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81  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: IOTA on: June 03, 2016, 04:46:48 PM
What will happen to the unclaimed tokens?

As per our agreement with the project leaders the unclaimed tokens will be transferred to my account as a form of a huge thank you for my contribution, keeping the project on the right track and bringing my bright ideas about Internet of Things to this community.
82  Economy / Economics / Re: Martin Armstrong Discussion on: June 03, 2016, 04:37:23 PM
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The Nonfarm Payrolls came in substantially lower than expected. The dollar dropped with gold rising, but the Dow did not crash on the open in the same percentage move. So what is really going on here?
The economy is in a transition phase that is the same as what took place during the 1920s. Back then, the combustion engine displaced workers in many fields. Suddenly, a tractor could replace 100 farmhands. Today, we have the internet wiping out stores as Amazon changed the face of bookstores and publishing. Robots are displacing workers on a major scale.

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/world-news/upside-down-statistics-what-is-down-maybe-up/


Cheers Marty :-)) You could tell this a bit earlier :-)) because I started to buy VIX and UVXY yesterday evening by expecting a weak Nonfarm Payrolls data.

Anyway, I am not buying the CNBC mantra which says exactly same what Armstrong does: the robotics and automation is the reason of the weak job data and there is a shift in the society, the institutional and retail investors are so smart that see that all, and such infinite knowledge about automation and robotics prevents the crash. Robotics my ass. None of my broker friends have a clue about automation and robotics, but they execute more and more trades for the Chinese and Russians. Most likely the capital flow - that Armstrong predicted a long time ago - started and that keeps the market in a relatively healthy shape.
83  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: IOTA - Unmoderated thread on: June 03, 2016, 04:25:58 PM
I am head of the project, it's my vision from which the project spawned and CfB is a developer, so CfB follows that path and of course what aligns with our hardware company.



David: There is no escape. Don't make me destroy you.
[pauses]
David: CfB, you do not yet realize your importance. You have only begun to discover your power. Join me, and I will complete your training. With our combined strength, we can end this destructive conflict and bring order to the cryptosphere.
CfB: I'll never join you!
David: If you only knew the power of the Dark Side. BCNext never told you what happened to your father.
CfB: He told me enough! He told me *you* killed him!
David: No. *I* am your father.
CfB: No. No. That's not true. That's impossible!
David: Search your feelings, you *know* it to be true!
CfB: [anguished] No! No!

David: Your destiny lies with me Come-from-Beyond. BCNext knew this to be true.
CfB: No...


Hahaha. Funny stuff. Quite true as well.
84  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: IOTA - Unmoderated thread on: June 02, 2016, 05:46:42 PM
we won't release unfinished fintech software that hasn't been properly tested

Clueless like a kitten.
85  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: IOTA - Unmoderated thread on: June 02, 2016, 05:39:09 PM

Where do people get these ideas? Where and when have we ever said that we'd somehow exclude the original IOTA network? Never. People should really stop lying and act like adults who actually read terms of sales before they purchase something.



people are scared and concerned given this environment and these circumstances. this may be unfounded and irrational but it is not as outlandish as your rethorical questions implies.

do you feel you are being coerced or bullied if your customers want their concerns calmed?

do you consider it an outrageous abuse if your customers are insecure and scared and ask you to give them piece of mind that this will not happen?

do you blame your customers for being insecure?



Yes, he does all those.

Please note, the only job David boy had in his life is this one, to scam money out from the noobs, naives and idiots in this gambling microcosmos.  He has no experience whatsoever in business or technology. He has never made a dollar (not even one) by creating a product in real world, for real people, real businesses and real world use cases (except when he was flipping burger in the McDonlad's at age 18). Therefore, he doesn't understand the concept of customer, business or investor.
He is good enough to create a blatant scam P&D, but don't expect anything more from a scammer like David is.

86  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: IOTA - Unmoderated thread on: June 02, 2016, 05:26:32 PM

It's really kind of telling that both you and your "leader" resort to personal attacks upon myself (and others) rather than actually defending your project.


