I barely doubt that volatility of the coins will ever end in the crypto market. I have myself seen the whole coins go up and down like 20-30% in the whole 48 hours man. Could have gotten great profits in the first place but anyway missed the chance to do it so I’m watching the market over again. IF the volatility of the coins end like this then it might happen that we won’t be getting much of the profits from them as we will have to wait for more longer times than the previous scenario.


So remember that the volatile nature is first basis for the coins which can gives us good path to make some fortune and secondly I don’t think volatility will change in the crypto ever because they always have old and new investor playing around forever for them.

I mean come on, really? Obviously it is bitcoin man. Just take a look around you and see who's ahead in the competition. I know bitcoin is very costly and ethreum is cheap so you may wanna hear that ether is good deal and then you will stack up lot of ether in first place. But let me tell you one good thing about this coin, it can make you rich as well because obviously it will grow as the time will pass and it can give you more profit because you can just buy more coins than bitcoins. So surely you can go with it but I started the statement with bitcoin beast you asked which is more profitable so I wanted to tell bitcoin for that reason.


But to be honest its always great to invest into ether as it is showing positive revives now a days and looking at the speed of ICO projects development, I do not think that it will go down at anytime in the future.

To be honest our current local currencies are susceptible of sustaining the next era and all the era’s that are yet to come. The reason is simple, it is being regulated by the government or regulatory authorities and which means it is not going down unless and until they go crazy about the digital currncies. But happening of that has got very less chances. I mean tell me why would they use digital currency which are not able to fulfil the needs of people after being circulated online? May be its because it is not being accepted widely to each and every door step of the business as well as not even being entertained at the biggest merchants who can easily accept it. May be many government do not want the discrepancy to happen with the local currency and the digital market which is global. It will be used as the global asset and more or less an asset same like those of stock exchangers etc. So its idiotic to dream about the bitcoin in so much vast topic. No offence by the way because I dream of bitcoin on such big platform as well.

Well cloud mining is not a game were you will loose or win the bitcoins. It is concept where you invest into the entity with a contract where it gives you some xyz hash rate for some ABC prices and then they tell you that your account is mining for you with that much hash rates. Then they will project the earnings for you with their best ever calculator and will show how you can be millionaires in th year or so.


BUT, give some little more stress on your brain and think about it for one second. An online website? No mining hardware are shown up there and you start believing them because there so called profit calculator tells you how you can win the bitcoin? Well, no I don’t think so it can be true and it is not in fact. Im sure that you will loose all the money before you could even reach your ROI. With all the limiting terms of condition you can never achieve what you are looking for with the bitcoin cloud mining.

We are already mining with solar energy and that is important to get most of the profits. Well, you speaking about it in general so I think the discussion can be stated with “what is the life of bitcoin lover” isn’t it! Well, since the beginning bitcoin has surprised many people in their life, some got richness with money and some of them got the valued part time job. Many of us even ready to leave our full time job so that we can set our lives with bitcoin and make it possible to live on it, which many people are following currently. So in general things are really going great here in the crypto land.


Many of us know cloud mining is not the best choice for now and what we are aiming to is legit ways of earning the bitcoin. Im sure we will earn pretty much from the hardware mining by doing everything by ourselves. Also, we mist be thankful to our beloved bitcointalk forum as it has created great earning opportunities and very detailed forum which shares and value the knowledge that is being spread here. Just love it lot. So yeah bitcoin is the thing which has changed so many things. :-)

With the year end I’m seeing great opportunity for the top listed coins on the coinmarektcap. The very first investment is obviously for the bitcoin, ether and zcash according to me. Im also well versed with the project called social nexus and jibrel who are now in the exchanger phase and are about to explode in the January with the upgraded versions of their products. They will also start the marketing over the rest of the internet leading to mega investment opprutniy and once the sufficient fund are raised by the team then they will surely pump the prices for the coins. Very realistic opportunity. :-)

If many of the users are not selling the tokens then the token price keeps growing with the time because supply goes on decreasing for new investors and if the token is utility coin within the project then team may find insufficient supply circulating and thus leading to increased prices in the want that people will sell for high rates. That how the buy back stuff works and the recent one was made by SCL group who tried to get 800K SCL tokens back from the community by increasing the prices of the tokens.

If you are bitcoin believer and you think you want to earn big money with it then always remember the cash out point is after two to five years of time. Bitcoin is shit investment for small terms and it can never get you profits, a good amount of profit. What you did was your mistake and you should not repeat it agin. If by any small chance the bitcoin falls to below your current sell point then I will advise you to buy more bitcoin Tham last time and don’t think about it for a year. You will see that they have been grown from beans to fruits in no time. This is not philosophy class but a reality platform which is being proved again and agin since the year 2009. Now what to add more into it I don’t understand, its already best for long term.

There is no bitcoin ATM in my area, region, county or even in the whole country. LOlz! I live in asian country which is yet to understand what bitcoin is. The government and politicians are not even aware that how to work up with these things and how to add them with the financial system of country. Getting approval for ATM machine is far far away from now. Its like rest country is leaving the Star Trek life and we are still in the dark age civilisation who know how to grow farm and how to use to stone to light the fire!


Anyway I hope I will see one soon and sometimes I feel bad that I’m earning so much money with bitcoin but there is no way I can easily spend the bitcoin here.

I think the problem lye in the bitcoin legality from country to country and within the different financial institute. Some of them agree to the bitcoin as it is while some of them are not getting it what it is exactly and how to call it currency/asset and much more.


