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621  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Calm the pressure on: October 06, 2023, 04:50:26 PM
It's not always too late to invest in bitcoins, if you have ever miss any Bitcoin bull run or you have heard about the bitcoins bull run and you are excited to take actions, my simple advice is, calm the pressure. This advice is driven from the view point of the economy struggles of many, avoid over thinking , work hard to earn money and diversify your investment. Most persons in the crypto space are dying in the inside because they do not have money to invest due to their present circumstance. If you do not have money to invest now, please ease the pressure, you may have more than enough to invest in the future. Calm the pressure my dear friends, don't borrow money, I repeat, don't borrow money to invest on Cryptocurrency, because it is a volatile asset. Life is about risk which you have heard  countless times but it will be unwise to take loan to buy bitcoins.


There are few important skills that I have learnt by being a part of this forum.
Patience is something that is definitely required whether you are trading, gambling or investing and holding cryptocurrencies and that is something I have learnt by being here.
Living within your means gives us the ability to manage our expenses, limit the losses and increase our profits steadily and I have learnt this well over the years.
Dollar cost average is the best technique to become rich over the long term and this is why keep investing in bitcoin at regular intervals to accumulate more over the long run.
622  Local / India / Re: needs advise and direction on: October 06, 2023, 04:38:07 PM
Welcome to the forum. You have come to the right place to increase your knowledge in the crypto domain.
We already have a pinned post which contains a lot of sources to enrich your knowledge.
Other than the list provided by @pakhitheboss  you can also utilize these resources as per your interest.
Bitcoin Resources - Consolidate List (India Specific) v2.O
623  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Lotteries and possibility vs. probability on: October 06, 2023, 04:18:05 PM
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It's not fake and he has the right to dream to win big. There is nothing wrong about that.
The only problem is that he should understand that his chances of winning the jackpot will always remain the same as long as he participate s in the lotteries every now and then.
Yoy need to use maths and probabilities to explain the maths to him.

Actually it is. I don't know about your locality but there are local shops in here which provide lotteries and there's no way to verify if those are real.
If you win the lottery your lottery number gets displayed in the newspaper but who knows that the number we get are not fake.
624  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in-$200 FreeBTC⭐Win Lambo🔥0.2BTC DailyJackpot🏆$32,500 Wager Contest on: October 06, 2023, 03:58:04 PM
How do I know the time from when I will get 8 spins daily ? Added a screenshot below if it helps.
You will get 8 WOF spins per day, if you hold the 12500 tokens for 360 days.
To see the table displaying benefits you get for holding FUN tokens after a certain time, just go to "Premimum" section and scroll down.
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Do I need to hold FUN tokens on my freebitcoin wallet in order to get free WOF spins? I have FUN tokens, but I hold them on my wallet. Can I connect my Metamask to a freebitcoin site in order to get 8 free WOV spins?
No to your later question, but yes to your former question .
Freebitco is not a decentralized casino, or a web3 casino as most of us better prefer its called,  the site is a web2 based, which means, its centralized, and as such, you can not connect your metamask or any other web3 supported wallet to the site.

So if you own FUN token and want to enjoy the benefits that comes with holding the tokens, then you will have to move the token to Freebitco website and hold it there, this is the only way you get to enjoy the free wheel of fortune spins, earning interest on the tokens you hold, plus enjoy a premium treat on your freebitco account.

Okay. I got it. Thanks to everyone who answered my question. Freebitcoin gives good bonuses for holding FUN tokens, but for that I have to transfer them to the casino site. Too bad there is no option for users to connect their Metamask wallet. I don't like the idea of depositing FUN on freebitcoin because I don't want to hold my funds on centralized resources.

