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681  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin100: 2.012 BTC for Ron Paul 2012 on: December 20, 2011, 05:09:18 PM
i just read up on the guy. he thinks every man should be as free as possible, especially in regard to how much firepower he can hoard. women however are free to give birth and stfu. its really a pity i cant vote for him  Grin
682  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: $90,000 in credit card fees on: December 18, 2011, 07:27:46 PM
thats why bitcoin needs multi-signature transactions. you can give the politician the first key to the money and when he delivers you give him the second.  Grin
683  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Please help sanity test: version 0.5.1 on: December 13, 2011, 06:01:09 PM
works on windows 7, 64bit.

nice to see a bugfix release so fast after 0.5.  Smiley
please please please sneak in a fix for the autostart option.
thats very likely easy to fix and can keep quite a few people from running bitcoin all the time.
684  Economy / Speculation / Re: You guys don't get it - Bitcoin will act like a Ponzi scheme until Dec 2012 on: December 13, 2011, 03:35:17 PM
high inflation? 25% APR is tiny considering how new bitcoin is.  Most disruptive technologies fail. But the ones that don't fail, usually grow a lot faster than 25% APR in the first few years.  

Bitcoin today is not that tiny. The total market cap of Bitcoin is around 24 million dollars at this exchange rate. And the inflation is 33% not 25%.

That's tiny.
indeed.
i think f&f counts money in units like burgers or something. i just tried to find a good example of something that costs around 24mio dollars. first thing i tried was planes, unfortunately, the smallest commercial passenger aircraft from airbus already costs 65mio. didnt bother to look up boeing after that ...

24mio isnt much if you consider how many people already work on bitcoin related software or services.
685  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: [ANN] Introducing LoveBitcoins.org – Driving 1 MILLION Bitcoin Users in 2012 on: December 10, 2011, 06:39:02 PM
That is what I do.  It's not flawed logic, it's targeted marketing.  When the 60 yr old women in front of me at the grocery store pulls out her checkbook, my first thought isn't discussing Bitcoin with her.  However, when the the guy in front of me at Starbucks pulls out his phone to be scanned by the cashier for payment, that's exactly what I think of.  It's an easier close because its a smaller learning curve.  When google wallet, Dwolla, or Paypal mobile come up in conversations I introduce bitcoins.  I don't go into politics, speculation, or investing just the competitive  advantages bitcoins can offer over the current system - to people who already know and use mobile payment systems it's an easy sell.  And I would be wiling to bet I can drive more people to Bitcoin by targeting these users than any other demographic.  And that is the goal for me, Bitcoin users, not speculators or investors, because that is what I am and that is what I know.

i agree they are easy to approach, but what can you offer them?
you lack the enviroment. you need ways for them to spend their money. a single shop in new york wont cut it. you have to focus on online shops. and those are equally accessible with a pc or laptop. so why ignore them?
686  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: [ANN] Introducing LoveBitcoins.org – Driving 1 MILLION Bitcoin Users in 2012 on: December 10, 2011, 06:28:03 PM
My motto is simple. Go Big or Go Home.  With the talent we have in the bitcoin community we can build more innovative products than a mega corporation like google.  It doesn't take ten million dollars.  It just takes good ideas and solid execution.  The road is wide open right now while we have no competition.  Let's take it. 
Exactly.  Remittance is prominently mentioned on the site and in the updated presentation.  The video will be remade when we get time and money.  Bitcoin needs local bitcoin-to-cash dealers in Mexico, India, and the other places you mentioned.  Its a perfect business for a local merchant of any kind.  Get em started!

i didnt say go small. i consider finding a niche only a first step and expect exponential growth from there.
remmitance for example might turn out to be a profitable business, but i think wont ignite exponential growth for bitcoin as a whole. it totally doesnt fit your go big philosophy.
my approach would be to find ways to distribute bitcoins within an online community and offer services specific to that target group.

