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641  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2022–23 PBA Commissioner's Cup on: July 14, 2023, 11:21:29 AM
Another win means more money to use for your journey, still kicking alive Kabayan! more luck to you!

Thanks kabayan, yeah still alive and kicking, hope when the PBA-on-tour ends, i'm still in the profit zone.

Not a good start for me this day as I have bet for the Meralco Bolts at the end of the first half ML @3.01, thought that was a nice catch as the score was 47-45, just a two-point lead by Blackwater but it turned out to be a trap hehe, Blackwater eventually won the game, 89-82.

Phoenix ML @2.78 vs NorthPort
Phoenix +4.5 @1.95 vs NorthPort

^^ My bet for the second game, hoping that i can recover my first game lose.
642  Local / Pamilihan / Re: NBA discussion, betting and etc. on: July 14, 2023, 11:00:08 AM
Mukhang may malaking maco-content nanaman ang mga vlogger kuno today dahil pinapasok na finally si Kai for a few minutes. Kaso nga lang hindi naging impressive yung pasok nya, dahil na nga rin siguro sa panget na systema ng Orlando kaya't it's not a big surprise kung bakit palaging tambak. Nalilito din si Kai kung anung gagawin nya kapag hawak nya ang bola kasi hindi gumagalaw ang opensa ng orlando, parang nag titinginan lang at parang hindi rin alam kung anong play ang gagawin LOL. One of the huge mistake nga lang kay Kai offensively ay natatakot syang tumira sa perimeter while inaatrasan sya ng depensa ng kalaban.
Defensively, Kai a good factor, pero hindi parin sapat kelangan talaga total package at magaling din talaga sana sa opensa. Though there are still a lot of room for improvement para sa bata, I have nothing but respect for Kai's hardwork para sa NBA journey nya.

Haha, oo nga, grabe yong mga video ngayon tungkol sa kanyang kauna-unahang pagpasok sa NBA summer league at tama ka kabayan, malaking content to para sa mga vlogger na sinusubaybayan si Kai Sotto.

Pinanood ko yong video at parang nag-aalangan pa si Kai, yong takbo nya ay medyo mahina, yong bang parang walang gana maglaro at natutulak pa siya sa ilalim kaya kailangan pa nyang mag-add ng muscle para naman may palag sa banggaan sa ilalim pero may epekto naman sa depensa yong presence nya at sinamahan pa ng 3 blocks yong 6 points nya kaya goods na rin yon at sana sa susunod ay mataas na yong playing time nya para naman maipakita yong kakayahan nya.
643  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2022–23 PBA Commissioner's Cup on: July 13, 2023, 11:45:45 AM
In on-tour games TNT still not winning anything and with what bisdak bet he managed again to win as the outcome only gives ROS 6 points that's something far from the handicap bookies gave for TNT. Not sure why it was being brought here about the regular season opportunities of TNT as we all witness what they've got last season, they are still in the competitive status and with coach Jolas we might see them competing as hard as what the fans expect from them.

FOr now, just chill and continue enjoying what the PBA is offering as the preparation for the world tournament is affecting the
PBA, let's hope for the best in this upcoming new season.

Maybe he was not following the games here and thought that the games held were for the regular season  Cool.

That 21.5 points handicap was a sure winner even before tip-off hehe, just too wide of a spread considering how a defense-oriented ROS played, i mean coach Yeng Guiao will not be happy at all if his players won't play defense and with that, their offensive output will also be affected, low scoring game i supposed but surprised to see that the total over-all score reached 200+.

If my memory serves me right, the ML odds pre-game for TNT to win was @11.xx, that was huge if you have bet for them and TNT won the game.

644  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Nonito Donaire vs Alejandro Santiago for WBC bantamweight (july15,2023 on: July 13, 2023, 11:17:30 AM
^ And I thought that the fight is going to be cancelled.

But if they are going to be included in the Spence vs. Crawford then the better for Nonito itself. For sure everyone is excited to see this fight in the undercard for the one of the most anticipated fight this year. I might chance my stance on the numbers, it might reach near 1 million because of this inclusion in the line up. So still, Donaire is the favorite although Santiago is chirping away some odds on his favor too.

