We're moving the Pick 2 bet value from 1.0 BTC to 0.5 BTC, as requested by BitCoiner2012 in https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=122329.msg1331755#msg1331755. To make the change seamless a new address will be used for the new BitPick, so send 0.5 or multiples thereof to 12tAabLFLxvUzC5KuX7VKMM8bYRncbQ84E to play. Once the current BTC 1.0 Pick 2 ends it will not spawn a new one. Let us know what you think about this, and good luck! |
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As a merchant if it were monthly I for one could not offer 20% discounts, but twice a year for example would be nice. Yeah, twice a year would be good. Once a year is too long in Bitcoin time  Well, since we're talking bitcoin time, every 25k blocks (roughly 6 months)? Or using round numbers every 32256 blocks (that's 16 times 2016)? |
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Ah I was wondering how the house so often takes it. But if you are always seeding (which means teams is 00 satoshi) so house often gets 00. ( I only won on "00" bet), doesn't it mean house often wins pick2 by default?
I am not sure I understand your question. We usually take the '00' bet, unless someone else places the first bet. But that certainly gives us no edge on winning. Any number can be the winner and the only reason that 00 appears to be the usual winner is just because it is always a bet, so while 1e might be more often the end of the block hash (for example) it is not always an active bet. Every time 00 comes up, no matter how seldom that is, it is sure to be a match on the Pick 2. If we had more betting volume this fact would not be noticeable at all. But I may have given the wrong impression that we have some sort of auto seeder, we don't. We try to manually seed the Picks once per day or every time they match, but it always depends on us having the time to do it, so anyone can get the 00. Since this appears to be an issue, we're going to start seeding with a set bet, thus avoiding taking the 00 by default. Just remember that if we always take the bet for 1e, that will appear to be the one that is always coming as winner just because it is always a bet, unless there's enough bet coverage to prevent it |
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So the house seeds the pot, which means you are 00. So it hits more often because it is default bet or because 00 is more common on end of block?
I have won pick 2 once, but I played many times. If the bet was .5 I would be in most pots, but a whole coin is a bit for me to gamble consistently. I have never hit p3 or p4.
No number is more common than any other for block hashes, as far as I know. That would be an obvious attack vector on the bitcoin network itself. We can certainly entertain the idea of lowering the Pick 2 bet value, although that also means the expected pot, everything else being equal, will lower accordingly and the odds of pick completion with just a handful of bets are still as high as always. In fact we were already considering it given the low volume of betting. We have to date won almost every Pick 2, but we also were often playing almost alone, with you being the exception I guess. The same cannot be said for Pick 3 and 4, where we have a little more dispersed volume and have not won all that many games. In the spirit of full disclosure, we do not keep any of the pots won as house profit, everything is spread across the open Picks. |
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Any chance of shipping to Europe? What premium would I pay for a couple of 3TB?
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indeed, I watch it all rather closely. However pick 4 seems often enough, it seems the time for that raffle is soon. Is there any reason 00 appears to dominate pick 2?
Yes, there is a good reason... lack of bets. Since we keep seeding the BitPicks so no one gets caught winning a single bet which would net loosing the 1% house fee, and because we don't choose any particular numbers the 00 bet is always present along with usually one or two other random bets. We've been playing pick 2 mostly alone, which is unfortunate as that is the one game I thought would be most popular to start with, as you can expect it to hit multiple times per day with moderate betting volume. |
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Well, in theory it's expected. The current bids are covering only 0.1% of the available space, which means there's roughly 1 in 1000 chances of hitting per block, so with 144 blocks per day we should expect ~7 days. Of course since block hash slices can repeat themselves we may very well have to wait a lot more.
The most surprising thing is that much lower coverage bitpicks have always managed to find a match in a very short timespan compared to this one. But past events bear no weight on the outcome of future ones...
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Just a quick bump to let everyone know that there's still no winning number. We've been running for 8 days now and almost certainly very close to completion, but there's still time for anyone that wants to join in on the fun!
