Yep, thy did invest some money and effort into promotion and they could have appeared legit for much longer if they didn't make that bold claim about Smartphone that could mine 2 ETH per month. But then again, that was their main selling point and way to attract investors. Unfortunately some of them fell for that nonsense and ordered the phone.



From what I can see many joined their  bounty campaign,  but good to hear you stopped and supported the flag!

Regarding the tools, I don't use anything fancy really, I simply copy/paste parts of the content and Google it. I tried some tools before, but honestly they weren't much better, so I just stopped using those. There are some good ones on the market, but only if you want to pay.

Another fake ANN with malware, copied PYRK ANN, and used github with name similar to original, in order to fool the people. And of course, thread is self-moderated and user recently awoken after long break, all classic signs are here. Please delete and nuke before someone careless downloads it.

User spourmordadi
ANN ✅[ANN][PYRK][POW-MULTI]👾[SHA][SCRYPT][X11]⚡️[MASTERNODES][EXCHANGE]🔥
Archive https://archive.fo/HiQTX

Real ANN [ANN][PYRK][POW-MULTI][SHA][SCRYPT][X11][MASTERNODES][COMMUNITYFUND][EXCHANGE]
Real Github https://github.com/pyrkcommunity

So Ethereum Fire finally came to Bitcointalk? I busted that project few months ago for the same thing, plagiarized whitepaper and from what I can see, they still have the same content as the one they had few months ago. I guess they thought that no one will notice.
[SCAM] Ethereum Fire- Plagiarized Whitepaper

Anyway, good catch @OP! Gonna tag their bounty manager, let's see if he closes that bounty campaign.

A da, kad sam sherao mislim da su radili (ako nisam i ja sjebao), ali na tom dahsboardu su svako malo neke promjene i dodaci, pa onda i link zna puknuti. Koliko ja znam, nema detalja tipa koliko je koja tema imala postova, ili prosjecni merit po postu za svaku temu. Dashboard je super i stvarno se da svasta naci, ali bas ne ide u takve detalje.


Odi vidjeti za sta se daje merit na wall threadu . Ima i stvarno kvalitetnih postova, ali brate za stvarno svakakve gluposti se tamo dijeli sakom i kapom. Opcenito je zloupotreba merita malo teze dokaziva, to bas mora biti ono super upadljivo i treba imati cvrste dokaze.

Slazem se da je najbolje da se nastavi kao i do sada, nema smisla mjenjati ovaj sistem samo da se u statistici vidi da se  vise merita podijeli na nasem boardu, ali ne zbog toga sto ce netko krivo shvatiti (jer mislim da se i nema sta krivo shvatiti, to je standardna praksa svuda) nego cisto jer je ovo puno logicnije, davanje merita direktno postu koji je i zavrijedio taj merit.

Eight new scams discovered since last update, June 10th, and added to the list, reaching the total number of 94 at the moment. You can find wide variety of different attempts:

• Plagiarized whitepapers
• Fake teams
• Ponzi schemes
• Magic smartphones

Just to add that last one on the list (Ether-Flow) needs some flag support. Thanks!

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	Name			Scam accusation thread			Flag link
	87. Bithub Network			[SCAM] Bithub Network ponzi promising 7000% profit in 100 days!			Flag Type 1
	88. E-Wallet			[SCAM] E-wallet ponzi scheme promising 1% daily return!			Flag Type 1
	89. Bitwings			Bitwings promises smartphone that can mine 2 ETH/month. Ponzi scheme?			Flag Type 1
	90. Xenios			[Warning] Xenios using fake team member photos!			Flag Type 1
	91. TCapital			[SCAM] TCapital - scheme promising Rolex watches and Mercedes s500 cars!			Flag Type 1
	92. EURST			[WARNING] EURST plagiarized whitepaper!
	93. Cryptocloudmining			[SCAM] Cryptocloudmining promising 88% profit in 90 days!			Flag Type 1
	94. Ether-Flow			[SCAM] Ether-Flow ponzi scheme promising 900%+ ROI in 1 month!			Flag Type 1

