but im getting this now (wat voodoo is dis dave?!):  same old 50% error rating, that no one else seems to get on theirs Well the latest git should read cgminer 4.7.1 Admittedly the version number will only upgrade if you do ./autogen.sh first which you should always do when building from git before running ./configure but given your screenshot, I can't actually be sure that you are actually running the latest git version. Furthermore, the rockminer comes up as LIR on mainline cgminer but you haven't made it clear which particular cgminer this is in your screener... either way I dunno what version you're running for your testing. rockminerinc's git that one would be , not yours, its hella out of date. when im compiling yours from your git follow the instructions in the readme thats the smaller 'buntu screenies. That screenshot is from rockxies version of the software. its one ive pulled down a month ago from the already month old git. i see no updates to that software, so its pointless to re-download it again, unless you can spoof the dates and times for every edit in git. even getting the "Latest" that rockxie linked me, or the mega.co.nz files, all the same old 4.3.3. just to update, even though i get 100+GH/s with rocks cgminer , it 57.71GHs pool side. the 4.7.1 gets 80+Ghs, but I remember was getting 75GH/s poolside |
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I saw them about last month, and I had a couple of concerns with their use as well as cost.
Right now they're only available for a single board thickness - while the most common, this does mean you limit yourself to that option short of making indents or shaving the peg, which you may have to resort to anyway as board thicknesses aren't nearly as uniform as one would hope.
The thermal cycles that the pegs themselves go through also cause expansion and contraction (for a miner this should be a minimum, hopefully it mines 24/7) and they don't have data on how that affects the surrounding board and/or any use of solder at this time.
It's not cheap. Yes, the part itself is about $1.50, now add in the set-up to put these into place. Either you'll have to make the hole big enough that a PTH placement machine could theoretically do it (once it's programmer in, and then deal with the gap, vibration, etc.), or you'll have to make it press-fit and either go to a different machine that you otherwise might not have needed to use at all, or have a human do it.
Heat transfer is undoubtedly better (if using an appropriate size) than through an array of filled vias, and it's certainly worth exploring, but at some point you might as well just drill a larger hole under the chip and drop in a slab of coated aluminum and have a more fitting solution for the exact chip than the prefab pegs can deliver.
hmm, good points there, i like the idea that you can use the to mount a heatsink directly to them, but as you said, thermal stresses, and mechanical stresses come into play. I had thought about drilling out the vias on some miners and filling them with a copper plug, but i have no idea if they have any tracks running between the vias. or even plugging the vias with single strand copper wires to help draw the heat out (flush cut to the board). Still though i see what people think if the idea |
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but im getting this now (wat voodoo is dis dave?!): same old 50% error rating, that no one else seems to get on theirs Well the latest git should read cgminer 4.7.1 Admittedly the version number will only upgrade if you do ./autogen.sh first which you should always do when building from git before running ./configure but given your screenshot, I can't actually be sure that you are actually running the latest git version. Furthermore, the rockminer comes up as LIR on mainline cgminer but you haven't made it clear which particular cgminer this is in your screener... either way I dunno what version you're running for your testing. rockminerinc's git that one would be , not yours, its hella out of date. when im compiling yours from your git follow the instructions in the readme thats the smaller 'buntu screenies. That screenshot is from rockxies version of the software. its one ive pulled down a month ago from the already month old git. i see no updates to that software, so its pointless to re-download it again, unless you can spoof the dates and times for every edit in git. even getting the "Latest" that rockxie linked me, or the mega.co.nz files, all the same old 4.3.3. |
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AJRGale, just out of curiosity, if you click on page one of this thread and look in the first post, partway down; you will see a link titled something like latest sept.18 latest cgminer .... anyway, its a link that starts with MegaCode if you click that while on your Ubuntu, does it come up with a Linux version or just the windows version?