The thing is most of the community is not accepting to bitcoin yet because they see it as rival into their house of card and it could be disaster in the future times. So its better to start trading it in that way and try to create a negativity around it.

Wondering why that thought even came to your mind. But have you considered the fact that whether the bitcoin o remorse specifically the internet will be working in the period of civil war? I mean who will go online and checkout the bitcoin in first place, :-)   They will just like to have the gold instead of the bitcoin because in that period that would be more precious than the bitcoin. There is no point in keeping the digital stuff around as it could turn of with the switch but assets like real estate, gold nd other precious metal and stone can be very dangerous and led to splitting in first place. Thats what happens when a war, revolt or unwanted national movement start occurring, people go crazy and steal things from the national property. Bitcoin will be safe and no one will veer think of it I guess.

Yeah same case with. I never bother anyway because they just make us fear that this happen and that will happen to your wallet. But sine last three to four forks I'm seeing there is no trouble from the forks except in the days of the fork when the transactions are completely stopped over the network. After the digestion is gone we can immediately retrieve the free coins by using the public keys for the wallet form the free coin wallets. Thats so easy I mean and nothing fiddles with us during that very period. :-)

Wow thats lot of big limits for withdrawing your money. They might b adjusting their profits now. Because if the bitcoin rate increase then they have to pay you more money and which is aint fitting into their calculation. I mean if people invested into their project when the price was 5K or something then they have to double the initial investment in todays date and they are in complete loss. They will wait for big investors to come into their door steps and fulfil the account which then they will split to you. :-) This is theory behind that which I read over steemit but I'm sure things could be worse than this.

Its good decision I believe because you bought at 5.5K and sold very much higher. You  have the good money with you now so what you can do is wait for the bitcoin dip. If you buy at this point and think that it will go even higher then it could be big mistake if the outcome is not the good one. I mean at this point there only two things that can happen, the first bitcoin goes up and the second bitcoin crashes a lot. So this is again gambling situation what to do. I would suggest that you should take 50-50% risk here by investing 50% of the amount at this point and watch the bitcoin grow. If the bitcoin falls then cover the loss with another 50% slot and then hope that bitcoin will go higher than both the entry points that you had. This way you can grab 150% of profits in no time. Just make the calculation right and you will see this will work.

It depends how you outperform on the both platforms. Some of them might get good hands on the crypto while some of them on stocks. But according to me there is more profit in the crypto world as compared to the physical world/or stocks for instance. The margin that we get into crypto world is way lot than any other stock exchange. Where there is only few percentage of incriminating orders in the stocks on the hand there could be more than 500% of incriminating orders in the crypto itself. That is why it is more profitable and also it is easy to learn. You will never know how you got big profits and assets form this crypto side.

Hm, somehow I agree to this one and why anyone wouldn't as it is clear idea that was made by the satoshi sir back in 2009 or before that when he started thinking about the mode of transaction.


Its true that each fiat currency/physical currency is bound to the same country only and you can't use it in any other country. Thats the first thing about them, and that puts a limit on to them. In the second scenario if I take bitcoin with me which is over the Internet and flee to another country with different currency form then also I can live there with my bitcoin trade. Even I can convert bitcoin to their local currency and then use it I needed to do that. Its more easier than to go to airport and make exchange of physical cash.

Nothing that genius will be caught in seconds of matter because bitcoin still stays on the internet and he can be tracked down from the addresses that he use. I mean the whole world will watch the transaction being transferred from the hacked server to one wallet or whatever he might be using at the time of hack.


Thats the first thing where he will be getting billions of eye witnesses, (LOLZ) and then where he will put that much of money? Probably he might start transferring the money to fiat and send the money to bank? So there we are we can watch that wallet and track down the person with KYC docs that he provided to the wallet.


IF the wallet is anonymous then we can track down the bank and obviously bank will cease the money as whole world watch the money flow into them. Done your hacker is hacks now!


Not that easy pal!

This isn’t question for the community but for the exchangers itself. The owners should be the one who must be beware of such things. There has been reported attacks on the big exchangers which completely states that they always get the hack attacks. I don’t think fraud is the problem with big companies but it could be case with newly launched exchanger and small one.


Im pretty sure that the exchangers are taking almost tight security of their servers as they are also staking their own money into the exchanger and they will never want billions of dollars just fled away like that. For the individual accounts they are giving added security with 2FA and 3D secured password. Even some exchanger have extra security like OTP authentication. With all this it seems to be impossible to crack the code. So I think we are protected completely.

Yesh surely this is because the hype is reached into whole market that bitcoin is reaching 10K and due to that a chain of event has started where people are continuously infesting money into bitcoin. Also, the BCH matter is closed now and the money which was previously flowed into it is now turning back to bitcoin again. There was almost 10 million USD market cap captured from the bitcoin by BCH and now things back to normal. So many of the good reasons for bitcoin getting pump. Also do not forget Christmas is coming and people want big profits to enjoy so this is like a hope thats pushing the bitcoin market further which is very good thing.

Im not sure about new coins which will be announced henceforth as the ICO are now getting more scam day by day.


I always advise people (just didi no another thread too) to invest into coins which already exits. For them we have chance to be sure the our investment can be grown periodically once they develop their projects according to the roadmap they have. YEs, the roadmap should be fixed into our minds because we must cross verify that they are developing the project according to timeline. This makes sure that investors keep up the pace of investing and once the product is finalised it could lead to global investment and increased value for the utility coin. The study should be kept same throughout the projects and remember time is big player in the crypto currencies. It pays you.