Sure, just bring them that campus picture and see if they bite. Although they bought the iraki WMD fairytale, so everything is possible  I am assuming that the devs are genuine, in which case the media will bite. I would agree, however, that the photos raise suspicions rather than soothes them - probably better to lose them. |
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I was on the settings from the darkcoin settings, took half an hour to even get it to function, then it ran for about ten minutes and popped. Two others showed as overheating but they were not. Now they hash lower than before and the other one is just dead. It's not just me. Google it.
I wasn't even at any decent speeds running.
Yea, it was my card... And all the other cards that I keep now reading about getting fried, after searching to find out why mine fried.
That is running cooler because it is doing less. Run scrypt cooler and it does less. Sorry, but it is over. Those who can mine, might, those who can't, will just avoid it. It is only GPU friendly to the cards it works on.
Not taking that risk on more cards. They run fine on scrypt.
yeah uh.. i googled 'darkcoin gpu broken' and 'hirocoin' and 'x11 broken GPU' and yeah no results. Strange what you are describing sounds a lot more like what people have had happen with Vertcoin, never heard of it with Darkcoin algo, I will need to look into this. What do you mean by doing less? My gpu's hash 4x more using the sgminer for x11.
"Doing less"... it was hashing faster, but that is not "scrypt hash", it is doing the other hash faster, because that does less, so it calculates with different results. Takes less time to do it. But anyways, that would be like saying sha256 is "faster" because the hash-rate is measured differently. It isn't any faster, just different. My hash-rates started out fast, then slowed down to a crawl, then it shut down two cards and the third one just popped. The GPU is burnt-up with a brown hole on one corner, just off-center. Maybe they are using one of the scrypts from them. I don't know what vert uses. However I only got into one block, before it fried. Not sure which scrypt it was, but it didn't appear to heat up my other cards, just my powercolor 7970's. I don't have time to get into troubleshooting, or re-configuring all my tuned miners for more "special coins". These cards will have a new home anyways, soon. What I have left. (Powercolors are about 80% of my cards.) Thanks for checking-up... But I am sorry. This just isn't for me now. Too much of a risk and hassle coin. Too many changes, too fast, without consideration to even ask... "Hey, guys doing the money-draining work, and holding the majority of investment... What do you think about us doing this..." Just wake-up and poof, reward halved and decaying earnings on top of decaying returns from mining growth, and falling prices. That is five negatives in a row, and no positives. I re-evaluated the situation, and made a final determination that I can no longer support the cause. Apparently, I am not the only one with that belief. yeah that's not X11's fault, that's the VRM's failing and giving your card WAY too many volts. i agree 100% with that second last line though ... absolutely no input from the community, even if what they're doing is right. Trust me.....they are in a position like Harvard MBA's [endless offers, many refusals] They may not be saying and holding back but if they are who they say they are[ and I believe them ] then one call and they are on Bloomberg, CNBC or FoxBusiness. Its the way of the world and not something regular folk can comprehend. I just hope they 'continue' to get their act together and refuse any such interviews until the time is right.I cant believe the University of Chicago allowed you guys to use the University name....as in the home of Milton Friedman [father of Monetarism & Noble prize winner]  I will hold my AIRcoin even though its 1/2 its expected debut price. I'm pretty sure 1 phone call and you are all in/on Forbes, CNBC, Bloomberg. I hope you guys would turn down any such interview. This is a very good point, I would have thought there was real journalistic interest in a project like this..... has someone made the call? now THAT part is easily answered with that not being the right time yet.. it's too soon for that level of attention. Trust me.....they are in a position like Harvard MBA's [endless offers, many refusals] They may not be saying and holding back but if they are who they say they are[ and I believe them ] then one call and they are on Bloomberg, CNBC or FoxBusiness. Its the way of the world and not something regular folk can comprehend. I just hope they 'continue' to get their act together and refuse any such interviews until the time is right.I cant believe the University of Chicago allowed you guys to use the University name....as in the home of Milton Friedman [father of Monetarism & Noble prize winner] I will hold my AIRcoin even though its 1/2 its expected debut price. I'm pretty sure 1 phone call and you are all in/on Forbes, CNBC, Bloomberg. I hope you guys would turn down any such interview. This is a very good point, I would have thought there was real journalistic interest in a project like this..... has someone made the call? Everybody's logic seems skewed this morning, or maybe it's me, what is your thinking behind delaying any potential exposure in the MSM? it would make the coin out of control for the forseeable future.. loads of buy orders, dumps, a massive amount of new hash rate that the reward isn't calculating for... it has to be stable enough before getting 'big'. Too soon? It has to be alive to be stable, the media silence on this coin has been it's biggest problem and is the main reason that targets have been completely missed. |
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Trust me.....they are in a position like Harvard MBA's [endless offers, many refusals] They may not be saying and holding back but if they are who they say they are[ and I believe them ] then one call and they are on Bloomberg, CNBC or FoxBusiness.
