Just to clarify, the 20K USD minimum is for private sale stage. At presale and main sale you can buy as slow as 0.1ETH worth of Vanig Tokens and still get the discounts!
OK this is more clearer cos earlier on I was getting it all mixed up, thanks for this... What is the level currently of their Presale? When is it ending? Yeah the explanation made things clear for me too, the pre-sale will end on June 18th, on June 19th Sale Stage 1 will start. During the pre-sale 1 VANIG = 0.125 USD. |
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I just visited on telegram channel and found few people are talking there about listing on exchange. They said Bittwatt will list on 28th May. How is it possible? This is true news or some rumer?
Why not? ICO is ending on 27th May. It's already selected cross exchange. So listing on 28th may is possible. That is quite a rapid post-ico listing, hope there will be listing on more exchanges, good work bittwatt |
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thanks for the link. very informative. Above all, I find it interesting that they take GTX1060 for mining. I thought so far, this graphics card would be too old for that, but apparently very many are convinced that it is excellently suited for mining I in particular liked that there might be another power plant in puerto rico, also antminer s9 is considered for the asic variant |
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What kind of currencies we are using here to invest in ICO? Also FIAT option is available for ICO investment?
In their whitepaper i found out that they are accepting ETH and BTC, there is no Fiat payment option maybe in the future you could be able to pay with USD that would get investors who do not have ETH and BTC. Im not sure if there are any ICO crypto investors who don't have ETH or BTC, but do have USD. I think energy would be better spent in other developments. I don't think that is going to be a problem. All you need to do is convert fiat to either ETH or BTC I think there is a little more to it than that, for example legislation |
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Is there any airdrop available from Bitfence ICO ? I know that there is a bounty available, because there is a thread for that.
Nope and I’m hoping they don’t I rather they maintain a high value by giving away as few tokens as possible I think a limited amount for bounty and a small amount for marketing but for airdrop I find that doesn’t do much for the teams that have airdrops You're right, airdrop is good but has been known to cause more havoc than good because it took them little or nothing to get the tokens and is human nature to take free things for granted, bitfence has been doing well and is best they stay that way rather than open any door for free airdrops at the moment, tokens should be streamlined to be gotten through bounties I prefer bounties over airdrops too, you can get a lot more in a bounty then in an airdrop and a lot of people usually dump their tokens if they have received it from an airdrop. Well, I don't totally agree with this. I feel it's against the general belief that bounty hunter do most of the early dumps in market. I mean just like you said you get more tokens from bounty activities and the more the token you have the greater the value of a coin who's price is $0.001 You are right about bounty hunters having a bigger impact on dumping on market, especially if the bounty tokens are released on a specific date. |
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5 days left till the completion of the ico but unfortunately i don't know total amount sold and amount raised but i hope the sale has been a successful one.
Same here. These datas are unknown to me too and I just want to believe too that we will hear something good at the end when it's all been updated and made public. estimating from the bar on their homepage I would say that about 80% of the tokens are sold, but it would have been better to see numbers indeed Yep one of the few things I dislike is the lack of a live sold number I really appreciate when ICOs put that in place but bittwatt isn’t the first by far to use a generic bar for progress I guess it’s just an internal design/marketing decision Live bar makes following token sales activities easier to follow and one can clearly figure out the amount of sales that is made per day. Indeed, this way one can also correlate news announcement with investment gains |
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If you have solar panels on the roof and go on vacation, then much of the energy generated goes into the local power grid. And almost for free
With Bittwatt you can save the future in storage power plants and retrieve after the holiday again. Cool feature
You mean to say that we can stored energy our local power grid and whenever we want that we can use it?  Kinda like what Tesla did in Australia, built a huge solar capacitor that stored energy till it's needed, I assume as the token 'stores' 1KW of energy, if you hold 100 tokens, that's 100KW you can use as and when you want. Sounds very cool. And it could be the most profitable bussiness in such continents as Africa or Middle Asia where they have more that 290 sunny days in a year. It's nice to hear that. I know about solar panels and their storage. Thanks Darkoth89 for this calculation. I'll definitely hold more than 100 tokens which is will receive from ICO. Such a crazy thought to tihnk you can use 100KW of electricity for every 100 tokens you hold. how does this work? How can I consume this "100KW " from my "100 tokens" 100 Bittwatt tokens = 100 KW energy? Sounds very interesting. But Bittwatt really going to store energy like what Tesla did in Australia or it just suggestions you guys giving? No they're not storing it that way, i was using that as example to explain how essentially the tokens ' store' electric. Oh you mean in the way that a token yields USD value, and with that USD value you can buy electricity? |
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Is there any airdrop available from Bitfence ICO ? I know that there is a bounty available, because there is a thread for that.
