saved up?

20 years from now, if the printing presses (or digital ones), keep rolling like they are now, you won't be able to buy a burger with $10,000, and your retirement will be worth crap.

I'd rather take my chances with Bitcoin than with the Federal Reserve and crappy government social security promises. Veteran's pensions just got cut, on the whims of Congress. What's to say that won't happen again, and again, and also with Social Security?

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