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741  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling crying thread on: November 24, 2016, 02:21:03 PM
Cry i've lost .2 bitcoins today in poker. because of greediness it led me up to losing. i wish i could bring back my money. its so hard to get that money this days. maybe i would start to quit gambling and play sometimes with a lowbet amount and put some target. but even i have a target when iloss too much i would still play to bring that back .
Hahaha nice shot that you are lose 0.2bitcoins today and hoping that soon you will get them back and don't make it rush everything happened for a reason and let's get some rest and you learn your lesson now don't be greedy when you are in gambling you know the consenquenses.
Its not really an ideal thing to chase your lose and its not recommendable to do such thing because you will definitely lose even more for sure. Better to forget on what amount you have been lost in the past and  start a new day with a new betting style and for sure you will already know your past mistakes and you will not  do it again on next games.Greediness will surely lead you to lose because betting styles will be distracted.
I agree.. just play smart and don't think or dwell on your loses because you might get pressured when you gambling. Just play and win at least small bets because once you continue to win even with small amounts in the long you might paid off your loses.
742  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: High bet amounts or low bet amounts? What is your style? on: November 24, 2016, 02:15:32 PM
I wonder if you just play for the fun with small amounts or if you roll big sums in hope to win a lot? What is your method?
Mostly is low bet amounts but sometimes in high bet amount when i got feeling good and had much fund to spend in gamble, but the reason mostly in low bet amounts is just won't to get big lose
Yes, when you place small bets and you lose you can still have more time to catch up to win rather than placing bigger bets. If you really look for fun and with little bit of winning.. just also place smaller bets for you to play more.
743  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can gambling be profitable in long term ? on: November 24, 2016, 02:02:01 PM
Yes i just played for 15 hours straight and i made some good profit in the end if you are going to think and always revise your strategies make sure that you are not greedy when you are loosing too much gambling is need patience and don't it to be rush gambling can really be a profitable in a long term of playing.

That's good to know that you have made some good profit out of that 15 hours straight and it made productive to you. And your advise is helpful, because many greed people thinking that gambling is really a profitable activity in the long run which is somehow true but that depends on how they will take it. Because out of that aim makes them more greedy which fall into not profitable so they usually say that it is just profitable for short term.
What if your lose in your 15 hours straight gambling?

I guess it's a waste of time and money as well. I have been gambling for years but I not do that kind of time spent in gambling, I can still do a lot of more productive things. It will make your frustrate if the opposite outcome happened.

Indeed mate.. but I think he profits more than losing and I think it made his day worth for gambling.. but I agree, 15 hours is too long to spent for me.. if you have your own family that's not really fine because you have a lot of things to tend to for your family.. but if you live by yourself, then it's a good time to spent.
744  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling loses and wins on: November 24, 2016, 01:56:59 PM
So.... how much have you win or loss gambling ?? And what did you stake ?
I've lost about $60 so far but im planning to win it back. Pigs get fat and hogs get slaughtered.
A saying well said, however i still need to learn it since my greed is my downfall. Guys and girls
how much money have you made or lost gambling ? Any pointers or warnings ? 
I always playing in gambling with small capital let's say that im going to play with the capital of 0.015 of bitcoin and then if i turn it into 0.03 or double it i just stop playing gambling i don't try to push my luck when i already when then i stop i don't want to take my profit back or get again set goal is always a matter.

Really you are treating 0.015 BTC as small capital? That is even my biggest or maximum amount of gambling. And that is the best thing to do, when we are able to make our capital double then that's the right time to stop. Because if you will aim to make it tripled then you will also have another problem for it, just don't expect too much and aim too much.

Yup 0.015 BTC is not a small capital, and it's around 10 to 12$ bet this is a big amount for me. And doubling your amount to get back your loss or to increase your profit that is the best time to stop your play. Otherwise, it will take us to make our wallet empty. In gambling whatever comes, we just accept that we don't expect more.

