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6861  Other / Off-topic / Re: I really don't know what to make of programming anymore on: January 27, 2013, 02:29:39 PM
There is really a ton of great information here. And the ninety-ninety rule can be applied to learning a programming too - when you think you learned 90% of programming, you got 90% left that you don't know yet.
6862  Economy / Securities / Re: [NastyFans] NASTY MINING on: January 27, 2013, 02:14:46 PM
^ I understand your point completely but was that really necessary? Smiley

Was that dismissive comment really necessary?



See also: derailing...

arb

I didn't intend to be rude, and I apologize if you took that post that way (guess the Smiley instance can be interpreted in a significantly different wiay). However, the combination of a long inforgraphic (on a bitcoin mining asset thread!), and other made me feel that it's really overreacting, unnecessary to a single line comment. Not saying that it's not worthy to address, but a screen-height reply?

It's like getting annoyed by the term "manslaughter" or "manmade", and FYI I'm really supportive of gender identity, transgender people, using xe/xyr in neutral/preferred cases, etc. Gender is an arbitrary (and often assumed binary) divider, especially on the internet. But I'm going to stop before this thread gets even more offtopic Smiley

Ontopic; I wonder what would have happened if Nasty Mining reinvested a portion of the mining returns, in order to combat rising difficulties and present non-decreasing dividends.
6863  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Meteoric rise of BTC sucking life from Alt-Coins on: January 27, 2013, 02:04:12 PM
It is also worth noting that other projects are in development, but instead of "doing a BFL" by creating hype way before anything is even ready to be beta tested. It is best to ensure the projects are in a good enough working order before creating hype.

That way when they do get released, its ready to use. Which is best for the long term, instead of spoon feeding info now and again to cause pumps and dumps before anything is finalised.

The litecoin community learns all the great things bitcoin has brought to crypto community, and also litecoin will learn from bitcoins mistakes to make sure litecoin does not follow it like a deaf sheep.

As for bitcoins gold standard people keep giving it. Crypto-currencies are not a commodity, you cant make anything out of it, you cant eat it or drink it.

Crypto currencies are technically an Asset, much like a piece of art.

So its better to think of bitcoin as a Van Gogh and litecoin as a Picasso. Van Gogh will paint 21 million paintings and Picasso will paint over 80 million.
Just remember Van Gogh can be a little selfish and deaf when it comes to listening to his patrons requests, just like the bitcoin foundation. But Picasso is a totally different attitude, although some patrons will at first say it does not look like fine art at first glance with its crazy implementation, it does have an elegant beauty that will stand the test of time, and like the developers. Not afraid to learn new ways of doing things for the benefit of the patrons.

+84,000,000 LTC
Except most of the "other projects in development" are going to help Bitcoin and barely Litecoin.

And I'm sure you are all knowing of what is in development for Litecoin right?
I don't claim to be aware of everything, but there is definitely a massive "It is also worth noting that other projects are in development, but instead of "doing a BFL" by creating hype way before anything is even ready to be beta tested. It is best to ensure the projects are in a good enough working order before creating hype." project with tons of work put in it, and something *different* from blockchain/mining/etc Smiley
6864  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Scammer tag: Ploni on: January 27, 2013, 01:55:50 PM
Tag
6865  Other / Off-topic / Learn haskell. on: January 27, 2013, 01:52:44 PM
Do it. It's amazing. It will make your a better programmer. It has a steep learning curve, but it will help you.
6866  Other / Meta / Re: Private msg from mod "gmaxwell" asking me to stop my BFL hostile tone on: January 27, 2013, 01:46:59 PM
You turned a Butterfly Labs investigation into a Josh Zerlan personal attack.
6867  Other / Off-topic / Re: Abortion on: January 27, 2013, 12:27:02 PM
I think that abortion is somewhat immoral, but in the same way that doing drugs might be considered immoral. It's a personal matter, and not anyone else's business.

Sums it up!

