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701  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: November 21, 2023, 09:43:57 PM
Playing against a team like PSG can't be easy for any team and now we are going to have Newcastle playing against PSG while Newcastle needs to win the game and take the full three points from this match because in the four games Newcastle had so far in the group F, they got only four points which means one point per match and this is not good at all.
PSG is a strong team, they have many top players in the world. With the current condition of Newcastle squad, I doubt if Newcastle can get points against PSG. There are 13 players who are unavailable for the match against PSG, it is a very big problem for Newcastle. Even worse, they have no available striker now due to injury cases. On the other hand, PSG also has some injured players but luckily they have many options for the replacement. Those injured players are also not the players who have crucial roles. PSG still can play with their best lineup for the match against Newcastle. So, we can assume PSG will have a big chance to show their best game with their main players, while Newcastle probably plays underperformance with their second squad (substituted players). In theory, PSG will take full points in the upcoming match.  Grin

- https://www.transfermarkt.com/newcastle-united/kader/verein/762
- https://www.transfermarkt.com/fc-paris-saint-germain/startseite/verein/583

702  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: November 21, 2023, 09:29:33 PM
I'm not sure if Griezmann can even have a good performance at Manchester United. But we know Ten Hag and Macnshter United usually had bad performances in the transfer windows like we saw from them during the lat summer in the past.
I also doubt it, Griezmann ever joined Barcelona and he failed to perform in his best level in Barcelona. That's why he returned to Atletico Madrid. I think Griezmann only can play in his best form in Atletico Madrid, it is the only team that can optimize his ability. According to his experience in Barcelona, I'm sure he already got a big lesson and won't easily move to another team. If he still cared about his career, I assume he prefers to stay in Atletico Madrid although Man United made a big offer. Man United is a very unstable team, it is too risky to join Man United.

703  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: [DISKUSI] BITCOIN Sebagai Mata Uang Dunia - Mungkin atau tidak, Mengapa? on: November 21, 2023, 09:07:41 PM
Saya tadi menocoba menggunakan fitur pencarian tetapi tidak menemukan pembahasan tentang bitcon sebagai mata uang dunia, jika dimasa lalu pernah ada mohon di informasikan biar saya lock thread ini.
Di SFI sudah pernah ada pembahasan tentang Bitcoin sebagai mata uang (currency/money).
- Apa bsa jadi mata uang dunia..?
- Layakkah Bitcoin Sebagai Mata Uang

Di global pun itu juga bukan topik baru, sudah ada beberapa thread yang pernah membahasnya. Di antaranya thread-thread berikut ini:
- Is Bitcoin money?
- Bitcoin: The Digital Currency of the Future
- What if receiving payments in bitcoins is made illegal?

Kalau menurut saya, thread ente tidak perlu dilock jika memang ada  hal baru yang ingin disampaikan. Kecuali ente hanya menyampaikan perulangan dari thread-thread sebelumnya. Tapi thread-thread yang pernah membahasnya tidak ada salahnya jika dijadikan referensi atau dicatat sebagai related topic.

Seperti judul yang sudah saya tulis di atas, Bitcoin si gadang-gadang bisa menjadi mata uang dunia, beberapa sepakat dan beberapa tidak. Itu tidak masalah karena dalam setiap gagasan pasti ada pertentangan
Jangankan mengenai potensi Bitcoin sebagai mata uang global, bahkan Bitcoin sebagai currency (mata uang) atau aset (alat investasi) saja masih debatable. Tapi yang jelas jika mengacu ke WP Bitcoin, Bitcoin pada dasarnya memang dibuat sebagai electronic cash atau lebih kepada digital currency (mata uang digital).

Tambahan penjelasan dari Gavin Andresen
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I believe that the statement: "bitcoin is new kind of money" passes the duck test.
Bitcoins function as money (they're a unit of account, a medium of exchange, and a store of value), and if PayPal started allowing Bitcoin transactions tomorrow I'm certain they'd treat them as Just Another Currency.
If you like, call it a commodity, but I think all you'll accomplish is confusing potential users who might think they'll end up getting pork-bellies delivered to their porch if they don't get rid of their bitcoins.