E jebiga, sta nisi poslao PM i pitao . A mislim da i sheram svaki put link za merit  dashboard odakle ja uzimam podatke. Na linku ispod mozes vidjeti postove za nas dio. Nema jos podataka za prosli mjesec, zato ja jos nisam radio mjesecni pregled
https://public.tableau.com/shared/Y26GM2G7S?:display_count=n&:origin=viz_share_link


A uvijek tako radimo, broje se se samo meriti za postove na nasem dijelu. Isto vrijedi za nas i druge lokalne boardove kad radim usporedbe. E sad, eventualno mozes davati merit postu sa kojim se netko prijavljuje u onoj tvojoj temi, umjesto davanje merita direknto za post. To sam vidio da ponekad rade na drugim boardovima. To bi se doduse moglo gledati kao svojevrsni stat padding, ali mislim da u krajnjem slucaju nije ni toliko bitno, dok god dobri postovi dobiju merit.

Ovo bi inace bila dobra stvar, da vise stranaka participira u vlasti, ali ono sto se kod nas redovno dogadja je da te manje stranke koje koaliraju sa HDZSDP redovno bivaju absorbirane i unistene unutar 1-2 izbora. Pogotovo ako odu u koaliciju sa HDZ. Upravo ce se to dogoditi i Skori i njegovom Domovinskom Pokretu.


Sudeci po anketama i ako ne bude nekih velikih iznenadjenja ovako mislim da ce se odigrati:
HDZ+Skoro imaju cca 72 zastupnika+2/3 dijaspora (2 je minimum, sva 3 je najvjerojatnije)+5/8 manjinaca (mislim da ce Skoro  uvjetovati HDZ da SDSS ne bude dio koalicije). Znaci ovo je vec 79 i dovoljno za vecinu, a jos bi moglo biti par prebjega u HDZ.

Restart tj SDP je tu u zajebanijoj poziciji. Budimo optimisticni i recimo da ce osvojiti 60 mandata. Iako zvuci super, to je i dalje dosta daleko od potrebnih 76. Znamo da Skoro sigurno nece ici sa SDP, a ni MOST koji je ideoloski otisao skroz udesno i konzervativno, sto znaci da imaju jako malo manevarskog prostora. Ono sto im preostaje je 8 mandata manjinaca. Kljucno za njih bi mogli biti rezultati koalicija Mozemo te Pametno/Fokus koji bi koalirati sa njima, ali nekako ne vidim vise od 5-max 6 mandata  koje bi te dvije koalicije  mogle skupa osvojiti. Sto znaci, best case scenario, SDP fali par mandata za minimum minimuma, tj 76.

What happened: Ether-flow is ponzi scheme pretending to be ETH faucet site, promising ridiculous up to 936% ROI  in period of 1 month.

Flag Type 1 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=2112

ANN https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5259391.0
Archive https://archive.fo/Ikn3C

Website https://ether-flow.io/
Archive https://web.archive.org/web/20200702055606/https://ether-flow.io/




Here are their various upgrade options. So, if you pay 1 ETH and upgrade it to "Bank", you will get back 7.334 ETH in 1 month! That makes it 600%+ ROI, therefore not possible. ROI percentage goes even higher, if you pay 100 ETH for "Diamond Mining". In that case ROI goes up to 900%+.

@SuperTA fino je vidjeti da si se opet aktivirao

Na ovo sam naletio neki dan u jednoj FB kripto grupi. Po ovome bi se mogao dogoditi jedan finiji dump ovih mjeseci. Posto sam daleko od strucnjaka, zanimaju me vasa misljenja, jel ovo pije vodu ili su izvukli podatke kako njima pase, ono prvo pump je bio pa je ovo bila korekcija, ili je konzistentno BTC lose performao u ljetnim mjesecima?

