Let's say we have a 66 bit private key. Such key must be a multiple of smaller number
This works fast as hell. It is SO fast that you can barely see the numbers on the display. Flashing characters on the screen.... But it's not fast enough for Puzzles over 60...Need GPU.... Soooo nomachine, how fast is fast? How fast can your script on your PC solve a 60 bit key? You say it’s fast, just not fast enough to solve puzzles over 60, so how fast is fast? Hey hey now, it's not cool talking to a colleague like that, soooo is obvious you are making fun of his speed, lets say the script is so fast that it flashes on the screen very fast, and lets leave it at that. Instead of smearing each other, lets develop an algorithm to show the world *who we are.
Proposal untested : Subtract 2 from target, set as target2, set original key as target1, subtract n/2 from target1 and perform point torsion on it, subtract 1 from target2 then perform point torsion on it, now either sub or add the results together, check to see if you get any results. Yesterday I managed to definitively find the value of last char of unknown keys, but I forgot it after going to get some coffee. 😐 I can't manage testing anything right now cause I resent myself for that. Proposal 2 : normal division not using torsion, halve the target first, set as target2, original point as target1, divide both by starting range = n/2-100, end range = n/2+100, then add/sub results, check for a solution. P2-2 : we need to find a way to get a composite number, even if it's as large as 255bit, remember do everything over scalar first, if our key is : T2 :
000000000000000000000000000000014551231950b75fc4402da1732fc9bebf Key inverse, -n : fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffd755db9cd5e9140777fa4bd19a06c8282
Now cut off this part from it :
fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff000000000000000000000000000000000
By subtracting from target -n to have : T1
0000000000000000000000000000000d755db9cd5e9140777fa4bd19a06c8282 Set T1 and T2, do the division sub/add, with n/2-100 etc, check the result. I know you will see the distance between them being divided, but try to divide one of the results which has many trailing zeros, divide by power of 2, until you reach to fractions, you will see that there is a possibility to do the same with unknown keys. Try these, I know you can find something, after all you taught me how to do point operations on EC. 😉 You know where to find my test scripts on project development. (Ground breaking etc).lol
*= who are we really? We will deal with this identity crisis later.😂 |
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This would preserve the past accurate feedback
But with all this, it would mean the DT system would need an overhaul, and I don't think we are all ready for the drama that ensures afterward.
What past valid feedbacks? In case you and any other member here have your heads in to the sands, let me shout out so you can hear, how many of scammers, cheaters get exposed/doxxed after getting caught? Have you wondered why they never stop popping up like mushrooms the more you catch them? You can't fight them like this, instead you have to educate the community in a way that they become vigilant and informed enough, not to fall for the scam.
Instead, you are actively trying to stop something that can easily be gamed. There are many farming services/ shilling services providing you with enough "bounty cheaters" "scammers" with low fees so that you could continuously catch them and tag them, then you'd become a useful member to get on DT. Once you are there, we'd have this current situation, you can easily spend $10,000 to become a reputable member with hundreds of "good" feedbacks. Note, the price is much much lower than $10k, I give them credit by saying $10k, you could get positive trust by trading $1000 back and forth with a few old gang members.
Anyways I wouldn't trust anonymous individuals with money, no matter what, unless they reveal their ID for the public. Edit, separated paragraphs to make it clear I'm not directly talking with Bitcoin_Arena, rather saying things in general. Lol |
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Most people here just wasting their time trying to solve things that are unsolvable with current hardware (at least hardware available to them).
Even using blind random cracking - realistically it's not gonna be solved in any sane amount of time.
Agreed, with current tools it's the same as before, extremely difficult to solve the DLP, but one has to penetrate deep into the unknown territories of math and elliptic curves, then you will realize everything is in the group order N, for each curve you'd need to find the weaknesses of N instead of G, or P.
Just to show one example, take this key : 000000000000000000000000000000014551231950b75fc4402da1732fc9bebf When you first look at it, what do you think would happen if you divide it by 2? Normally you'd say a key with 31 leading zeros. But in reality the result mod n is : 8000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 Can you see the difference? There are also other hidden properties, keys etc. One thing you should think about, is there a way to reduce a number to a perfect composite number and then easily dividing that composite number to reach a range close to 2^65? I believe with a certain subtraction tricks, we can do that, I have done it, but I know the key so it doesn't count, I want to know how to operate with 2 unknown points without knowing the distance between them, whether or not we can reach a composite point as a result of either subtraction and or division. Like : 59, if we know the range, we could subtract it from 100 to have 41, now all we need is to subtract 9 from 41 to get to 32, and now we can safely divide 32 by 2 a few times to reach 8, where 8 is our desired small range where we can brute force under an hour. The question is, how can we determine that 9 is the right key to reach 32? By operating with scalar mod n of course, first we study and learn then we go for our targets in points. |
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Bump this topic since we have a new drama.the DT score of the one who left the tag will drop.
