just a thought...

could always do a teespring setup.
if no one else is interested, then never mind, no cost to you

SIDEHACK! Shirt, this, now! funding project!

Ha! you know, my best miner threw a leg outa bed too, im back to running the crappy "new r-box" that cant get over 70GH/s, so you're not alone brother!
i think ive worked mine to be the usb to serial converter, im hoping i can talk to it via rs232, once i work out what the pinout is..

Just to update about these things, the fans, they are not 80mm fans, they are in fact 72mm fans, went to replace one of them that lost 2 blades, lo' and behold, 80mm fan out of a psu does not fit. now to hunt out a smaller fan.

Oh, hat are these 6 pins next to the USB port, is that rs323? and what pin does what?

kinda need that info after plugging in 2nd "new r-box" onto the system and the 1st popped its usb to serial chip (it will not be seen at all via usb again, how i know its fried? it leaves 1st degree burns when touching the chip)

them pictures... *squeals like a little girl*

Hell yeah! flashy sticks is all the rage! i cant buy enough of them Blink(1) Mk2 sticks! i want one that can warm my house too! whats this "hashing" you speak of? is that like some sort of robot dance?


about 2 weeks good? yeah 2 weeks.
(i know people Love to wait 2 weeks)

but seriously, don't stress yourself over it, don't cut corners, i don't think people would mind you take a week break from it if it gets to you.

you want to sell this product, and you stay open on whats happening, i think you'll have buyers. i know i would like to buy up 1% (now you said something along the lines of 1000, 1% of that is 10, well i want to buy 10!) of the 1st run, it may not be much, but i think others would be happy to buy more.

ZO RELAXEN UND WATSCHEN DER BLINKENLICHTEN.

the question is, how many designers worked out that the system may be running a lower voltage then the 12v out of the PCIe power plugs?
some how i don't thing my miners will be happy with less then 11v.. i have no variable voltage supply to test though.. i could rig up 7v out of my PSU with some random PCIe plug i cut off a dead psu :-?

unless you know a simple voltage dropper that could handle many amps, and be able to be slapped together on a breadboard?

none the less, a simple mosfet and resistor (well you know what i mean, get it form 12v to 5v/3.3v/1.2v/etc.) is cheap enough to keep 12v "clean" without spending another $5-10/per Vin on components to step up/down the voltage in.

come to think of it, im going to tare down the old "new r-box" and poke'n'prod them voltage lines, and maybe throw a rs232 input on the chips tx lines. (watch me let out that blue magic smoke on something), i really want to see where its failure point is (bad solder on one chip?).. also i want to get messy with all that white ceramic thermal compound... i ment, *ehem*

Car battery, bad idea, they are more like capacitors then batteries, they are designed for large amounts of current at a small time scale.
SLA batteries on the other hand are OK, just don't let them discharge less then 25% of the stored capacity, they don't last long there after (think UPS's been discharged before power gets back online. you basically need to replace them)

Running miners off batteries can be done, i have looked into running one of my "new r-box" off solar + batteries, but i need a lot of batteries to keep up with 1000Wh (10 hours of 100W pull) and need many more solar panels to charge and run the miner in the short time there is sunlight..

and also voltage drop from discharging cells may not work with miners, the miners have a small voltage tolerance 12v+/-5% and cells drop to 9V at ~75% charge



Speaking of using the miners as heaters, im using my 2 miners atm to warm my lounge room, im thinking of throwing in a temperature sensor on the fans so they both keep a certain level of heat out, throw a potentiometer on it to change the heat sensitivity, so drop it for winter, raise it up for summer

Yeah, i think i understand now, you feel there is more of a risk of losing more. im just trying to scratch my head head of what i would consider a small loss..
here im running 2x "new r-box's" at about 1w/GH, so what i get out of it is hella less then what im paying in electricity (which last quarter was 800+aud, but it wasn't all to mining, it would of been about 1/8th of the usage?), and so far i've only gotten ~0.25btc (or about 50aud) in that time, so mining to roi is something way outside my league.


do that, you already roi it

I'm not to be a dick here.. you're saying that you needed 1 more bitcoin out of what you mined (no idea what your earnings are) with the 12TH's to make it worth it last month? what is your total run since you 1st started?
I expect a loss here or there mining, but what is the killer reason to turn it off this month when you lost out last month? unless you just want out?

as for the ants, whats your costs? where you at? im guessing not an aussie?



sorry, your text was mixed up inside every other quote

Bugger, i wasn't paying attention to that lot, it a shame, the be300 look like it was going to be a nice little chip.
Ah well, time for me to look into making my own chips (like i have $1.5M to put into asic silicon dev)

Yep, i understand and agree.


now now, no build to a cost, build it to spec, no corner cutting, im ok with adding another 5-10 for a fan in-build. as much as certain people are  expecting to pay 50c per GHs, i wish i could throw them back in the old days where it was $1k/Ghs and 50c per bitcoin... enough ranting.

none the less, saving up to by 10 of them, at the cost of 20, thanks postage...

and for the fans to sleep to, throw a desk fan on, it works for me, and when it gets hot in summer, aim it at yourself

no no, i was talking to and about other people, didn't want to spam multiple responses..

what i was asking was the commands you're using, eg: "cgminer -o stratum+tcp://stratum.kano.is:3333 -u Kano.worker -p x".
and you have tried the other ports?

even better, whats the error its giving you?

yeah, go read bikboooiiii!

no, but really, people do have a nerve eh?

