The momentum is not that great yet but like you said, all we can do is to wait and see how the market is going to fair in coming days. There is a huge uncertainty even in the bitcoin market presently and I believe it would be a bit hard to see any serious participation in the market unless we are able to go past $8k. The crypto bulls look like they are around the corner though, looking at the ways the altcoin market has been acting lately, but like you said, patience is all that is needed right now.

It is normal to see such movements as this in a bear trend and most of the time when there is a huge uncertainty in the market. I know a lot of people have been quite optimistic and of the mindset that the value would keep increasing or the bulls are back in the market. I have still not seen an impressive volume as far as I am concerned, and as long as we are still below $8k, nothing is guaranteed. September has just started, so I guess we wait to see how it goes.

I would not count too much on that. For the general market though, the altcoins seems a whole lot optimistic to see some good growth but at the same time, this is one highly volatile market and the movement of bitcoin in any direction at this point, can affect the whole market badly.

I am still of the opinion that the bears are still around and we are not done yet with the downtrend as some people are already expecting some serious bullish momentum at this point in time. For what i can see, hitting $20k is a long way to go for this year but if we are saying in coming years, then, this is possible.

Had it been a bull trap you want to say ?

You may have a little bit of point in that, but at the same time, the fact that you have not seen it lower now does not mean it still cannot go lower. The only time the optimism of the market would change a little bit is to see bitcoin go above $8000 and be able to withhold on that price for a while, but from the look of things so far, I really do not think so and we would be lucky even if we reach $8k.

Bull trap in case you do not know the meaning, is when the market is moving in a direction where a lot of traders are hoping for a bullish momentum and all of a sudden starts dumping rapidly. We are not still far from it bro as this can still happen anytime.

Yes, it is very hard considering the fact that even government will not allow that. Fiat will still remain in a way, blockchain technology will be utilized by most banks in bringing about a new form of currency and apparently, there would be more interest in it as time goes on.

Nevertheless, this is something that can only and easily be applicable to developed countries and some developing countries. Like you said, in most of the third world, it would really take a huge one to be able to eliminate fiat. Still, no matter how much some may want fiat eliminated, this is one thing that is not very possible. Like you said yourself, there are still a lot of things we will always need fiat for, and apparently, no government can allow fiat to just get eliminated like that without at least a fight.

The best case in this whole issue is to have both going hand in hand just like it is, which is something I expect anyway as it is not everyone that will have a chance to make use of crypto as not everyone sure do have a chance to accessing technology or being vast in it.

Agreed 100%! It is indeed glaring to everyone how complex things are in this space and for the fact that most investors see it more as an investment and would rather hold than spend considering the level at which the value can reach eventually has made it more of a speculative asset than for it to be used as a currency.

We also cannot expect things to happen overnight, as all these things will be a gradual process until we achieve equilibrium, and this is where the idea of having a somewhat less volatile value will come in, but we all know it is actually not that easy and like you said, it is really easier said than done.

I have said this before and I will say it again if the bull comes it won't be here for a long period of time slowly, when it comes it hits you like a train and goes up so quickly that you are not prepared for any of it, you just watch the price increase before you can say anything or even start a topic it already went up in price 100% or so.

Last time there was a bull run and it was big on late November and early December it went up so high in 2 weeks that we didn't know what to do and it went up every single day. So, next time when you see a 5% or 10% raise, just check what happens afterwards, if the other day its like 2% or -2% or whatever than that is not a bull run. Bull run goes %10+ every single day.

Thanks for suggesting those sites. Let me check with them.

I usually do the 3 steps all the time and I have only found couple of coins that ever matched my criteria so maybe I am to conservative and the ones I invested failed miserably so I always failed to find a decent ICO and I am not sure if thats because I am bad at selecting ICO or the market dropped which caused my choices to fail.

I check the team of that ICO and see if there is anyone I ever knew before, if I heard their names thats already great, if not than I check where they worked before, if the team worked on big projects before than I trust them, if they have not worked on any big projects before why would I trust them with my money ?

