Hi - Is there any way I can see if I've found blocks in your pools?
Why I ask CGMiner says I've found four blocks in pool 3332 in the last month - three in the last week, which I think is a little far fetched for my 6 GH setup.
Would they be Orphans? (mighty huge orphans). I have a screen shot saying they were found (not when, just that they were found).
Thanks,
*edit* (27th Aug) It's now said I found a further 30+ blocks, this can't be right ... can it?
No, not on port 3332. If you had found 30 Bitcoin blocks you need to buy a lottery ticket stat  If you were on port 8888 or 9999, it's completely possible you could have found lots of TRC blocks or another relatively low difficulty coin, but not on 3332. |
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\ thanks flound for that has a hunch on something but needs someone at ban end to watch something on their end Yeah I checked their site again. Share count is.. pretty much nowhere. At least nowhere where it can be checked vs. payouts. I asked s0br to have a share count for each payment on the "individual URL" but that was right before he went MIA. |
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Well, whatever reason I think we can all agree that whoevers fault it is needs to get it fixed. I know I've said and done a lot but as messed up as it sounds. The issues with pools does seem to follow multipool, so all bs aside. What harm would it come for you (flound) to hire someone who knows their shit to go over your backend. I know a lot of trust comes in to play but I'm sure doc from bitminer or eleuthria from btcguild would be willing to help and welome you in to their pools if the problems that seem to follow you can be fixed.
Let an admin of a pool we actually mined on come forward and state publicly that we caused a technical issue on their pool and I will address it. I will not entertain rumors spread by trolls using one week old accounts. Regarding the issue at hand, if you want to make the claim that payouts on a PPS pool can be affected by who's submitting shares and/or how many, then I'm sorry but that is an extraordinary claim and the burden of proof is on you. In fact the PPS calculation is extraordinarily simple: Shares accepted / difficulty * block reward = payout. BAN accepted our shares, and we expect to be paid. 2.4 Bitcoins are owed. Just a question where the share count based from the local MP pool or the BAN pool share count  ?? Just trying to understand something here as has been running a few tests on a few things..... Has picked something up but needs to run more testing to be 100 percent sure on something...... As there a common here in the forum re some comments about rented rigs via nice hash/west hash <<<<<< that later also uses a proxy set up etc.... So A quick bit of info would be handy where the share count was from your end at your local pool or BAN end on their pool stats ? The share count is from my local end, I don't even know where BAN displays its share count but the hashrate it displayed was always accurate to within 5%. |
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Well, whatever reason I think we can all agree that whoevers fault it is needs to get it fixed. I know I've said and done a lot but as messed up as it sounds. The issues with pools does seem to follow multipool, so all bs aside. What harm would it come for you (flound) to hire someone who knows their shit to go over your backend. I know a lot of trust comes in to play but I'm sure doc from bitminer or eleuthria from btcguild would be willing to help and welome you in to their pools if the problems that seem to follow you can be fixed.
Let an admin of a pool we actually mined on come forward and state publicly that we caused a technical issue on their pool and I will address it. I will not entertain rumors spread by trolls using one week old accounts. Regarding the issue at hand, if you want to make the claim that payouts on a PPS pool can be affected by who's submitting shares and/or how many, then I'm sorry but that is an extraordinary claim and the burden of proof is on you. In fact the PPS calculation is extraordinarily simple: Shares accepted / difficulty * block reward = payout. BAN accepted our shares, and we expect to be paid. 2.4 Bitcoins are owed. |
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You are right. This IS becoming BS. Lets look at the facts:
1. Several people who won FREE S3's have said they got them.
2. I have been charting ALL payouts since the 20th. Even with two days of bad payouts (caused by the multipool)
Please explain how adding more hashrate can break payouts on a PPS pool. Bottom line is we are still owed 2.4 BTC to be at 100% PPS, let alone 112.5% that was promised. It seems that while you & Co. were here, EVERYONE lost coins, you as well. Not sure why though? I'm not a tech guy. No idea, and not really my problem. PPS is PPS. Either this pool pays out correctly or it doesn't. |
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You are right. This IS becoming BS. Lets look at the facts:
1. Several people who won FREE S3's have said they got them.
2. I have been charting ALL payouts since the 20th. Even with two days of bad payouts (caused by the multipool)
Please explain how adding more hashrate can break payouts on a PPS pool. Bottom line is we are still owed 2.4 BTC to be at 100% PPS, let alone 112.5% that was promised. |
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If you're not mining here, why do you keep coming back?