(now i do hope i put enough stupidity into that quote to make it look like i was being sarcastic)

lol, just reading them now; you should listen to him, that newbie with 26 posts knows so much better then you !!*ehem*
and you too philipma1957, you're not mining there no more, no more say from you, and no more "dodge" for you too

wait, this user isn't opentoe, right?



got the right arguments set? (i know, small stupid question)

Rooster Teeth did a "Rage Quit" video on "Alex Kidd in Miracle World" about 2 years ago, Yatzee (zero punctual) did a "Let's drown out" with it a year ago, also HappyConsoleGamer did a review on it about a year ago too, if you want to hunt down them videos on youtube.

it was the 1st and last time that i know of, consoles had an inbuilt game with them. i thought all consoles should have this feature, half expected nintendo64 would of had one...

but yeah, evolution of the mining hardware, i remember when it was all just speculation, then the eruptor came out for the public (yes yes, there was avalon for thousands and 40 months waiting period, and bfl just bfl'ing everyone before it), expensive even for the price comparison to a video card that did better then it, but it was USB! you could plug it in any USB host! had TP-Links "3g routers" running them! couldn't do that with video cards, it was so much cheaper to run (i still have 2 of them, collecting dust now, but still able to hash away)


then s-crypt came out as asic, via a little hack on the encryption code or some odd thing like that, didn't need the MB of ram to run it.. i don't know, once it came out in asic form, i back away from it, and gaw just destroyed the market for it.



dunand, the idea of usb miners is not to ROI, its to have fun with them, and enjoy pulling the hashrate over power consumption, not trying to make money back.

philipma1957, exactly, he is planing, not doing, things may change

oh man... remember them numbers when asics were not around? you'd have to have 1 rig with 4/5 radeon HD cards in them pulling them numbers?
then it dwindled down to 10mm2 of space needed to pull them numbers, and 1/100 the cost..

now we embrace it, and pay Alex Kidd here with burgers (well ok, it was onigiri, but when i was a kid playing that game, it looked like burgers) to play with them even

yes, cant beat angus, well you can, they tend to throw you into barb wire though...  there was 3 stores that did chips'n'burgers here in this town, now there is 2 fast food joints here, and its ripping the old family run stores, they all want to sell up now, one has sold recently to indians (not racist, they just opportunists here) that already own their own kabab store. none the less, all 3 have their own style on how to cook'n'prep, so there is a mix.

just as you said NDA paperwork, lemme guess, "cant say this, cant do that?" "its really not our chip but shhhh..""you must sacrifice a young soul to bind your soul our gods so you can use their gifts" etc?

they are good at running their business, but if you have to lawyer up to understand that paperwork, would it be worth it? i am not a lawyer, but if you want anyone to run over the paperwork, i could be another set of eyes for you (if bitmain isn't going to take my head for it)

they say its 100% beef, but they don't tell you its the stripping off the cuts, boiled and pressed into the patties with additives and flavourings, to later fry it together, then frozen so it can be ship it to the restaurant for them to slap on 300 degree flat top and heat both sides for 30 seconds each, and sit in the bayonet for 2 hours.. but that still 100% beef...
now them buns, oh yes, so much more additives and anti-bacterial products in that..

but, go to the local shop and get your burgers, $8.50 for a burger with the lot, or a $5.50 for a mac? $3 more for something that has 5x the mass, and their own hand made patties, thanks..

on the other hand, sidehack, any luck with bitmain? or to early in the day?

cheapest option over net+phone line rental, but hell, once i went to dsl and paying 2x as much for "unlimited" data, i don't think i can go back without a fight...


running hax'ed up kubuntu on this laptop, i would run it on my game system, once all my games can run on it, and when i get my but motivated again, 15 systems here going to be clustered up with MicroCore linux

when i was 3g'ing, had IPcop running the connection to 3G and squid caching the webs onto a 50GB drive, damn that dropped my quota usage, just needed to download what was needed, pull the rest off the drive. when google decided to change is logo every week, it made hell for the cache, i seen a different logo for every different tab and page.

Also..
2 block in just 3 hours, nice.

to bad rockxie canned the business and went following friedcat into the not so, but similar flavoured, gaw hell... he was doing good for a while there, then greed kicked in i thinks.

if you can fill that void, many people would be happy, Bring the mining back to the people!