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661  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2020-08-23]"Not your keys; not your coins".....? on: August 27, 2020, 07:25:05 PM
Its just hard to believe on that Coinbase didnt make any announcement or notification about that.If they do then theres no point to argue and forcing to claim those BTG.
Actually they did on twitter, 3 days before the fork , also mentioned to this article and probably to their user's email as well or even in-app notification too.

1. No one should keep coins on an exchange unless one is intending to sell them soon.
2. IIRC I got an email and notice from Coinbase about it prior to that even though I have nothing in the account there.  

People who don't read or pay attention then cry because they didn't take responsibility to read or pay attention.  

Anyone paying attention over the last decade+ should know that if you don't have the keys, all you have is an IOU.
662  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2020-08-20] Restaurant Converts Entire Cash Reserve to BTC following Cov19 on: August 27, 2020, 07:22:54 PM
1. How much?  Was it $1000 or $100 or $100,000?  Kind of relevant whether it was something they could earn in a day or a week or a year.
2. "Bitcoin as it offers a much better alternative to saving cash. " - over the long term yes, most likely, but how long until they need it?
3. Who needs a stable coin unless one is trading?  It is like those centralized cryptos that central banks (and others) are creating.  What the !@#$ is the point?  Who needs centralized crypto, just use a database.
663  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2020-08-11] MicroStrategy Adopts Bitcoin as Primary Treasury Reserve Asset on: August 14, 2020, 02:49:14 PM
The problem with online gambling pre Tor etc, was the centralized domain name system where domain names could be seized and the owners arrested if used improperly. That is the reason that casino.com and gamble.com were sold in 1997 and to whom they were sold.

this

the story of the internet was always a story of the freedom of expression and the freedom to innovate mutually reinforcing one another (and I may venture to make a similarly bold prediction as this Saylor character), and always will be


Agreed.  Freedom in all walks of life is critical.  The internet was built on it, although it was also built on trust which ended up being problematic for some things - e.g. email spoofing, no initial S on http etc.  In the 1990s (even the late ones) the regulation that smothered projects was oppressive.  It still is.  And the monopolistic power to enforce groupthink from private companies is equally as bad.

(As an aside, unfortunately I think that with the so-called web 3.0 things like Solid, the lack of design level encryption is going to stifle the growth because people will be reluctant to store things on pods in an unencrypted form (not to mention the need for protocol level ability to migrate to a new pod).  )
664  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2020-08-11] MicroStrategy Adopts Bitcoin as Primary Treasury Reserve Asset on: August 14, 2020, 12:00:17 PM
Decrypt has found the death of bitcoin prediction tweet from Microsystem CEO Michael Saylor which might have been deleted after the release of this article.

It appears that we should also be convinced that we are witnessing the beginning of another bull market hehehe.



He’s not alone in the 180-degree-turn. This year, Mathew McDermott, the head of digital assets at US bank Goldman Sachs, said the bank is entertaining client requests for cryptocurrency transactions after a “resurgence of interest.” This is the same bank that flat out dismissed Bitcoin as an asset class in May 2020 during an investor call.

Source https://decrypt.co/38604/microstrategy-ceo-predicted-the-death-of-bitcoin-years-ago

Re his tweet:
The problem with online gambling pre Tor etc, was the centralized domain name system where domain names could be seized and the owners arrested if used improperly. That is the reason that casino.com and gamble.com were sold in 1997 and to whom they were sold. Dealing with the Clinton administration and the potential illegality of doing anything with them while based in the US or even outside it, was a huge risk that torpedoed the business plans.

Since the "progressives" have tried to exert more control over everything over more than the last century, it inhibits progress. 





665  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2020-08-10] Capital Flight Out of Asia Is Taking Bitcoin Express: Max Keiser on: August 10, 2020, 05:49:38 PM
There is definitely no evidence of this. However, smart people all over the world are using bitcoin to protect their assets, both for capital flight and asset protection.  The authoritarian collectivists the world over don’t like people having the freedom to control their own lives, let alone the freedom to use their assets as they wish.

I know a guy who lived in China for more than a decade and he just left about 10 days ago. He had a few thousand dollars with him and was very concerned they’d be confiscated.  Bitcoin helps with that issue.  Even more so if you have 10s or 100s of thousands of dollars/euros to protect, let alone millions.

Smart people in the US should own bitcoin for similar reasons if Biden wins and keeps channeling Bernie and his ilk. His philosophy is anti liberty, and downright evil. People need to protect themselves.  The time to buy insurance is to do so before the house is on Fire.