As others have already mentioned that you need to hold the FUN tokens in freebitco.in account you should also notice that you need to hold the tokens for a certain amount of time.
Given that you are not willing to hold the fun tokens on freebitco.in I think you would also not want to hold it for such longer durations even if freebitco.in had the option to connect to metamask.
While it's good not to trust centralized sites but if you had been around longer then you would know how reputable is freebitco.in.
Even I don't hold much on centralized sites and 12500 tokens is something that falls under my risk taking capability.
625  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: How I heard about Bitcoin and my experience on it on: October 05, 2023, 04:47:21 PM
I heard about Bitcoin from a friend in the year 2013 when I just got admitted to college. I took  little interest in it, but I was unwilling to purchase it with my funds because it was not very popular then and I lacked much business mindset. I even got more discouraged owing to the fact that many ponzi schemes were present and I couldn't differentiate the bad from the good. To be honest, I  saw it as a liability, instead of an asset that it was. I later reluctantly purchased $230 worth of Bitcoin around May 2014 after much persuasion from my friend and seeing that the price was fast rising. The fall of 2015 shook me to my bones and I lost hope again because I lost so much funds. Depressed at the loss I've incurred and without much knowledge on HODLing my coins and the possibility of it experiencing an upward trend, I sold off all my coins, hated anything concerning crypto and swore never to get involved again. The bull run of 2019 -2020 happened under my watch, but I still kept my grudge which had then developed into fear that I will still loose my funds again. I have friends whom gained from the trend and became really wealthy while I was locked up in my pessimistic mindset. As I was introduced to this forum, I was able to see that Bitcoin held much more prospects then I ever thought and would ever believe. My convinctions are now positive and I'll be investing again. I wouldn't want to be left out for the third time. Bitcoin here I come!!!.

I know how it feels because I have experienced the same once. By once I mean I bought and sold bitcoin once but when I saw it recover I started accumulating.
The only mistake I did was to keep accumulating and selling during ATH and taking profits. I could have got some nice profits but we never know the future.
I am still holding and won't sell any of it before the next ATH. Taking profits is a skill and I am bad at it but it eventually turned out be a boon because the price grew so much in last few years.
626  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: next bitcoin? on: October 05, 2023, 04:40:14 PM
I am a high school student. I learned about Bitcoin, but it's too late. I was so young. Because I was 4 years old in 2009. But as history tells us, bitcoin killer will emerge one day. I want to find out such coin, but I don't have enought knowledge and ability to do that.. I want to ask the smart people here. Is there a coin that is similar to Bitcoin now? something that is perfectly decentralized. I want to invest there. If there's a coin you're making, is fine too. Just let me know. I hope this post becomes a legend.

I would rather say, since you are a high school student it's not too late !!!
You are very young and investing in promising assets like bitcoin in such a young age is very beneficial for financial freedom.
Start investing in bitcoin and accumulate as much as you can while its relevantly cheaper.
As you grow your portfolio, try to diversify your portfolio into other promising assets.
627  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Lotteries and possibility vs. probability on: October 05, 2023, 04:35:58 PM

When you buy, you always think of the possibility that when you wake up tomorrow you'll see your number on the papers. My old pa does it all the time to this day.

Nothing beats HOPE. It's the only thing that keeps the poor old 65-year-old man from buying tickets in hopes that he might save all the rest of his family from the hell hole we've been in all our lives. We wouldn't want to kill his dream of winning and it's almost like a habit of the old man to buy tickets, even allocate a few funds for it.

Even my dad has this crazy hope of winning a lottery. He buys it at regular intervals in the hope that he will big some day and live the rest of his life in luxury.
I don't want to kill his hope but I do advice him not to waste money in lotteries because I think buying local lotteries from shops are fake.
628  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Have you seen gambling advertisements on TV? Opinion. on: October 05, 2023, 04:17:51 PM
While watching TV with my kid, I've watched various advertisements of gambling nature (let's say for example, Rummy123, RummyCircle, A23 Rummy, etc.)
These are all specifically Indian ads, but I'm sure you may have seen various gambling advertisements, some banners at boundaries when cricket is ongoing, even in any other sport. How would a kid ignore those things, they might just come and ask you about what is it. Till when can we lie to them? Don't you think that the frequency of such ads must be less in order to let the kids not get trapped into gambling and don't do it at such a small age?

