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Those who cannot differentiate between matrilineal and patriarchal should understand that they have the privelige of making inept claims.
The inevitible isolated series of examples of women abusing men can never equal the everyday experience of all women's oppression by men.
Centralizing power in the hands of men is insane, as I'm sure we all agree. Unwittingly, when one buys the line that feminists are incorrect, one maintains the centralization of power.
What objections to feminism can one have?
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Matrilinial culture is a culture that does not rely on state issued receipts called birth certificates that determine one's surname.
We can see the nuclear family disintigrating, and we cheer.
Voluntary communities where Fathers do not own their children are in the near future.
...where fathers no longer own children (an inept claim), but the mothers own the fathers. Sexism - both ends - sucks. The idea that one needs to think of "both ends" is quite absurd. Its plain to see that throughout eurocentric history, women have never dominated and subjugated men to any degree remotely comparable to what is still today the norm of phallocentric thinking. When we speak of ineptitude, the idea that sexism is not directed at "the weaker sex" takes the cake for ineptness. |
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ktttn could you please state your points in an understandable manner so that we might actually address them, please?
You seem to be bothered by something and have very strong opinions about it, but I can't really figure out what it is.
:::crickets::: I am shocked at the lack of reply! Shocked I tell you! I think she's at some conference/hippie gathering or something and might be temporarily out of free wifi range. I think some stray neuron of mine stored this information after reading another thread. (Might be the blocked Capitalism thread). Obviously gender seems very important to her for some reason. Actually I'm living out of my backpack in downtown San Antonio, working as an artist. Gender is a huge part of my life. Bitcoin is about letting wealth redistribute itself, circumventing entrenched and oppressive patriarchal power structures. The oldest form of subjugation is that of women. Men often cite, from removed observation and not experience, that subjugation of that sort has ended or tapered off. The nuclear family as the basis for the structure of the lives of the people who run LLCs and the like should be criticized. The state and its conjoined twin capitalism are in fact the root problem that an alternative currency and seperatist economy seek to tackle and abolish. Id like to use this thread to discuss how a decentralized economic society will react to notions of manhood and mysogyny. I'd like to discuss and bring to light how the hypocritical antifeminist stance of reactionary, statusquo maintaining bullshit is as harmful as banking, knavery, government control and other forms of domination of opressed classes. |
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Bump.
Any antifeminists out there want to bitch about how oppressed you are?
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http://www.womynkind.org/scum.htm<begin unpopular opinion> Cismen are an obsolete evolutionary fluke, and are not strictly real people. If I could pick a eugenic genocide, it would be the genocide of cismen. Some of he half-ass feminism making its rounds these days is pandering to the inferior sex, and is as reactionary as this men's rights garbage that I've not bothered to consume. "Womyn" is also reactionary. Chickenkind:rooster:hen::mankind:cisman:human <end unpopular opinion> This can't be real... It has to be some sort of Swiftian satire. This supposed enlightened "womyn" has no understanding of the most basic tenants of biology. Neither sex is superior or inferior, and both exist for a reason. Bisexual reproduction confers the great benefits of biodiversity through the process of recombination. Interestingly the author calls the y chromosome some mutant form of the "X gene" (don't get me started on the concept of calling the X chromosome a gene...). Therefore men are inferior because they lack a second copy (they already have one, XY) of the X chromosome. By the authors own logic, "womyn" must be retarded due to polysomy, because they posses an unnecessary copy of "X gene". The fact they have an excess X chromosome is like trisomy 13, 18 or 21. After all mother nature has shown us that humans only need one copy of the X chromosome to survive. Having increased copies of genetic material (and therefore increased gene dosage) leads to the symptoms associated with these disorders. How can a "womyn" survive when she clearly only needs one X chromosome like those evil males? /end sarcasm If you want the answer to the above question though, read about x inactivation. Fascinating stuff. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X-inactivation Behold, the post of someone who responds only to the blatantly psuedoscientific first paragraph of a not scientific cultural manifesto. XX/XY is not the point. You entirely missed the entire point. |
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ktttn, you should get a life.
True facts. In 2 hours I will be leaving Texas to hitchhike to the Montana Rainbow Gathering. Other than that, I got nothin but my edgy theories and this smartphone. U jelly? No? Ok. Am I supposed to be impressed that you are hitchhiking to Montana? When I was 21 I hitchhiked from Tunis to Marrakesh, sleeping most nights in the dirt wrapped in a burnoose. So don't try to impress me. Do I jelly?? What the hell does that mean? As far as impressed goes, I give no fucks. I am impresaed though. I was just trying to show how I'm following your lifegetting advice.. |
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The only economic philosophy that respects the right of people to transact bitcoins without interference is capitalism.