Entertainment I guess. |
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Getting close to 24 hours with normalized payouts. This is great to see.
Once the stability in payouts returns, I have a feeling that will alleviate a lot of peoples concerns. I know it does for me.
See what happens when MultiProxyPool.us ery left everything magically fixes itself back to normal with no coders fixing anything need I say more! If a user submitting shares completely breaks a pool's payout system, then I don't have much hope for that pool. So that means every pool you've ever jumped on has a bad system them ? Eligus, Bitminter, BAN, to name a few. Not sure what you mean, we had zero issues with Bitminter's payouts, Eligius mines their payout transactions which means sometimes you get a payout every couple days, sometimes you get paid once a week ( http://eligius.st/~gateway/faq/how-does-payout-queue-work) which was not often enough for us. We left Bitminter because of their toxic community (sort of like what I've been experiencing in this thread, but many times worse), I had very few issues with the pool itself and their admin has been trying to get us to come back. |
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...Really I think your stats are off. I mined there for a significant many of days while on multi sha256 and scrypt and i made squat in the time i did so either to your benevolent hash trickery or you can just chalk it up to bad luck if you choose. You can say what you want about stats and so forth but that does not negate the fact that you advertise and promote yourself to be a "POOL" which you are not you are a pilferer of the weak, it is business people like you that will bring down bitcoin with your tomfoolery sudo switching algo that NEVER matches coinwarz or any other profitability calcs that i can find. Your so called pool stats don't show profitability they show switching which isn't very often. And your payouts are meager at best with fees added...
Cool story bro. |
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Getting close to 24 hours with normalized payouts. This is great to see.
Once the stability in payouts returns, I have a feeling that will alleviate a lot of peoples concerns. I know it does for me.
See what happens when MultiProxyPool.us ery left everything magically fixes itself back to normal with no coders fixing anything need I say more! If a user submitting shares completely breaks a pool's payout system, then I don't have much hope for that pool. |
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Exelite lightweight Execoin wallet has been updated (to version 0.3.11.9)
But WHY qt-wallet loose sync frequently. Just import one priv key to wallet and soon it show just ok. After fifteen minutes I look agen and think I send coins to other address. What hell... wallet is out of sync. 348292 and now waiting estimated block number 363763. (Edit: just now 5.50AM GMT) With different times, different numbers it loose sync. Sometimes restrat help shortly, sometimes it soon return this kind of state when it get more connections. Now there is one connection and situation is "out of sync" and this totally wrong block count what it is waiting. Where from it get this wrong data? Agen day what I can not move my coins due to this hassle with sync. Two days ago I send over 10k EXE and it fails. Wallet tell balance zero after send and block chan Explorer tell coins sit still in addres and have not moved. After hours waiting and in this time walllet was also later sunc, I stop waiting. (transfer status in wallet was just ?). I delete wallet dat (name it agen) and start new. Agen it get sync, then Private key in and it show agen balance. I send agen it to this other address. wallet then zero balance, this ok, and show transfer status ?. Agen wait long time, restart wallet two times. Some times it sync. But coins did not go to other address where I send these. Agen wallet dat rename and start new. Import priv, agen it