Has this impacted the price?  Who knows. It is just speculation that it has, of course it depends on the volume of people using it to do so. All the various uses and factors are cumulative.
666  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2020-07-23] Expert Insights on the Asian Crypto Market amidst pandemic on: August 09, 2020, 06:47:48 PM
The population of the Asian region has always shown great interest in cryptocurrency. After the official launch of the Chinese digitalized yuan, and even more so the Asian regional stablecoin, interest in the decentralized cryptocurrency should grow significantly.
Now, four major banks in China have gradually begun introducing their digitized yuan and we will eagerly await the first feedback on the usability of this stablecoin. This experience can prove invaluable to other states.


The people of Asia, particularly China, would do well to embrace bitcoin.  These so-called stable coins have few of the benefits of a decentralized system like bitcoin and most of the issues with a fiat currency like the yuan.  A digitized yuan adds nothing of benefit for the people of China, but certainly benefits the Chinese authoritarians.  Anyone who puts their trust in authoritarians of any stripe - socialist, communists, fascist, totalitarian etc - is naive or just plain uninformed.
667  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2020-06-04] Bloomberg: “Bitcoin Toward $20,000 in 2020" on: August 06, 2020, 07:06:24 PM
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Given the halving of new supply and increased demand, $20k is definitely within reach for 2020.  Perhaps higher.   During the previous halvings, it wasn't instant, but took months to a year.  No complaints here for sure.


I may be wrong, but in my opinion newly mined BTC is not "supply", in the market sense of the word. "Supply" is the amount people are willing to sell. It can exceed the amount of newly mined Bitcoin many times, or, theoretically, it can be less than that, if miners prefer to hold instead of cashing out right away.  Each time the halving may become less significant if the price stays in the same ballpark, but so far it hasn't. 

In other words, even if halving does affects the "supply", it does so to a very limited extent.

That is why I specifically said "new supply" - which you highlighted.  :-)  When you decrease the new supply on the market you certainly decrease the amount that miners are able to sell, whether or not they do so immediately or not.  That decreases the overall "supply" that is available to be sold on the market.  

It is critical to note that prices are set at the margin so a small decrease in overall supply due to a decrease in new supply, can have an outsized impact on price.  Particularly if demand stays constant or increases.  Similarly a small increase in demand can have an outsized impact on price when supply is constant or decreasing.  Now with bitcoin, everyone knows that the eventual total number of bitcoins is fixed (barring any overflow bugs), new supply is decreasing, the only question is at what price, if any, person X is willing to sell.

Obviously it is all complex, but miners do often have to sell at least some supply to cover costs.  Going to 900/day from 1800/day becomes significant over time just to pay the bills and they have 900 fewer per day to sell to cover costs -- at current prices 900/per day is around US$10-$11 million per day, or around US$4 billion per year in fewer newly mined coins available.   With demand from GBTC reportedly soaking up a large percentage of newly minted/mined coins back in the spring, cutting that in half seems bound to impact price.  Back in 2012, a decrease from 7200 to 3600/day didn't cost that much if the price was US$5-10, maybe $30000-$40000 per day. 

Nothing is guaranteed, but the past 2 halvings have had a large impact on price.  Increased or constant demand and less "new supply" seem to be a recipe for a higher fiat price. (Speaking of fiat, printing an extra US$5-10 trillion for coronavirus aid should make people aware of the dangers of fiat inflating purchasing power away).

:-)








668  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2020-08-01] How the FBI tracked down the Twitter hackers on: August 03, 2020, 03:30:23 PM
I am worried that newbies hackers managed to do all of this, leaving tons of mistakes that leads to them.
True. When a careless 17 year old manages to break in to a huge tech company like Twitter, it goes to show just how lax their security practices are. We often see hacks and breaches of crypto companies being made a big deal of on this forum - Ledger's data breach, Binance's data breach, various exchanges and web wallets being hacked for funds, lists of email addresses from ICOs and airdrops being sold, and so on. What a lot of people forget is that such data breaches are commonplace throughout the entire internet, and that even massive tech companies often have terrible security. Google stored passwords in plain text for 14 years. 50 million Facebook accounts were compromised in 2018. Just today an unpatchable exploit to Apple's Secure Enclave has been revealed, meaning an attacker can potentially decrypt and steal all your information and data.

This is why it is so important that people take their privacy and security seriously.

Its all just to monetize their access to twitter, they could have just got away with it if they just continue to sell accounts than aiming for this giveaway scam thru those high profile accounts.
It seems Twitter only picked up on it after they flooded many famous accounts with their bitcoin scam. Given that, it could have been much worse. They could have read or sent private messages to and from world leaders, or tweeted as various CEOs. Remember how much TSLA stock fell when Musk tweeted he thought it was overpriced?