That's true, because if we are not going to get contented on how much we won for that capital it will just lead us into more losing and discouraging results as we gamble. That amount for us, who really can afford to lose because our resources are just limited but I saw some high rollers in dice sites who are even betting whole BTC and luckily able to win higher than we are expecting.
The thing is we do not have the same betting amount of other gamblers because we do not have the same status in life, if they can afford bet a whole bitcoin then they also have a bigger chance to win bigger amount. We have to accept that and let us not follow their path as we are unique individuals.

Yes, everyone here is unique and we have our own styles or methods towards gambling. We can't compare our style from one another, our status in life as well is different so the way we treat money is also different from one another. We just have to learn to control ourselves the way we gamble to avoid getting too much loses than winning.
745  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Biggest Loss Ever. on: November 24, 2016, 01:51:00 PM
for the moment as long as I know my biggest defeat gambling is just around 0:06 so bitcoin. but if the total of the day I've experienced a lot of the biggest defeats of 0.3 bitcoin. first bitcoin prices as now. I like crazy in the first place bet

That is a big loss... Maybe you should decrease your bet a little or stop the game before lose this big money.
Sometimes this game is very dangerous, if you lose control over your bets the house make you lose everything. Keep improving your skills and the chances to this happen again will be lower.
Once anyone had real experience in gambling like this they will not repeat it once again. if they repeat means I think they are out of control. Yes, the gambling is very dangerous especially in slot games. Suppose if we are in the long run win we can not control our play. It will make us lose everything in the end. So be careful while you are playing the long run. I never lost huge money like 0.3 BTC. My loss is very less.

Yes, me too, because I don't let my bets reach to such high number to lose all in one click. If I see the profit isn't coming I just retreat and try again another hour, change the method or change the casino. It works for me.
The important is to make profit on long run, maybe one or another day I can have a loss, but counting all days the profit must be positive.

If that works for you then it's really a good method on your end mate.. I'm also doing almost the same thing because I'm really afraid to lose a lot of my bitcoins and that's bad for me, it's not easy to earn those bitcoins and just use it in gambling Smiley
746  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: US Election - gains/loses on: November 24, 2016, 01:42:37 PM

For the americans it might not surprising at all trump can win the election.
But for most people around the world , it was shocking unexpected result.
All media around the world almost sure no chance for trump to win over hillary clinton, too bad it was wrong.

I think you are correct with your observation. Another is Hillary was a media favorite, because of her influences and her backer. Trump is very  talkative and frank. He is like a no nonsense leader. I think Trump is good for US Economy.

It's really a shocking result for the majority of the people. They thought that Hillary will get a landslide victory but it turns out the other way around. Yeah hopefully Trump will bring back the good balance in their country's economy.
747  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to stay away from gambling? suggestions ? on: November 24, 2016, 01:35:33 PM

A person who knows how to control his own emotion will make him feel crazy when he is losing a big money as he plays and that is going to be a big deal even he is a good in controlling himself. And if someone is not really helping himself to stay away from gambling and doesn't do anything then that will be also a factor that can make him a gambling slave.
True, it is also depend of a willingness of an addicted person if they really wanted to stay away in gambling, because for me once you don't have willingness your plan to stay away will always be useless. We also need the help of the advice of other people so that we can hear their sides on how to really stop playing gambling.

I agree with this.. unless we do something for our self, then that is the time we can change our lives. Change is huge, change is complex, change is beautiful, change is hard .... but change is vital. If we want to change our lives and be out of addiction, then we need to something changed.
And I wanna add something, we cannot change with ourselves alone, we need the guidance from above and most especially from our family. They are the one who sees our real  situation and will encourage us to change and hopefully we see and be inspire of their support to us.

Our families always be there - they will be there for us no matter what.. they will be our last refuge when things got really messy.. They are one of our most important part of our lives that we need to nurture and take a lot of care..

If you are trouble into gambling better to consult your family for their guidance don't be afraid to tell them your story. They will understand your situation regarding on your addiction if you are into gambling. Your family will always be your last resort if you messed up in life. Yes family is most important part of our live they will never be apart to us that is why we are here right now. If you do something bad obviously your whole family will be affected from your bad things that your doing. That is why treasure them as gold don't let them suffer from your selfishness.