It not work like that, the tag will be removed, but the score is still same as long as there's no user exclude or distrust him. Surely he can leave a same feedback to that account, but it's somewhat like a troll where you still selfish and not want to accept if the feedback you left wasn't appropriate according to the community, which would make other users to exclude or distrust him. So you bump this because 2 DT members having troubles in paradise?
Next subject on agenda, requesting a new system to support minorities, on top of that we'd need another system for human rights, animal rights etc. But this is not a government/ nation, I thought it was at some point, but none of you(with a few exceptions) here really deserve any thing good, I came back after years to receive more tags, but do you see anyone doing something about it? It's because I hold no power, an ordinary person's reputation is worthless for this community, and as you know, sometimes you are on top, sometimes under, the time for me to be on top is around the corner God willing.😉 |
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Hmm, is there a python script to get the public key from a Transaction.
I don't know about any scripts but you can simply use this site to convert an address to public key and vice versa, though it only does that if the address exist on blockchain, meaning it has been used, otherwise it'd take breaking 2 hash functions to reverse an address back to public key. May I ask why do you need that? All exposed public keys of this puzzle already are on page 1, there is no need to have such a script. Also may I interest you in a few mind boggling , reality bending ultimate hack scripts developed by myself?😉 |
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Main question is, how can we guess the first few digits? If even if we guess the 4 first digits correctly, the fifth digit would cause a problem if we make a mistake.
sincerely i have not investigated much in this technique, due to lack of time. I only know that dividing by 5 with this technique, you will not worry about floating numbers. I have applied the technique in 2 rounds and everything seems to be on the right track. honestly do not know how many rounds are possible, but in my opinion it is a good idea. ........ we obtain. target=1185429467683753 R= 545429467683753 Will this work with your script of dividing by 3 you have posted before? Or do you have a script for this one as well? Ok. I'm working on Kangaroo Twimi algorithm on hash160. I don't know if it will work, but this is an idea. It uses two EC_POINT objects (K and W) and iteratively moves them around the elliptic curve by adding random steps until they land on the same point. When the Kangaroo and Wallaby points collide, the algorithm returns the discrete logarithm k. ..... rest is similiar as Bytea HASH160 Search from here : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1306983.msg63029958#msg63029958100% OpenSSL code... I wish I knew anything about coding, I could give my opinion, but your idea is great, I can work on different values until I get a result, but could you also work on a scalar mod n script alone please? I mean just scalar mod n, no EC involved, scratch that, I believe if you can write a script where it takes both scalar and points and does the magic on both but with the ability to output points for scalar results. If you don't understand me, I will explain later, I'm in pain now for walking a lot today.😉
Anyone knows anything with more fire power than sage cell or google colab etc? I'm running some scripts on them but they can't handle the load, I'm trying to find lambda and beta for different curve parameters, mapping points from secp256k1 to a 128 bit curve to see if it can be done. I was thinking, why there is no such infrastructure like sage cell, or Gcolab etc already available for blockchain/Bitcoin developers to use? Should we all appeal to our beloved dragon to sponsor something like that? I think if we all collectively ask nicely he will make it happen, right? 😉
[Digaran's note, consecutive posts merged due to another post being removed from between my posts.] 😉 |
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I'm waiting to read about your project, won't go searching for it, because you posted here, you should at least give us 10 lines of introduction. We are not interested to know the name of your project, first tell us about it, when we show interest to know more, you'd reveal the name. I just hope it's not related to LN/ICO. Because then I'd need to update myself with new ICO tactics.
Ps, back in 2017, what was your username?
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I know this is not just about the plagiarizing part, but your feedback is about that, which resulted in retaliation, so as I said before, since both of you are on DT, negotiation is the way to go, According to screenshots, he seems to be mature enough to apologize and move past this situation while you are not. You know the only way you can become a great person is by accepting your mistakes and correcting them, it could happen many times until you learn not to make the same mistakes, that's when you move to the next level of maturity which is to become a great person.
Talking about abuse, don't stick to one abuser, call them all out.