There was an announcement recently that ICC is now allowing gambling sponsors to display their ads and I guess that is why these ads have increased.
Earlier it wasn't displayed on so many platforms but these days its displayed almost everywhere.
I guess other than educating our kids not to fall for it there's nothing we can do about it.

You make it sounds as if education was not good enough to face the problem of not wanting your kids to get into the gambling world.
We should not underestimate what a small lesson about Math , statistics and the laws of game can do, so anyone is aware on the actual chances of getting money out a casino.

Kids are more intelligent than people think. So if one has a 8-10 year old son, it would be advisable to start to talk to them about chances, it is simple enough, one can use a coin or a dice to start. In most universities where science and engineering is taught, those are recurrent subjects anyways (more complex, of course).

If only education system of every country was so good then there would be intelligent people today all around the world.
But the fact is that there are a lot of stupid people than intelligent ones. Coming to the topic, I feel it is absolutely required for a parent to monitor his children.
If we don't then chances are there that he/she might wrong decisions which they should have avoided.
Guiding our children to the right path should be the first priority.
629  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in-$200 FreeBTC⭐Win Lambo🔥0.2BTC DailyJackpot🏆$32,500 Wager Contest on: October 05, 2023, 04:01:22 PM
360 days to have access to 8 daily WoF spins. I don't know what those levels mean. I'm level 7 here and it's already maxed... If you want to have access to 8 daily spins faster, you have to reach the further tiers of premium program by holding more FUN.

No I am fine. My target was 12500 and I have accumulated those. Furthermore, to hold the tokens that long I have locked the tokens so that I don't sell it.
Right now I have locked the tokens for 180 days so that I get 7 spins at the end of maturity.
The plan is to lock it once again and finally reach to 8 spins and then continue to hold it as long as it's profitable.

630  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Have you seen gambling advertisements on TV? Opinion. on: October 04, 2023, 04:21:59 PM
While watching TV with my kid, I've watched various advertisements of gambling nature (let's say for example, Rummy123, RummyCircle, A23 Rummy, etc.)
These are all specifically Indian ads, but I'm sure you may have seen various gambling advertisements, some banners at boundaries when cricket is ongoing, even in any other sport. How would a kid ignore those things, they might just come and ask you about what is it. Till when can we lie to them? Don't you think that the frequency of such ads must be less in order to let the kids not get trapped into gambling and don't do it at such a small age?

There was an announcement recently that ICC is now allowing gambling sponsors to display their ads and I guess that is why these ads have increased.
Earlier it wasn't displayed on so many platforms but these days its displayed almost everywhere.
I guess other than educating our kids not to fall for it there's nothing we can do about it.
631  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in-$200 FreeBTC⭐Win Lambo🔥0.2BTC DailyJackpot🏆$32,500 Wager Contest on: October 04, 2023, 04:13:39 PM
My FUN tokens which were locked just got matured today and now I have accumulated 12500 tokens which is the sweet spot.
I would get 8 WoF spins daily but I guess I need to hold the tokens for sometime.
How do I know the time from when I will get 8 spins daily ? Added a screenshot below if it helps.

What is this Level 1 and Level 2 ? I didn't get this.
632  Local / India / Re: India is creating a Global database of Crypto Exchanges. on: October 04, 2023, 04:05:03 PM
I recently came across this news on Economic times. All global CEX have been or are being requested to share their user database to the government of India. Every major CEX has made it mandatory for its users to pass KYC, it will be easy for them to collate the data and share it with India. India took this responsibility as it had the Presidency of the G20 summit 2023.

The problem that India will face is that these exchanges are based in countries that are tax heaven, those exchanges cannot be forced to share the data. India has time till March 2024 to come up with the database before the next G20 summit in 2024. Once the database is created it will be shared with the G21 group to fight against crime commited using cryptocurrency.

