Maybe nitpicking, but 'stop inflation / bitcoin.org' would work better imo. Google currently resolves the search for bitcoin very well, but seeing the added traffic the owner of bitcoin.com might pull some neat SEO tricks and get that on top of google... just saying.

Ok, so money (I mean US$, EUR, etc) buys you drugs, prostitutions, assassination contracts, and lots of other nasty things. Google it, you'll find pretty much anything.

Last I heard, Unicef and other such institutions were taking money (again, US$, EUR, etc) to buy food and medicine for the poor around the globe.

I will not say I agree or disagree with any of the two things above, really, but they are on opposite sides of the 'moral scale' and still money is very much associated with the both. And with your groceries too, did you start not paying in whatever your local currency is because you can also buy sex with it???

I think the real point is not bitcoins being themselves associated with whatever, but rather this particular forum being the central repository for everything bitcoin related and thus the place people end up at when trying to learn more. It needs to stay open and free, imo, and until there's a better solution for trading 'illegal' stuff for bitcoins (heck, selling your services bathing cute puppies for bitcoins is illegal if you don't submit that in your tax form) I don't see these threads going anywhere.

I do agree that a tor hidden forum would be amazing for these trades, and a great 'plan B' if this forum is ever DoS'd. I'd love to see a full mirror available over tor, with some sections only available in the hidden one

But posting on one or the other would still be voluntary, I guess. You can't force a set of rules and then say "a major plus is that we don't get enforced rules down our wallets"... practice what you preach, I guess.

More than fair. Send me you address, I'll send you mine.

Sounds fair, if you agree that if it gets caught at customs (which here can add two weeks to the delivery) you count the date it reached customs, not actual delivery. You'll only know that after you receive the package, but tracking may provide information.

Also, if the delay is too big, lets set up a minimum amount I'll get, so you don't get it for free AND I end up paying on top of that Just throw a number.

So we need to pay to see the video to assert you are not a scammer? Cutting your losses, are we? :p

WTF is the problem with Russia? UPS simply refuses to ship there (from my city, at least) and most others charge more than 500 btc for a 4 day guaranteed delivery... damn.

Anyway, I will only sell the B2 (because I decided to keep the C1 and the B4 has been sold). If you are interested in being slightly more open towards the delivery date, my country's postal office does provide a 3 work day option for Europe, so if I was to ship it Monday, you'd get it at most by Thursday, the 10th. Or so they say...

I will need to provide a description for customs, you tell me what I should put there so you don't have to pay tax on it.

Finally, I will require payment ahead of shipment, but ask around, I believe I'm well trusted

If you want to go ahead and close this deal send me a PM with your address.

Could you elaborate? What are you bidding on, and the time you mention is time for the package to arrive or date you want it sent?

US ~$33, EUR ~$15. Add $5 if registered. If you make your bids in bitcoins including shipping, I'll be sure to compare taking the destination in consideration.

Be silly all you want, I don't mind

B2 is open for offers, please form a single line!

Make me an offer, all bids in thread are inclusive of shipping. Just make sure you understand the XO currently on sale is a B2 version (see first post for links to specs) which, having only 256MB ram can't use newest sugar builds. It still works fine, though.

I have one more, C1 version (first mass production, the ones on the "give one, get one" initiative) but I'm not sure I want to sell it. You are free to make me an offer on this one too, of course.

This has got to be the strangest bid sequence I've seen in a while I'm not selling it at that price, not with the shipping included, so feel free to retract or bid up at your leisure.

No hurries, though.

I don't have much of my collection with me, as I let a DJ friend use it, but for example vangelies I know I have:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spiral_(album)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/See_You_Later

And a few more. I have to decide if I'm going to sell any of these, but since I go to a bunch of boot sales and my friends know I'm always on the look out, I may be able to get a second copy and sell you one.

Anyway, shipping records internationally is a little scary to do on the cheap, let me investigate on that and see if with the P&P I can still make an interesting price. Feel free to make an offer on the two mentioned if you don't already have them, the cover is somewhat used, but the vinyl is in very good condition.

I do, actually, a lot, but I'm not sure I want to part with these... getting cheap used CD's is real easy, not so much for vinyl in good condition. Still, give me an idea of what you like to listen to, and I'll see what I can do.

I've dropped the price on the CD's. If you want something more specific ask, maybe I have it, maybe I can get it.

B2 - Atlas @ 135 (Feb 2)
B4 - sold to rebuilder

As I said, I'm perfectly ok with waiting, but since the deal isn't close if someone outbids you and wants prompt delivery I may just take it. Again, you are alone bidding so you should be safe

Not sure I understand here, Atlas... you mean you'll be ok to close the deal @ 155 for the B2 if/when prices settle at .55? You are alone in the bidding for this laptop, so I'm certainly ok with waiting, I just want to be clear as to what your bid and conditions are.

Ok, B4 is off market, rebuilder takes it for 220 coins.

I am unable to send you a PM, the forum software keeps telling me I'm leaving the body empty for some reason. PM me an email address so we can make the needed arrangements.

I see 200BTC there, and when I read you previous message it was 208BTC (give or take). One of us is looking at the wrong place

It is still the site owner responsibility. I'm not saying there's an obligation of refunding any losses, that's where the contracts, insurances and premiums come in, but rather that only the site owner could have prevented this, and I'm sure in this case Jed has already closed this particular hole.

If there's any obligation, legal, moral or otherwise, I'm in no position to say. Having happened to me, I would ask for a refund but not require one, as you put it, and very well, I'm the one that trusted the site in the first place. I would go so far as to say Jed should have an opt-in system that would raise the fee per transaction for those who chose to allow it, and the extra fees would go to a fund to cover just these situations, but then it would become very hard to separate real cases from scams, and I don't think Jed wants to become a lawyer (assuming  he's not one already)

If the story is as it was told on the forum, I'm sure Jed will come around. It does sound like you were not to blame in any way for what happened, an 8 char numbers and symbols password might not be a 'strong password' but it is still much better than most other passwords there, I bet. It was certainly better than the one I had (and have now changed to something more realistic).