Nope and I’m hoping they don’t I rather they maintain a high value by giving away as few tokens as possible I think a limited amount for bounty and a small amount for marketing but for airdrop I find that doesn’t do much for the teams that have airdrops You're right, airdrop is good but has been known to cause more havoc than good because it took them little or nothing to get the tokens and is human nature to take free things for granted, bitfence has been doing well and is best they stay that way rather than open any door for free airdrops at the moment, tokens should be streamlined to be gotten through bounties I prefer bounties over airdrops too, you can get a lot more in a bounty then in an airdrop and a lot of people usually dump their tokens if they have received it from an airdrop. With bounties you get to do actual valuable work for the ICO rather then just supply a dummy email or join a page. I think bounties add more value when it comes to content generation that is mostly healthy for the community. Exactly, the project actually benefits from bounties with somewhat promotion, an airdrop is a way of advertising but not exactly for the right reasons, just advertising FREE MONEY essentially. I much prefer bountys as airdrops can impact a coin value of the project U agree with you guys. Bounties are there part of marketing using social media platforms. So bounty hunter should help in spreading the correct information about the project over social media. You can consider an Airdrop as a brief introduction to the ICO, whereas a bounty as a support to the ICO |
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What kind of currencies we are using here to invest in ICO? Also FIAT option is available for ICO investment?
In their whitepaper i found out that they are accepting ETH and BTC, there is no Fiat payment option maybe in the future you could be able to pay with USD that would get investors who do not have ETH and BTC. Im not sure if there are any ICO crypto investors who don't have ETH or BTC, but do have USD. I think energy would be better spent in other developments. |
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Well 11 days to the continuation of the ico... Fund raised still stand at about 42.1m. Team is really busy preparing for the sale. This should be over quickly.
36000 users already registered for the Token sale how fast do you think the sale will go? i am pretty sure we will all be amazed of how fast it will go. Well, till the date they did properly every activity/needed action on each and every moment/issues. Now the question is if 36000 users already registered then what time we could expect to reach their remaining target? I don't think all 36000 users registered to buy 4NEW tokens. We don't know how many people going to buy the tokens. But within 3 days its possible 4NEW reach hardcap as well. I am saying this based on what 4NEW have achieved till now. You mean to say that all registered will not buy tokens? That I am also not sure but if we open 4New homepage then you will find left bottom "36377 users already registered". Yes not all of them will buy, as i've said previously the requirement of the airdrop is to signup for an account, so don't expect 36,000 people to buy tokens at 9am on the 4th lol. Realistically i think there's a few thousand people who are going to buy from the Telegram chat that i've seen. I do think there will be a huge sale within the first 2 days and I expect to see atleast 30-40% sell within the first couple days. I'm sure they will hit the hardcap before the end of the sale Id love to see that happen especially for the project, but im not sure as it stands, im going to keep an eye and see how it does on the first day of the sale. It's just 3 days sale, and i think they need approx 30 million USD to reach hardcap (?). Do you guys think it's possible within 3 days to reach hardcap? I think it's possible, 4new have done very good work in last few weeks. Also, new plant discussion is going on which adds value to this project. I am excited about pre-listing sale. Is the new plant by coincidence in puerto rico? I read they want to get rid of hurricane waste this way https://www.benzinga.com/pressreleases/18/05/p11707686/4new-announces-formal-talks-to-establish-puerto-ricos-first-waste-to-e |
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Just to clarify, the 20K USD minimum is for private sale stage. At presale and main sale you can buy as slow as 0.1ETH worth of Vanig Tokens and still get the discounts!
sorry again, if I have caused confusion 0.1 ETH minimum is fair, so really everyone can participate in the ICO I finally have to remember the difference between private sale and presale:-) Thanks for clarification. By looking at amount I realised it was for private sale and not for main sale. Minimum 0.1 ETH will give opportunity to small investors. That is quite generous, 0.1 ETH is a very low minimum to be eligible for the pre-sale, I agree this way everyone should be able to participate |
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5 days left till the completion of the ico but unfortunately i don't know total amount sold and amount raised but i hope the sale has been a successful one.
Same here. These datas are unknown to me too and I just want to believe too that we will hear something good at the end when it's all been updated and made public. estimating from the bar on their homepage I would say that about 80% of the tokens are sold, but it would have been better to see numbers indeed |
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There's recently been a few various energy projects entering the cryptocurrency market. This one seems to be best poised to follow through with their plans.