show balance ok. This time wallet stau sync and I send coins and this time it success. What are these sync drop outs with wrong block numbers from some node? If this can not solve it destroy this coin. What there so difficult to keep nodes in sync so that there is not agen and agen this wrong fork on the air. Who is running this wrong fork and why? Because there are still nodes on wrong fork. Correct block now is 348314. In order to get rid of wrong nodes you could add the following to execoin.conf https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=491058.msg8566412#msg8566412You can't fix a fork with addnodes. You need to checkpoint the correct chain at a point after the fork. why is the chain still forking? |
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I mined there because i believed in you like i believe in s0br and you proved to be OTHER THAN A MINING POOL you are merely a proxy and why should i pay you for that? You mean to tell me you pass on all profit to your users? LIE!... You are using people to make you profit and paying them what you think they should have. As soon as i leave your Multipool all of a sudden I start making money and I'm donating over 2% explain that. You know exactly what im talking about why run a proxy and call it a pool, that in itself is misleading. Multipool.us = ProxyPool.usury
Yes we pass on all profits from our upstream pool to our users, minus the 1.5% fee. In our help page it states clearly that we proxy Bitcoin hash to an upstream pool. All other ~40 pools we host run on our own stratum instances. And yes, our payouts from cex.io have been on the low side lately which was why I started looking for another pool to begin with, among other reasons. I'm sorry you had a bad experience. It doesn't mean I'm not entitled to earn a living. You know what that sounds like..? Okay. I can't... I just can't. -eof It means whether we have bad profits or good profits, I get my 1.5%. High profits aren't guaranteed. I spend my time making things work. According to my records, you mined on Multipool for less than a day, at a time before we even had fees on the Bitcoin port, so I'm not really sure why you think you were ripped off given that you paid zero fees and only mined 0.0003 BTC anyway. |
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I mined there because i believed in you like i believe in s0br and you proved to be OTHER THAN A MINING POOL you are merely a proxy and why should i pay you for that? You mean to tell me you pass on all profit to your users? LIE!... You are using people to make you profit and paying them what you think they should have. As soon as i leave your Multipool all of a sudden I start making money and I'm donating over 2% explain that. You know exactly what im talking about why run a proxy and call it a pool, that in itself is misleading. Multipool.us = ProxyPool.usury
Yes we pass on all profits from our upstream pool to our users, minus the 1.5% fee. In our help page it states clearly that we proxy Bitcoin hash to an upstream pool. All other ~40 pools we host run on our own stratum instances. And yes, our payouts from cex.io have been on the low side lately which was why I started looking for another pool to begin with, among other reasons. I'm sorry you had a bad experience. It doesn't mean I'm not entitled to earn a living. |
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FWIW, here are our shares and payouts while we were on the pool. This is with about 270-290TH and BAN always reported within 5% of our hashrate.
+-------------+--------------------+
| sum(shares) | sum(btc) |
+-------------+--------------------+
| 19440313760 | 15.393149373587221 |
+-------------+--------------------+
At the standard PPS rate (without the claimed bonus) we should have made about 17.8 BTC. With the bonus we should have made ~20 BTC.
So we are currently owed about 2.4 BTC at the standard PPS rate ignoring the bonus.
Let me know when you get things worked out and we'll be back.
