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1481  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Creating a Bitcoin Buying / Selling Service on: November 11, 2010, 05:14:19 PM
Maybe slightly off topic, but I've been thinking about what would involve buying / selling bitcoins from my business. Selling is pretty straightforward, as long as I declare all income I can call bitcoins a "service"

But buying, trading or otherwise producing is slightly more awkward. Paying an individual in exchange for something not physical is not easily justifiable tax wise, and even more so if I wanted to keep the individual 'anonymous' to some extent.

I am not in the US, and as far as I can tell, it would be much easier for me here, but frankly my accountant isn't very helpful in that he does not understand these things all that well, and I suck at explaining them.
1482  Economy / Marketplace / Re: btco.in url shortening service. on: November 11, 2010, 04:51:11 AM
What kind of capitalists invade a thread to insult someone.

lol. is the cold war still happening ? Smiley-

edit:since its in  a thread about url shortening can I assume it will be a short war?


Swfuoa? (*)


(*) - Should We Fight Using Only Acronyms?
1483  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Monopoly back again? on: November 10, 2010, 04:01:21 PM
So does this mean that producing coins will be impossible to do by average people? Which would mean that the number of computers able to produce coins is reducing: it's only the big ones – the average guy is out of the way. Can it happen that in the long run, a couple hundreds, then a couple computers get the monopoly on coin generation?

I don't think so... it will get harder and more spaced, but I'm sure others have experienced the odd block found by the 2MHs machine, just like I do.
1484  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin Deflation will cause a Meltdown OMG! on: November 10, 2010, 01:54:43 PM
Corrupt the blockchain? Is that possible at all? Or you mean extend it in their own branch?

As long as we are using the default client, I don't see how that could hurt any bitcoin user (unless they exploit some bug, of course). If they use massive power and create the longer hash using the last block hard referenced in the default client and growing from there... why don't they just generate the coins to start with?

To control bitcoins, you don't just need to control the hash, you need to control the client as the rules are coded there and it is distributed in a way each client can say 'aye' or 'ney' to any block. If, however, these entities use some social engineering trick to force upon all of us the use of their client (better, cleaner, not so open sourced) and then change the rules under our noses... that's a different story.
1485  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: crossfire and opencl? on: November 09, 2010, 08:58:47 PM
I have to use crossfire because I've got only one pci-e slot and would like buy a second ati-card for my computer to generate bitcoins. Any idea?

New motherboard? Where were you planning on connecting the second ati-card to start with?
1486  Economy / Economics / Re: Speculation in Bitcoins childhood. on: November 09, 2010, 06:54:32 PM
Oops, I read it backwards... someone sold 100k bitcoins, thus lowering the price... I guess my point was completely wrong, then, this was just a simple 'cashing out my profits' scenario, though 100k coins is a hefty amount.
1487  Economy / Economics / Re: Speculation in Bitcoins childhood. on: November 09, 2010, 06:42:10 PM
looking at mtgox trade data there was one particular trade for exactly 100k coins that brought prices down to .20, and I'm betting that same amount will broken in multiple asks, which will, in the end, serve as a buffer against huge price increases. These radical changes are probably just the market adapting to all new comers than finally feel comfortable enough to put $ in mtgox, knowing they'll be able to cash out the profits.
1488  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Feature Request: Printed Wallet Backups ("Bearer Bonds") on: November 09, 2010, 06:26:23 PM
If there's a c++ programmer out there looking for a good "get me feet wet" project involving Bitcoin, I think importing/exporting public/private keypairs (in one of OpenSSL's file formats) would be a really good choice.

The hard part is importing; you'd have to write code to re-scan the block chain to find transactions to/from the newly imported public/private keys, and add them to the wallet.