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Some action last week on TAABL, with 8x Pick 2, 2x Pick 3 and 2x Pick 4, for a combined Pot of 36.135 BTC. I'll refrain from posting all the Pick links here, people know where to find it now, right? The FPGA Raffle is still running, so don't lose the chance of taking home the miner yourself. |
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Quickest deal ever with AnonX, I sent first, two thumbs up.
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Well the price is right. I'll enter that contest. Not so sure how to play and your only comment on there is not exactly a glowing review. It seems like I should start a new wallet just for this contest?
What comment was that? I'm not sure I understand what you mean. You don't need to start a new wallet, you need to have a proper wallet. It's the same as for Satoshi Dice and the like, where the prizes are sent to the same address that was used to send the funds in the first place. If you are using an online wallet you have no control over the sending address, and thus will not receive the feedback tx (or the prize if playing a proper bitpick) and, more importantly, don't have the privkey to sign a message proving you are the one that made the bet. Please let us know how we can improve the description, as it looks like we did a bad job of it. But back to my original intent, I was proposing that you have your own raffle pick for the video card, like the one we have open for the FPGA Miner. We currently take 1% of all bets on as fees. |
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Hey underminer, This would be a good match for the pick raffles we're testing now at taabl.net ( https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=122329.0) We're currently doing some tests for having a minimum number of tickets before a match can be found, auction style minimum price. The two things that might be somewhat tricky are the US only constraint, although if that is perfectly clear to anyone visiting the site it might work fine, and the fact that we do not offer an escrow service of any kind. As soon as there's a winner the coins are sent the seller's (you) way. Just a thought, if you would like to talk more about this let us now. |
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Just wanted to say, I love this website and games so far.
Thank you! And another Pick 3 pot was collected -> http://taabl.net/pick?_=50982a9c8127a850f4b1cb17Don't forget that the FPGA Miner raffle is still active, so it's not too late to join |
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@Mushroomized: There's good news and bad news... I'll break the bad ones first You didn't win On a brighter side, the good news is you didn't lose either. The raffle still hasn't found a winner To clarify things, and you can also read all the details at http://taabl.net/howtoplay here's how it works: you buy a ticket which has a number. Every time a block is found we extract the potential winner ticket from that hash, but if no ticket has been bought matching that potential winner number then we wait for the next block's hash, and so on. This raffle is a Pick 4, so 4 hex digits are matched, which means there are 65536 possible combinations. If you look at "Previous Games" on the site you'll see how long Pick 4's have taken in the past, though the number of tickets sold and plain randomness will obviously make this nothing more than a guideline of sorts. I might hit while I'm typing or it might take a couple of weeks, both being unlikely. |
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Site: diceoncrack.com
Key: ;D
Min Cash In: 0.001
Min Cash Out:0.00000001
Games: Multiple bet dice strategies (Simple, Martingale, Minesfield), 3 card Poker
Min Bet: 0.001
Max Bet: 10.0
Comments: Max bet is actually not capped, but the max win on any wager is (currently BTC 10.0)
Site: taabl.net
Key: ;D
Min Cash In: 0.1
Min Cash Out:0.00000001
Games: BitPick lottery
Min Bet: 0.1
Max Bet: --
Comments: Wagers are divided in tickets that have a face value, so Max individual bet depends on the game (currently 1 BTC for Pick 2) but any deposit will be accepted.
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Hey,
Care to add diceoncrack.com and taabl.net to your list?
Thanks!
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A slightly different pipe, specifically thought as an auction alternative being tested. Read all about it here. |
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And we're off! Visit TAABL, place your bets by sending 0.1 or multiples thereof to 1PipetJAiECJYfCi812cWuV8znDKVqMzq4 and good luck. Once there's a match all sending addresses will receive 1 satoshi to advertise the raffle is over, and the winning bet will get 2 satoshis back. If that is you, let us know here and we'll send you the prize. General playing rules are the same as for other BitPicks. Let us know about any doubts or ideas you might have regarding this game. |
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