talking about the mega.co.nz link? and the file with "░▓╫░zadig╟¤╢п║єгм╟ы╘╦╨╨start.bat╬─╝■╞Ї╢п│╠╨Є" name? as much as i have little to no trust in mega.co.nz and anyone having the ability to edit or change any file and taking your wallet.dat or hijacking bitcoind, *mumble rage and stuff* ill load up the files. i still think its the same that im running now form git, 18th sep was the last time they were updated Edit: Yeah, nah its the same |
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I looked at all the screenshots you've posted here and the one thing you have not done is post a screenshot of this miner running the official download from the rockminer website which uses a fork of cgminer 4.3.3 and set the freq 320 as a comparison to any newer versions of software that so for have not given the results you are looking for.
i shall do that right nowThis is the sort of error i used to see, hence using bfgminer then the latest cgminer:  but im getting this now (wat voodoo is dis dave?!): same old 50% error rating, that no one else seems to get on theirs Double check your start.bat because the freq is not displayed correctly for one. As for the hotplug issue that simply wanted you to unplug and replug the device in. Its a leftover from USB era aka BFL's and a few others, the device was too slow to be found/respond. Just let the software run at startup it will have a few complaints at times but usually gets going under a minute. As far as Diff on Kano.is it will ramp up on its own, discarding shares at each change or you could bump it up under Worker/Management tab to something like 128 and minimize the number of times that happens. I have six of these miners now and start out at 512. i left frequency out because it never liked that option, (probably using the wrong one eg: --rock-freq over --rmu-auto) plug'n'play never worked out well for me (reinstalled on reinstalled, replugged on replugging, hard powerdowns on hard powerdowns), just to get it to bee seen. i still don't think its using the correct drivers today, never got a WCID to be installable and active. i don't care about the diff atm, but good to know thanks, i shall set that higher. still, this isn't a ubuntu install, so i cant shutdown my gaming rig whilst its running on there. but there is still the issue of the 50% errors that this runs at on this system with this software, newer ones on the ubuntu system is doing 10% |
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What kind of room temps are you running this miner in as well, at 320Mhz my miner if very reactive to changes in the source temps. Specifically a change +- 2F almost always shows up in the miner software +- 1-2C. Right now I'm able to maintain the room near 71F with the miner at 39-40C.
depending of i leave the aircon on for the day, it has gotten upto 35ish C ambient. right now i think its around 25, got a (dust 'prolly)storm blowing though right now. no real notable heat off the miner though, even though its at 40 degrees C |
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I looked at all the screenshots you've posted here and the one thing you have not done is post a screenshot of this miner running the official download from the rockminer website which uses a fork of cgminer 4.3.3 and set the freq 320 as a comparison to any newer versions of software that so for have not given the results you are looking for.
i shall do that right nowThis is the sort of error i used to see, hence using bfgminer then the latest cgminer: but im getting this now (wat voodoo is dis dave?!): same old 50% error rating, that no one else seems to get on theirs |
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OK, running now, i'll give it the hour or 2 and post results.. want debug info or anything ckolivas?
Nah, just the gory details of the hashrate, accepted, rejected, and hw errors.  maybe this miner is the odd one out, everyone that posted here seems to run fine, i wonder if its something ive done in the process of installing and running it. i meant to say everyone else is all "mine is fine, just follow the instructions" |
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If you follow Rockies newest links to the Git hub repository, read the latest commits. These links are for the T1.
you talking about this? https://github.com/rockminerinc/Rockminer/commits?author=rockminerincwah! my miner is only doing 30-40GHs now!! im tearing it down, see if i killed something
ok, ok, panic over, i had to see if it was the software 1st, it was, slapped it on the old 4.7.0 that does 50% erroring, it was happy at 100GHs
I've rolled back some of the larger changes and just included the hacks. Can you try the latest git master and see if it's any worse/better? i'll get onto that later tonight when i get home from work compiling now OK, running now, i'll give it the hour or 2 and post results.. want debug info or anything ckolivas? |
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If you follow Rockies newest links to the Git hub repository, read the latest commits. These links are for the T1.