Juga ditegaskan oleh Theymos
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Anything that is being used as a medium of exchange is money. Bitcoin, like gold, is money.

704  Economy / Economics / Re: What would you do in this situation? Invest or save? on: November 20, 2023, 09:57:20 PM
If I just choose number 2. Just leave our investment there and take him back when the time comes as you said. At least this is wiser in investing and we can relax and enjoy life and the available funds are sufficient to recharge our bodies which feel tired due to full activity.
Are we going to dedicate our time to making money for the rest of our lives?
If you are afraid to take risks of investing that money, keeping $15,000 will be a wise decision. But if you just keep it, it means you don't invest that money. If you want to invest that money, you must choose the option of number 1. Both have the advantage and disadvantage, it depends on us to choose which option that is suitable with our condition. IMO, if we have no proper capability in investment sector, it will be too risky to invest $15,000. But if we know well how to invest in a certain thing and we are pretty sure to gain profits, investing $15,000 should be an interesting way.

705  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin vs Altcoins on: November 20, 2023, 09:51:32 PM
You know, dude, whether altcoins or bitcoin have the same risk and both are volatile as well, so don't say that it's not good to invest in altcoins
I don't think so. Bitcoin and altcoin have a seriously different level of the risks. When you hold Bitcoin, it should last a long time with no doubt. Since it was created several years ago, there is no issue that proves Bitcoin to disappear. While for altcoins, we already many times that altcoins can disappear or delisted from exchanges.

There are some altcoins that are often used by scammers to prey on investors here in crypto, but that does not mean that altcoins are bad; they are not.
It is just proven that altcoins have a higher risk. Sure, not all altcoins are bad, but no doubt that investing in altcoins will be riskier. If we choose random altcoins carelessly, the worse scenario that we can get is that we lose all our money because the altcoins are scams. Meanwhile if we hold Bitcoin, we can be confident that Bitcoin will always exist in crypto space.

706  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Saudi Professional League 2023/2024 on: November 20, 2023, 09:42:58 PM
Summer is by the corner and Saudi Pro League clubs are preparing gigantic bids to offer for European players, I'm certain most players will grabbed this golden opportunity and make proper good use of it.nPlayers moving to Saudi Pro League are in for just one thing and that's making good money from football. Erik Ten Hag knows the players he wants and he's keen on signing more players in this January transfer window. Bruno Fernandez is going nowhere, he's the key man in Manchester and the club needs him now the most. I think Bruno Fernandez have no plans to move to SPL currently.
There are already many top players in Saudi Pro League and it is the middle of the season. I'm not sure if there will be many big players to come to Saudi Pro League in the middle of the season. I think players will prefer to move in the early of the season, it should after this season ends. Also, not every top player is interested in joining Saudi Pro League, many of them prefer to stay in Europe until they retire.

For the case of Bruno Fernandes, he is the key player of Man United. Ten Hag won't let him leaving Man United although there will be a huge offer from Saudi clubs. Bruno Fernandes has no serious issue in Man United, he seems to feel happy and comfortable. So, there is a big chance for Bruno Fernandes to stay in Man United a longer time.

707  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: November 20, 2023, 09:12:28 PM
The difference between Manchester City and Liverpool is only 1 point. And these two teams are the most likely to win the title this season. And so this match is very important for both the teams. Liverpool need to get 3 points in this match if they want to take the top spot in the table.
This match will be crucial for both teams. Which team can win the match, it probably increases the motivation and mentality of the whole players. Also, the winner of the match will get the advantage of the points on the table. If Man City wins, they will lead the table with 4 points. But if Liverpool wins, they will replace Man City in the 1st place and leads the table with 2 points. So, 3 points of this match will be very important for both teams.