This is a nice point, it goes to show why distributed services like bitcoin (twister etc) should be preferred.  Instead of someone being able to "hack into Bitcoin Inc" they would need to hack into each individual's account.  Without a centralized point like Twitter, this becomes much harder - presuming no one finds P=NP and/or breaks PKE.

Everything should be handled using on-device encryption and not sent off whatever device is being used without being encrypted. 

One thing that concerns me about things like Solid is that they may be making the same error with regard to http and https (and others) again.  I haven't checked in about 6-9 months, but the pods are not encrypted on the device.



669  Economy / Economics / Re: My bank account's got robbed by European Commission. Over 700k is lost. on: August 01, 2020, 10:24:05 AM
That´s a thread from 2013 but a few things need to be cleared and updated.

The Laiki bank was in governmental ownership since 2012 and the 100K guarantee was clear from the start. Yes, that they really enforce that option is crap but it was stated in the fine print.
Going to cyprus is by defintion a questionable move. The CySec is infamous for giving out licenses to the even most shabby fintech companies, most notoriously to the Get-rich-quick Binary Options brokers.
The EU has advantages if you know how to use them, like the passporting rule.

Anyway, in conclusion the story sounds to me of a mix of being careless, being greedy for tax reduction, and bad luck of being at the wrong place at the wrong time.


There is a difference between funds up to 100K being guaranteed and between funds being taken above a certain limit to pay a country's debts.  A huge one - it is the difference between a bank making bad decisions and politicians doing so.  And if I recall from the thread (it has been quite a while since I read it), he stated later they had the account for working capital - e.g. paying salaries for their employees etc.  Nothing shady, just money used for operations.

And the guy you replied to looks to be a link spammer anyway given the look of his 4 posts.

in addition OP did not "go to cyprus" - he lived there.



Good point. He did live there...I think in the thread he said he moved to somewhere in the Caribbean after this.  I'd be interested in hearing an update.
670  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: 900,000 illegal bitcoins. on: July 31, 2020, 02:51:39 PM
This is like saying "there are 900,000 trillion trillion trillion oxygen molecules associated with illegal activity because someone breathed them in while committing a crime, all of these molecules will somehow be breathed in by someone else."

Who decides what is illegal and where?
Who decides if someone has already used the "illegal" bitcoins and an innocent party owns them?

Think about all the gold (or silver) in the world.  At some point it is virtually guaranteed that it was either stolen, someone was killed for it, some evil dictator/totalitarian ruler/emperor/king/queen etc,  forced people to surrender it to him/her (spoils of war, taxes etc) or it was mined by slave labor.  Does that mean that all gold is tainted?  No, it means that evil and immoral people are in the world and they did something bad with some object.  

It doesn't mean that the object is good or bad, it means that the use to which is was put was bad.  Forks don't make people fat, guns don't kill people, actions by people using those implements do so.

This whole "analysis" is just idiotic.
671  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2020-06-04] Bloomberg: “Bitcoin Toward $20,000 in 2020" on: July 30, 2020, 07:08:07 PM
July 7th, I had to come and see that thread, current price  $9250.

there are 5 months to go before the year ends and the pandemic seems to be getting worse in some rich countries the situation is being a great disaster and unemployment is increasing due to this pandemic. I also believe that people will not have much money to make investments, maybe even the focus now is to buy food and stay at home, as this whole situation is so extreme as these blomberg guys can be optimistic to the point of thinking that we would see  $20,000 this year? where does it come from so much money to increase the price? I highly doubt that this year the price will exceed 13000 $ unless they say that this year there will be a vaccine for this virus to vaccinate people en masse and then the markets will recover very quickly which is not possible in 5 months left for the year finish

It wouldn't surprise me if it hit between $20,000 and $40,000 within the next 12 months (e.g. June 2021) given increasing demand, the halving, and increasing use cases.   It wouldn't surprise me either if it was double that.