I'm a bit disappointed that i won't be watching this fight on this weekend but on the other hand, happy that in spite of all of the circumstances leading into this fight, still this will happen and the good thing is that it will be in the undercard of the most awaited fight for this year.

As what @bbc,reporter have said that this fight will add more eyes to the Spencer-Crawford fight and definitely, it will also add revenue on the PPV as some of the millions of fans of Nonito will buy just to watch this fight.

If the odds for Santiago continues to go high then good for those who still believe in the power of the old man, might be slower this time but the timing is still there and he just needed a couple of punches to KO Santiago I believe.
645  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2022–23 PBA Commissioner's Cup on: July 12, 2023, 03:32:34 AM
On that note, if the coach is prioritizing those players who have already secured their spot, we might not see Kai getting good minutes. Maybe he will be playing to give some rest to those priority players, enough to say that he is able to play during the summer league, but the hope of being noticed might be another question. As a fan, I want him to show his talent and develop, but if there's nothing to show up, or I mean there's not enough playing time to showcase that talent, then we might not expect anything great to happen to Kai.

Maybe it's still not for him, or we never know what will happen. We're still hoping and looking for the best outcome for Kai.

I think you may be right there mate, Kai Sotto might not get good playing minutes in the summer league because of that reason. On its second game, the Magic still hasn't fielded Kai Sotto, even a single minute so we might as well not hope that Kai Sotto will make it into the NBA, sad to say that but that would be the truth.

NLEX vs Meralco Bolts
TNT Katropa vs Rain Or Shine


^^ Games for tomorrow, odds not out yet but the first game looks pretty even I think and either team could win the game so will bet for the underdog on that game but on the second game, ROS will be the favorite and I'll go for them.

Sad to say that the hope of seeing him having some minutes again didn't materialize as the coach still bench him and not give him a chance to step inside and play, we can't blame anyone as they have the control over the players who they want to take part of their team, even the shout of some fans, nothing change as Kai continue to sit in the bench till the end of the game.

Best of luck, Kabayan! "abang abang na muna ng game"

For me, Kai Sotto isn't for the NBA at the moment, his only asset is his height which is not enough for you to become an NBA player and we have seen that on many players that have tried their luck on the big league but doesn't have much success so for now Kai must understand that he will not that minutes to play in the summer league.

Back to the PBA:

NLEX ML @2.50 vs Meralco
TNT +21.5 @1.85 vs ROS


I've decided to bet on the TNT because of that wide spread, that is too much that i think they can cover that one easily.
646  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Nonito Donaire vs Alejandro Santiago for WBC bantamweight title on: July 12, 2023, 01:49:04 AM
^^ Yes, saw this posts, not sure if the words comes directly from Donaire's mouth, but in any case, yes, I think I would say that 90% of the current 118 lbs, Donaire can beat them, not name Naoya Inoue.

So just a couple more days, between the two, and hopefully we will see some hype in the media as well as this is very important fight because WBC will have a new bantamweight champion in the process.

Yeah, I am pretty sure Donaire is aware of the current situation. The power of Donaire is just too much in this division. Since becoming a champion after that huge KO upset over Vic Darchinyan, there were only 2 fighters in this division and below that were able to survive Donaire's power punches, long-time champion Omar Narvaez who went turtle defense throughout the whole fight and Rafael Concepcion who came in 2 division overweight.

A few more days left and we will see if Donaire who's turning 41 this year will be able to break his own previous record as the oldest champion in this division's history. Santiago is not a KO artist so he is expected to move and box. Santiago only suffered a single knockdown in his whole career once which means his chin is tough and it will be put to another huge test this weekend. And we will also see if Donaire won't tire out in the late rounds if he cannot catch Santiago in the first 7 rounds.

That's good trivia mate, his losses after that Rigo fight were above the bantamweight division (except Inoue fight) but in this division, Donaire is just too much for his opponent so there is a great possibility that he would break his own record as the oldest to become a world champion in this division.