Hence, in the end that decides on the step 1, than step 2 would be the white paper, see what they are trying to achieve, what problems they are trying to solve, if that problem was already solved by another coin already than I don't invest, if it was not and its actually a good problem they are fixing than I do go to step 3, which is checking the community if the community is crowded and everyone is talking about it and everyone is hyped and crazy about the upcoming release of the full version of the coin than I complete all three steps. However remember, none of the coins I invested has ever made me profit.

Research, I mean it, do not react to anything too quickly. People will keep telling you this coin or that coin or its going up so fast or going down so fast. In crypto the people who do not react too quickly wins by a big margin.

Stay cool, calm down research what you want to do read as much as you can and sleep on it and the next day if you still want to do it than you can do it.

If you react too quickly and do something silly than you lose money, when you lose money it starts to look like not a good idea and you start to shy away from the market, the best thing that can happen to a newbie is to make money first, if you start with making money than if you lose money you will know that there is still chance to make it back but when you start with losing money than you start to wonder if its even possible to make any money from this.

Well, this year has been a bearish year throughout, which affected even most of the tokens and coins listed on exchanges within this period. I believe for those who are smart enough though will be using this opportunity to pick them up as much as possible to get the best with respect to gains in the future. No one knows when market will recover, but whenever it is bound to recover, we had still been here reaping the benefit for those who could see the greatness in the future.

Existing coins or ICOs, they are all on the same path when the market recovers anyway and we cannot say specifically which would be giving the best gains until they start giving it. For what it's worth though, I would really be looking into some of the existing coins recently from ICOs trading below their ICO prices and has dropped hugely in percentage. With the ones with product, it makes it easy for them to really shoot up faster in percentage and in profit as well.

At the end of it all, I believe OP should use all these information and make further research online to make his decisions and be wise about it just as you said.

At this stage, just like you said initially, it is a mixed feeling and in cases like this, he would be better off to find an alternative or just thread with caution as the case may be. I have never used them either but not so comfortable with the reviews if I am asked.

However, some legendary accounts do claim it has been a very interesting experience on their ANN, which may be a bought review anyway.

One of it here - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2432870.msg39088600#msg39088600 and then later on this; https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2432870.msg43543604#msg43543604 from the same user and then again this - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2432870.msg43611042#msg43611042.
Just does your own due diligence as you have been told and follow your guts.

It would be really counterproductive for a bounty campaign to pay with ether.

Why would they even CONSIDER doing such a thing. They get paid in ether which will create enough investment for them to spend on making the token/coin better with better developers, better marketing, better fixes and many more stuff and just spend that ether for those purposes, making the coin better.

Yet if they give out ether, that is another ether cost they will have to pay from investments and not use for the betterment of the coin. They do give out their own coins so that their coins can hit the market soon with the investments and can create a circulation of that said coin in the market creating a supply/demand market for itself.

Dirk could have retired like two years ago, he is not making any big difference to mavs roster and he is only playing because that dude brought a championship to mavs almost all by himself.

During the era of multiple superstars getting together to win, remembering the time dirk and some role players won it really brings a lot more meaning to that championship, but he is playing only because of that rings worth, otherwise he would have been already forced to cut with the way he plays. Vince as well, both of them are not contributing to their teams like they used to, they are just playing because they were once amazing players.

It is quite an informative post indeed. I have always been more tend towards exchange coins or tokens anyway with the consideration that this will really be very useful with the way the market is growing every day and new traders as well as investors are being born.

From a statistics I have seen, they have been the fastest ones to raise funds even when it comes to ICOs, and that makes most people to also share the same mindset. I am never a fan of anonymous coin and I feel there would be more eyes on these ones eventually by the government.

The decisions you make normally in cryptocurrency investment should be based on how you perceive the future of a particular coin or token, whether it is something that would end up very useful in the long run, or something you really will not see much demand for it whether it is anonymous, pseudo anonymous, utility or whatever. Due diligence is necessary before investing into any project and then the importance of checking out the team as well.