I'm quite busy right now but this is one thing I actually want to see done sooner than later, so if you pass some good pointers my way, I'll have a look at it as soon as I have a little spare time.
1489  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin.org demographics on: November 09, 2010, 03:46:45 PM
I didn't know I lived in the great republic of "Other"... nice flag though.
1490  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Koans on: November 09, 2010, 03:36:21 PM
I don't have a Koan for you but I can tell you a joke.

Three men are waiting for an interview. The first is called in. The interviewer learns that the first man is a mathematician. As the interview is wrapping up, the inerviewer says "Now before you go, I have one last question. What's 1+1?". "Exactly 2" says the mathematician.

Next, the interviewer calls in the second man, who is an engineer. Towards the end of the interview, again, he says "One last question. What's 1+1?". "Well..." says the engineer "that depends on the accuracy of the original measurement. So I'd say around 2, plus or minus some amount of error".

Finally, the interviewer calls in the third man, who is a lawyer. Again, at the end of the interview, he asks "One final question - what's 1+1?". The lawyer gets up from his seat and goes over the nearby window and closes the shades. He sits back down, and looks plainly into the interviewer's eyes: "What do you want it to be?"
Grin
The burning question here is what job are all three of these characters applying for?


McDonalds, probably. It's the one place anyone can get a job, yeah, even if they are *gasp* lawyers.
1491  Other / Off-topic / Re: Too much speculation on: November 09, 2010, 02:34:52 AM
Regardless, you are still accusing me and others of stealing and scamming. I WILL HOLD YOU accountable for libel on bitcoin community members.

I will not trade with you, give you anything, and so on, to the best of my knowledge possible. In other words, if I found you using ANY of my web app that I am building right now or in the future, I will suspend your accounts. I will tell other people to boycott you until you apologize for your fallacious libels.

Is that clear?

We have a deal! I'll do the same thing for you Wink I do not like scammers who refuse to change their ways after they're notified of their scam. And I'm going to call a scam everything that claims to make more money solely from money as they are just artificially inflating the price and are greatest threat to bitcoin and honest people than anything else. It's a ponzi scheme pure and simple ...

Seeing your mindset I wouldn't be interested in any of your "web apps" anyway, it's probably going to be a scam ... (not that you could identify me if I ever choose to use it LOL)

Do you even go to the grocery store? Because they make money from inflating the price of food, you know. And do you even know what a ponzi sheme is? Hint: it's not buying low and selling high Wink
1492  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Feature Request: Printed Wallet Backups ("Bearer Bonds") on: November 09, 2010, 02:32:28 AM
Because when they're worth $1000/BTC in 60 years when my kids are distributing my will, it's more likely that the paper will still be readable compared to a flash drive.

Well, this has been discussed many times... we need to be able to export / import one specific address key (or key pair? whatever is needed in the wallet).

Having that, printing or typing back or qrcode scanning is a simple issue easily solved.

The problem is actually twofold. We need to be able to import/export but also to move coins to one specific address, and not have them scattered in multiple addresses, at least for this use case.
1493  Other / Off-topic / Re: Too much speculation on: November 09, 2010, 02:26:14 AM
So much for the innocent child approach Smiley

I know we shouldn't feed trolls but I just can't help myself... Macho, do you have any idea how much you sound like some priest preaching to those which are poor in spirit? Next step is to start burning everyone that doesn't agree with you... ouch. Even worse, you sound like a government mandated agent, with your own morale that stands above everyone else's because, well, it serves you "and everyone else" better.

I'm usually on the side of the mild tempered, but I have to side with kiba on this one.
1494  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Selling Bitcoins for Amazon cards. on: November 09, 2010, 01:34:40 AM

While researching amazon gift card scams I saw this this photoshop http://www.scambusters.org/images/ezine/V2-girl.jpg

WTF?? lol... that has to be the worst photoshop ever. what did they do to her HAND!!!!  Shocked

She's ET's youngest offspring, you insensitive clod!
1495  Economy / Economics / Re: Too much speculation on: November 09, 2010, 01:30:44 AM
So, Macho, do your statements actually apply here? You talk about rice, which is bought with money to then sell for more money. Controlling the distribution channels by all means possible (probably by owning the production, or at least holding exclusive rights to it) seems like the only way to achieve that.