I think that until June of the next year the price will be  $17000 maximum, I am not seeing more than $20,000
It is rightly noted here that we still have a big problem with the spread of coronavirus and therefore the economies of states continue to fall, and their economic performance deteriorates. However, if at the initial stage of the spread of coronavirus, the cryptocurrency market fell significantly in price, now the consequences of fighting it can push the cryptocurrency market to growth.
 If, due to the coronavirus, a tough global economic crisis will soon begin, then people will save their usual currency from inflation and invest in cryptocurrency. Therefore, bitcoin and other potential cryptocurrencies for development will skyrocket in value. Then the predictions about the bitcoin price of $ 20,000 by the end of this year will be quite real.

today Is the 26th of July and current price: $9700 ... Since October last year, the price has failed to break the $10500 and whenever it tries to break the $ 10500 the price drops a lot. That's why I'm only going to be optimistic if the bitcoin price breaks $10,500 and remains above $ 13,000 if it is to reach $ 20,000 this year. If the price does not break the $13,000, I not dream of $20,000 this year

In last couple of days then things have suddenly changed, and bitcoin has moved quite fast from 10k level to 11200$ at present price. This has been a quick movement and only thing in coming time will know if it can survive above 11k levels or it is just a short rally where some of them might make quick bucks with this rally. But a good time for traders since this volatility is what makes them happy and for investors as well as some of them can book some profits too.



Given the halving of new supply and increased demand, $20k is definitely within reach for 2020.  Perhaps higher.   During the previous halvings, it wasn't instant, but took months to a year.  No complaints here for sure.
672  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is bitcoins dominance coming to an end? on: July 22, 2020, 07:22:15 PM
A lot of speculations coming around this forum as well as in many other sites regarding the dominance if BTC is going to end, Are the alts going to take over???

Where as I went through few links where it states like big whales are targeting altcoins over BTC. Pretty cool 😎 but I still believe in this valuable asset because remember what happened in 2017 it rallied more than 1000%. So guys don't panic and take serious decisions have patience till it recovers BTC is still dominating and hopefully it will in upcoming. Link just for reference.

https://dailyhodl.com/2020/07/21/bitcoins-status-as-crypto-king-is-coming-to-an-end-predicts-blockchairs-nikita-zhavoronkov-heres-why/amp/

No.  Do you want decentralization by the developers? Do you want decentralization by nodes?  Do you want the highest security of the network via the most hash power?  Do you want the ecosystem?   None of the alts have all that, I don't think any of them have avoided the single point of failure of having a single developer who is pretty much in charge.

673  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2020-07-01] Researcher Says Bitcoin’s Elliptic Curve Could Have a Backdoor on: July 02, 2020, 01:37:06 PM
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A Bitcoin public key is created by applying elliptic-curve cryptography to the private key. One can easily create a public key from the private key, but it is impossible to go in the reverse direction. Unless, of course, Bitcoin?s elliptic curve is compromised. Many crypto experts have noticed that Bitcoin?s choice of secp256k1 elliptic curve was unusual for its time, as it was not yet well researched.

More: https://cointelegraph.com/news/this-researcher-says-bitcoins-elliptic-curve-could-have-a-secret-backdoor

It is not quite as bad, but you often see similar things in medical research.  The people doing it don't understand the math and then screw up the analysis.  

This, though, is much worse since it is like saying "Researcher says true could be false."  It is absolute nonsense, but many of these "publications" seem to have the goal solely of creating clickbait content.

The worst thing is the author holds himself out as an expert and is teaching classes about "blockchain":
"Michael lives in New York. He has been working in the blockchain space since 2015, founding, advising, speaking and writing. He currently teaches a blockchain course that he designed for MBA and master’s students at Pace University, and he mentors startups at the Columbia University-IBM Blockchain Accelerator."

His students need at least a partial refund.
674  Economy / Economics / Re: My bank account's got robbed by European Commission. Over 700k is lost. on: July 01, 2020, 10:17:33 AM
That´s a thread from 2013 but a few things need to be cleared and updated.

The Laiki bank was in governmental ownership since 2012 and the 100K guarantee was clear from the start. Yes, that they really enforce that option is crap but it was stated in the fine print.
Going to cyprus is by defintion a questionable move. The CySec is infamous for giving out licenses to the even most shabby fintech companies, most notoriously to the Get-rich-quick Binary Options brokers.
The EU has advantages if you know how to use them, like the passporting rule.

Anyway, in conclusion the story sounds to me of a mix of being careless, being greedy for tax reduction, and bad luck of being at the wrong place at the wrong time.


There is a difference between funds up to 100K being guaranteed and between funds being taken above a certain limit to pay a country's debts.  A huge one - it is the difference between a bank making bad decisions and politicians doing so.  And if I recall from the thread (it has been quite a while since I read it), he stated later they had the account for working capital - e.g. paying salaries for their employees etc.  Nothing shady, just money used for operations.