you guys are serious ? Let me take you some pictures from all parisian universities today too, I'm president of all of them, trust me  No one cares about the retard Chicago part (and most of that Friedman/Hayek/school of chicago shit is ridiculed these days and even considered pretty much the root of all evil in the rest of the world by now, but that's another story ^^ ) ,buy orders are close to non existent, it they can come up with something CONCRETE today, like their x11 revamped thingie , that's good, otherwise, game over, as most think it already is. The "retard Chjcago part" is a good story for the media, whether you think so or not. |
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Trust me.....they are in a position like Harvard MBA's [endless offers, many refusals] They may not be saying and holding back but if they are who they say they are[ and I believe them ] then one call and they are on Bloomberg, CNBC or FoxBusiness. Its the way of the world and not something regular folk can comprehend. I just hope they 'continue' to get their act together and refuse any such interviews until the time is right.I cant believe the University of Chicago allowed you guys to use the University name....as in the home of Milton Friedman [father of Monetarism & Noble prize winner] I will hold my AIRcoin even though its 1/2 its expected debut price. I'm pretty sure 1 phone call and you are all in/on Forbes, CNBC, Bloomberg. I hope you guys would turn down any such interview. This is a very good point, I would have thought there was real journalistic interest in a project like this..... has someone made the call? Everybody's logic seems skewed this morning, or maybe it's me, what is your thinking behind delaying any potential exposure in the MSM? |
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Strange what you are describing sounds a lot more like what people have had happen with Vertcoin, never heard of it with Darkcoin algo, I will need to look into this. What do you mean by doing less? My gpu's hash 4x more using the sgminer for x11.
"Doing less"... it was hashing faster, but that is not "scrypt hash", it is doing the other hash faster, because that does less, so it calculates with different results. Takes less time to do it. But anyways, that would be like saying sha256 is "faster" because the hash-rate is measured differently. It isn't any faster, just different. My hash-rates started out fast, then slowed down to a crawl, then it shut down two cards and the third one just popped. The GPU is burnt-up with a brown hole on one corner, just off-center. Maybe they are using one of the scrypts from them. I don't know what vert uses. However I only got into one block, before it fried. Not sure which scrypt it was, but it didn't appear to heat up my other cards, just my powercolor 7970's. I don't have time to get into troubleshooting, or re-configuring all my tuned miners for more "special coins". These cards will have a new home anyways, soon. What I have left. (Powercolors are about 80% of my cards.) Thanks for checking-up... But I am sorry. This just isn't for me now. Too much of a risk and hassle coin. Too many changes, too fast, without consideration to even ask... "Hey, guys doing the money-draining work, and holding the majority of investment... What do you think about us doing this..." Just wake-up and poof, reward halved and decaying earnings on top of decaying returns from mining growth, and falling prices. That is five negatives in a row, and no positives. I re-evaluated the situation, and made a final determination that I can no longer support the cause. Apparently, I am not the only one with that belief. I have to question your logic here, you are getting out when the price is at it's lowest and there are developments on the horizon? Particularly after you have spent a few weeks on this thread extolling the longer term potential of Air. |
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I cant believe the University of Chicago allowed you guys to use the University name....as in the home of Milton Friedman [father of Monetarism & Noble prize winner] I will hold my AIRcoin even though its 1/2 its expected debut price. I'm pretty sure 1 phone call and you are all in/on Forbes, CNBC, Bloomberg. I hope you guys would turn down any such interview. This is a very good point, I would have thought there was real journalistic interest in a project like this..... has someone made the call? |
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Good to see only a few falling for this shit a second time around.
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Please wait patiently. I assure you, no body has anything to worry about.
The dev team has everything under control. Stay tuned for good news folks.
Who are you? I'm just a supporter of AIR. I addressed the concerns of the forum to Team members earlier today. We had a long discussion. I won't say it, He is writing the announcement as we speak. I shared many of the concerns of most of you, but our conversation cleared everything up. They truly have been listening all along, and i still believe they have this under control. ALL of your concerns will be addressed shortly... Disclaimer : I AM NOT PART OF TEAM AIR COIN, MERELY A SUPPORTER LUCKY ENOUGH TO BE BLESSED WITH A CONVERSATION WITH TEAM MEMBERS Can confirm...Was there. Anyone selling now might just end up having a crappy day. Fair play you guys, thanks for letting us know. |
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Please wait patiently. I assure you, no body has anything to worry about.
The dev team has everything under control. Stay tuned for good news folks.
sounds like Saddam Hussein defense minister claiming victory is near while US Tanks were rushing to Baghdad Comical Ali - he was great, we could use him here |
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Please wait patiently. I assure you, no body has anything to worry about.
The dev team has everything under control. Stay tuned for good news folks.