Btw, was there an issue about your email address? I say this because you have changed it recently. Just curious, maybe it was due to security concerns.
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So FATF is coming to crypto after all these years, finally they get it. This makes you wonder, it's not the world elites who run the global policy making machine but rather a bunch of mentally happy people, after 14 years they got this idea.
If anyone doesn't know what is FATF, it is Financial Action Task Force, established to control the "money" in the world, meaning that they would want to know about a transaction even if it was just to buy a cup of coffee, just to make sure there is no money laundering and terrorist financing involved. If you wanna know whether they monitor all your transactions or not, check to see if your government has signed up to join this task force or not, if they have, you are already exposed.
Welcome to 2030 agenda(a plan for the "new world order", or "novus ordo seclorum").
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This is normal when 2 people negotiate about a compromise, each one offers a solution and both agree on a final decision, but if you tagged him for plagiarizing, this should be up to staff whether they interact with such cases or not, maybe they have decided to let this slide, now why would you want to execute the prisoner when the king has forgiven him? What he is doing is not extortion, this is typical where international politics are at work.😉
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You built a career here on lies, shenanigans, deception, abuses and theft. Why are you acting as the judge in a case where you are the accused, I mean can you see the problem here? DT members are "supposedly trusted" members of this forum, not only trusted for trade related deals but also for their judgements, have you ever seen a judge in court to act as the judge of his own case if he was the accused?
IMO, people like you could be trusted with millions when doing a business deal, but you are not fit for a "judge" position if you see no problem in your last post I quoted. Let me check your trust feedbacks.😉
Edit, anyways, I think everybody knows neg, pos, neutral feedback is no longer considered to hold any value for business, since business related trust is now based on flags, trust feedback really means nothing, yet you have to remove any one who misuses DT power. |
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"Trust system is not moderated" this lie should be corrected. I have seen it repeatedly mentioned by everyone, if it's not moderated why all DT members are included in admin's trust list? Maybe they need to say "we don't pay DT's to moderate the trust system"? Wait isn't earning money the sole reason as to why people game the system to get on DT?
Here is another joke I like it very much, "Feedback isn't moderated (except for obvious cases such as pure advertising, hundreds of identical empty/gibberish reports on one user) for the same reason as scams - too much room for abuse. my heroes! 😉
OP, here is another joke, I tag you then you can contact me to solve our issues, you see? Either way I have the advantage if I'm on DT. Where have I seen the same similar policy? Oh right, governments take someone or something as hostage and then say lets negotiate. (Thanks but no thanks)
Btw, read admin's policy? Opinion? Forum's official rule? Posted by jokers10, the level of respect DT members have shown to that statement is mind blowing. |
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BINGO
Why are you brute forcing WIF? To demonstrate to you that even 10 is not a problem. The problem is that we are not dealing here with 2, 6, 8 or 10 missing characters... But with 18 specifically for Puzzle 66..... It is useless, whatever method you use.  I'm not talking about missing characters or puzzle 66, I'm talking about a way to determine last characters of a private key by working with points.
These are natural behaviors when you're working on a curve over a finite field. You need to study them more (properties of curves over prime fields, pairings, embedding degree, etc) in order to avoid attributing a magical aura to every result that pops out.
There is no magical aura, and there is no natural behaviour, everything depends on group order, working with points without working on scalar is pointless, in reality we don't need to work with points alone, but since we don't know the private key we work with points. E.g, if you divide 16577/7 = 2368.142857, divide 16477/7 = 2353.857143, now dividing 16576/7 = 2368, now all we need to do is finding what key results in 0.142857 and 0.85143 when divided, and by what number. After that having all keys between 2353 and 2368 saved for comparing is easy. This is just an example. |
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BINGO
Why are you brute forcing WIF? Don't you know going beyond public key generation is wasting time if you don't have enough hardware? It would be nice if you could write a script which could with 100% validity tell you the last 2 characters of a private key by operating with points. I can find them when I know both keys, or when I only know the distance between 2 points, it also doesn't matter what the distance is, that's why working with all hexadecimal values is important to find out and study the behaviour of each character. After preliminary test, God willing I will post my method if I think it doesn't break the EC. But funny thing is most of the things I post (ECC math related) I truly believe they "have" the potential but I just post them to see maybe an expert can get an idea out of it. Apparently I'm delusional until I'm not. By then it'd be too late to pay attention. |
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I could care less if ratimov is or isn't in DT, but I do have a question for you. Would you care if he didn't - you? There are so many that have made DT due to the new system that do not really belong there, but you are not complaining about them, only the 1 who tagged you.