One thing that I found interesting is that as the fight day approaches, the odds for Donaire to win also increase, it was at @1.58 the other day and now it is pegged at 1.62, maybe it would reach @1.70 on fight day.

647  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Boxing Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: July 11, 2023, 10:50:15 AM
Also, Eimantas Stanionis have been ordered by the WBA to be the mandatory challenger to the winner of Errol Spence Jr. vs Terence Crawford.

But isn't it there is a rematch clause between Errol Spence Jr. vs Terence Crawford? So I doubt that the mandatory fight can happen. Maybe the best thing is to elevate Eimantas Stanionis to full champion.

If the result of the Spence vs Crawford fight is not a convincing win of either fighter, i think a rematch is inevitable or there might be a rematch clause as this is a mega-fight. That mandatory order of WBA is just a way for them to earn some bucks as they will have to earn as a sanction fee but Spence vs Crawford 2 is a sellable fight even without that WBA belt so it's better to them to have a championship fight between Stanionis vs whoever or elevate the former to full champion.
648  Local / Pilipinas / Re: SEC maghihigpit? anu ang magiging kapalaran ng crypto sa Pilipinas on: July 11, 2023, 07:27:38 AM
Ang tagal na nilang sinasabi na ire-regualate na nila tong cryptocurrency sa ating bansa pero hanggang nagyon ay hirap pa rin silang ipapatupad ito. Hindi ko alam ang dahilan pero sadyang napakabagal talaga ng gobyerno natin sa pagpatupad ng mga batas pagdating sa ganitong usapin.

Speaking of SEC na naghihigpit sa cryptocurrency, may alam kaya sila dito sa bago kompanya daw na humahataw ngayon sa Pilipinas.

Anong tingin nyo dito sa "Livegood" mga kabayan, legit ba to or another scam na naman. May mga kapitbahay kasi akong nakita na nag-orientation tungkol sa company na to, networking ata to kung hindi ako nagkakamali. Gusto ko lang malaman sa inyong mga behasa sa ganitong larangan kung dapat ba tayong mag-invest or umiwas rito.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIU-ReCdRRg&ab_channel=FernanSantiago

Sorry OP at naisingit ko tong topic na to sa thread mo.
649  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2022–23 PBA Commissioner's Cup on: July 11, 2023, 07:04:38 AM
On that note, if the coach is prioritizing those players who have already secured their spot, we might not see Kai getting good minutes. Maybe he will be playing to give some rest to those priority players, enough to say that he is able to play during the summer league, but the hope of being noticed might be another question. As a fan, I want him to show his talent and develop, but if there's nothing to show up, or I mean there's not enough playing time to showcase that talent, then we might not expect anything great to happen to Kai.

Maybe it's still not for him, or we never know what will happen. We're still hoping and looking for the best outcome for Kai.

I think you may be right there mate, Kai Sotto might not get good playing minutes in the summer league because of that reason. On its second game, the Magic still hasn't fielded Kai Sotto, even a single minute so we might as well not hope that Kai Sotto will make it into the NBA, sad to say that but that would be the truth.

NLEX vs Meralco Bolts
TNT Katropa vs Rain Or Shine


^^ Games for tomorrow, odds not out yet but the first game looks pretty even I think and either team could win the game so will bet for the underdog on that game but on the second game, ROS will be the favorite and I'll go for them.
650  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Discussion - Being an Active Poster in the Gambling Board on: July 10, 2023, 10:44:40 AM
  • Has being an active participant in the gambling section helped you develop more effective strategies for winning bets?

Yup, I'm into sports betting, specifically in basketball and boxing, from this forum I was able to expand my knowledge of the players by reading the posts of other users and imitating some of the users' betting strategies.

  • Have you noticed an overall improvement in your gambling experiences?