In the last 5 matches between these two teams, Liverpool have won 3 matches and City have won 2 matches. However, Manchester City has dominated and won in the last two matches against Liverpool. Liverpool were relatively weak in the previous season, so it was easy for City to win. But this season the scenario is different. Liverpool team is very strong this season and they are performing well in every match. So it will not be easy for City to beat Liverpool in this match. Personally my favorite team in this match is Liverpool.
According to the stats of 5 lasts matches, Liverpool is better. But if we look at the current condition of the team, Man City seems stronger than Liverpool. However, I heard that Haaland gets injured and De Bruyne still can't recover from his injury. Missing these 2 players will drop the power of Man City attacking very significantly. So, I think Man City won't be in their best form to play against Liverpool. So, I can agree that Liverpool looks to have more chance to win the match if we look at from the readiness of each squad.

708  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: November 19, 2023, 09:59:20 PM
Vinicius Jr's injury to the Brazilian national team is really unfortunate for Real Madrid. But Real Madrid should have thought about these possibilities beforehand and taken some precautions against them. Vinicius Jr will be out of football for about 3 months due to this injury. After Benzema had gone to the Arab League, they should have immediately made a transfer to fill Benzema's void, but they didn't. Now Vinicius Jr is also injured. They have to sign a striker in the winter transfer window. Otherwise their chances against Girona and Barcelona will diminish.
Sure, it will be a difficult challenge to have no Vinicius on the lineup. He has a big role for Real Madrid front line, he is Real Madrid mainstay left winger. We must know that Real Madrid has no other pure left winger who has the capability as Vinicius. Real Madrid has a crisis of attackers because Bellingham and Arda Guller got injured, too. Now, Real Madrid only have Rodrygo, Joselu, and Brahim Díaz for the attacker options. These players aren't enough for Real Madrid lineup, specifically when Real Madrid has a big match in UCL and La Liga. So, I agree that Real Madrid must sign new attackers in January transfer window. I don't which players that Real Madrid will target to buy in January, but it will be a big addition if they sign a top player like Osimhen or Mbappe. Although the chance to sign them looks rather small, people expect much that Real Madrid can succeed to sign one of those top strikers.

709  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Time to invest AI coins? on: November 19, 2023, 09:57:30 PM
If so then CMC and other's should not categorize them as one (AI) because they can only miss-lead those who are into AI but I suggest that those people should also make a research or double-check things, and not just believing instantly on what they saw so that they won't get fooled. Some projects may not be an AI but as long as they are strong, they can always survived for a long time.
CMC or other sites may categorized them as AI projects based on the description of the projects only. They may not take a deep research to know the real products of the projects. It is our task as investors to do a deep research, the site like CMC just share information, they don't recommend anyone to invest in a certain project.

This is what matters here and popularity can only come next because people can still discover them slowly. While those who are only popular, won't still get an investors or they can't sustain their hype if they don't have something worthy to offer.
Popularity or the hype may last a short time only. We don't invest in a coin based on that thing only. There must be stronger reason like their fundamentals.

710  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Top altcoin that you won't buy anymore on: November 19, 2023, 09:51:34 PM
I won't buy ADA, MATIC, XRP
It is your right to stop buying any altcoin. But you should enclose valid reasons at least.
I agree that XRP looks quite risky to invest because they have some bad issues. But I don't see bad issues for MATIC and ADA. Even these altcoins have showed good progress lately, they also have some good news. MATIC and ADA are also 2 top altcoins with strong fundamentals and they have big community to support them. So, why we shouldn't buy them, dude?  Undecided

That was a straight answer but I could agree with that because of my previous experience with ADA and the losses I got, it was already on my ignore list.
ADA is actually a good coin, they also increased very well in the previous bullrun season. If you got a lose in ADA, you probably have something wrong with your investment strategy. Have you evaluate your investment strategy?