Yeah your family will always understand you.. it's just how your willing to give up gambling. Advise from your family is just a word that will help you to stay away from gambling but it's still on you, your actions will still matters.
748  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to play gambling in a smart way? on: November 24, 2016, 01:21:59 PM
Some facts about gambling if you want to play smart way

1. Consider your goals. Do you want the thrill of winning one big chunk, or would you rather win several smaller pots? Do you need to make a particular amount of money, or is simply playing for a while and coming out ahead enough? How high do the stakes need to be? Are you just looking to have fun in an exciting, social setting? Don't just gamble for no reason—decide before you start what you want to get out of it.

2. Know which games to avoid. If you want to have a chance of coming out ahead, you need to pick a game that offers you decent odds. (Avoid roulette, keno and slots. These games involve very little skill, and the house always has an enormous advantage. Lottery tickets might tempt you with the potential of enormous jackpots, but your chances of winning are astronomically low.)

3. Learn the games. If you don't know the rules, you might as well throw your money away. Learning all the rules and nuances of a game helps you understand the odds and bet strategically, not just randomly. Don't trust the casino or other players to explain the rules in a clear and complete way—it may be to their advantage

MOST IMPORTANT is PRACTICE
Even if you memorize the rules, playing is the best way to really learn how a game works. So before you put any money on the line, get together with friends and play practice hands until you know the rhythm and flow of the game.



This is a good read mate.. though it's not 100% guaranteed for winning but still will give you the edge to win. Knowledge in the game is the key to success.. if you don't have these definitely you'll end up losing.
749  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can I use my small amount for GAMBLING? on: November 24, 2016, 01:15:47 PM
How am I going to use may small btc? Can somebody hep me to use this in profitable earning here..
Its hard to decide if where can I put the risk.
Thanks..
For me is trading safe than gambling but invest only in a good coin not on the shitcoin

Trading is good if you really know the basics and know to read the charts.

In gambling, If you want to have fun and entertainment you can do dice games or slot machines where you can also put a small amount for betting.. just play what you can afford to lose.. otherwise it will hurt you're feelings losing all your BTC in gambling.
750  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling vs Betting on: November 24, 2016, 01:09:06 PM
When betting - either sportsbetting or betting in poker, you get to decide/pick your spots that are +EV situations (subjective in sportsbetting, of course). In gambling, not so much.
I am sorry but I was not able to snip out your explanation, in my own knowledge regardless of the type of games as long as there is money involve it is considered as gambling, now since sports betting involves money then it's obviously gambling.

I don't even understand what he intends to say, what I just understand is you are explaining betting and games that you can bet.

And stadus is right, and for me there's no difference if we are going to compare betting and gambling. Besides betting is a type of activity for gambling.

So if you play and you are wagering your money betting it, that's gambling.



Yeah that's what I think as well.. this is a good explanation about gambling vs betting.. they are both the same because both have valuables or money at stake.. I'm lost with the first explanation.
751  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Everyone looses in the long run on: November 24, 2016, 01:04:38 PM
As i played tonight i just realize that yes this is really true when you are trying to keep playing while you earn much profit from gambling and trying to earn more in the end you will end it up loosing it everything soo the real issue is you need to withdraw your bitcoin while your lucky because once you lose it you gonna lose it again for ever.

Once you lost it, you lost it forever, there is no coming back my friend or 'again' for that. For me, luck is the absence of skill, if you don't mind.
It would be lost  forever and it is on the  pocket of the website owner or  being won by the  other lucky player. Thats the essence of gambling on which all money have been lost is directly to the  house and some of it to the lucky players. Everyone really losses on the  long run thats why we should aware ourselves on when to stop especially when we are on the  green side.

That's the cycle of gambling, we are in the top of the circle and as the game goes round we are just going to roll and be in the bottom.

And again, you can be on top again but that is just for a short time and most of the time you will just surely lose for the house edge has always the advantage.

So if you are wise enough that you know this is how gambling works, you might just stop or moderate the way you gamble.