And the guy you replied to looks to be a link spammer anyway given the look of his 4 posts.
675  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2020-06-25] Jim Rogers Warns Governments Will Have To ‘Eliminate' Bitcoin on: June 29, 2020, 07:15:00 PM
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Perhaps I misread it, but I didn't see him advocating elimination bitcoin, merely stating he thinks some governments will (attempt) to do that. Merely because you see something as a potential event, doesn't mean you necessarily agree with it.

Let's not forget that wealthy investors with a public persona are very likely using their influential status to try to move market sentiment when they make public statements (in interviews such as in the OP), and for any number of reasons. Maybe Rogers wants to help support the fiat currency market, in which he is no doubt at least somewhat invested. Maybe he simply wants in to the Bitcoin market at a good price.

All true. They will definitely talk their book.  Look at McAfee as an example who admitted it. 
676  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2020-06-25] Jim Rogers Warns Governments Will Have To ‘Eliminate' Bitcoin on: June 29, 2020, 07:09:28 PM
I think he's confused between government wants to "eliminate" Bitcoin and government will "eliminate" Bitcoin. But i'm sure people know government wants to eliminate something they don't like (due to various reasons) already, so this kind of news isn't really meaningful.

I reckon someone should irritate Jim Rogers on social media and show him Monero. Ask him how the government might stop this hehehe.

"It's easy, all government needs to do is turn off internet connection"

I reckon the politicians behind the government would have done anything or eliminate what they wanted if they knew how it can be done within the law.

These guys want money and power and are willing to do practically anything to get it.

This group wants (and has currently) power over the money supply via the Fed in the US and similar institutions around the world.  They can surreptitiously steal a few percent of everyone's wealth every year forever and most people don't notice the hidden tax of inflation.  When you are talking about trillions in assets, that adds up quite quickly.  Not to mention, they have the power to create money at will and lend it to favored groups, politicians etc.  Anyone that can be bought and then control a huge government.

This is why bitcoin is critical, it prevents the power-hungry politicians from controlling people and stealing from them.

Many politicians, particularly the ones who are in it for money and power over other people, will do anything within the law or without the law to defeat the people who want liberty.  Look at how far some of the politicians went to defeat Trump in 2016 and then again to delegitimize him after he won.  They were willing to break the law to "unmask" people, attempt to entrap people, lie to the people in public (e.g. Clapper and Brennan - based on the congressional testimony which was opposite what they were saying on CNN/MSNBC etc).  

677  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2020-06-25] Jim Rogers Warns Governments Will Have To ‘Eliminate' Bitcoin on: June 28, 2020, 11:00:09 AM
Perhaps I misread it, but I didn't see him advocating elimination bitcoin, merely stating he thinks some governments will (attempt) to do that. Merely because you see something as a potential event, doesn't mean you necessarily agree with it.    Eg, suppose you saw that because the US Congress legislated that mortgage borrowers could borrow money with a lower credit score there would be a financial crisis.  That wouldn't imply you thought interference was a good thing.

Maybe there was more to the interview showing whether he thought that was a positive or negative.
678  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2020-06-23] Bitcoin name and logo patented in Spain on: June 23, 2020, 07:16:42 PM
The title is wrong - it was trademarked, not patented.

At least in the US, you have to specify the area where the trademark applies.  E.g. I could trademark "Apple lawn care" without impacting Apple Inc's trademark for electronics.  I presume it is similar in Spain.
679  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2020-06-23] PayPal Rumors Push Bitcoin Higher as On-Chain Transactions Surge on: June 23, 2020, 07:13:30 PM
Morons..
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The so-called surge is happening weekly, it's the difference between Sundays and Mondays, this is how it looks for 30 days, notice that 31May, 7th, 14th and 21st of June are all Sundays:

...


lol.  Those pics are worth 1000 words. 

PayPal getting involved in BTC at this point seems pretty unlikely given the KYC requirements.  While they no doubt do know their customers, the difference between PayPal and, say, Coinbase in the KYC requirements seems huge.  (I haven't had to register for either in quite some time so perhaps that has changed).
680  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin: The dream of Cypherpunks, libertarians and crypto-anarchists on: June 17, 2020, 10:04:53 PM
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I would argue that, for the main part, we are actually living under facism masquerading as social democracy.

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More 'cypherpunks' ...

rop, frank: Ten years after ‚We Lost The War‘
- https://youtu.be/P4k7RKx4OQM

My only quibble with that quotation is the no one should want to live under either.  Fascism, socialism, communism, "social democracy", authoritarianism, collectivism etc are all very similar, just substituting who is doing the controlling.  A limited, constitutional republic (with enumerated powers, like in theory the US is supposed to have) protects people's freedoms and rights from tyranny of the majority.
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