711  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: November 17, 2023, 08:17:27 PM
Intermilan may be going defensively against juventus. Old lady shall not be playing openly against intermilan. Intermilan is a club that was using direct counter attack as its weapon.
Why do Inter Milan seem to play defensively? If Juventus won't play openly, it is the time for Inter Milan to play more offensively. Honestly, I don't know what strategy/tactic will be used by those teams. But they probably will be very careful, they won't play very offensive and won't play too defensive as well.

Lautaro martinez will become the main threat for juventus. Allegri needs to put someone who is capable enough in guarding lautaro.
Juventus has Danilo and Bremer. I think this duo center-backs are enough to stop Lautaro Martínez. Danilo and Bremer are 2 top defenders in Serie A, Lautaro Martínez won't be easy to get through those two players.

I have picked double chance juventus or intermilan win.
Since the match will be in Juventus home, I also agree that Juventus seems to have a better chance to win the match. But we don't what will be happening on the match. Sometimes the result of the match can be out of our prediction.  Wink

712  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: November 17, 2023, 08:02:13 PM
Currently, and I dont understand the problem, Barcelona are struggling in the Champions League. Yet given its enormous strength and very strong players it shouldnt. Lets say that I am satisfied with Barcelonas performance in La Liga, but absolutely not with their performance in the Champions League.
If you learned what's happening in Barcelona, they have a problem in their front line players. Their attackers played underperformance, they are not quite productive in scoring. In the last season, Lewandowski can be an effective machine goal for Barcelona. But this season, his goal productivity is decreasing a lot because he often gets injured. The injury problem ruins his performance, meanwhile other Barcelona strikers can't replace Lewandowski's role as a machine goal.

I think their performance in UCL is quite satisfied. They are leading group H, they won 3 matches and only 1 lose. I'm sure Barcelona is quite safe to qualify for the next round. I even think that their performance in La Liga is worse than in UCL.

I hope that Xavi understands and fixes the problem, and that he passes the group stage, as you say.
Xavi must know how to solve it. He is a nice coach and he was an experienced player that often won the UCL competition. And if we look at Barcelona current position, no doubt that Barcelona will be in the next round.

713  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: November 17, 2023, 07:49:18 PM
Indeed Harry Kane didn't leave England for money but to boost his miserable career in Tottenham Hotspur which fail every time to achieve something and probably will continue like that in the near future. I find Spurs profited from letting him go as well as him.
Sure, he decided to leave because he expects a better career.
I don't think that he has a bad career in Tottenham. He was one of the most productive striker in EPL. He was also Tottenham captain, and he becomes one of the most influential player there. Although Tottenham couldn't winning any title but Harry Kane has a great individual achievement. But surely winning the title is something that he never achieved in Tottenham. That's why he finally decided to leave and move to Bayern Munich.

For Tottenham management, they could earn a big amount of money by selling Harry Kane. They can buy some good players with that money. So, they also surely get a benefit in Harry Kane's transfer.

714  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Some rich person not interest about bitcoin for following reason on: November 17, 2023, 07:38:20 PM
A friend of mine is not interested in buying Bitcoin even after learning about it.
Because according to him Bitcoin is a small number of people who have a lot of Bitcoin. They can easily go down on the bitcoin market if they want to.
First of all, there is no need to force any one to join Bitcoin investment or trading. If your friend isn't interested, it is okay. It means your friend is still not sure about Bitcoin and he doesn't understand the advantages of Bitcoin. He may already learn it, but he misses the part of the potential of Bitcoin in the future. Anyway, even if it is true that there are few people only who have a huge number of Bitcoin, it is never proven that it can destroy the market. We already experienced it for many years, and it doesn't influence much to the market activity. It is just his own assumption because he still doesn't understand enough about Bitcoin.