I don't mean to sound sarcastic, but you can read platitudes like that in the thread of every failed coin - often posted by the bagholders themselves. As I have said before, I would be far more confident if I thought Air team were keeping this technology to themselves - I completely fail to comprehend the sense in allowing others access to the system so early in the game. I'm hoping someone can enlighten me. |
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Agreed, there could be much more buy support from the altcoin community at large with better PR and media releases. I like the transparency report and was lucky enough to be on the Polo trollbox when it was announced, but unless you are in this forum or on Polo, good luck running into any laymen's info on why this is a good investment.
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Sussex, I hear you, I suppose that it may be a matter of utilizing existing community support and "infrastructure" of sorts. That was what I was eluding to in the last sentence there.
Also, based on the initial .0015 valuation: "Allied Investors trading floor, utilizing existing Cryptocurrency markets, can increase the rate by 5% per week. This approximately doubles the exchange rate every 3 months."
The jump to .0025 was not expected by me to stick around. By this calculation the drop to .001575 yesterday would still be at about 5%, so I can't help but feel that there has been some panic and that the current price will rebound when people come to there senses about what the expected returns and rate of return is. supposed to be.
I also think the price will go up (sans collaboration) in the near future, but in the meantime I could be licking my wounds elsewhere and come back to Air if/when it bursts into life. The media is the biggest problem (bigger than the block reward thing), the devs don't seem as savvy in regards to PR and publicity as they do at math. Edit: It's just hit .00095. Can the BTC pool cope with this sustained downward pressure? I doubt it...... in fact, is it already exhausted? |
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I think a dev response to the collaboration issue is needed.
The collaboration is basically you give them your BTC for their premined AIR. Looks like they have run out of BTC to prop up the price or they have cashed out and leave people like you in the cold. Amazing how the faceless men can make money from thin air, done and dusted. Hahaha, a brand new account... what's you more usual handle? You don't even understand the collaboration we are talking about, at least take the time to read up on your latest trolling project, otherwise you could look silly. The price is down and the trolls smell blood - good sport |
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There nothing the DEV's or anyone can do now... people started to panic!! everybody will be dumping and I'm sure someone will profit with it, someone is playing his cards right now.. As for me I will hold on and let the storm go away. (nothing else i can do really  It's not panic. It's common sense. The trend has been down and has fallen outside of the parameters the devs said they could maintain - I'm at the crossover point between a profit and a loss, what would be the sensible thing for me to do? Taking the collaboration thing into account as well, my choice seems clear - sell Air and buy into EMC2 which is the coin they are collaborating with, has a more active community and whose price is presently rising. What's needed is a media push, people don't easily understand the coin's mechanics and need educating. Where is the media guy the devs were willing to postpone the launch for? Doesn't seem he's been very busy. One last thing, for now, perhaps the thread title shouldn't say "19th Largest Cryptocoin by Marketcap", because it's not. Misleading statements are what helped Maza get to where it is. Couldn't holders of EMC2 (i have mined and bought EMC2 also) use the inverse reasoning? It seems that the comment made by the Dev would imply that it would be a two way street, where AIR would benefit from the EMC2 devs efforts as well. Is this not what people are reading into it? I agree that that "19th Largest Cryptocoin by Marketcap" claim can be damaging and should be changed immediately. I wholeheartedly agree that "what's needed is a media push, people don't easily understand the coin's mechanics and need educating." Perhaps this is what the EMC2 devs can help bring to the table with the combined efforts and communities? "Additionally, the AIRcoin team has begun to collaborate with development teams of other coins to bring the investment system to other innovative Altcoins, particularly ones that use the money they generate to fund scientific, philanthrophic, or other beneficial endeavors." Sounds like a one-way street to me, I can't see what EMC2 could offer the Air devs that they couldn't do for themselves. |
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these guys that participate in operation shitcoin needs to be called out...they are picking the winners and losers...