What do you think will be the impact of this database to the Indian community that are using International centralized exchanges?

Thanks.

So they are planning to invest 200 cr in their development center and improve their infrastructure but they haven't mentioned anything about their development plans.
If there are plans of making development to their exchange or something new in the crypto sphere then it would be great.
Even if they are not making developments in the crypto sphere and making the development elsewhere then I take it as a positive sign because it will contribute to India's growth and boost economy.
633  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Getting paid on gambling accounts on: October 02, 2023, 04:28:57 PM
I made a mistake of getting paid for signature campaign in gambling platform accounts.
When I got my payment, I thought I would slowly increase the amount by about 5-10% before I initiate a withdrawal. But I quickly lost control of my emotions and ended up blowing the entire balance of my account. This happened more than once, it happened about 5 times as I received money from different sources.
It’s important for me to tell this story so that others don’t make the same mistake I did. This has been a huge life lesson in managing money and emotional self-discipline .

You are in the forum for quite some time now and I wonder how you made such a mistake.
It's sad to know it took you 5 times to understand your mistake. You should have learnt it at most 2 times blowing up your account.
But I am glad you at least acknowledged it now. Change your campaign address to a self custodial wallet and set up a strict budget for gambling.
634  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in-$200 FreeBTC⭐Win Lambo0.2BTC DailyJackpot$32,500 Wager Contest on: October 02, 2023, 04:11:10 PM
Can you tell exactly how much you gain money after four hours of Auto bet, and by putting per bet at 5 satoshi ? Also, what is your strategy for this? Do you double the bet on every loss and once you win, you will be back to 5 satoshi per bet ?

I tried this game with the setting i just mentioned above, but even after few hours of play, i either lose all my money or i end up in break even, not losing and not winning much at the end of the day.

He has already posted his strategy in his previous posts. You can find it below.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=320959.msg62920878#msg62920878


Did you run autobet for straight 5 days? Or were you just playing for 5 days when you had a free time? Once I tried a strategy like that, had my computer turn on for straight 12 hours, went from 0.001BTC to 0.006 BTC, then withdrew 0.005 BTC, left 0.001 BTC on account balance and tried again, won 0.005 BTC and withdrew 0.004. Then, the next day I tried the same with 0.001 balance, lost it, repeated and lost again. My conclusion is that you shouldn't stick with strategies and overall, you shouldn't play for profit. There is simply no way to beat house because it has 100% guaranteed advantage over you.

So, my advice for you is to never stick with a strategy that has worked for you yesterday because there is no guarantee that it will work today.

I run autobet everyday for 3-4 hours, with same strategy. That last time when I lose it all it was my fault. I was little late for that promo( 1 hour left to claim) . So I put 25 satoshi per bet instead of 5 satoshi. That’s why I lose all.

You should have skipped that day instead of going in with rush and greed. May be if you would have avoided playing that day then you would have saved some coins.
635  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Casino is a Games of Chance and Entertainment on: October 02, 2023, 02:56:24 PM
Stopping to repeat mistakes in gambling is easier said than done. I guess everyone knows some of these spectacular poker hands at the WSOP. That's a great example because most of the time the winner was someone who made a good number of mistakes. There are some of the wildest hands only because someone made a mistake almost knowingly and everybody else knew it as well. Jamie Gold is one of those guys who played really bad in so many situations and yet being the winner was the result. In the end these games all involve luck and you can play perfect poker, make all the moves that everybody thinks are right and yet the chance to win a huge tournament are so damn little. Imagine you play 10 hands in the showdown with a 90:10 chance. If you were to go for these 10 showdowns, the chances are quite high to lose it.