Now, bitcoins... you can't control production, anyone can produce. You can't hold exclusive rights to distribution, it's p2p. And, frankly, it's not some basic necessity that you can control people with/for. I have bitcoins because I like many of their aspects, and because I'm a geek. I know that there's much more to bitcoins than that, and the speculation is actually making these bitcoins attractive to at least one niche... the speculators, giving me a good leverage on my holdings.

Of course they can make the coins loose all value, or just make them way to expensive for the average joe but... wait a minute, I can put my computer to work and generate these, or I can trade with the people that, like yourself, do not get fooled by speculators and all round "scumbags" that make a profit out of trading bitcoins, pretty much making these more valuable for everyone else, by the way...

Yes, scammers and copycats will come and hurt everyone. Yes, not so honest hyip schemes will appear and steal people out of their coins. That's just a sign that bitcoins are now interesting enough for that to happen and that's positive I guess. And, frankly, where else do you get someone to ask people to invest in their ponzi scheme by calling the thread "just another stupid pyramid scheme"Huh? Honesty to the extreme!

So, in the spirit of disclosure, I developed the lottery site, out of the need to have some excuse to try the bitcoin client in a service environment. I'm not a die hard gambler, I'm more the type that loves to gamble because I'm always thinking about a way to beat the house, and I know I consistently fail. Heck, even when I'm the house I end up loosing money Smiley

I think you are crying wolf too soon in the game. This is a small community that actually plays very well with each other. Yes, everyone has their own opinion about pretty much everything and we all have a lot to learn from each other. Your questions are not without a reason, I'm sure, but it sounds like you are being judgmental and, frankly, that usually just backfires.
1496  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Hardware change problem on: November 09, 2010, 01:15:33 AM
I'm lucky enough to not have to tinker with windows anymore, but assuming hardware is functioning correctly my first actions would be to check if windows didn't switch users or something. Do a full disk search for files called wallet.dat as you might find more than one Smiley
1497  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Selling Bitcoins for Amazon cards. on: November 09, 2010, 01:06:39 AM

If you are worried wait to send bitcoins untill after the gift card has been used . If the person sending the card is legit they wont mind waiting for you to spend the card before you send the coins. Scammers wont want to wait to do so. Once you've already spent the gift card I would think there is no way for Amazon to cancel it or charge you back in any way and you should be perfectly safe sending coins.


I have no real knowledge on either gift cards or credit card fraud (thankfully Smiley ) but I'd assume that you could also ask for the gift card to be bought a few days in advance of the trade (they are dated, right?). Maybe 7 days would be safe to assume a stolen credit card transaction would be disputed...
1498  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: "wallet" handling code should be a separate process. on: November 08, 2010, 01:09:55 PM
+ 1.

Also, there should be an easy way to make backup of the wallet, without having to shut down the client. Perhaps having wallet manager in separate process would simultaneously make that easier.


BTW,
Make a poll about this please.

There is already, rpc method 'backupwallet'.
1499  Economy / Marketplace / Re: $5 for 10BTC on: November 05, 2010, 10:00:24 PM
PM and coins sent.
1500  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin is not as advertised on: November 04, 2010, 12:36:11 PM
What I see as a feature is what some people see as a vulnerability : the fact that someone could make a longer block chain by overpowering the network in massive proportions, but that's very very very unlikely to happen.

Are you serious about this at all ?
Because no serious financial institution would ever use a currency with such "feature".

Currency must be stable by design. The more stable & predictable it is, the better. This is the exact reasons for hard-coded block chain locks in bitcoin client.

Unless, of course, you have lots of computing power at your disposal and are planning to use it to overpower the network... that being the case you would try to argue as best you could that the "feature" is really needed, and not really a vulnerability.

... oh, wait ...
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