Yes, since I'm using this forum, I not only learned Bitcoin but also how to improve my betting skills, though gambling is not to be used as a platform to generate income but at least on my part, I'm not always on the losing end since I have developed the good qualities of a gambler which is to be patient and disciplined.
651  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Nonito Donaire vs Alejandro Santiago for WBC bantamweight title on: July 10, 2023, 07:13:20 AM
Experience wise, Donaire still has it, and even if Santiago is young, I think Donaire might be able to take his punch and then throw some of his left hooks though. And as boxers ages, obviously comes experienced. So Donaire has a big boxing IQ because of his years in the pro ranks and it could really help him in this fight specially if this becomes to close and might end up in the judges scorecard.

So a ML bet could also be good bet instead of waiting for more attractive odds to be listed. Just a few more days if I'm not mistaken right?

Gonna be another good weekends for boxing fans around the world.

ML odds of @1.62 boosted is already attractive, especially to those bettors who will allocate a substantial amount to bet for Donaire and that would be my choice if no other options that bookies will offer come weekend.

Experience and size would be Donaire's advantage for this coming fight and it will be obvious that Santiago will always be on the watch for that left hook counter after he throws some punch as this could be the end of the night for him. I reckon that this will end via KO if Donaire will win because if Donaire couldn't hit Santiago early, this might swing to the latter's advantage as the fight goes to the distance.
652  Local / Pamilihan / Re: NBA discussion, betting and etc. on: July 10, 2023, 06:59:00 AM
Alanghiya, hindi pinaglaro ang bata natin ng Orlando Magic ah. Daming nagalit na mga pinoy na inantay tong pagkakataon at ginamit lang daw is Kai para sa clout at para marami ang manuod ng laro.

Sayang kahit konting minuto man lang na maipakita ni Kai ang talent nya. Dahil hype na hype ngayon ang matatangkad na player na katulad ni Wemby at ang magbabalik na si Chet Holmgren ng OKC.

Yong coach ng Magic ay sinabihan umano si Kai Sotto na ibabangko siya at yong iba dahil priority daw nila yong mga rookies na nakapirma na ng kontrata para sa Magic, gusto lang nilang tingnan kung hindi ba sila nagkakamali sa kanilang desisyon sa pagkuha ng mga rookies na yon. Siguro sa mga susunod na laro ng Magic ay makakuha rin ng minutes tong si Kai Sotto at sana magpapakita gilas siya sa na oras na yon.

Meanwhile, ang ganda naman ng pinakita ni Wemby kanina, double-double with 27 points, 12 rebounds and 3 blocks, mukhang ito yong makakakuha ng quadruple-double para sa Spurs kung hindi lang ma-injured.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6fdQ_Pluh0&ab_channel=NBA
653  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2022–23 PBA Commissioner's Cup on: July 10, 2023, 05:32:49 AM
Back to the PBA,

Batang Pier ML @2.16 vs Dyip
Magnolia -12.5 @1.86 vs SMB Beermen

^^ That's my bet, i'm backing Magnolia for now as i think that they showed no mercy on their past opponents so against their sister team, i don't that their will be "sagip kapamilya" here as this is just a show of force, no bearing at all.

I like how confident you are with that Magnolia -12.5 bet, because a typical gambler would go for SMB + handicap or even moneyline.
bisdak40  already had one win as NP beat DYIP and now Magnolia is already leading a double digit in the 2nd quarter, so most likely he will end up with 2/2 win. Good luck @bisdak40, I would say you had great picks tonight, I'm also confident that Magnolia will continue their hot streak dominating their opponents.

And cover they did, Magnolia is a team on a mission in this tournament, i could say. Though SMB Beermen beat TNT in their previous game but i could say that they are no match for the current lineup of Magnolia in this PBA-on-tour and also I'm tired on losing by betting against Magnolia because they covered the spread every time, so if you can't beat them might as well backed them.

For Kai's situation, they are saying that Magic's coach was prioritizing rookies and those who have contracts with them. They have also informed Kai of the no-playing minutes before the game so nothing to worry about, he will got his minutes on the succeeding games.
654  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Stephen Fulton vs. Naoya Inoue | WBC & WBO 122 lbs bout | July 25 on: July 09, 2023, 09:34:19 AM
we cant really make out some conclusions yet just because Inoue had able to dominate that previous division that he's into but it true that there might really be that kind of possibility on which he might

be able to make this fight be simple just like on other fights that he had. If Inoue that able to retain that speed and solid punches or good counters then i wouldnt be also having no doubt that he could really be able to beat up Fulton but since we are talking the champion for this weight division then this wont really be a walk in the park for Inoue.