Did your pool leave about 18 hours ago roughly? That is when the payouts normalized. If this is the case, maybe it is worth contacting the operator to see if something can be done technically to fix the issue. What he has is no where close to a pool, I mean a pool of miners with no actual pool anyway. But yes when he left is when payments normalized, the same thing happened on bitminter which I hear hes banned from. Also caused issues on eligus and btcguild. Not sure where you're getting your info but we never mined on BTC guild, we left Bitminer due to their toxic community and have since been invited to come back by the admin, however I haven't taken him up on that. We only mined on Eligius shortly due to their payout system issues, however there were no issues with payout calculations there. Please give a source for your statement that we 'caused issues' anywhere. Or maybe you're just trying to start drama. If a pool can't handle 250-300TH of extra hash, that's not due to anything we've done. All we do is submit shares, just like any other group of miners. Do you have multiple cgi-mining configurations mining within your pool. Many of Bitmains products have major issues within P2P pools. If you have a lot of those people switching frequencies often you will get accepted shares in your discarded. The whole pools efficiency dropped a staggering 8% + when your hash joined. Perhaps the combination of CGI mining configurations is making something seem different than it is. Also, do you do anything to maximize efficiency of peoples locations, or do you route all miners into 1 worker from around the world to 1 stratum and expect it to be normal? What part didn't you get the part where I stated BAN doesn't want or need you... or the part where I stated you were commuting usury on your miners for 1.5% of their hashrate while you mine at free pools unbeknownst to them... Usury: The term may be used in a moral sense—condemning taking advantage of others' misfortunes My 1.5% fee is for switching my users to the most profitable coin, it has nothing to do with which upstream BTC pool we use (we've used both free pools and pools which charge fees) and I'm sure all of my miners would have been happy to get an extra 12.5% on their hash, unfortunately that did not pan out as advertised. Either way unless you speak for BAN in some official sense then I am not interested in your opinion as to whether our hash is welcome here. I speak for myself i mined with you and your pool pays sh*t look for my username there... you charge your users 1.5% to rip them off. Left when i found out you were mining at Ghash for free and my payouts were almost invisible with you... and you were charging me 1.5% to mine at Ghash for FREE! That sir was usury, not robbery not theft but usury that's my beef with you. Not the wholly the BAN issue but you fuc*ed up our pool so hell yeah my beef is with you bout this and your low diff piggyback usury laden mining pool. You sir... That's that sh*t I dont like! OK? I mean, you knew Multipool had a fee and you mined here. It's not like it was a secret. I made the decision to proxy our BTC hash elsewhere rather than be subject to the variance that mining directly with only 300TH would cause. Most miners appreciate the lower variance. If we reach the amount of hash we'd need to mine directly I have stratum instances ready to go but unfortunately we're not at that point yet. Either way it's transparent to the users and I use the same amount of server resources and spend the same amount of time maximizing my users' profits, so why shouldn't I take a fee? Maybe the problem is people like you who want everyone to work for them for free. To the person who asked the p2pool question, it couldn't handle our load. I was running 4 instances each on 3 servers with 3.6GHz Xeons and it was running at 85% efficiency. And this was back when we had only around 30-50TH. I was in conversations with forrestv (the author) about possible improvements and even gave him some patches which he never merged, then he got $10k from the Litecoin foundation and basically disappeared. I would love to mine on P2pool if it was actually viable. |
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FWIW, here are our shares and payouts while we were on the pool. This is with about 270-290TH and BAN always reported within 5% of our hashrate.
+-------------+--------------------+
| sum(shares) | sum(btc) |
+-------------+--------------------+
| 19440313760 | 15.393149373587221 |
+-------------+--------------------+
At the standard PPS rate (without the claimed bonus) we should have made about 17.8 BTC. With the bonus we should have made ~20 BTC.
So we are currently owed about 2.4 BTC at the standard PPS rate ignoring the bonus.
Let me know when you get things worked out and we'll be back.
Did your pool leave about 18 hours ago roughly? That is when the payouts normalized. If this is the case, maybe it is worth contacting the operator to see if something can be done technically to fix the issue. What he has is no where close to a pool, I mean a pool of miners with no actual pool anyway. But yes when he left is when payments normalized, the same thing happened on bitminter which I hear hes banned from. Also caused issues on eligus and btcguild. Not sure where you're getting your info but we never mined on BTC guild, we left Bitminer due to their toxic community and have since been invited to come back by the admin, however I haven't taken him up on that. We only mined on Eligius shortly due to their payout system issues, however there were no issues with payout calculations there. Please give a source for your statement that we 'caused issues' anywhere. Or maybe you're just trying to start drama. If a pool can't handle 250-300TH of extra hash, that's not due to anything we've done. All we do is submit shares, just like any other group of miners. Do you have multiple cgi-mining configurations mining within your pool. Many of Bitmains products have major issues within P2P pools. If you have a lot of those people switching frequencies often you will get accepted shares in your discarded. The whole pools efficiency dropped a staggering 8% + when your hash joined. Perhaps the combination of CGI mining configurations is making something seem different than it is. Also, do you do anything to maximize efficiency of peoples locations, or do you route all miners into 1 worker from around the world to 1 stratum and expect it to be normal? What part didn't you get the part where I stated BAN doesn't want or need you... or the part where I stated you were commuting usury on your miners for 1.5% of their hashrate while you mine at free pools unbeknownst to them... Usury: The term may be used in a moral sense—condemning taking advantage of others' misfortunes My 1.5% fee is for switching my users to the most profitable coin, it has nothing to do with which upstream BTC pool we use (we've used both free pools and pools which charge fees) and I'm sure all of my miners would have been happy to get an extra 12.5% on their hash, unfortunately that did not pan out as advertised. Either way unless you speak for BAN in some official sense then I am not interested in your opinion as to whether our hash is welcome here. |
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FWIW, here are our shares and payouts while we were on the pool. This is with about 270-290TH and BAN always reported within 5% of our hashrate.