They are unable to defend the undefendable. Therefore, they hope to switch the attention from their scam by posting personal attacks.

The Belarusian's very average software development skills, his mistakes that would be unacceptable even from a junior developer and that indicates his lack of experience in commercial software development has been pointed out by me and you as well. It is documented in this thread. They can't defend that broken record.

The complete failure of their IOTA scam terms of delivering any result, no GUI after 6 months, not even one tiny pilot project with any IoT businesses is indefensible as well.

The scammers are in trouble, therefore they troll and attack any criticism.
87  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: IOTA - Unmoderated thread on: June 02, 2016, 03:42:25 PM
Hey oldie ...  a complete failure your whole life and then you fucked away

You have just demonstrated (again) why your plan of challenging Intel and IBM is a completely nonsense. Professionals who can challenge Intel and IBM don't act like you do, nor they disrespect and blackmail their own investors.


88  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: IOTA - Unmoderated thread on: June 02, 2016, 02:55:19 PM

already tired to be a hostage

You are not a hostage. You are the victim of a blatant scam.

Send your details to the police either in the UK, Norway, US or Russia. The police in those jurisdictions are already aware of the blatant IOTA scam and have been investigating it. Alternatively, you can send me your details and I will forward it to those police forces.



89  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: IOTA - Unmoderated thread on: June 02, 2016, 02:46:21 PM
@ALL, please start to donate to the IOTA Foundation, especially the top 50 coin holders, if the Foundation is not built up, your owned coins will be shit, you can't earn any money but lost all of your investment!!!

Why they "will be shit"?

Because they will be unusable in the network strengthened and bootstrapped by the Jinn hardware processor they were sold for. And they will be unusable in the network that will be marketed using the crowdsale funds.


Purpose of the crowdsale


Development. The crowdsale funds will be used for further development and finalization of the IOTA software as well as development of the Jinn hardware processor which will strengthen and help bootstrap the network in its growing phase. Additionally funds will be used on marketing efforts to help nurture the growth of the IOTA network and  community.

Prevent hoarding whales from stifling the project. If the tokens had not been sold but instead distributed through a sign-up scheme or mining of some sort, centralization would inevitably arise and usage of sybil type strategies would cheat the system.

Kickstart the ecosystem. As these tokens exist in limited quantity and every single one of them is sold in this exclusive crowdsale, it is imperative that the people who end up with them value their utility and functionality in such a manner that they have an incentive keep them useful and valuable. This is absolutely vital for organic growth of IOTA.


Precisely. The smarter IOTA investors start realizing that the two scammers won't deliver anything from the deliverables.
90  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: IOTA - Unmoderated thread on: June 02, 2016, 02:21:34 PM
You're treating people badly by deliberately creating uncertainty and fear.
A quote of the relevant post is required there.

It's the posts you're NOT making that I'm criticising you for. Looks like most people here believe IOTA token wont even exist if the 5% figure isn't reached, and you wont state a clear position on that. Iotatoken claims to have made 20x return for 'speculators' in IOTA, but you both said you only sold software, so it doesn't make sense to have returns for a sale of software, and you don't answer questions on that either. You let tension and fear escalate, and you don't do anything to stop it, and you're the leader of IOTA. Everybody invested in IOTA because of you, and you let David FUD those same people, and you do nothing about it. That's why I think you've made a big error here. It's your project, you're the head guy, and people want to here what you think, not David.


Yes, that's true, but please note you are talking to scammers. Now, the scammers try to lure out more money from the naives, noobs and idiots by saying "No, no. You can't have part in our future monetization of IOTA, except if you give us more money". Did you invest to monetize from IOTA IoT business plan by trusting these assholes will deliver? Doesn't matter - they need more money. It's a classic scammer move isn't? Nothing was delivered, but by projecting some hope and blackmailing their own investors they try to milk more money from the investors.