I think in a casino it is really much less about strategy, but I don't know too much about it. Though when I think about roulette, the best chance I can get is a little below 50% of winning per round. There are lots of videos on youtube with special tactics and how they get debunked because it's just not true unless some illegal stuff is applied. If anyone here knows a strategy with guaranteed profit, feel free to share it Tongue

If there was such a strategy then why would anybody share it ? They would keep it to themselves instead and keep making money while they can.
Gambling does involve luck and without that nobody is gonna win. In fact all those you people who win despite by making mistakes are winning because of luck.
But the wise ones are those who identify their mistakes and rectify it the next time.

That is why I made that smiley at the end, nobody would share a winning strategy if there was one, and those sharing those strategies on youtube don't make their money from the strategies they share, but from ads and the people watching their videos.

Aren't you contradicting yourself when you first correctly say that it is all pure luck and then at the end you say that the wise ones identify and rectify their mistakes? Something doesn't add up here...

Yeah, it does sound a little contradicting but what my point was is the gambling does require luck and even if we have a good strategy but if we don't have luck by our side then we will lose the round.
The second part was that while gambling we tend to make some mistakes for example going beyond our budget.
There are many such mistakes we do which we regret later but the wise ones are those that learn from their mistakes and rectify their mistakes.
636  Local / India / Re: Oct 1 | Tax on online gaming & casinos set to 28% on: October 02, 2023, 02:50:16 PM


But the question is that tax rate for crypto earnings is still 30%. So the earnings from crypto gambling sites would be taxed at 30% or 28% ?
I personally think it would be 30% since crypto is involved and the government wouldn't leave a place where more tax can be collected.

Source: Online gaming: 28% GST comes into effect from October 1, CBIC makes announcement

Assuming we go through the legal way, as in you use a crypto casino to play and earn some profits then transfer the winning amount to an Indian exchange. You then convert your winning to INR. The taxable amount after the TDS deduction would be nil as it does not fall under capital gain if you did the conversion on the same day. You won't be paying 30 percent tax as per your earnings as it does not show you made a profit. The government cannot go after International crypto casinos that are based on a foreign soli regardless of you being a verified KYC user.

Unless you buy crypto, gamble it, take the profits and exchange it to fiat again on the same day, it's not as simple as it sounds.
The tax calculation will be complicated when crypto is involved and more complicated when gambling is making losses to us.

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The law only applies to those individuals who are using local casinos with fiat money. This is not quantum computing or something out of logic to understand. This is a simple loophole in which the Indian government cannot do anything. Unless they come up with a law that forces a user to verify their personal wallet. Why I talked about the personal wallet is for you to understand.

Is it mentioned anywhere that the law does not apply to crypto casino sites ?



Is it only on the winnings?
One of my friends earlier told me that they rolled out something like we will be taxed even on our deposits no matter if we win anything or not, he said that this is to reduce the use of apps like Dream11 and all. Btw, I'd also like to mention that they got a notice of ₹25,000 crores for tax evasion and are 1 of the 12 companies to whom the notices were sent, totalling it over ₹55,000 crores.

If things will go this way, no wonder people will do their best to fly away from the country thinking that everything is being tightened up just to let the poor remain poor or become poorer, and the riches become richer as hell.  Undecided

As per the previous rule, TDS was applied on winnings from gaming and so I assume that the new law would be on winnings too.
Yet, I am not sure and so I cannot guarantee the same and further clarity is required for the new law.
637  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trading can ruin you on: October 01, 2023, 06:44:55 AM
Trading is most times profitable and sometimes challenging to traders, but it can ruin you just as gambling if you don't know how before venturing into it,  I have had a handful of terrible experience while trading and I discovered that it can return you to square one in terms of your finances if precautions is not taken.

Though am a better trader now, but I still thred with caution,  the best way for newbie to navigate their way in the market is to buy and hold, then sell when the price goes up.
When it comes to future market, newbie should stay off because it's for experience traders, even if you run a poll of people to tell of their experience in trading in this forum, %80 of people will rule out trading as a no go area based on their terrible experience while trading.

So newbie, stay of trading futures if you know nothing about technical analysis or fundamental analysis for not to be ruined.