715  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Stop Trading on: November 17, 2023, 07:23:58 PM
The only thing that I can say is to Stop Trading if it never works for you. We can't simply assume that if some people become successful in trading, we can also be successful as well because we are not the same - our thinking and decision making is pretty different whether we like it or not. That is why even we use his strategies and ask his advice but when doing it alone, the results are truly different and that is because we differ in making decisions, especially in a crucial time.
Sure, there should be time to decide stopping trading if we already did our best and it never works well. However, before we decide to stop, we can do some efforts first. We need to ensure that we have sufficient knowledge before we trade. We must understand varied trading skills, know fundamental and technical approach, and we improve our mentality. If we already try these matters and there is no improvement in our trading, we can assume that trading isn't suitable for us. Well, we can focus on investment only, both short term and long term investment. However, when we want to invest in crypto, we need to understand the bearish-bullish cycle. So, we can determine the right time to buy coins and plan to sell the coins in the best time.

By the way, I can agree that even some people can succeed in trading, it doesn't always mean we can succeed as well. It is true that everyone has their own capability and preference, just do what we can optimize our ability. If trading only wastes our time, it is okay to leave trading and focus on investment only. Trading is an optional, it is not a must!!

716  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: November 16, 2023, 09:40:41 PM
Tottenham didn’t expect the result they got from the match, they didn’t believe Chelsea will be able to win them, Tottenham we’re expecting the match to be a easy win for them because chelsea that have not been stable this season, no one expected a win from Chelsea in the match, we all know the two red cards collect was one of the reasons why chelsea was able to win the match, but since Tottenham lost to Chelsea, they haven’t really understand themselves, their performance have been kind of poor, I know Tottenham will find it very difficult to win Aston villa, seriously the match will be kind of difficult to predict for me, but I still keep on saying it, I won’t be surprised if Aston villa win the match.
It is clear that the red card was the reason why Tottenham was defeated by Chelsea. Before Tottenham got the card, they could lead with 1 goal. Sadly, the card change everything, it ruined the tactics made by the coach. Chelsea dominated the match because the have more players in the field. They could optimize the advantage and scored 4 goals. It was a very painful lose for Tottenham.

Against Aston Villa, it won't be easy. Aston Villa is a strong team, they want to get full points to try overtaking Tottenham for the UCL zone. Tottenham is also not in a good condition because there are some players injured. I think a draw will be a fair result for both teams. However, we don't know how the match will be, but I still expect Tottenham tp get 1 point at least.

717  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: November 16, 2023, 09:26:32 PM
Yamal is a young player. He has a big ego. It's the same as Mbappe before. It's no surprise that young players really want attention and appreciation. He has to mature a little but at 16 years old I think he needs time to become more mature in his behavior. Players like Yamal need good attitude education and I think a coach like Xavi really understands that. This will be a problem if Xavi cannot solve this problem.
Since he is 16 years old, I can understand if he is still difficult to control his ego. I'm sure he will mature with more playing experience. Xavi should know how to deal with him, Xavi will give him advice. With the capability of Xavi, I no doubt he will solve the problem of Yamal's ego. I believe it should be not the first time Xavi has an egoistic player in a squad.

I don't believe Robert Lewandowski drop in performance at FC Barcelona is due to old age, I just feel like he has been finding it difficult to get acquainted with Barcelona's play pattern like when he was in Bayern Munich,~
If you followed his career in Barcelona, you must understand that he has no problem with his performance last season. If his performance is decreasing this season, it is because he got injured and he needs to take a rest for a long time. The injury is always one of the big problems for a player to maintain their good performance. After getting injured for a long time, a player can't perform in his best level immediately, it should take time.

718  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Is Bitcoin really risky as they say? on: November 16, 2023, 09:10:11 PM
Bitcoin is risky but less than other crypto related coins.
Yep. I think we all agree with this. The risk of Bitcoin investment is less that the risk of altcoins investment. Bitcoin remains the number 1 crypto coin and always survive for many years, meanwhile altcoins can change its positions in CMC and even can disappear due to various cases. There are already many altcoins delisted from exchanges.