That's true.. learn to be content once you have a your winnings then go home and try another day.. because for sure you'll ended up losing if you continue to gamble.. most gamblers don't do this way they tend to be greedy and of course they still ended up bankrupt.
752  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is GAMBLING? on: November 24, 2016, 12:57:28 PM
I think gambling is a game. Because the gambling we have to play by placing bets in advance. So gambling is a game that requires luck. Gambling can be considered a business by the owners of gambling sites. Because they will get great profits from the business gambling sites they have. But in general gambling is a game, we should bet before then we will win or lose.

I just don't even think that gambling is a game because I knew it that it is a game, a game of luck where your money will be wagered and it depends upon your luck if you are going to win on specific game that you'll bet. And my another meaning gambling, it is one of the reason why many people are becoming wrecked for not being a responsible player of it.

It's a game were you have to put your money and place it as bets. Most games in gambling gives us 50/50 chance of winning.. you have to predict the outcome of the game and mostly needed your luck to win. Whereas sports betting is different it requires your skills and most gamblers do more on sports betting because the chance of winning is really high especially if you're familiar with the sports and the team, etc. So for me, gambling is a game which has a part of investment.
753  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is it a sin to gamble? on: November 23, 2016, 04:33:42 PM
No its not and pretty sure it wont going to be a sin
That is the truth, because we cannot blame gambling for our lose as we know already how risky gambling is. We need to understand that we are being advise to play for fun so we do not have the right to call gambling as wrong after every lose. Let's be fair.
That's a good point. Some people always blame something or someone if they make a mistake for themselves.. even if they do gambling with their own will they still put the blame on someone. that's the reality. We have to learn to accept of getting losing and not to blame someone.
754  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to win gambling with no lose? on: November 23, 2016, 04:21:38 PM
That is just too impossible except if you cheat. You will always lose and the house will always win. That is why it is provably fair. Just to make it sound inviting to gamblers.
Right you are it is impossible to win without losing in gambling because the site owner will not let it happen. And also because winning and losing in gambling normal because it was a game. Unless you cheat, you can win without losing.
I agree gambling is just a game and winning and losing are just part of it but how we can say winning continuously without losses must be a cheat. In a game, winning continuously is also possible we cannot call that as a cheat. Moreover, a reputed gambling site owners will definitely will allow that to happen.
If playing gambling without any loss is really possible and i agree with you hes really cheating or found some bugs on the website which you could able to get money as much as you can but it doesnt last long because owner will surely trace you out and about that bug but its not really ideal thing to do because its considered as stealing for  me better to report bugs for bounties which is somehow a legal thing.More over theres no other thing or way which we can play gambling without loss.
Definitely, a gambling site will notice it because they will not allow to lose as that is their business and main goal is to be profitable. I would not expect that someone can do that as it is almost impossible to do it. Better accept the reality and play for fun.

Yeah, also i never see anyone who play gambling continuously without loss and also anyone can cheat the house, For me, it is impossible, no one can cheat it easily, and also one one can win without lose in gambling.
Should accept the reality and reality is that gambling without lose impossible, even all games depend on lose or win, So why gambling has no? 

We can't really cheat or even beat the house itself.. It will give you some winnings but can't really beat it.. We always lose in gambling even if we say that we have a method or strategy to always win it's really not possible.


755  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is their any safe methods to gamble? on: November 23, 2016, 03:56:35 PM
Yes there are so many methods for playing safe in gambling, for example when you bet 0.04bitcoin into a dice game and won(1.90x) why not quit while you have the given money. That is already a huge sum of money if you convert it to FIAT. Then come back for tomorrow to play again to avoid to avoid unnecessary outcome if you continue to roll. Use your head when you are playing over your emotion, when your emotion controls you while you are losing better to cool off. Quit for a while then continue if you are on your mind.
Indeed mate.. it's just a matter of how you control your money when you gamble. And your strategy / methods should vary on each casino games and don't be aggressive when you place bets. Just learn to control your emotions especially when you lose.
756  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Putting money in lottery is gambling too? on: November 23, 2016, 03:35:59 PM
Hello everyone, so I joined freebitcoin about a week ago, I can afford to buy around 500-1000 lottery tickets. But when I see last round the first winner has just 120 tickets but other winners got 10000+ tickets, if I buy around 1000 tickets, will it be worth and is it like gambling? Will it be addictive? Guys please tell me that lottery is second form of gambling or not?