Capitalism is an invenion of the state. Without bureaucracy and state sanctioning, capitalism is not possble. The very idea of a free capitalism is oxymoronic, because it relies on protection of claims on private property. |
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So: E-gold operators arrested and jailed for unlicensed money transactions E-Bullion operators arrested and jailed for unlicensed money transactions Liberty Dollar owner jailed for variety of bullshit charges Liberty Reserve operators arrested for unlicensed money transactions Russian payment gateway operators kidnapped and extradited for enabling online gambling TBF members ...  In my opinion it is for the good of Bitcoin system: - the legal fiction called TBF either dissolves - or developers leave TBF and remain independent. It is neither safe nor noble for the devs to be associated with this business organization. The suit and white collar guys from TBF (businessmen) who wanted to play with fire by hiring lobbyists to get intimate with regulators / legislators to promote their present and future businesses at the expense of Bitcoin system development - well, let them get burned (hopefully not severely). Let them and their lobbyists wage silly legal battles. Even thou California objectively derped, the worstcase scenario, besides Gavin &co getting waterboarded forever, isn't so bad. |
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Those bitter little PMs you sent my way are all the reward i need  I haven't a stance. Maybe that's why its vague to you? I don't have the answers to "the way things ought to be" and yet am deeply curious about those who do. So here I am bemused by your random potshots apropos of nothing, but not at all enlightened by them. All you have taught me yet is that "the way things ought to be" would include fewer folks inclined to behave like yourself. So lets pause to figure that out. Inexplicably you seem to be enjoying inspiring emotions in other folks that they are not enjoying. Why is that? I feel as if you're not fully open with me, NewLiberty, as if something's ... left unsaid. If not for your otherwise irreprochable manners, i may have read a hint of anger or even malice into your piqued tone. Tell me i'm a fool to worry? MODS. shitposting sucks |
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Back to capitalism.
It is an error to dismiss the negative connotations of the word.
It's an error to dismiss the many negative connotations of transgenderism, sexual ambiguity, and homosexuality, yet... Capitalism is intrinsically linked to wage slavery and violently private posession of all public resources.
It's not really wage "slavery," since if you don't like the wage, just go find another job. You won't have a posse tracking you down, hogtying you, and bringing you back to your old position. There's slavery, and there's the personal choice to work or not. By the way, how do you have private possession of public resources? Who decided they are public or private, and why are they conflicting with each other? I am often prevented from taking personal posession of public property by capitalists and cops. New boss, old boss. wage slavery, abject poverty or luck and access to resources. These three options are all capitalism offers. |
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So, "The Government" created a "Financial Instrument," said "This financial instrument has value, so you soldiers better take it and use it, or else we'll make yourselves enforce yourselves to use it by making you hold your own guns to your heads," and that's that? Yeah, makes complete sense.
Ohboy. You're sharper than a blanket. No. The government didn't create anything. The people needed a financial instrument, and its overseers, thus creating The Government. When things don't make sense to you, just remember that God still loves you even though your head's filled with lint & mouse droppings. Chin up!  Aside from the fact that government isn't a "financial instrument" by ANY definition, at any time in history, anywhere on the planet (banks ate the closest you can come to claiming that; governments are only administrative instruments) Here's the part you missed: ...
Armies are currently being paid for with money collected from businesses, corporations, and wealthy individuals. All of them have a vested interest in protecting their own property, and all of them would be able to pay the exact same amount they are paying now to get AT LEAST the exact same amount of private security to secure their property.
I am sorry I overestimated the lot of you. Ever heard of "economies of scale"? The Libertarian pipe-dream, summarized:-Toll booths on every bridge and at the end of every road. -Fences around every park and ticket booths. -Ad hoc guilt-ridden individuals 'volunteering' to pay hundreds of individual charities that specialize in things like: feeding the homeless, old-folks' homes, smallpox vaccines, educating the poor... (All that "community" crap that stops the unenlightened lower classes from lynch-mobbing the rich for being too financially successful.) -Individually paying dozens of security contractors to secure the various trade routes for your food, water, and fuel. -Local mini-Foxconn factories producing a few dozen Apple-like products per year for their local hipster communities. - (Didn't really get to mention currencies... maybe another time...) Doesn't that sound fucking inefficient?-To avoid being paralysed by paperwork, why not have some entity that consolidates a lot of that minor crap? -And what's the point of having 100% accurate accounting (e.g.: tracking who used what road with how much tonnage?) if the tracking makes the overhead far higher than the 'losses' caused by doing guesstimates instead? -Mini smart-phone factories in every village is obviously inefficient bullshit. Corporations growing to monstrous sizes is not a result of government meddling, it's just more efficient that way. One exception here seems to be the US' "War On Terror" exploiting the Middle East for cheap oil, thus maintaining cheap supply lines. Without extremely cheap transport, many international corporations would probably collapse. Perhaps in this case, violence (evil as it may be) is more efficient than letting the Arabs restrict oil supplies and build more desert palaces? So if governments are evil phantoms with sham democratic processes, so what? Why not just call them private monarchies? Just reject the whole concept of 'public' and learn to love your (private, Capitalist) Big Brother. Being is hard when someone owns every inch of the ground you walk on. When shelter and food are proprietary I get a bad, bad sunburn and a hungryness. |
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I carry around my folded up stat sheet from Shadowrun the roleplaying game.