Besides the fact that their idea of what a shitcoin is, and isn't is, is rather broad, their motives are really, really suspect. The OP of that shitcoin thread used to make shitcoins himself. That may be the reason he posted an exclusion on coins older than 8 months old. His coins were just as bad as the ones they want to bring down. The other fellow who is so eager to kill shitcoins ran OpenEx, cheated people out of bitcoins, and to many people, is considered a scammer himself. It's really a weird thread there. And either they wish to profit by putting money back into more established coins that they own, or have some other reason that benefits them. They certainly aren't doing it to protect anyone. It's rare that I can agree with a post on the maza thread, so I'll jump at the opportunity - you're right, these self-appointed nazi's are behaving in an even shittier way than the shitcoins they claim to police, even shittier than maza.......... sorry, couldn't resist  |
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There nothing the DEV's or anyone can do now... people started to panic!! everybody will be dumping and I'm sure someone will profit with it, someone is playing his cards right now.. As for me I will hold on and let the storm go away. (nothing else i can do really It's not panic. It's common sense. The trend has been down and has fallen outside of the parameters the devs said they could maintain - I'm at the crossover point between a profit and a loss, what would be the sensible thing for me to do? Taking the collaboration thing into account as well, my choice seems clear - sell Air and buy into EMC2 which is the coin they are collaborating with, has a more active community and whose price is presently rising. What's needed is a media push, people don't easily understand the coin's mechanics and need educating. Where is the media guy the devs were willing to postpone the launch for? Doesn't seem he's been very busy. One last thing, for now, perhaps the thread title shouldn't say "19th Largest Cryptocoin by Marketcap", because it's not. Misleading statements are what helped Maza get to where it is. |
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The two of you are misunderstanding me. I am not doubting that there are legitimate problems/concerns, etc. I am simply stating that there are things that were promised that they have come through on, including some things not promised, such as more transparency. I never said "trust the devs." You are selectively reading my comment. I will say it again, you have every right to express the concerns and contribute to the improvement of the coin. This includes criticism. Again THIS INCLUDES CRITICISM. I am just trying to say that there is no point in not approaching it in a constructive manner. Focusing on some of the potential of this coin while shedding light on the problems may help you avoid pushing the prices down further. "FUD" is very real and what you have to say contributes to it if not done with a level head. Now, there were reasons you were attracted to this investment in the first place, right? Lay out where you would like to see this go and mention what you believe the barriers to "furthering" success to be. This is a discussion forum after all. I do not intend to inflict harm on anyone's ego. I hear you. I just ask that you consider that others hold this investment and wish to take steps forward if we fall back, not take two more steps back with self inflicted wounds.
I am not "misunderstanding" you at all. In fact, I haven't even addressed you once. I am unclear why you are lecturing me about any of this -- Have you actually read any of these posts? I just got done buying AIR and I therefore obviously liked it (as I said in my previous posts!). But, this "collaboration" stuff is BS and I am not going to pretend that it is not. And, as I just bought my first AIR coins a mere couple of hours ago, I have no reason to want the coin to go down in value. It is a problem and a serious one. Now, maybe their efforts are somehow going to benefit AIR coin directly and if that is the case, I am all ears. Otherwise it is a serious problem that needs to be addressed, whether you consider it talking down the coin or not. I also think this "collaboration stuff" is questionable, surely Air should be up on it's feet before embarking on another experiment? I am open to any explanations that this will help Aircoin, but I am failing to see how it can. EDIT: Ok, I have been out all evening and have just looked at the price on Poloniex for the first time - I'm disappointed, the price has been hovering around .001 for a while. Sorry to say it, but I should have dumped - my investment has halved. I won't make that mistake again. So, I am holding several thousands of Air, watched the price halve and there is talk of giving/selling the ONLY unique selling point of Air to other coins who already have selling points of their own (why would I invest in Air if the same performance can be gained on other, already vaguely popular coins?) - it's fair to say I am now considering my position, as it stands now I can get out with a small profit. |
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Heres a link to a multipool that intends to mine AIR and dump for VERT.. What can we do to stop this? AIR is too young to be manipulated like that !! http://www.verters.com/multivertBlasphemy. This will not be good for AIR if people mine on it. There is a new wallet due soon, so there will be new source. As I understand it, pools need the source to operate, so............ |
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The music started, I shut my browser and I will never return.
I fucking hate sites with sound.
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Hey guys I've been mining at air.ctrlaltdefeated and this message just popped up so i figured i would let every one know about it. "Probably going to shut this pool down today instead of upgrading to the new wallet. If you guys would please start withdrawing your coins so that I don't need to manually pay everyone out it would be appreciated."
ffs seriously @ctrlaltdefeated ? you suck! Just signed up and started mining on Carbonshark and Cryptopool no problems and they have a lower hashrate so are good choices to spread the hash out more evenly. I won't be using any ctrlaltdefeated pools again, it sounded like a hissy fit. Wow thats a bit unwarranted. Both you guys have had 0 fee's for as long as the pool has been around. I've just started a second job and don't have time to maintain pools any longer. If one of the miners hadn't brought the wallet update to my attention I likely wouldn't have even known and we probably would have forked. Would you have preffered that happen instead? Air is the only one of my pools that has any hashrate at all and taking a look at my server cost it was fast becoming an expensive hobby. As far as a "mature" response goes, There's not a whole lot I can fit into that small message box that gets the point across and doesn't make me sound like an asshole. Thanks for the appreciation though. Errr, no, I was mining at 1% and donating 1%, as I always do. My problem was with the tone of your announcement. No explanation and it sounded like you were pissed off at the coin or the miners. Anyway, fair enough if you're too busy, but it might have been an idea to express that on the pool, I apologise for getting on my high horse (I look good on a horse ) |
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