Nah, more like mobile carrier. From what i saw, they are mostly active in South America, that's their target market.
https://wingsmobile.com/


Yeah I understand all that, but as we can see, people fell for that. Same goes for having your own mobile phone/laptop/whatever. You go to China and buy bunch of generic devices and then they just put your brand on it. Voila, you now have your own mobile phone.


Yep, that's why all those bounty campaigns offer huge amount of tokens, "worth" hundreds of thousands, and sometimes even millions, as they know that they can promise anything, bounty hunters will buy it. That brings us to one of their promises: guaranteed minimum value of BWN when buying from their stores. I can already see how they gonna tackle that after tokens gets dumped: they will simply say that their merch is out of stock. As simple as that

Regarding KYC part (something that will never happen on this forum), you might wanna reconsider your stance. I suggest that you read topic made by @1miau Why KYC is extremely dangerous – and useless where it is nicely explained dangers of giving your documents and info to 3rd parties, and that s not as good and effective as you might think. KYC is not a solution, if anything it is part of the problem.

There is one more thing that makes me lean towards conclusion that this spam was made by airdrop: if you check that archived version of their ANN (since all those spam posts have been deleted now) you will see that most comments were very short, like "great project", "good project" "thanks" and similar spam. While posts made by bumping services are not much better, they are still  a bit longer, and usually made in form of question, so they at least write one whole sentence, and not word or two like it is usually the case with airdrop spam.

Anyway, let's see what happens when they start 2nd airdrop round.

Care to address the issues mentioned in this thread, like 300 % ROI, or how you plan to keep value of the tokens at 0.2 USD when buying your merchandise and not going bankrupt, in case of price dump, shilling your YouTube videos and ANN thread?


I think many fell for this because an actual mobile provider is behind this, and there were  videos showing that phone at some mobile show in Barcelona. And that was enough, people simply switched off their brain and order that phone, without thinking whether something like that is possible.


When I was checking Bitwings i came across their bounty thread, and  I was surprised to see how popular it was, thousands of bounty hunters joined. It will be interesting to see what happens to BWN price once they  list on an exchange and start distributing 4,000,000 BWN  bounty tokens worth 800,000 USD (based on ICO price).

If they have issues with revealing their identity, then they should have mention that, or even better, not use any pictures at all. That is perfectly legit decision by the way, not to reveal real identity at all. Good example is Satoshi, but what he never did is using some fake photo to try fool people.
But, you wanted to appear more legit and attract people,  so you used stock/fake photos for your teams members, and that is not honest behavior.


Yeah, they do use some tricks like that, or distort the image a bit, hoping that reverse image search won't discover true origin of those photos. Situation is getting even more complicated now, with advanced tools for creating artificial photos that are harder to detect.

Yeah those accounts were made in a bulk, and probably by the same person. I would say that they are part of the bumping group and not property of L2L as before they were active in their thread, they worked in few other ANN, specifically in Arc Iris, Marketpeak and XBR, and all those hired bumping service. If they were made by L2l, they would spam only there. At least that's the standard practice, from I noticed so far.


You are right, something fishy is going on there. At first it might look as they hired someone, but since post quality is so bad, it made me belive that they might organized an airdrop, and part of the requirement was to comment there. So I checked their telegram group, and it might be the case, but since airdrop finished, I can't be 100% sure. If they indeed gave tokens in an exchange for comments, that  was breaking of forum rules and for that admins delete such threads.

As you can see in the screenshot below, they didn't explicitly said to comment there in order to get tokens, but since they mentioned that there will be more airdrop rounds, gonna keep an eye on them so i can actually try that telegram bot, so see whether comments on bitcointalk are part of it.

That's what I've been saying earlier, this season could be a perfect opportunity for some big surprise, due covid-19. You never know which team will be affected, and what is most problematic is that if one player gets tested positive, chances are he gave it to few others, like in Spencer Dinwiddie and DeAndre Jordan case. Now imagine that happening to Lakers, either LJ or Durant getting positive during playoff series means their chances for title go down a lot. Same goes for Clippers, Bucks and few other contenders. If Bogdanovic stayed healthy, I would put few bucks on Jazz, since Mitchell and Gobert already had the corona.