Here is what you should do:

1) Don't give any money to the foundation. You gain nothing by donating. The P&D will happen with or without the foundation. These two assholes, David and CfB are the largest IOTA holders, they have the biggest IOTA wallets. Therefore, they will do the P&D, because they will have to dump all their IOTAs on the market.

2) Sell the IOTA when you can. The IOTA monetization in Internet of Things won't yield any return on your investment (see my above post about that).



91  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: IOTA - Unmoderated thread on: June 02, 2016, 01:59:46 PM
We have worked our asses off *FOR FREE* as community members and OFFER the community further work, of course we won't sit here and be treated like slaves.

Is 500k dollars a work for free? Cmon you are joking! and you are not so funny like CfB! He has humor at least.

Now you play the game "people who literally view me and CfB as their slaves " you repeat this like a broken records.

I'm calling right now Larry Page and Sergey Brin  because i own some google shares and their are my slaves too!

You who seem so erudite ... do you know the basic concept of majority? In this regard, what is your share of IOTA, and what are you going to donate to the foundation?

You are insulting all and responding as if we were monsters, is this  the way to create a community? I believe that you lack of experience and bases , you just dont understand easy things....



Yeeppp.

David boy is out of his depth here. He is psychologically unstable and most importantly he has zero experience in business, therefore his blatant lies about his nonsensical IOTA business plan are exposed. Now, he has realized he can't deliver anything with this Belarusian CfB asshole, and therefore started the drama to get out from the partnership with his investors. You trusted him with your money - now he wants to terminate the relation because he can't deliver a thing. Surely, he will try to make hypes when the P&D will commence (remember the Microsoft Azure nonsense, how hard he wanted to hype that until I told him fuck off, you have nothing), but in reality he understand that the IOTA monetization in Internet of Things will never happen.

People like me who invest heavily in brick and mortar IoT businesses understand how hard work is to monetize in the IoT sector. Even well funded businesses like SmartThings or Evrythng struggle. IoT is not the playground of assholes like this David boy. Scammers always fail when they have to deliver a real business in real world.

92  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: IOTA - Unmoderated thread on: June 02, 2016, 01:44:31 PM

Never conflate asking for confirmation that something exist with the desire to see it yourself.
I did not know scammers posted pictures of themselves online. Next thing I'll hear Liquio has a picture online too.

The fact you wish to see a correlation between dirty talk and cfb's pic is none of my business and you are welcome to enjoy the world as you see fit. I only hope that you will stop pumping scams. Other than that you should be free to imagine cfb in whatever context/positions you like.

Let's talk facts not making childish personal assumptions about one another.


As usual, I would agree with you, but please note we are dealing here with blatant liars and scammers, therefore the psychological profile of these wankers is an important factor. From that standpoint his picture is an important material to understand the mindset of a piece of shit scammer like this Belarusian CfB is.

The picture shows a 50 kg 37 years old virgin who hides in the shithole of Belarus and lives his live in this forum (once I post this, 2 minutes later he will reply to it). This wanker never had a pint in a pub with real people - nobody talks to him in real life. He has no friends nor girlfriend. He has only his scammed BTCs and the admiration of the idiots who bought into his mediocre development skills. No wonder he couldn't even set up a fucking LinkedIN profile when TPTB_need_war has challenged him: no serious professional in this world endorse this asshole, except the few idiots who gave him money in this gambling microcosmos. So in this instance my accurate personal profiling of this asshole is not assumption, but a collection of pure and hard facts :-)))


93  Economy / Economics / Re: Martin Armstrong Discussion on: June 01, 2016, 07:15:45 PM

So in which private blog he mentioned the DJIA 17.8K?


Since you are so polite you will have to find it by yourself, but it's not that hard.