that way, you have people who are inclined to spend or keep their bitcoins, not directly trade it back to another currency. you can then expand on both sides, find more shops to cater to that group or get groups with similiar customer behavior on board. once you have a big enough community for shops to consider it an oppurtunity and enough shops for people to rather spend small amounts of bitcoins then to go through the hassle of trading them, its downhill from there. its like getting toads to australia. as soon as you get the first few toads in a fitting enviroment they spread like a plague. you however try to build a boat for every toad in the americas.
687  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: [ANN] Introducing LoveBitcoins.org – Driving 1 MILLION Bitcoin Users in 2012 on: December 10, 2011, 05:43:15 AM
Apple, Google, and Facebook are not spending millions of dollars on mobile wallets for no reason. we have a product today and they do not. Read my OP.  let's build ourselves as much of a lead in the "digital wallet" space while we have no competition.  If I had a team of developers at my disposal right now I would put all hands on deck for mobile wallets and nothing else.

your strategy seems surprisingly sound - for a company with several hundert million customers + infinite money supply...
a currency needs an ecosystem. google etc. have half of that and has the money to create the other half from scratch. they can create applications, products and demand all at the same time. you have to pick a niche where at least some of that already exists and expand from there.


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I shop, download, and spend much more time on my phone than on my computer - and people like me are the ones I send to the site.
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I think you and I are on the same page. I spend 1-3 hours a day at a computer. And about 10-12 hours a day with my phone.  I download music and games straight to my iPhone.


the flaw in your logic is that you are already here.
sell to potential customers, not to yourself.

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Read my OP.

i did. there are 1 billion iphone users and 1 million windows users, all of which have the computer knowledge of a visual c programmer and would use bitcoin solely for the technology.
obviously, you live in a parallel universe.
688  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: [ANN] Introducing LoveBitcoins.org – Driving 1 MILLION Bitcoin Users in 2012 on: December 10, 2011, 02:53:28 AM
I respectfully, and completely, disagree.  Mobile phones, and getting a smoothly working client running on them, should be a huge priority.  Smartphones are being carried around more and more, and not having a Bitcoin client available for them to use is cutting off a large crowd of people from using it.

regular computers are still the majority. how many people in western countries have smartphones but no computer? how many use their phone instead of their computer for online shopping? how many buy digital goods and services on phones? file download services, movies, porn, gambling, gametime, all of these make more sense for the big, clunky devices.
i dont say ignore the smartphone market completely. but bitcoins (first) breakthough wont happen there.
689  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: [ANN] Introducing LoveBitcoins.org – Driving 1 MILLION Bitcoin Users in 2012 on: December 10, 2011, 01:48:15 AM
Because your leather wallet is a portable item you carry everywhere in your pocket.  Your digital wallet should offer the same convenience. 

i had hoped for an argument, not a bad analogy  Undecided
imho focusing on mobile devices and especially local sales with QR-codes is pretty much a guarantee for failure. you need something like a dozen globally available, popular shops or services for bitcoin to really catch on or alternatively thousands or maybe even millions of local businesses. plus PCs and laptops are still extremly popular and will remain so, especially among the more tech-savvy crowd. you cant play games, program or do any other serious computer-related work on a phone. for the short and medium term, this will be your audience. i hope you dont try step 5 before step 3 and 4.

besides that, mobile phones are currently a security nightmare. bitcoin is a security nightmare by design. i think both have to improve before this explosive combination can really work.