you talking about this? https://github.com/rockminerinc/Rockminer/commits?author=rockminerincwah! my miner is only doing 30-40GHs now!! im tearing it down, see if i killed something
ok, ok, panic over, i had to see if it was the software 1st, it was, slapped it on the old 4.7.0 that does 50% erroring, it was happy at 100GHs
I've rolled back some of the larger changes and just included the hacks. Can you try the latest git master and see if it's any worse/better? i'll get onto that later tonight when i get home from work compiling now |
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i have to ask, after seeing this http://tem-products.com/index.php/powpeg.html on eevblogs. Do you developers know about these "PowerPeg Thermal Connectors" ? i want to know if they do any better then vias under the QFN chips? so it'll make the cost per chip $1.50c more, but it should hold the sink to the chips, and be a direct thermal connection to them too. Its just a thought though.. |
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If you follow Rockies newest links to the Git hub repository, read the latest commits. These links are for the T1.
you talking about this? https://github.com/rockminerinc/Rockminer/commits?author=rockminerincwah! my miner is only doing 30-40GHs now!! im tearing it down, see if i killed something
ok, ok, panic over, i had to see if it was the software 1st, it was, slapped it on the old 4.7.0 that does 50% erroring, it was happy at 100GHs
I've rolled back some of the larger changes and just included the hacks. Can you try the latest git master and see if it's any worse/better? i'll get onto that later tonight when i get home from work |
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wah! my miner is only doing 30-40GHs now!! im tearing it down, see if i killed something
ok, ok, panic over, i had to see if it was the software 1st, it was, slapped it on the old 4.7.0 that does 50% erroring, it was happy at 100GHs
Is it still reporting errors of 50%? What is your poolside hashrate? its the old windows build that i was using before ckolivas started to experiment with a few hacks for the miners. the old 4.7.0 didn't like the "new r-box" to well, it kept pulling bad data. no matter what speed, or pool i was on it always had an issue with it. I threw it on there to see if anything was changed after i tried to oc the chips (i wanted to see where i could push them till they went feral at me). I didn't expect it to last when i went back down the clock speeds (hence the panic when the miner went to 30-40GHs at the stock settings) . after that i did a hard powerdown and restarted the miner. its all good now, doing the usual 80-90MHs at 10% on the 4.7.1 and as pointed out about 2 months ago (ok about a month ago), with this 2 month old software, this don't work, even worse with the NRBox hence the reason why the Author of CGMiner is working on it, Give him a hand yo!? We use this for hundreds of RK-BOX,they are ok. What's your details error info about it? Please just send me a mail for the details. rockixe#rockminer.com Thanks. For RK-box,it is out of production,we changed the design and don't use icarus protocol now,and there are no docs about it,sorry for that. care to read over what has been posted here rockxie? if you want me to email you a printable frendly PDF if this whole thing im happy to do that summery: using your 2 month old cgminer, never worked, downloaded the latest cgminer at the time, worked, at 50% HARDWARE ERRORS, ckolivas updated his software with hacks to YOUR half assed attempt at the drivers, im getting 10% HW Errors at 10-20% less hashing power then what you quoted. just do the honours and give ckolivas the required documentation to fix the software. there is security patches and other shit needed to be fixed over the 2 month old software you are trying to force on us |
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wah! my miner is only doing 30-40GHs now!! im tearing it down, see if i killed something
ok, ok, panic over, i had to see if it was the software 1st, it was, slapped it on the old 4.7.0 that does 50% erroring, it was happy at 100GHs
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and as pointed out about 2 months ago (ok about a month ago), with this 2 month old software, this don't work, even worse with the NRBox hence the reason why the Author of CGMiner is working on it, Give him a hand yo!? |
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just for lols, jumped to Kano's ckpool, 1024 diff over 128, i think im going to like it here
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wanna jump in a Cessna and fly to china to find Rockxie?