First you give me a nonsense reply, then you are butthurt. It seems you are not even a payee customer of Armstrong. You just wanted to be smart by telling who should read what, so don't be surprised if your silly smartness is pointed out.
94  Economy / Economics / Re: Martin Armstrong Discussion on: June 01, 2016, 07:12:18 PM
You both talk about paper promises. Paper promises can go to zero, this is not relevant to the real world price of gold.

I don't think TPTB_need_war was talking about paper gold. When we talk about gold in this topic, normally we refer to gold related stocks such as gold miners, like GDX, GDL, GDXJ which normally reflect very accurately the gold price. Similarly, when we say buy oil then we talk about WTI and the likes. Armstrong is a market trader so we talk about stocks in relation to the market.

95  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: IOTA - Unmoderated thread on: June 01, 2016, 07:01:01 PM
and I fucked all kind of women all over the places

What did you use to drug them?


Your picture indicates that you're a 37 year old virgin, so here is what's happening in sex.

The drug is my dick ... just like it is the drug dispenser. Like a Zigbee enabled wireless IoT device, the hardened dick - in the form of a visual effect - sends a REST based, Base64 encoded signal to the woman's brain: hello, here I am and ready to shag you. The lady processes the signal and this dick-based drug-signal takes over her emotions and switch-off her rational consciousness. The visual manifestation of a hardened dick is the first transcendent dick-shot to her brain. The drug is operational within a second and only she can say is: "fuck me hard altcoinUK". And then, this almighty drug-dispenser of nature, the man's dick delivers the next shot by starting to tease her pussy. This is when the dick enters in the league of the heroin produced by our Afghani mujahideen brothers. This dick-based drug is even better than any heroin was ever produced by our Afghani mujahideen brothers, because the woman remains physically active while her brain is completely ruled by the dick. Unlike your never operational JINN processor waporvare, my dick is asynchronously send messages to her brain, soul and body by transferring the female to such emotional state when she can only think about one and only one thing: ORGASM. By then the drug-dispenser dick operates like a powerful steam locomotive by moving back and forth to take the lady to new highs with each movement. This dick-based drug is entirely poisoned her body and she is now a complete extension of the dick. Only she can scream: "harder altcoinUK, harder!" Unlike your never operational and not scalable tangle IOTA nonsense, my dick sends signals in each seconds to each nerves of her clitoral cavernosal erectile tissue. There are thousands of such nerves, but - unlike your IOTA tangle nonsense - the complexity of the task can't prevent the dick to perform the task. This wonder of the universe delivers one decisive shot after another. Unlike you never operational Internet of Things business, the perfectly programmed firmware of the dick is the source of happiness, prosperity and a handsome return on investment.

Now, go and jerk off Sergey, you will never have a woman anyway. At least make yourself happy.

96  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: IOTA - Unmoderated thread on: June 01, 2016, 05:41:54 PM
Hahaha, altcoinUK old man, never change.

I got a proposal for you though so you might get some money to leave behind to your granddaughter. A bet. Look, it's universally known on this forum by now that you never achieved anything in your life and that it eats you up inside. This lead you to sacrifice your most precious grains of sand in your hourglass on hating successful young people, which is pathetic, but understandable given your circumstances. So here is my proposal, if you genuinely believe any of the nonsense you are spewing then back it up with money. I'll give good odds to you 5:1 style. I'll put up 50 BTC, so you stand to earn 250 BTC if your claims come true.

Do you want to take it and give your granddaughter some hope, or do you just want to continue venting envy? It's your chance grandpa

Son, here you are, the chief-wanker of Norway, a 28 years old nobody whom only achievement is so far to scam out money from a few idiots on the most notorious forum of the Internet. Nothing else you have. No publication nor scientific achievement whatsoever. Zero experience in business. There is nothing on your CV like others at your age have. You never worked for any technology businesses where you could learn to interact with others within a professional environment (now wonder you can't even project manage a fucking GUI development and you label with trolling anybody who points out your psychological issues). You have nothing on your CV what people could recognize, except your time at McDonald's when you were cleaning shit and flipping burgers. No wonder you could achieve nothing in the last 6 months, since you have presented your genius plan for the idiot investors. So you are, - this absolutely useless excrement of the human race - deluded yourself that I am jealous and you offer me to do business with you.