+-------------+--------------------+
| sum(shares) | sum(btc) |
+-------------+--------------------+
| 19440313760 | 15.393149373587221 |
+-------------+--------------------+
At the standard PPS rate (without the claimed bonus) we should have made about 17.8 BTC. With the bonus we should have made ~20 BTC.
So we are currently owed about 2.4 BTC at the standard PPS rate ignoring the bonus.
Let me know when you get things worked out and we'll be back.
Did your pool leave about 18 hours ago roughly? That is when the payouts normalized. If this is the case, maybe it is worth contacting the operator to see if something can be done technically to fix the issue. What he has is no where close to a pool, I mean a pool of miners with no actual pool anyway. But yes when he left is when payments normalized, the same thing happened on bitminter which I hear hes banned from. Also caused issues on eligus and btcguild. Not sure where you're getting your info but we never mined on BTC guild, we left Bitminer due to their toxic community and have since been invited to come back by the admin, however I haven't taken him up on that. We only mined on Eligius shortly due to their payout system issues, however there were no issues with payout calculations there. Please give a source for your statement that we 'caused issues' anywhere. Or maybe you're just trying to start drama. If a pool can't handle 250-300TH of extra hash, that's not due to anything we've done. All we do is submit shares, just like any other group of miners. Do you have multiple cgi-mining configurations mining within your pool. Many of Bitmains products have major issues within P2P pools. If you have a lot of those people switching frequencies often you will get accepted shares in your discarded. The whole pools efficiency dropped a staggering 8% + when your hash joined. Perhaps the combination of CGI mining configurations is making something seem different than it is. Also, do you do anything to maximize efficiency of peoples locations, or do you route all miners into 1 worker from around the world to 1 stratum? s0br set up dedicated stratums for us, so we're not affecting anyone else unless his db is not fast enough to handle the load. Anyway we're gone now, so nothing for you to worry about anymore. I was trying to understand, Actually was trying to be helpful so you could keep mining. But, I have nothing to worry about anymore, so thank you for such clarity. You sound like someone I want to mine with! If we were causing any issues I would have though s0br would have told me about it, I was talking to him practically nonstop on IRC after we came on. He went silent though when I asked him about anomalies in the payouts. I hated to make things public here as I would have wished we could have sorted the payouts out in private but it's been almost a day and a half since I started asking and I can't keep running at a loss and s0br is still MIA. Best of luck to you all. |
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The whole pools efficiency dropped a staggering 8% + when your hash joined. Perhaps the combination of CGI mining configurations is making something seem different than it is.
Our efficiency was always over 98%. |
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FWIW, here are our shares and payouts while we were on the pool. This is with about 270-290TH and BAN always reported within 5% of our hashrate.
+-------------+--------------------+
| sum(shares) | sum(btc) |
+-------------+--------------------+
| 19440313760 | 15.393149373587221 |
+-------------+--------------------+
At the standard PPS rate (without the claimed bonus) we should have made about 17.8 BTC. With the bonus we should have made ~20 BTC.