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Personally, I believe it's fine for rape and incest victims, as well as for those who know for certain the fetus will be deformed if born. Also, if the life of the mother is on the line late in the pregnancy, but sometimes the baby will be saved and sacrifice the mother, though rare.

On the whole, I'm against it, but like I've stated above, some instances make it set okay with me.

This doesn't make sense. If the goal of banning abortion is to save lives, then why are some lives worth less than others?

Well, there's a legal distinction between manslaughter and murder, and this is pretty similar.
6868  Other / Off-topic / Re: I really don't know what to make of programming anymore on: January 27, 2013, 12:23:39 PM
First of all, understand that everyone faces challenges while learning programming, and if you don't have much experience & aren't learning it in a great way then it can be pretty hard.

Secondly, not everyone is due to be a programmer.

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I mean this in the nicest possible way, but not everyone should be a programmer. How often have you wished that a certain coworker of yours would suddenly have an epiphany one day and decide that this whole software engineering thing just isn't working out for them? How do you tell someone that the quality of their work is terrible and they'll never be good at their job -- so much so that they should literally quit and pursue a new career? I've wanted to many times, but I never had the guts.

http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/2008/12/programming-love-it-or-leave-it.html

That doesn't mean you shouldn't learn programming. It means that if you've tried your best, but still can't grasp basic concepts, or if you're feeling especially frustrated *constantly*, then maybe it's time to reconsider. Of course, most likely you'll look back at this thread in a few months and call yourself a noob Smiley
6869  Economy / Lending / Re: 12 Month Loan from Tradefortress (For The Record) on: January 27, 2013, 12:19:44 PM
Repaid another month off the loan @ mtgox average 17.07

$46.83 / 17.07 = 2.7434

Updated first post

Confirmed
6870  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Bryan Micon's Butterfly Labs Scammer Investigation including Josh Zerlan on: January 27, 2013, 12:16:38 PM
Well, no shit. Butterfly labs advertises on this forum.
6871  Economy / Securities / Re: [NastyFans] NASTY MINING on: January 27, 2013, 12:11:35 PM
^ I understand your point completely but was that really necessary? Smiley
6872  Economy / Securities / Re: CoinBr.MPBPT-O January success, interest rate is 9.99% on: January 27, 2013, 12:09:27 PM

January was looking like a boring month, until BTCUSD jumped up. That would likely adversely affect MPOE results, but such risk is mostly calculated in and it's likely the rate would stay in 4-5% territory. Then on Wednesday night serious whale action (over 10k BTC) on MPEx occurred - commentary. What was the exact intent is unclear, but the scheme seems to have failed and the money has stayed with MPOE, while also simultaneously raising the MPBOR. So... nobody knows what happens next month, the situation can change in matter of hours.

So this high January month should be viewed as an outlier, with earlier months' returns being more probable, unless something unexpected happens, in which case nobody knows what the result will be.
Another opinion can be that interest rate currently tends to increase over time because demand for options grows faster than capital provided by bondholders. But it's no clear trend, too... LOL, maybe I should hire a salesman to create some hype instead Grin Anyone?
Hire smoothie  Cheesy
6873  Other / Meta / Re: Private msg from mod "gmaxwell" asking me to stop my BFL hostile tone on: January 27, 2013, 12:06:59 PM
As much as you think BFL is a scam and Josh is a [blah], you probably should keep the tone down a little...

Either way, more drama about gmaxwell in the custom hardware section (putting words in other people's mouths): https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=138993.0
6874  Economy / Securities / Re: [BTC-TC] Community Moderated Virtual Securities Exchange (btct.co) on: January 27, 2013, 08:20:23 AM
Gox runs their own yubikey server. Then they dont have to rely on a third party.

Can other sites use it?  Or are the gox yubikeys essentially gox-only?


I think its insecure to use them on different sites ? Thats why they tell you not to use non gox yubikeys to login.

Appreciate the info.  I've ordered a couple.  Will play with 'em when they arrive.  Smiley

Cheers.