Let me get my head around this lifetime opportunity, when a lowlife scammer like yourself want to do business, or want to do anything with me. I will have to pass that life time opportunity.

(On a personal note, I travelled a lot to Scandinavia in the 80s and I fucked all kind of women all over the places. It is very-very possible that I fucked your mother as well. Can we make a DNA test to figure out whether I really fucked your mother or not? Normally I produce quality materials, i.e. not like you. However, if it turns out that I fucked your momma and I produced a piece of shit like yourself, if it turns out that you are my son, then I will find you and I will beat the shit out of you. Then we will sit down, and we will have a father-son talk which you couldn't have with the loser who raised you by believing that he is your dad, and I will explain you, you fucking retard why do you need to find an honest job instead of scamming idiots on this forum).

Ha, love it. BCT been so quiet lately.

Give the boy time.

He tries to come to terms with the reality, and he tries to comprehend with the fact that it is very-very possible I am his father, and the poor bugger who raised him is not his dad. This is tough, and we must give him time to adapt to this situation.
I will let you know all once I had that father-son talk with David boy.
97  Economy / Economics / Re: Martin Armstrong Discussion on: June 01, 2016, 05:25:10 PM
he hasn't even said anything about the DJIA 17.8K resistance?



Actually he did mention this, but in his private blog, not in the public.

I said in my post "I have his private reports and I read his public blogs". I am a paying customer of him. Even I attended his last conference. Anyway, doesn't matter what I do, but I said "I have his private reports". So in which private blog he mentioned the DJIA 17.8K? I might overlooked it, just tell me in what paid material he said what and I will check it.

I warned people about taking any free advices on his public blog, it's great news source, but don't use it for trading, because sooner or later you'll get burned.

WTF are you talking about? I posted in this forum many weeks ago that the latest DJIA 18K is a dead cat bounce and the short is the trade from there. What kind of burning are you talking about by presenting your infinite wisdom? Stop being so smart, especially if you have no idea about the market or just answer the question or say nothing.

I was not talking about the merit of his analysis. If you can read, you can see, I said that the DJIA pull back was obvious. What I was talking about, and not first time questioning/pointing out, why does he need this used car salesman approach when sockpuppets praise him by posting hosanna about his skills. He earned his reputation in the late 90s during the Russian crisis. He doesn't need such obvious shilling.


98  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: IOTA - Unmoderated thread on: June 01, 2016, 04:03:32 PM
Hahaha, altcoinUK old man, never change.

I got a proposal for you though so you might get some money to leave behind to your granddaughter. A bet. Look, it's universally known on this forum by now that you never achieved anything in your life and that it eats you up inside. This lead you to sacrifice your most precious grains of sand in your hourglass on hating successful young people, which is pathetic, but understandable given your circumstances. So here is my proposal, if you genuinely believe any of the nonsense you are spewing then back it up with money. I'll give good odds to you 5:1 style. I'll put up 50 BTC, so you stand to earn 250 BTC if your claims come true.

Do you want to take it and give your granddaughter some hope, or do you just want to continue venting envy? It's your chance grandpa

Son, here you are, the chief-wanker of Norway, a 28 years old nobody whom only achievement is so far to scam out money from a few idiots on the most notorious forum of the Internet. Nothing else you have. No publication nor scientific achievement whatsoever. Zero experience in business. There is nothing on your CV like others at your age have. You never worked for any technology businesses where you could learn to interact with others within a professional environment (now wonder you can't even project manage a fucking GUI development and you label with trolling anybody who points out your psychological issues). You have nothing on your CV what people could recognize, except your time at McDonald's when you were cleaning shit and flipping burgers. No wonder you could achieve nothing in the last 6 months, since you have presented your genius plan for the idiot investors. So you are, - this absolutely useless excrement of the human race - deluded yourself that I am jealous and you offer me to do business with you.

