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6001  Economy / Securities / Re: ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It on: March 20, 2013, 07:25:06 AM
Lets look at another angle of this, What about the next reward halving? It is supposed to cut the fair value by half for ASICMINER and half its dividends.

You could argue that BTC price would double so it is the same but that also means that if you sold your shares just before the halving and its effect. You sacrifice the future divalents to DOUBLE the worth of your shares!

What do you think guys?

Err, that isn't scheduled to happen until 2017, so not worth considering.

Not worth considering? It absolutely is.
2016

OK Nov 25th, 2016 as per https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Mining

Between now and then we have:
1) the upcoming transition of almost the entire network from GPU mining to 1st gen ASIC mining.
2) At least one perhaps more transitions to newer generation fo ASIC mining hardware.

How Friedcat handles these transitions, (especially the first one) as opposed to the competition, is going to have a much bigger impact on the daily price of ASICMINER shares than an event that is approximately 1330 days in the future. We have no way of knowing if ASICMINER will still exist, or be the biggest fish in the mining sea.

-helixone
The block reward isn't something that is going to happen or not happen - mining rewards will be cut in half. It's something you look at when considering the future revenues, and just because it's in 2016 doesn't mean it's not going to happen.

It's very hard to say what the mining sector will look like in a few years, but block reward halving matter and shouldn't be ignored.

So should we be considering that all bitcoins will have been mined by 2033 and will have to transition to a transaction based incentive model?

I say no, because the profitability of an investment in ASICMINER today will largely be impacted by how quickly Friedcat brings the next 50+ TH online, as opposed to if and when BFL can ship their upcoming production run of ASIC mining gear.
There's a difference between 2016 and 2033.

The profitability of ASICMINER today, like you said, depends on the other ASIC manufacturers and ASICMINER's deployment. The profitability of ASICMINER in 3 years is directly impacted by the block reward halving.
6002  Economy / Speculation / Re: Has some large dumping started on: March 20, 2013, 06:39:52 AM
We're just seeing resistance at $60.
6003  Economy / Gambling / Re: New BTC Found on: March 20, 2013, 06:38:10 AM
Please do not ask me how, but I KNOW this post should be in marketplace and not in gambling.  It is not gambling, the people behind the whole GBBG project and behind this new found are more then trustworthy...  

Silly me, I thanked for not passing a judgement and later noticed that I was moved to gambling after all...
Hey Merry Makowski, I'd think a CEO (of MMM Global, lol) would have better time to do than promote another worthless downline / AM site after your last venture ListZillion failed?

What happened to your website, http://quickestcasheverfeeder.com/ ? Are you telling me that "We Are Paying Every Single Day" no longer applies? Huh Or "The "6K Plus Fast Matrix Feeder Program" Is different from any other program - When you cycle in each phase you will always be put back into "Phase 1" again - to keep feeding it
and to keep it moving super fast - So all can cycle over & over again and get paid...Isn't That Wonderful - Wow What An Awesome Great Deal!!!"? (yes globalvillage/Merry actual said that).
Is this site dead too? "I am a founding partner of MSI, (My Social Income, previously starting as TokSee)"

What happened to another downline/AM site that you posted with the title of "The Most Important Post, Read ASAP"? Did you "Generated over 213K In ONE MONTH"?

Nice picture choice for your funding campaign too, boosts confidence!



Oh wait a second, why does it look familiar to a copyrighted image? You can't afford a graphics designer even through you are part of "net millions club"?

TL;DR: Yet another person wasting time in affiliate marketing. I have to say that I no longer believe aussie_striker is part of GBBG, just a sucker who brought into it and is trying to build their downline.. with no luck. (see globalvillage's referral address: http://blockchain.info/address/12mkm3JtJcbz6W7Pcy7nhij73hZGK1AQw9)
6004  Economy / Securities / Re: ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It on: March 20, 2013, 06:31:50 AM
Lets look at another angle of this, What about the next reward halving? It is supposed to cut the fair value by half for ASICMINER and half its dividends.

You could argue that BTC price would double so it is the same but that also means that if you sold your shares just before the halving and its effect. You sacrifice the future divalents to DOUBLE the worth of your shares!

What do you think guys?

Err, that isn't scheduled to happen until 2017, so not worth considering.

Not worth considering? It absolutely is.
2016

OK Nov 25th, 2016 as per https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Mining

Between now and then we have:
1) the upcoming transition of almost the entire network from GPU mining to 1st gen ASIC mining.
2) At least one perhaps more transitions to newer generation fo ASIC mining hardware.

How Friedcat handles these transitions, (especially the first one) as opposed to the competition, is going to have a much bigger impact on the daily price of ASICMINER shares than an event that is approximately 1330 days in the future. We have no way of knowing if ASICMINER will still exist, or be the biggest fish in the mining sea.

-helixone
The block reward isn't something that is going to happen or not happen - mining rewards will be cut in half. It's something you look at when considering the future revenues, and just because it's in 2016 doesn't mean it's not going to happen.

It's very hard to say what the mining sector will look like in a few years, but block reward halving matter and shouldn't be ignored.
6005  Economy / Securities / Re: ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It on: March 20, 2013, 06:18:27 AM
And it is 2013 now.
6006  Economy / Securities / Re: ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It on: March 20, 2013, 06:08:12 AM
Lets look at another angle of this, What about the next reward halving? It is supposed to cut the fair value by half for ASICMINER and half its dividends.