Fulton wont be called a champion for nothing which i would definitely say that it would really be that giving a good damn fight for Inoue. He would really be needing
some ways on landing up a solid body blow just like on his previous fights on which it did result into TKO,but lets see.

I do agree that this is not a walk in the park for Inoue but judging from their last fights, we can say that the Japanese Monster has the edge plus the fact that Fulton is inactive for more than a year which makes things worse for him or we say that makes the American the underdog which also makes this fight exciting and interesting as this will be Inoue's first fight in the 122lbs division, an acid test for him if he brings his power to this division which is uncertain but the bookies still believe in him.

It's just interesting to note that both camps have been so silent going into this fight, with no thrash-talking whatsoever that will add hype for this fight.
655  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2022–23 PBA Commissioner's Cup on: July 09, 2023, 07:54:33 AM
This is quite off but still could be said related to PBA, while Kai is going to participate in the NBA summer league. There's also Myles Powell of the Bay Area Dragons who's playing in the Houston Rockets.
(https://rocketswire.usatoday.com/2023/07/03/rockets-announce-full-roster-for-nbas-2023-summer-league/)
We can accommodate that kind of discussion here as it's still related to Philippine basketball. Kai Sotto is finally close to becoming an NBA player. With his height, that's already an advantage, so he has to impress the fans, the team, and everyone who can help him secure a contract. I believe the game is tomorrow early; I may not be able to watch it, but I'll be looking for a replay.
Sad to see that while looking for some stream with the Orlando Magic and Detroits NBA summer league, I have been seeing a lot of comments about Kai, "bangko". That's disappointing as he's not given playing time. Looking at NBA's website for the stats of the players, it's said this on his name together with other players.

DNP - Coach's Decision

"Bangko" indeed. Sad to note but I think the coach of the Magic has not seen the right time to let Kai play this is only one game, maybe in the next game they can give Kai some minutes but for us hoping that he will be signed by the Magic should taper our expectation as that possibility is very slim.

Back to the PBA,

Batang Pier ML @2.16 vs Dyip
Magnolia -12.5 @1.86 vs SMB Beermen

^^ That's my bet, i'm backing Magnolia for now as i think that they showed no mercy on their past opponents so against their sister team, i don't that their will be "sagip kapamilya" here as this is just a show of force, no bearing at all.
656  Local / Pamilihan / Re: NBA discussion, betting and etc. on: July 08, 2023, 10:34:37 PM
Marami siguro sa atin ang hindi satisfied sa debut ni Victor Wembanyana.
Pero para sa akin nandoon naman yung lakas niya, siguro nadala lang siya sa pagtatapat nila ng number 2 pick na si Brandon Miller. Yung 4-point play sa huli ang pasabog ni Wemby, isa itong warning sa mga iiwanan siya sa labas dahil siguradong i-uupgrade pa nila yang shooting skills niya.
Marami pang kulang sa kanya, sa totoo lang. Pero isa syang rookie kaya hindi dapat mag-expect ng sobra sa kanya. "I'm trying to learn." ika niya nung post game interview. Huwag niyang pwersahin dahil siguradong makakamit niya rin ang itaas. Masyado pa siyang bata upang magmadali sa karera niya, madami pa siyang kakaining bigas. Cheesy Ay, experience pala na paraan para matuto pa.
Sa ngayon okay na yan, summer league lang naman. Although marami nga kasi ang na-hype at na sold out pa ang court sa Las Vegas.

Expected na siguro yan kabayan pero isang laro pa lang naman to, baka sa susunod na mga laro ay makikita na natin or sa mga nag-expect sa kanya na mag-explode ang tunay nyang laro. Pansin ko lang ay medyo nagpasikat pa yong number 2 pick na si Brandon Miller pero di naman nagpapahuli si Wenby pagdating sa depensa na may 5 block ata kung hindi ako nagkakamali, malaking bagay na yon.