690  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: [ANN] Introducing LoveBitcoins.org – Driving 1 MILLION Bitcoin Users in 2012 on: December 09, 2011, 09:47:44 PM
If either one of those guys builds a mobile client I would be much more inclined to feature them.

why?
691  Local / Deutsch (German) / Re: Bitcoin als Zahlungsmethode akzeptieren - techn. Fragen on: December 09, 2011, 11:39:05 AM
das ist eine sehr interessante frage. wahrscheinlich dürfte die zahlung dann gar nicht mehr existieren, weil der block in dem der angreifer sie eingebaut hat, als ungültig erkannt wurde und damit zum orphan block wird, also nicht mehr teil der blockchain ist. wenn du mit einem api call nach den transaktionen mit 2 confirmations an eine bestimmte adresse fragst, ist es aber egal ob es gar keine transaktion gibt oder noch eine mit 0 confirmations rumliegt. das ergebnis ist beide male leer.
eine confirmation reicht aber. die finney attack funktioniert so, daß jemand, wenn einen block findet, ihn nicht sofort veröffentlicht, sondern erst noch irgendwo (z.b. in deinem shop) sein geld ausgibt, und wartet bis du die zahlung im netzwerk siehst.  dann veröffentlicht er schnell den block, in dem die bitcoins, die dir überwiesen werden sollten, an eine andere, eigene adresse überwiesen werden. dadurch kann die ursprünglich transaktion an dich nicht mehr ausgeführt werden. dazu braucht man nicht unbedingt massivste rechnenpower. aber man muss halt erstmal einen block finden, alleine der versuch lohnt sich also nur wenn man eine reelle chance hat einen block zu finden. außerdem riskiert der angreifer, daß jemand in dem kurzen zeitraum, den der unbestätigte zahlungsvorgang an dich dauert, auch einen block findet und dann kann er den eigenen block samt den 50btc belohnung in den müll werfen.
692  Local / Trading und Spekulation / Re: Die ING-DIBA meint wohl ich hab den Bitcoin-Virus ;) on: December 08, 2011, 12:59:12 PM
mtgox hatte das problem ja auch schon mit den sparkassen, wenn ich mich recht erinnere. in jedem fall sollte intersango mal versuchen zu klären, ob da tatsächlich konkrete betrugsversuche bei intersango der auslöser waren, oder ob die banken da gerade einfach nur bitcoin den geldhahn zudrehen wollen.
das werden sie zwar kaum so kommunizieren, aber es wäre ja schon interessant, ob man da überhaupt irgendeine konkrete information herauskitzeln kann.
693  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Internet Archive (Home of the Wayback Machine) Accepting Bitcoin Donations! on: December 08, 2011, 04:04:22 AM
In case anyone at the Archive is reading and wondering why we're such a paranoid lot:

Bitcoins are a little different from other online currencies where charges can be reversed in case of a scam.  Bitcoins are like cash - once you give it to someone, it's theirs.  That's both good (Things like this don't happen with Bitcoins) and bad (we have to do our own diligence).

Wow.  That's the worst Paypal story yet.

qft!

that is one hardcore story. lesson: dont give christmas presents to kids, give christmas presents to the sick cats of kids - because its a worthy cause!
694  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: [ANN] Introducing LoveBitcoins.org – Driving 1 MILLION Bitcoin Users in 2012 on: December 05, 2011, 05:21:58 PM
No mention of remittance on the website?

Remittance is a massive money transfer business here in Canada and the United States. Millions of immigrants who speak poor english walk into a remittance shop once a week to pay ridiculous fees to transfer money to their loved ones back home.

If you could target them, and somehow get across that the fees were much lower...!!!

YES!!  We have that in the US also.  Western Union.  I will add it to the site, as these are perfect groups to target.

they are only a target group if you can gurantee low fees and fast transactions for deposit/withdrawal in both countries. therefore, the best approach would be to target one specific country pair at first, make sure the currency conversion and money transaction is vastly superior to the current popular solution and try to replace it completly within that specific immigrant community. immigrants are often highly connected among each other, so once you set up and introduce your solution, it might spread on its own if its really that good.
695  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The new interface in Bitcoin 0.5.0 is BAD when compared to the 0.4.0 interface on: December 05, 2011, 05:09:55 PM
changes:
1. The download of blockchain is displayed in statusbar. It's either progressimeter or percent counted.
2. Current bandwidth utilization
3. New Advanced menu with items such as "Manually Add Peer..." and "Rescan Blockchain" and other command-line only switches.