What you are failing to tell us is what makes the wallet the best, the blockchain the best, and the faster than btc, well since it has the ability to process more transactions per second than btc anyway, we can give it that. No one is disputing the fact that ETH is a good one to hold and it has a lot of prospect in the long run, but this does not mean there still cannot be room for improvement and for it to be the first, it must be ready to give us even a better one than you are trying to claim.

I am not very sure where you got good news from CBOE from, but one thing I am sure of is that ETH is still an altcoin and all altcoins still remain the same as long as they cannot really stand on their own and everything is still fixed in movement when relating to bitcoin. That alone I believe is enough to suppress it from hitting the top. Also, all these fixation of people on the top is simply based only on market cap, and it is not like it really means much anyway.

I do not see government thinking it is risky for the people, I see it more like it being a threat to them but obviously, we cannot expect them to come out completely to say, 'stop bitcoin or cryptocurrency because it is a threat to us' but would rather find other disadvantages surrounding it, push it out like it is something that cannot be solved and use it as a stone they can step on.

I wonder when governments really cared about their citizens most especially in some third world countries and undeveloped countries banning it. It is normal to see complaints with in an unregulated space which is why at this stage; the government can still come up with lenient regulations to make things work in everyone's favor.

I think the problem is real and we really are going over to the period of when fossil fuels will be scarce and humanity will not go thru an easy adjustment period but honestly do you really believe all of humanity can go down in flames just because of this ?

I am pretty sure we are already finding a lot of clean energy sources for at least electricity and considering even the electric cars are getting more and more known all over the world and the solar panels and wind tribunes and nuclear energy and all of that getting more known and used by countries and get more help from governments it is getting a lot easier.

I agree that we are going to a bad place on fossil fuel problems but I do not believe the clean energy we have is "ridiculous", they are actually real cool and will help us out.

Trading view as always been a very good spot for me after I really got pissed off with coinigy laggy issues sometimes. When it comes to indicators, this is one place you will really see loads of them.

Also, tab trader is also one other useful tool as well which helps you to monitor live charts on the go for any of the cryptocurrency market and can even use your API to trade on them directly without stress. The only little thing here that does not really make it more like a desktop web app like coinigy or trading view is the number of indicators, but really for someone who is just swinging the market; it is still a very good option.

I still find it surprising when a lot of people think bitcoin is just going to be like a magic wand you just fling and voila, every problem becomes solved.

Poverty is something that would be hard to see go away and some of the things the OP mentioned are things that even blockchain cannot solve if the government still remains corrupt and people still live in penury.

With or without bitcoin, some governments in some rich countries would not even be in debt if funds are not looted and properly managed, people economy being improved from what I mentioned first, and then with people finding a way to make a good living, poverty level tend to decrease, but we all know that is a hard thing to get.

I doubt facebook will ever ban crypto since they are looking into it themselves. These new "bans" on bitcoin and other crypto currencies is just a temporary way to find a way to fix some glaring issues on phising and other ad related bad things going on, as soon as they figure out a new way to roll out advertisement with some protection to it just like in other fields the ads will come back.

I know people who spend hundreds of thousands of dollars on bitcoin advertisement on related projects, I am sure google and all others are making tens of millions of dollars from ad revenue thanks to bitcoin and the surge of interest to it, so there is no way they are keeping the ads banned for a long time.

Because ethereum is in a field of its own when it comes down to token creation.

All the new coins provide the new solutions are actually still dependant on ethereum because none of them are capable of providing the insane level of protection ethereum provides. Ethereum gives you right to claim what is yours on an ICO, provides that security and there is no other coin like that which makes ethereum the second biggest coin in the market.

From now on, I doubt any other coin will be as big as ethereum for providing a platform for ICO's to give out their coins (creating a market for it) for getting paid in eth (getting investments) while the project is still underway (improving the coin) so it is only logical that ethereum is used in ICO.