This is awesome  Grin
6875  Other / Off-topic / Re: I really don't know what to make of programming anymore on: January 27, 2013, 07:57:00 AM
Even if you know how to program, you might not find it as enjoyable as learning it Tongue
6876  Economy / Securities / Re: [BitFunder] Asset Exchange Marketplace on: January 27, 2013, 07:41:47 AM
Very trivial glitch to fix.

My transactions list includes this:

2013-01-26 03:18:43    DIVIDEND: (CoinBr.MPBPT-O)
0 * ฿0.10999000

I have held these in the past but presently don't have any.  Looks like when you did the buy-back thing on it, you added transactions for everyone who was in the transaction table for it rather than just for those who currently held more than 0 shares.

No funds were added/subtracted and no harm done - other than a spammy message in my transaction list Smiley

That's like a one line fix Tongue

Just add && amount > 0 to the SQL query.

Well you DO need to insert it into the right place in the query (and maybe qualify it with which table/query/view amount is to be taken from - which could be the bug in first place if 'amount' occurs as a field both in the transactions table and also in some query used to get current holdings).  Would guess current quantity held isn't a value stored in an actual database table (that would break normalisation) but rather a value in a query (or a virtual table - dunno which RDBMS they use).
Obviously it depends on the implementation / structure but the site is storing the 0 * part..
6877  Economy / Securities / Re: [BitFunder] Asset Exchange Marketplace on: January 27, 2013, 06:35:24 AM
Very trivial glitch to fix.

My transactions list includes this:

2013-01-26 03:18:43    DIVIDEND: (CoinBr.MPBPT-O)
0 * ฿0.10999000

I have held these in the past but presently don't have any.  Looks like when you did the buy-back thing on it, you added transactions for everyone who was in the transaction table for it rather than just for those who currently held more than 0 shares.

No funds were added/subtracted and no harm done - other than a spammy message in my transaction list Smiley

That's like a one line fix Tongue

Just add && amount > 0 to the SQL query.
6878  Other / Off-topic / Re: Bitcointalk Mafia Signups - Bitcoin Prizes & Free 0.05 BTC! on: January 27, 2013, 06:14:04 AM
Awesome!

FYI, if this has any success I have an already developed mafia site which I'll add bitcoin wagering features Smiley
6879  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Meteoric rise of BTC sucking life from Alt-Coins on: January 27, 2013, 06:12:09 AM
It is also worth noting that other projects are in development, but instead of "doing a BFL" by creating hype way before anything is even ready to be beta tested. It is best to ensure the projects are in a good enough working order before creating hype.

That way when they do get released, its ready to use. Which is best for the long term, instead of spoon feeding info now and again to cause pumps and dumps before anything is finalised.

The litecoin community learns all the great things bitcoin has brought to crypto community, and also litecoin will learn from bitcoins mistakes to make sure litecoin does not follow it like a deaf sheep.

As for bitcoins gold standard people keep giving it. Crypto-currencies are not a commodity, you cant make anything out of it, you cant eat it or drink it.

Crypto currencies are technically an Asset, much like a piece of art.

So its better to think of bitcoin as a Van Gogh and litecoin as a Picasso. Van Gogh will paint 21 million paintings and Picasso will paint over 80 million.
Just remember Van Gogh can be a little selfish and deaf when it comes to listening to his patrons requests, just like the bitcoin foundation. But Picasso is a totally different attitude, although some patrons will at first say it does not look like fine art at first glance with its crazy implementation, it does have an elegant beauty that will stand the test of time, and like the developers. Not afraid to learn new ways of doing things for the benefit of the patrons.

+84,000,000 LTC
Except most of the "other projects in development" are going to help Bitcoin and barely Litecoin.
6880  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Meteoric rise of BTC sucking life from Alt-Coins on: January 27, 2013, 04:48:10 AM
A lot of people purchased alt coins to speculate on them. Now, they see that the value isn't really going up, especially when they compare it to the "gold standard" of Bitcoin. It's clear why a lot of the speculators and holders are moving out.
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