More entries more chances of winning. Its just like testing if it is really for you then it will be yours no matter what . Lottery is a gambling too any game or activity that involves betting or choosing that involves any big or small amount of money us a gambling. It just on the for of how addicting the game or bets can be that it makes gambling bad.

I have used freebitcoin and they do pay out users without any problems. I have not won any lottery from them. I have heard people winning. Purchasing lottery tickets is a gamble and you may or may not get addicted. So, be careful when you do that. Buying tickets doesn't guarantee anything, so try out the lo hi game.

Yes lottery gives you a very slim chance to win. And if you still play lottery in the long run definitely you will lose a lot of money.. better try other types of gambling like sports betting, chances of winning is higher though the wage is low compared to lottery.
757  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is your aim in gambling???? on: November 23, 2016, 03:27:48 PM
of course everyone's goals in gambling is for profit, but on the other hand is very much trapped in the flow of addiction and dependency owned gambling. I always aim to benefit immensely from bitcoin, but I prefer to enjoy the pleasure in it, so if the results are not what I want, it does not make me stress

Indeed true. Why stress ourselves too much? I just enjoy doing it trying out like if today is lucky day thing. If its not then I won then thanks and if not stop. Better try next time. I usually set bounded limits if i think i have lose too much or win too much bounded in my limits i convince myself to really stop.

That's good for you mate if you play just for fun not hoping to get rich. Some gamblers really like to play to make a profit and most of them didn't end up well and make their life worst. I also do gambling just for fun and that's it.. whether if I win or lose a little amount of my money it doesn't matter.
758  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are you Rich from Gambling? on: November 23, 2016, 03:21:53 PM
Well I can't buy Ferrari from my winnings but I can have a good holidays and that is super cool for me

I wish I could buy ferrari from my winnings also. But I can say that I'm not rich from gambling and I can't even get good amount of money in gambling. What I am just doing is gamble what I afford to lose and doesn't hope for any big amount of return. I guess those people who are becoming rich from gambling are those people who are really lucky.

Yeah those people are one in a million who get rich in gambling. And I'm not one of those lucky ones. I just gamble for fun and sometimes to kill time but still learned to manage my money and know when to stop. But still hoping to win in a lottery so I could be rich.
759  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why is gambling so addicting? on: November 23, 2016, 03:08:28 PM
For me it's only addicting when I win
The opposite is right, it usually only addicts you when you lose.
Your only desire after that is to return the money you just lost before, everybody says to themself "I will just return the money I lost and I will quit from gambling forever".
If they return it successfully, then they will keep betting until they get into serious problems, and if they didn't cover the loses, then they will do the same(keep betting and betting).

Gambling is dangerous at either ways, if you are winning or losing cause you will always lose at the long run

Yeah it will be addicting regardless if you win or lose.. but most gamblers are addictive in gambling because they want to chase their loses. And it's good for you if you always win but still remember that it's not forever, you just have to learn to control yourself when you gamble.
760  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin can not replace fiat on: November 23, 2016, 02:47:53 PM
Bitcoin need fiat and fiat need bitcoin this is just a cycle this both need everyone it's like in relationship you need a boyfriend and you need a girlfriend you can live without girlfriend but in the end you will find one and it will leave you again but there are going to change and it still you have boyfriend and for this bitcoin can't replace fiat how ever fiat has already a big contribute in bitcoin economi
Fiat doesn't need bitcoin. Fiat has been there even without bitcoins. It was the most used form of money even when bitcoin wasn't there. It's more like a one-sided love, bitcoin needs fiat. Without fiat, we can't measure the value of bitcoin. It would just be 1BTC=1BTC. The pricing would all be in BTC and never in USD or any other fiat currency. However, I don't know how come fiat has a big contribution in the bitcoin economy. Can you please elaborate that part?
Indeed mate.. Fiat has been there with us ever since and bitcoins is just an alternative currency which is still depends in fiat system. So even without bitcoin, fiat will still be there forever.
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