Speaking of which, he used to be pretty active here, but that appears to not be the case any more... My spidey sense is tingling. see: .. actually, is Rockxie going to pop back in here again? last message was on October 21, about 3 weeks ago
all i can see is he'd be all up in that amhash thing (or the other asicminer reinvent meh thingy)
i am hoping that once that amhash thing blows over, he'd have more free time. or not care anymore. little more wtf from others: Is there a Sep. financial report/update coming soon? Thanks
We will combine September and October report together by considerring Oct has passed two third. Any updates?? basically no updates or information for september or october. Maybe an update on RM's involvment with AMhash? what revenue is the company pulling in from this endeavour? Is RM personally self mining? whats the hashrate or why not? Are RM just taking a back seat until AMgen4? September 13th, 2014 - Update and Dividends of August can be visited at : http://blog.rockminer.com/t/7/July 28th, 2014 - Financial report of ROCKMINER will be opened on 29th July. ROCKMINER TEAM June 26th, 2014 - the ROCKMINER (ROCK) Fund Will be open for trading on HavelockInvestments.com starting Friday at 9:00 A.M GMT Thank you, Rockminer Havelock Investments Looks like FC gave Rockxie the low down on how to handle PR. Just ignore them! |
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Unfortunately the win exe didn't work for me either.
I was topping out around 400 gh with 7 new r-boxes and 8 of the old ones.
Sorry I wasn't of any useful help then, I hearby pronounce these hacks I added a complete failure. All I offered was some tweaking of someone's existing setup which was successful but it appears unique to just that one setup. It's hard to achieve much on remote hardware you don't even have documentation for. Looks like this driver needs a complete rewrite which isn't possible without some proper communication protocol documentation. I don't suppose anyone has some? hey ckolivas, you didn't miss a semicolon in the code did you?  Heh I wish it were something that simple. wanna jump in a Cessna and fly to china to find Rockxie? oooorr, how about a open firmware to be a drop in replacement to most of these BE200 mining clones? up for a new project? (come to think of it, i wonder if the old USB block erupter firmware would run with be200 :-? ) all they really are is just some atmel talking via uart or something to the BEs. something i've been wanting to do is look at the firmware in these miners |
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Unfortunately the win exe didn't work for me either.
I was topping out around 400 gh with 7 new r-boxes and 8 of the old ones.
hey ckolivas, you didn't miss a semicolon in the code did you? |
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right'o, recompiled a new git download..
i'll let it run for a few hours to balance out and i'll post results
well WTF did i do wrong?  No idea, your results look virtually unchanged (and still shitful). You definitely built the latest from git? What does 'git describe' say? 10GH/s less again at about 40% errors be it issue "git describe" give me : v1.0-7211-g38700f5 if that means anything to you? Okay, that's what we in the industry call "fucking shithouse". No idea what's wrong sorry. This is how I see 8 of them perform on an extended run on ckpool; i.e. not religius (remote login, not my hardware): A:76004520 R:1238160 HW:855006 WU:12408.0/m
0: LIR 0 : 350MHz 43C | 101.4G / 107.5Gh/s WU:1502.4/m
1: LIR 1 : 350MHz 42C | 112.7G / 112.8Gh/s WU:1575.8/m
2: LIR 2 : 350MHz 40C | 112.7G / 116.7Gh/s WU:1630.8/m
3: LIR 3 : 350MHz 42C | 123.4G / 113.5Gh/s WU:1585.1/m
4: LIR 4 : 350MHz 40C | 119.2G / 109.3Gh/s WU:1526.5/m
5: LIR 5 : 350MHz 42C | 106.3G / 107.2Gh/s WU:1497.0/m
6: LIR 6 : 350MHz 41C | 108.0G / 106.5Gh/s WU:1487.5/m
7: LIR 7 : 350MHz 42C | 114.2G / 114.7Gh/s WU:1603.0/m
Perhaps you have a hardware issue? im asuming so, when i get the parts, im modding the heatsinks in the thing, the top heatsink when i popped it off, 3 or 4 of the chips were not making contact with the gunk and sink., the bottom side has more gunk then i've ever used in the industry of computer repairs (who knows how many air bubbles are in it). i'd like to see what each chip is spitting out with its temp and hashing. but your software doesn't show that out of the box. (lukes does, and atm does give better hash-rates (80-85Ghs) but i cant be stuffed right now installing it on the 'buntu system) all said an done, i'll just accept its a shit model i got. the best i got out of it was 100Ghs, with 50% errors (how is the errors counted anyway? is it just garbage that the software picks up, or is it the hardware going "ouchies, i subbed my toe") on your software. |
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