They already are, two power plants bought producing 10 MW, another due to be built next year, and this other rumour in Puerto Rico. It ain't rumors bro, it's been confirmed by the team and its everywhere in the telegram group, one power plant to be set up in Puerto Rico is confirm news  So there will be 3 plants at the end of this year from 4new? that is amazing now those 22 plants in 5 years seem very close. Yep they are definitely moving fast and keeping ahead of their roadmap, so if they continue this pace the 5 year outlook is very possible i don't see why it wouldn't be monitoring their progress is going to be nuts to see. I'm hoping we get more videos and information from the existing plants and the new ones as they come up would be interesting to see webcams/dashboard with data eventually. I don't see a confirmation anywhere, only that they have entered talks to establish one, this is not confirmation that it is being built, can you link me to where it's confirmed? So far, I have only seen one video in which one of the 4New team speaks from the power plant in Puerto Rico. But as I know 4New meanwhile, they will simply surprise us and from one day to the next there is a video of a drone flight over the new power plant I have seen few energy-related projects but those are not similar to what 4NEW is doing. at last, I have not seen any project which planning to use waste to produce green energy. I believe green energy is called green when it is renewable, renewable energy is naturally replenishable energy sources on a human timescale |
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i thought i had read all published articles about bitfence, but i missed it. Also very informative, I would have needed to start, as I had not completely understood the system :-) But there are every day new interested in the forum, which helps the article for sure That article is also useful to understand what they mean with stingminers, which is how I found that article |
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This is such an interesting and innovative project, I'm sure there are a couple similar ones but I heard this one is getting way more positive responses. Energy trading is the future and this project looks way promising for me not to keep my eyes on it.
Well the beautiful thing about Bittwatt is that they employ blockchain technology. And we all know the beauty of blockchain, things like decentralization, transperancy and robustness. So Bittwatt are changing electricity trading. blockchain transactions are also immutable, this is also a big advantage over the old fashioned way of administration |
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There's recently been a few various energy projects entering the cryptocurrency market. This one seems to be best poised to follow through with their plans.
They already are, two power plants bought producing 10 MW, another due to be built next year, and this other rumour in Puerto Rico. It ain't rumors bro, it's been confirmed by the team and its everywhere in the telegram group, one power plant to be set up in Puerto Rico is confirm news So there will be 3 plants at the end of this year from 4new? that is amazing now those 22 plants in 5 years seem very close. Yep they are definitely moving fast and keeping ahead of their roadmap, so if they continue this pace the 5 year outlook is very possible i don't see why it wouldn't be monitoring their progress is going to be nuts to see. I'm hoping we get more videos and information from the existing plants and the new ones as they come up would be interesting to see webcams/dashboard with data eventually. I don't see a confirmation anywhere, only that they have entered talks to establish one, this is not confirmation that it is being built, can you link me to where it's confirmed? So far, I have only seen one video in which one of the 4New team speaks from the power plant in Puerto Rico. But as I know 4New meanwhile, they will simply surprise us and from one day to the next there is a video of a drone flight over the new power plant I always thought that the third plant won't be build before next year? I am waiting for a official statement on this. The thing I am looking forward the most is when one of the 2 operating plants will be used to mine crypto currencies and then the next step I am eagerly waiting for is the first payout I got for the tokens I am holding. The mining should already start in June. However, I do not know now whether it starts in both power plants or only in one. It was said that a mining container is already on the way and will be installed shortly. Maybe the second will come later. In any case, the mining should start soon and we will see the first results in a few weeks. I am also very curious Thanks for the update, using the generated electricity for cryptocurrency mining purposes is what 4New is about, curious to see this in effect |
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Hi! I just came to know about this project so don't have clear idea. I will check whitepaper and other documents for more info. But I always wanted to take professional help for crypto trading. It's seems that finally I found something interesting.
Also check out their telegram pinned posts and for questions their telegram support is quite good |
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I can see Emmie the hardworking CEO all smiles and at work, i have a good vibes about this project very much due to the hardworking nature of team especially CEO herself, thanks for the link and i think i have to on my notification so i get update real fast about the project on twitter I think they are in talks to incorporate in the US and they are just waiting to ensure the token is considered as a utility and not as a security. I think this is them sorting the incorporation out. I would be glad if their token is considered as utility, because right now most people are seeing cryptocurrency as a form of security. That is impeding the growth of cryptocurrency Why would it be bad for the crypto market if the tokens are seen as securities? as far as I know this just means more paperwork for the company and more paperwork for the citizen when doing taxes The single reason why crytocurrency is not widely accepted is because it is not widely accepted as a means of payment. Right now it is like gold. Just a means of securing asset. Hold on there do you mean to say long term or short term. Securing assets with cryptocurrency for short term is fine but on a long term will be risky for something which value is volatile and any small rumours can affect the price in both ways. P. S i am a strong believer in crypto btw. A lot of people don't know that the price of crypto is Fluctuating even if they do they don't know the implications. So to them crypto is extremely expensive if they can secure it they have gotten good money. They are seeing it as a long term means of securing asset it is important to look at it over the long term, most people are too weak for this or do not have the financial means. Compare the price of BTC year by year and there obvious growth, I am confident we are not even near the saturation point of BTC awareness |
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