Any team that wins title this year will need quite a lot of luck.

Ovaj dio je kljucan, a to ljudi koji kupuju dojave jednostavno ne razumiju. Utakmice i mecevi se namjestaju, to je sigurno, ali se upravo zbog opasnosti pada koeficijenta ne siri okolo i prodaje svakome.

Ja sam prije dosta godina bio u situaciji di sam dobio legit dojavu. Rijec je bilo o HNL (naravno ) sezona 2001/2002 i utakmice Hrvatskog Dragovoljca. Stari od frenda je bio trener nizih uzrasta, znao je da je pokojni Spajic kupio par utakmica da proba osigurati ostanak u prvoj ligi pa je tako info dosao do mene. Uglavnom, koeficijent na HD je tijekom tjedna bio 4.7 (igrali su u gostima) , ali je par sati prije utakmice izgleda pukla dojava, ekipa je pocela masovno uplacivati te je naravno koeficijent pao na 1.9.  HD je komotno pobjedio, ali se ne mogu sjetiti protiv koga je tocno igrao. E sad, to je bilo davnih dana, kladionicarski svijet nije bio umrezen kao danas, pa je opet koeficijent pao brzinski. Mogu zamisliti sta bi se danas dogodilo  u toj situaciji, vjerojatno bi taj par bio blokiran odmah, ali ono su bili poceci kladjenja kod nas pa je svasta prolazilo.


A ljudi su po prirodi naivna stvorenja, a prevaranti nekad bas inventivni, pogotovo ako se odluce na long game.

Primjer jedan na kojem bi mislim palo hrpa kladionicara:
"Tipster" podijeli svoju uslugu 100 ljudi, da dokaze da je legit obeca im par prognoza besplatno. Podijeli tih 100 pola/pola, izabere sport sa 2 moguca ishoda, te jednima da jedan rezultat a drugoj polovici kontra. Poslije odigranog meca ostane mu njih 50 koji su dobili tocnu dojavu, koje opet podijeli na pola i odradi isto. Rinse and repeat dok mu ne ostane par ljudi, koji misle da im je prevarant dao 4-5 ili koliko vec tocnih ishoda. Nakon toga on ce bez puno razmisljanja dati lovu za slijedecu dojavu, pogotovo ako mu tipseter obeca neki jaci koeficijent.

Primjeni istu taktiku na kripto i one signal grupe, mislim da bi jos vise ekipe palo na to.

First, sorry to hear that you have been scammed.

This is the place, scam accusations board. Just follow this guide, provide as much proof and info as possible and that's it.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=260073.0

Three new additions to the list, still have no clue how those "marketing agencies" manage to sell that when it's so fake and totally ineffective.

[ANN] V SYSTEMS - Blockchain Database and App Platform by Sunny King [SPoS/Mint]
V Systems have their ANN for quite some time, and it looks like they used bumping service in the past and stopped,  but recently they reactivated. Accounts that are "working" in their thread are also active in another one on the list, Cocos BCX.

[ANN] [IEO] [p2pb2b] | 30% Bonus | L2L Token | Sustainable World
Similar situation like in previous case. Thier ANN is from previous year, but they recently started IEO on P2PB2B exchange, so decided to "spice" it up with some shitposting and spamming, courtesy of bumping service group. Accounts active there also worked on XBR and Arc Iris in the past.

BINARY OPTIONS SIGNALS EPIC 400% TRADER GROUP - HIGH ACCURACY SIGNALS 24 HOURS
Recently started ANN that didn't loose time-they saw that nooen commented in their thread for 10 days, so they decided to hire bumping service to fake hype and interest. Looks like the same one V Systems hired,  accounts active in Spectre.ai are also active there as well.