Bitcoin as an investment for one gives you financial freedom, as no government or bank handles your transactions.
But if the government bans Bitcoin, we have no chance to invest or trade in Bitcoin. I think the government still has a crucial role. We also need banks to convert Bitcoin to fiats. We send fiats to bank accounts, right? I don't think we can have 100% financial freedom.

You can monitor investment knowledge through various searches.
What do you mean?
Do we need to monitor investment knowledge?  Huh

719  Local / Trading dan Spekulasi / Re: [DISKUSI] Harga Bitcoin on: November 16, 2023, 08:52:55 PM
Dan setelah beberapa hari yang lalu ada koreksi harga bitcoin tentunya bagi yang bisa memanfaatkan situasi tersebut sudah beruntung karena sekarang harga btc sedang naik kembali dan saya rasa bisa menembus lebih dari $38k .
Harga BTC kemaren sempat turun di harga sekitar $35k dan kembali naik lagi hari ini ke $37,900. Bahkan di Tokocrypto sudah sempat menyentuh $37,980. Namun saat ini turun kembali di rate $35k-$36k. Sepertinya memang berusaha mencapai $38,000 namun masih belum cukup kuat. Saya tidak begitu yakin BTC bisa menembus $38,000 dalam minggu ini, anggap saja akhir bulan ini bisa melewati $38k,000.

DWYOR

Kalau dari spekulasi para trader dikomunitas yang saya ikuti, ada satu skenario yang mungkin bisa terjadi dengan melihat pergerakan harga bitcoin saat ini. Skenario itu adalah, sebelum Natal, BTC mungkin bisa tembus ke $40K, kemudian, pasca natal akan terjadi koreksi ke $35K, hingga tahun baru mungkin sideway sampai halving. Setelah halving, pola mungkin sudah kembali pada tren pra-bullish yang biasanya terjadi selama 1 tahun hingga menembus ATH. Tapi, ini hanya sebatas spekulasi bukan analisa, yang mana ini menurut saya pribadi berpeluang atau masuk akal juga untuk terjadi. Karena ini hanya spekulasi maka potensi errornya juga lebih besar, jadi silakan lakukan analisa lebih lanjut untuk percaya atau tidak.
Skenarionya masuk akal kalau melihat pergerakan harga BTC saat ini. Sebelum natal bisa saja harga mampu mencapai $40k, namun biasanya di momen hari besar seperti natal harga BTC akan cenderung turun dan sangat mungkin terjadi sideway setelahnya. Tapi saya pribadi tidak begitu yakin sideway nya akan berlangsung lama sampai halving. Tetap harus ada pergerakan harga naik secara bertahap harusnya.

720  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: November 15, 2023, 09:58:44 PM
So far Bayern are only in second place, Bayer are performing very well this season and haven't lost a single match. They are separated by only one draw in the statistics, but I think if they come up against each other again, Bayern have every chance not only to win the match, but also to win the league, what can we say if they win the Bundesliga so many years in a row...
Yep. In Bundesliga standings, Bayern Munich is in 2nd place but the point gap with Leverkusen is only 2 points. I think Bayern Munich still have a big chance to win the title this season. You are right that Bayern Munich never got a lose, they only got 2 draws. Since there are many remaining matches, Bayern Munich is possible to lead again the standings if they can play consistently and improve their performance. However, it looks like there will be a tight competition for the race of the title between Bayern Munich and Leverkusen.

Moreover, if the four teams you mentioned above do not face each other in the knockout rounds, I would also like to say that the teams that will enter the semifinals will be Real Madrid, Inter Milan, Bayern Muchen and Man City. Next, the Real Madrid vs Man City team will enter the final.
Those teams you stated above are surely strong teams in UCL this season. So, I can agree if they are very possible to reach semi final round. But we can't underestimate other teams like Barcelona, Atletico Madrid, and Arsenal. I think these teams also have the chance to beat those favorite teams. By the way, for the final round, it will be quite difficult to predict but I assume the ideal final is Man City vs Bayern Munich.

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