You could argue that BTC price would double so it is the same but that also means that if you sold your shares just before the halving and its effect. You sacrifice the future divalents to DOUBLE the worth of your shares!

What do you think guys?

Err, that isn't scheduled to happen until 2017, so not worth considering.

Not worth considering? It absolutely is.
6007  Economy / Gambling / Re: GBBG Bitcoin Fund on: March 20, 2013, 05:20:27 AM
Your current holdings and nav or GTFO.
6008  Economy / Securities / Re: S.DICE - SatoshiDICE 100% Dividend-Paying Asset on MPEx on: March 20, 2013, 05:05:04 AM
What the hell is happening with the sdice valuation? People are just dumping these shares with the end result being that I made since start of the year 300% on my bitcoins and at the same time barely 30% on sdice. To me, this does not make sense. Sdice has - proven- to raise the amount of btc earned and payed out, even while btc goes up dramatically in value. So logically sdice should go up as much as bitcoin goes up (ie the share price not dropping when btc goes up). Is it right to conclude that investors are behaving irrationally today? Or am I missing something?

Great company by the way Erik!
It's quite clear that people are not going to bet $1,000 as frequently as $100. BTC/USD definitely does influence the price of S.DICE, but not 1:1.

1) People may be wanting to cash out their bitcoin earnings and therefore selling their BTC assets
2) Concern over blockchain bloat and possible anti-spamTX actions taken by bitcoind (this is just speculation BTW, it will not actually be a problem)
3) Concern over S.DICE's poor luck in March (less divs too)
4) Large investors needing to liquidate their S.DICE shares (this was what happened last time)
5) BTC/USD exchange rate to some effect

Holding S.DICE assets instead of cold storage bitcoins brings you more risk, and is the risk really worth the returns?
6009  Economy / Speculation / Re: Is the MTGox - Coinlab deal in trouble? on: March 20, 2013, 04:55:57 AM
Someone mind explaining to me why you have to claim them on your taxes?
I thought legally Bitcoin was in a grey area at the moment.

It is legally grey as a currency. As an asset its very clear - when it increases above what you paid for it, you are supposed to pay taxes on that.

When you sell them. If you just hold then, you don't pay taxes till you sell
6010  Economy / Speculation / Re: And back to 60, ok I think it will rally to 75 and then correct back to 63 on: March 20, 2013, 04:55:14 AM
This is just how I was thinking when we moved from $12 to $15, good luck playing those cards.


so $2 crash to = 7.5 devaluation, so back to $7 $9 dollars from 50 - 60....

I don't care if is goes to 7 I will by the F8CK out of that and not care that i bought at 50 - 60

as it will recover, as it has from 2 to 30++

In fact even better so I can afford more BTC, I would view it as getting BTC at a huge discount from people who got scared!!!!


Wtf?

Bitcoin is not going to be $2 for the foreseeable future. The previous crash was because people thought that there was no future for Bitcoin.
6011  Economy / Speculation / Re: Correction on: March 20, 2013, 04:53:28 AM
The correction that we will get.. is upwards. Quit the FUD please.

It's not FUD, if it rises too fast into the 60's there will be a bit of a correction.

We've seen this many times before.
You might as well have not said it.

The was the psychological barrier of $50. If we hugged that barrier for only a day and we rose like this, then I'd say a correction is likely, but it didn't.
6012  Economy / Speculation / Re: The $1 barrier, the $50 barrier, and a >$300 peak. on: March 20, 2013, 04:51:45 AM
Wow so Pirate even had an affect on prices before he started his BTCS&T lol  Cheesy
Look at our rally, that must mean pirate is coming back with another ponzi!
6013  Economy / Speculation / Re: And back to 60, ok I think it will rally to 75 and then correct back to 63 on: March 20, 2013, 04:49:29 AM
OP: throwing darts on the wall
6014  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Virtual currency, Cryptocurrency, how about "network currency"? on: March 20, 2013, 04:48:56 AM
Virtual currency makes Bitcoin sound inferior. People think digital currency are their bank accounts. Decentralized currency will confuse many people. Cryptocurrency has a "shady" connection to Joe Public. How about the term 'network currency' which brings in the point that it is maintained by the network?
6015  Other / Archival / a on: March 19, 2013, 01:32:42 PM
A
6016  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Bitcoin mining at 2.0 mhash/s on: March 19, 2013, 11:53:57 AM
don't bother. period.
6017  Other / Off-topic / Re: hatred verbal abuse and threats of violence on bitcointalk.org on: March 19, 2013, 11:51:43 AM
thats nice to know. thank you for sharing. what is your point?
Point is you should stop wasting everyone's time. I'd ignore you but I don't want to see someone get scammed by you.
6018  Economy / Speculation / Re: MTGOX is manipulating BTC Value. on: March 19, 2013, 11:49:35 AM
There's something called arbitrage.
6019  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: "Developers should be compensated by coin design!" on: March 19, 2013, 11:45:24 AM
What 'event' is your thread referring to? Some alt-coin that pre-mined lots of coins?
This might not be such a bad idea.

"Stake" is a powerful motivating force for benevolence. But if you don't own a significant chunk of the money, what's keeping you honest?

It doesn't matter what coin I'm talking about. If it applies, it applies.

Stake is not a bad thing. There's nothing wrong with the dev mining as soon as the client is posted on github. When in the code you give certain address advantages, then you have a problem.
6020  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker on: March 19, 2013, 11:43:18 AM

Oh you.. don't scare me.
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