Let me get my head around this lifetime opportunity, when a lowlife scammer like yourself want to do business, or want to do anything with me. I will have to pass that life time opportunity.

(On a personal note, I travelled a lot to Scandinavia in the 80s and I fucked all kind of women all over the places. It is very-very possible that I fucked your mother as well. Can we make a DNA test to figure out whether I really fucked your mother or not? Normally I produce quality materials, i.e. not like you. However, if it turns out that I fucked your momma and I produced a piece of shit like yourself, if it turns out that you are my son, then I will find you and I will beat the shit out of you. Then we will sit down, and we will have a father-son talk which you couldn't have with the loser who raised you by believing that he is your dad, and I will explain you, you fucking retard why do you need to find an honest job instead of scamming idiots on this forum).
99  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: IOTA - Unmoderated thread on: June 01, 2016, 03:07:00 PM
I don't believe you and David respect that fact, otherwise you wouldn't be raising the possibility of there being a fork that dosn't include the original ICO investors. You're refusal to clarify that matter shows a lack of respect for the original supporters of IOTA.

What makes the situation doubly concerning is the donations are totally unnecessary, as a premine achieves the fund raising outcome we all seem to agree on perfectly well, so as I speculated, I think the reason for your preference for donations is not related to neutralizing the 'bystander effect', but more likely for some other legal reason, which is fine by me, but why wont you guys be upfront? This obfuscation of the facts, combined with David's threatening and insulting tone to supporters like myself recently is a red flag.

I can handle David insulting me and others, but I don't like his chances of navigating the path ahead for IOTA with such an overly macho and immature style. That style from a project manager doesn't work unless he's also the code guy, in which case people have to suffer in silence and put up with the BS. In David's case he'll simply be replaced by a more professional person at a later date, but by then he will have had plenty of time to poison the well with key stakeholders and partners. I've been in business for 20+ years and that's the way it works. Managers can only act like David if they're irreplaceable, and David is easily replaced, so eventually key interests will want him removed, and that's going to be messy. He wont go quietly and will try and lob grenades as he goes. His involvement from here on with IOTA makes the future less certain.

So now users can understand why I was absolutely correct about this momma-basement-CEO David boy, who without experience in business, technology and with the assistance of a serial scammer from the shithole of dictatorial, communist Belarus want to challenge IBM, Intel, etc.

Pure nonsense.

They couldn't even release a fucking GUI in 6 months. Nor they could sign-up any businesses for a pilot project, despite having $500K budget available. My granddaughter could sign up her kindergarten to an IoT pilot project within this time by presenting the idea of a wireless, IoT enabled nappies that sends a fucking alarm to grandpa's mobile device when she had having a shit. These two useless scammers couldn't even do that. All you have at hand is a P&D of IOTA token.
100  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: IOTA - Unmoderated thread on: June 01, 2016, 02:42:17 PM

I understand your criticism, but a 5% premine that hasnt been included in the ICO would result in big issues legally as community wise. Not everybody will agree with that and like you some won't like the sheer fact that they havent been informed from the start about something like that and are now being forced to do so.


Either way something is being included that wasn't mentioned in the ico:
1- 5% premine
2- 5% donation

1- ensures original IOTA investors are part of the future

2- does NOT


which is better for you?

both are new developments that weren't disclosed during the ICO


Yeppp. That's what scammers do. Since they are incapable to deliver anything what they have promised, never mind to implement a lucrative business or monetize on their fantasy-technology, they blackmail their own investors by injecting new conditions to the original agreement. Such dishonest business practice wouldn't pass the stress test of any civil courts, and it is certainly a pure criminal law material.

When you gave money you were an investor. Now, when you are asking what is happening, you are a troll.

PM me your personal details and I will forward it to the UK, US, Norway and Russian police (the Russians can get out this Belarusian asshole from the shithole of Belarus.)
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