It's one of my prized possessions. Shame I never got to play the character much. I was a troll medic tank with emphasis on magic.
Thanks for the read, op.
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The job market is just more women friendly, it's easy for a female to find a job.
Let's talk about sex work, shall we? |
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ktttn, you should get a life.
True facts. In 2 hours I will be leaving Texas to hitchhike to the Montana Rainbow Gathering. Other than that, I got nothin but my edgy theories and this smartphone. U jelly? No? Ok. |
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tracing one's lineage through mothers of any gender is the crucial part, as opposed to relying on state documents.
Question ... and please, keep in mind that this is coming from someone who is a royal count, with a very rich family history spanning centuries, from Italy, through Poland, Russia, and Ukraine, from someone who comes from a long history of very prominent and well known scientists, who's great*3-grandfather even has a giant portrait and permanent exhibit at the National Air and Space Museum in Washington DC ... Why bother tracing one's lineage, whether through mothers or fathers, in the first place? What's so special about the dead people you came from? Tracking the genetic and situational-familial predispositions that may tend towards skill in arbitration gives you an arbitrary way to distinguish arbitrators. Kings made kings cause it was convenient. Other than that super-marginal factor, nothing. 1) Making sure you don't inter-breed with your relatives and make mutant babies. That's one good reason for all those naming conventions. 2) Nurture, which as a concept blended-in with nepotism, was (and still is) a strong motivator to pass on knowledge and cultural things that might be useful for the next generation. In spite of the usual "history is written by the victor" claims, some history is passed on by nurture -- anything from trade secrets, through to life attitudes. People aren't primitive snakes or lizards that lay eggs and abandon the nest before they hatch. Why single-out arbitration? 1) wut ie names have never kept cousins from kissin' 2) wut? Behaviorist here. Western history is mainly the history of war. There are only exceptions. See BF Skinner's 'Beyond Freedom & Dignity' Arbitration is the anarchical origin of authority. |
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In that sense, any society is "collectivist", as long as you don't move alone into the mountains and live there sulf-sufficiently.
Correct, any society is by definition collectivist. The opposite of society and collectivism is the self-sufficient community. But the hominidae can not live 'alone'. An 'individualist' life is possible within a collectivist, materialist society only. To live a non-collectivist life, the homines sapientes need the organisation of the non-patriarchal, anarchal, consanguineal community, which was organised non-monogamous, matrilineal (female choice), wherever it existed in the whole history of mankind, and which have been destroyed, slowly starting about 10'000 years ago, by organised violence of a complicity of priests and militarists, which is terrorising the planet until today. Damn well put. An open letter to anyone who does not accept the above text as true: Please get hit by a train. Sincerely, Ktyhn. |
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In that case, why not simply track relationships (family, friends, and business) and networks same as we do now? We are already slowly abandoning the idea of gender affecting our relationship and interaction with people, thanks to gender being mostly invisible online.
Why... not? The sooner the akashic record is downloadable, the better. Back to capitalism. It is an error to dismiss the negative connotations of the word. Capitalism is intrinsically linked to wage slavery and violently private posession of all public resources. |
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I'm hitchhiking to Montana tomorrow.
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There is nothing at all wrong with you or any individual being an exception to the rule. I would argue that a tendency to not be evil makes one less of a cisman- which is a good thing imo.
Words have meanings. If 'cisman' is not the word you actually mean when you use it, it would save a lot of confusion and talking past each other if you would define your word. Otherwise, your post states to people using accepted definitions that you think the world would be a better place with only females and transgendered people. I respond here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=241717.0 |
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There is nothing at all wrong with you or any individual being an exception to the rule. I would argue that a tendency to not be evil makes one less of a cisman- which is a good thing imo.
Words have meanings. If 'cisman' is not the word you actually mean when you use it, it would save a lot of confusion and talking past each other if you would define your word. Otherwise, your post states to people using accepted definitions that you think the world would be a better place with only females and transgendered people. Those words as they apply to people don't have static meanings. I think the world would be a better place with only <non-cismen>. This is my opinion. "Transgendered" has a lot of political baggage. To effectively be transgendered, one identifies with a former state being formerly valid. A degree of genderfluidity is implied. At the same time, somebody one might attempt to call transmen often reject the notion of being anything other than a human. Even further, some folks reject the notion of identification with human species. |
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