Buy low sell high is easier said than done. We all have been there and sold the coins in panic.
We should have a strong self control to stick to our targets and stay focused because during the times of high volatility, it's hard not to sell.
Staying away from futures is mandatory for newbies though. Newbies shouldn't go for futures as long as they know what they are doing.
638  Local / India / Oct 1 | Tax on online gaming & casinos set to 28% on: October 01, 2023, 06:24:41 AM
Starting October 1 which is today, new GST rates are applied on earnings from online gaming, casino sites and horse racing.
Earlier, tax was applied on net winnings from online gaming only if the winning amount was more than 10,000.
But then later it was announced that TDS of 30% would be applied on all online gaming winnings.
Now they have decided that it would be 28% GST on online gaming winnings which is a relief of 2% from previous tax rates.
I had also made a post about it earlier 30% TDS on online gaming

But the question is that tax rate for crypto earnings is still 30%. So the earnings from crypto gambling sites would be taxed at 30% or 28% ?
I personally think it would be 30% since crypto is involved and the government wouldn't leave a place where more tax can be collected.

Source: Online gaming: 28% GST comes into effect from October 1, CBIC makes announcement
639  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Navigating the World of Online Gambling on: October 01, 2023, 06:07:13 AM
There are some gamblers who come to know about their addiction to gambling even after a long time. There are many people who do not understand the addiction even after gambling for a long time. Gambling has negative effects mainly for those who do not understand the addiction. There are some gamblers who take a break from gambling temporarily when they lose their money and become active again after managing their money. Those who are able to understand them as addicts should share their gambling thought with someone they trust so that he can give him good suggestions to recover from his addiction.

I fall under the category of those gamblers who take a break after losing a decent amount of money in gambling.
Mostly the breaks are for few weeks until I make a new deposit again and start gambling.
I think it is necessary to take short breaks so that we don't get addicted to gambling.
It also makes us a responsible gambler by keeping a track of our losses.
This is good because you can indirectly limit and control the gambling activities that you have carried out because most of the gamblers out there still find it difficult to stop gambling when they lose and they are more likely to choose to continue playing or betting in the hope of catching up on their losses.
When you can stop easily to rest then you have become a great gambler and not all gamblers can be like you.

Moreover taking a break when you experience defeat can make you calmer easier to control your emotions and of course you can come back again in the future full of confidence.

It does require a strong will to stop though. We all know how tempting it can be to just keep trying your luck to win more.
Even I have experienced losses like these once upon a time but then taking breaks made me understood that it will ruin my bank balance.
Once losses go above the budget then the problem starts and the fix was to limit the losses and set up a strict budget for gambling and follow it strictly.
640  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Casino is a Games of Chance and Entertainment on: October 01, 2023, 06:03:06 AM
Stopping to repeat mistakes in gambling is easier said than done. I guess everyone knows some of these spectacular poker hands at the WSOP. That's a great example because most of the time the winner was someone who made a good number of mistakes. There are some of the wildest hands only because someone made a mistake almost knowingly and everybody else knew it as well. Jamie Gold is one of those guys who played really bad in so many situations and yet being the winner was the result. In the end these games all involve luck and you can play perfect poker, make all the moves that everybody thinks are right and yet the chance to win a huge tournament are so damn little. Imagine you play 10 hands in the showdown with a 90:10 chance. If you were to go for these 10 showdowns, the chances are quite high to lose it.

I think in a casino it is really much less about strategy, but I don't know too much about it. Though when I think about roulette, the best chance I can get is a little below 50% of winning per round. There are lots of videos on youtube with special tactics and how they get debunked because it's just not true unless some illegal stuff is applied. If anyone here knows a strategy with guaranteed profit, feel free to share it Tongue

If there was such a strategy then why would anybody share it ? They would keep it to themselves instead and keep making money while they can.
Gambling does involve luck and without that nobody is gonna win. In fact all those you people who win despite by making mistakes are winning because of luck.
But the wise ones are those who identify their mistakes and rectify it the next time.
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