So we are currently owed about 2.4 BTC at the standard PPS rate ignoring the bonus.
Let me know when you get things worked out and we'll be back.
Did your pool leave about 18 hours ago roughly? That is when the payouts normalized. If this is the case, maybe it is worth contacting the operator to see if something can be done technically to fix the issue. What he has is no where close to a pool, I mean a pool of miners with no actual pool anyway. But yes when he left is when payments normalized, the same thing happened on bitminter which I hear hes banned from. Also caused issues on eligus and btcguild. Not sure where you're getting your info but we never mined on BTC guild, we left Bitminer due to their toxic community and have since been invited to come back by the admin, however I haven't taken him up on that. We only mined on Eligius shortly due to their payout system issues, however there were no issues with payout calculations there. Please give a source for your statement that we 'caused issues' anywhere. Or maybe you're just trying to start drama. If a pool can't handle 250-300TH of extra hash, that's not due to anything we've done. All we do is submit shares, just like any other group of miners. Do you have multiple cgi-mining configurations mining within your pool. Many of Bitmains products have major issues within P2P pools. If you have a lot of those people switching frequencies often you will get accepted shares in your discarded. The whole pools efficiency dropped a staggering 8% + when your hash joined. Perhaps the combination of CGI mining configurations is making something seem different than it is. Also, do you do anything to maximize efficiency of peoples locations, or do you route all miners into 1 worker from around the world to 1 stratum? s0br set up dedicated stratums for us, so we're not affecting anyone else unless his db is not fast enough to handle the load. Anyway we're gone now, so nothing for you to worry about anymore. |
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FWIW, here are our shares and payouts while we were on the pool. This is with about 270-290TH and BAN always reported within 5% of our hashrate.
+-------------+--------------------+
| sum(shares) | sum(btc) |
+-------------+--------------------+
| 19440313760 | 15.393149373587221 |
+-------------+--------------------+
At the standard PPS rate (without the claimed bonus) we should have made about 17.8 BTC. With the bonus we should have made ~20 BTC.
So we are currently owed about 2.4 BTC at the standard PPS rate ignoring the bonus.
Let me know when you get things worked out and we'll be back.
Don't come back please... you f*ck up every pool you enter you broke Eligus, you broke Guild and have been BANNED from Ghash and BitMinter, why don't you get your own pool??? All you do is mine at free pools and charge your users 1.5% for helping you find blocks...your payout issues will be fixed but we don't need your petty ass 250TH/s you should start your own pool and stop ripping people off... We've never mined on BTC guild, as far as 'breaking' Eligius I'd like to see a source for that. |
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FWIW, here are our shares and payouts while we were on the pool. This is with about 270-290TH and BAN always reported within 5% of our hashrate.
+-------------+--------------------+
| sum(shares) | sum(btc) |
+-------------+--------------------+
| 19440313760 | 15.393149373587221 |
+-------------+--------------------+
At the standard PPS rate (without the claimed bonus) we should have made about 17.8 BTC. With the bonus we should have made ~20 BTC.
So we are currently owed about 2.4 BTC at the standard PPS rate ignoring the bonus.
Let me know when you get things worked out and we'll be back.
Did your pool leave about 18 hours ago roughly? That is when the payouts normalized. If this is the case, maybe it is worth contacting the operator to see if something can be done technically to fix the issue. What he has is no where close to a pool, I mean a pool of miners with no actual pool anyway. But yes when he left is when payments normalized, the same thing happened on bitminter which I hear hes banned from. Also caused issues on eligus and btcguild. Not sure where you're getting your info but we never mined on BTC guild, we left Bitminer due to their toxic community and have since been invited to come back by the admin, however I haven't taken him up on that. We only mined on Eligius shortly due to their payout system issues, however there were no issues with payout calculations there. Please give a source for your statement that we 'caused issues' anywhere. Or maybe you're just trying to start drama. If a pool can't handle 250-300TH of extra hash, that's not due to anything we've done. All we do is submit shares, just like any other group of miners. |
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