Halftime na ng laro ng Magic vs Pistons at ang score ay 43 all. Nakakalungkot lang ay hindi pa pinaglaro ng coach si Kai Sotto, baka sa second half ay bibigyan to ng playing minutes.
657  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2022–23 PBA Commissioner's Cup on: July 08, 2023, 10:14:38 PM
Hoping that Kai sotto will became one of those NBA players not just NBA player but a Star player because as we all know that Kai sotto has have an enough hight to go to the center and the chances of Kai sotto to the NBA was too high since San Antonio Spurs have the new draft player which the hight of 7 foot and 5 which is pretty tall enough to became a center. But the only one can guard him is kai sotto.

Though they have almost the same height, I doubt that Kai Sotto will be able to guard Wemby as the latter is too quick for him (just my opinion).

I disagree with you that Kai Sotto's chance of becoming an NBA player is too high as he was not even drafted and he has not shown anything yet in the summer league in the NBA which warrants the attention of the Magic's front office. Height is not the only reason that you can be an NBA player but you must also have the skills but as a Filipino, I still hope that Kai will make it to the NBA but let us not expect too high as this will be a rough road for him.
658  Local / Others (Pilipinas) / Re: Salamat sa Bitcointalk forum on: July 07, 2023, 10:46:51 PM
Yun lang naman, at sobrang appreciate ko talaga ang platform na ito, kaya kung meron kayong gustong idagdag sa ikalalago pa lalo ng kaalaman natin ay makipagtalakayan kayo dito sa paksang ginawa ko, salamat ng marami.

At makakatanggap pa tayo ng sahod pag nakapasok tayo sa isang signature campaign haha.

Laking tulong talaga ng forum na ito para sa atin na gustong matuto sausaping bitcoin at altcoins dahil tingin ko sa future ay baka bitcoin na talaga ang maghahari so malaking tulong na sa atin yong kaalaman na nakuha natin sa forum na ito.

Pansin ko lang kabayan, medyo dumistansya ka na sa gambling which is a good thing since nakakabuti ito kung hindi masyong maganda yong karanasan mo dito.
659  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Boxing: Anthony Joshua vs Dillian Whyte II on: July 07, 2023, 10:26:43 PM
Very affordable for a PPV price. Though the betting odds are not yet out, I'm expecting that Anthony Joshu would be the heavy favorite since he is the younger boxer and had accomplish more compared to Dillian Whyte who are supposed to retire according to one of our posters here.

Yup, Anthony Joshua would still be the favorite here, the only thing that we have to discuss here is whether Whyte would survive the full twelve rounds as he was KOed by Joshua on their first meeting.

The thing here is that Joshua beat Whyte when the former was not beaten yet, I mean his confidence was still very high at that time but for me, at the present moment, it seems that Joshua's confidence is fading after that loss to Ruiz, that makes this fight interesting. Hearn wants to test Joshua before giving him a fight with Wilder.



660  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2022–23 PBA Commissioner's Cup on: July 07, 2023, 10:11:53 PM
TNT vs Beermen tonight at 7:30 PM.

There's no spread for this game yet but the moneyline odds for TNT is x20. Looks attractive but knowing their struggle, I think betting on that is just a waste of money. Maybe the spread is around 20+, so I guess I would just stay away from this game, this is very hard to predict.

This game is likely to result in another blowout loss, as SMB is currently leading by 18 points. If the spread was set at -20, it is highly probable that SMB would still be able to cover that spread. So far, TNT has been performing poorly in the PBA on tour exhibition games, consistently finding themselves at a disadvantage in mismatched games.

It was TNT +11.5 @1.93, i managed to take a quick look on the local bookies but doesn't have the time to bet as i was so very busy yesterday that i forgot that i wasn't able to bet on the PBA.

TNT doesn't have any plan to win at least one game in this tournament so we should be very careful if we want to bet on them.

On the first between Converge and Phoenix, the pre-game ML odds was 3.75 for Converge, so juicy but again wasn't able to bet.

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