I tried to imagine and visualize how to improve the Qt version. But I figured out that it's like trying to make elephant fly like a colibri bird. It will never happen, the Qt version UI is so unergonomic and the Qt is not meant with MS windows UI in mind. So I see no way to make the current Bitcoin version as usable as it was in 0.4.0

1 and 2 are good ideas, but i think a graphical solution is still better. or both with a switch in the options menu. for most users, the numbers are just a little bit too much information. they just want to know if the connection is good and the blockchain is up to date. or not. rescan blockchain should also be in the avaible somewhere, alongside an explanation when it might help.

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I tried to imagine and visualize how to improve the Qt version. But I figured out that it's like trying to make elephant fly like a colibri bird. It will never happen, the Qt version UI is so unergonomic and the Qt is not meant with MS windows UI in mind. So I see no way to make the current Bitcoin version as usable as it was in 0.4.0

yeah well, whats the alternative? sticking to wxwidgets gui obviously nobody wants to maintain doesnt seem like a good plan either.
696  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Coming Soon: The Casascius 1000 BTC FINE GOLD COIN on: December 02, 2011, 05:22:33 PM
 Shocked
can you please tell me how many of these you produce and where? floor plans for the building would be very much aprreciated, thank you  Grin
697  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: good way to measure total Bitcoin users? on: November 30, 2011, 05:15:08 AM
http://sourceforge.net/projects/bitcoin/files/stats/timeline?dates=2011-01-01+to+2011-11-30

tl:dr: almost 1 mio downloads from sourceforge this year

http://bitcoinstatus.rowit.co.uk/

not open source, but has quite a few charts on active nodes, their location, client version etc. for the last ten weeks.

tl:dr: about 35k nodes active at least once per day right now
698  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: SwitchPoker.com - Adds Bitcoin Deposits! on: November 28, 2011, 11:40:07 PM
Anyone outside the US can come on StrikeSapphire, day or night, and play in a freeroll; they open up as soon as the last freeroll started and you can open six windows at the same time. They're cheap - about 0.5 BTC each - but only take 4 players to start. Come support us. We need the xo luv.

And our software, which is original, is a hell of a lot nicer.

just tried your site. looks nice. would look nicer with players.

btw arent freerolls usually kinda eh...free?  Huh
699  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Nigeria may be forced to adopt bitcoin on: November 25, 2011, 04:54:42 PM
for comparison, i just checked how expensive m-pesa payments are.

in kenya you pay roughly 0.27$ (30 ksh) for a standard size atm withdrawal or mobile payment. nominal per capita gdp is 875$, in western countries its around 40.000$, 45 times higher. so this 0.3$ feels like 12$ to the average kenyan. i dont know how many m-pesa payments a kenyan usually does per year, but 12$ sounds high enough to be an incentive to use an alternative where its possible.

also interesting: http://technology.cgap.org/2009/09/08/understanding-what-drives-profits-for-agents-m-pesa/
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The number one cost for most agents was liquidity management – moving cash. Agents report a host of expenses, including bank charges, transport costs, and fees to aggregators who advance commissions and provide easy float/cash swaps for agents. On average, liquidity management consumed 30% of total expenses. Extending the network of aggregators would help alleviate some of the costs, and Safaricom has taken steps to calibrate the fees aggregators charge.

thats something that can completly vanish if you use bitcoin exclusively. of course that would require pretty much everyone accepting bitcoin. its still interesting to see how expensive it is to have digital money on top of a physical fiat currency.
700  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin-Qt/bitcoind version 0.5.0 on: November 23, 2011, 10:54:37 PM
lot of people complain about tooltips, black rectangles in your case, not showing up correctly in ubuntu. Try changing your theme settings. It worked for me

no, its win7 too
even though the new gui is much better than the old one, it definitely asks for a 0.5.1. no biggies but a little to many small bugs. the buggy autorun setting is especially bad, since it will effectively make the network smaller.
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