That is really good news sensei. thank you for the instructions, and thank Kano for the cgminer builds.

Hopefully, I'll get those miners in soon and try it out. Keeping my fingers crossed. Maybe once all these kinks get ironed out, Klondike will be the first out of the gate for generation 2 (assuming Avalon pulls it's head out of where it is now)...

Eligius has gone parabolic over the last month. From 20 TH/s to 60 TH/s as of a few weeks ago.

Pretty astounding actually.

Gives you a good example of where hashrate is going. To frigging Uranus.

I used to run my graphics card and the USB block erupters, and bfg miner or cg miner handled it just fine.

I've seen screenshots of usb erupters and bfl jalepeno machines, so if it's a decent stable machine, it should handle it just fine.

That way, you can tear up the other machine and figure out what's wrong it it (reinstall operating system, whatever it takes).

Saves on power bills too.

Nobody is getting scammed guys. We all got screwed, Steamboat included, by the delay in chips.

Like the man said, nobody who wants refunds will be refused.

Patience.

Well, what works for you, may not work for other people.

It's pretty much irrelevant at this point. Make whatever decision you're comfortable with, and stop trying to interpret what other people are doing.

Your spreadsheet, while quite nice, does not reflect certain realities.

Probably depends on the number of chips. Looks like you could put up to 7 chips on there, but I imagine it would work with 2-6 also.

Nice work.

Very nice !

Hopefully, this spells good news for the Klondike and derivative designs that sprang up from it.

Looks like the various problems are on their way to being solved.

So right now, assuming we had working K16, you would need one USB port per K16, as the klego connectors and the firmware to drive them properly would not work.

Right?

Depends on what the price for the "clearance sale" chips, I admit. But, Redhash is quoting about 900 W per 105 Gh/s of old Avalon chips.

The power costs will be the deciding factor.

I'll believe it when I see it.

Ever wonder why the world "lie" is in the middle of believe ?

Strange coincidence, isn't it?

Well, I'm impressed. This is the way to execute, not what BFL and Avalon did.

I hope other people will take notice on how to do things. Yes, they took a risk, and will not make as much as they hoped they would.

Welcome to having balls in the real world.

What a complete crock of shit.

First, avalon screws their customers over by not shipping promised "no bullshit" chips on time.

Second, customers that paid full price either get chips, or a refund.

Third, Avalon announces a "clearance sale" on refunded chips, that probably will never make ROI unless BTC goes astronomical.

Fourth, Avalon screws over existing, late chip customers AGAIN, by cutting the price on late chips that they paid full price on.

Why exactly would anybody deal with this company again?

What a crock of shit.

So FIRST they delay shipping of chips, screwing their customers.

Secondly, they ship the chips that everybody paid full price for, while refunding others.

Third, they announce a clearance sale on refunded chips.

Fourth, that effectively screws the customers who got delayed chips at full price.

What is the incentive to buy Avalon chips again? I must have missed that one.

That is wonderful news. I'm sure that if anybody can get it ironed out, it's those guys.

I'm mining more beer money for you guys with my block erupters as I type this.

Can I just compile it with the --enable-klondike --enable icarus from your git and maybe I won't get stupid usb problems anymore? Do I still need to install libusb?

I don't have a klondike (yet), but I can use the usb block erupters to see if the usb problems that I had before are still there.

Try this.

Open a shell in your download folder. I'm using Linux Mint 14.

sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get install autoconf libtool libncurses-dev yasm curl libcurl4-openssl-dev pkg-config libusb-1.0

git clone https://github.com/bkkcoins/cgminer-klondike
cd cgminer-klondike
./autogen.sh --disable-opencl --disable-adl --enable-klondike—enable-icarus (this was for me trying to get the icarus stuff working, you don't have to do it if you have no block erupters)

That was from Bkkcoins directly, and it did work to compile, but it only drove my block erupters (I don't have a klondike yet), to 110 mh/s.

Problem is, you have to install the libusb extensions..and I haven't figured out that part yet...


Hopefully, there will be a working klondike cgminer soon. I think somebody is working on it.

It wasn't Terrahash's E-bay acccount. It was obviously some other person, in retrospect, but it was still pretty PREMATURE.

And now, because of all the troubles with Avalon shipping, it basically means people got scammed, literally. Whether it was intentional or not, it doesn't matter, the end result is the same as a scam, therefore it was/is a scam.

As for the Klondike project, there are still quite a number of people that are still working on getting this right, and I believe its VERY close to working.

Regardless of what happens, Bkkcoins is a hero, and eventually, other people were going to be involved with it/take it over anyway. So this is just the natural progression of things.

There has already been a HUGE amount of development work for the K16, and in my humble opinion, it would be completely foolish to throw it all away. Avalon (regardless of what I think of them, it aint good..), has already said that their 55 nm chip will be pin compatible with their older generation, but it will obviously be more power efficient.

So, at least to my mind, it would be GREATLY beneficial to take advantage of all this development work already done for the 110 nm chips, and have it be ready for the new generation chips when they do arrive. To throw it all away would be pretty foolish.

There are actually still examples of K16 hashing out there, and I think we would have had these problems anyway, even if Avalon had shipped the chips on time. It's just the natural progression of things, and I think the future still looks good for the K16. How do I know this? Well, let's just say I'm an optimist, for a good reason or two.

Well, if you guys get the K16 firmware sorted out, I will personally send you BTC for beer. Pls post a donation address.

I think one of the group buys that I'm in on, Steamboat's, is also working on the firmware issue.

I looked at the firmware, but there seem to be problems that I'm way out of my league on, so, I'm offering beer coins to whoever gets it solved.

I did a test transfer a little while back. Worked pretty good.

I guess wait for your ticket to be resolved. Sometimes whatever applet they do hiccups, usually CampBX claims it's the Dwolla side.

Give it a day, check the Dwolla balance and see if it left. If it didn't get to CampBX, then you have a problem and need to take it up with them.

It's pretty interesting to observe that when I was sending in money for each batch order, the confirmation e-mails came within a day of having sent the BTC.

Now that I've requested a refund for all my batch orders, along with the transaction ID's, signatures, etc for everything, there is not even a confirmation that the refund has been submitted, or submitted properly.

So, does that mean if I missed a 6 on one of my transaction ID's or anything (which, I don't think I did), does that just invalidate the entire refund for ALL of my transactions on this group buy? Does that mean ANOTHER 12 day wait with no confirmation, no nothing?

Bueller? Bueller? Anybody?

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Thanks, but take me off the list.