I'm not trying to discredit anything you wrote and i'll be honest, I didn't read it all as it's just too much. Did you try to solve your issue before making this topic?
Would you care yourself, I mean have you ever cared? Here nobody actually own a pair of balls to speak up.
Why? Because men shapeshift into PUSSY when money and their neck is on the line, in another words, a bunch of scum parasites with no good use other than sucking blood out of any community they join. HAVE any of you seen a DT opening a thread to talk/argue/ discuss/debate with someone they have a problem with? Yes? Then they are the real men, others are as described above, PUSSY. Just look at reputation board, all they do is either attacking each other or regular members, if you see someone speaking up without the fear of retaliation, that's a man. Others? PUSSY.
Now tell me, who is the big GUN around these woods, someone who everyone would respect and follow his examples and listen to his advices? Someone when says: this is not right, then everyone respect his judgement and listen? You can't find one because such a person doesn't exist. What a comedy, should someone write a wall of text to convince you of injustice? That means you are incapable of determining a blatant abuse by yourself, you are either waiting for someone with a pair to speak up, in order to muster the courage and join him, or you must be drunk not fully knowing what you are doing. OTHERWISE, this mentality always kicks in : "why should I cause trouble and make enemies for no reason?" Yeah the survival instinct. Guess what? This is why none of you will ever succeed and find true happiness in life, you will continue to live like this for the rest of your life.
What can be done? Get rid of bullies, trust abusers, you will see better people will replace them, and by doing so, nobody would dare to misuse the system. This applies to any system especially all the governments which are the sources of all the nation's misery and despair. This mentality kicks in : ( how would I pay my rent, my debts, how can I survive if I lose my job, my position?) That's because nobody believes and trust in God anymore. The source of humanity's disgusting fate of living like animals, until you trust God, this is your life. |
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Here visit this other puzzle thread, there are all the intel you need about cracking tools, but may I interest you about a sets of earth shattering ultimate hack tools developed by myself by skiing on people's script and claiming them as mine? It's free to use you only have to cover my back, like when whiners start their routine whining, you just come here taking my side, Ok? I feel like cornered.😂
I'm currently working on a new thing, I'm trying to find ending characters or at least 2 last chars of a private key, it's really difficult but God willing if I manage to figure that out, I will do absolutely nothing with it just like I haven't followed up on changing a key in a way to make a composite number divisible by up to 2^240, though I know how to do it, but it only works for keys with at least first 28-32 characters being 0xf. As I said before, if you try to divide 2 keys and subtract/add the results, you would either get their sum, which is sometimes less than 34-38 in hex, or you would actually get their subtracted value. Something interesting is the fact about dividing a key, has anyone managed to divide 1 through 15 by different divisor to see the left most characters of resulting scalar? Yeah do that and you will realize the starting hex chars of your result depends on the ending chars of your target. |
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The comma can be moved in any direction
It's not just moving the comma, it's reducing the target. from 1185429467683753 to 785429467683753
Can you do the same with the public key?
yes. Even if you can, it doesn't give you the range of the private key.
If you perfect your division technique and you manage to reduce enough, you could for example. 1185429467683753 If you manage to reduce to 1439467683753 1185429467683753-1439467683753 1183990000000000 obtaining the first 3 digits of your goal..Discarding the 3 digits that follow, which would be the error range. Basically this technique is based on reducing pubs without losing the last digits of the pk so that when you subtract you identify the first digits. Then, once you have the first digits, you have the basis to continue. Main question is, how can we guess the first few digits? If even if we guess the 4 first digits correctly, the fifth digit would cause a problem if we make a mistake. Something to demonstrate, for example if we guess the last 2 hex chars of the target, we can divide by a 3 digit number, but if we do that, we'd need to generate 256 keys and can only divide up to 1024, so we'll have 256 keys divided by 1024, then we will have to generate 256 keys as a guess for each one of those first 256 keys, well just now writing this I realize we can indeed guess the last 2 chars and divide by 1024 and continue until we reach a very small range easily brute force able. Or do we need to guess more than 2 ending characters to divide by 1024?
Disclaimer, I take no responsibility for any damages caused by my published studies, I am an independent researcher and publish my findings on public domain. For transparency. |
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Op, you should learn a few things here, first of all Satoshi and theymos established this forum originally to discuss on how to develop and grow the system, any earning through signature, bounty etc was a by-product of that.
However theymos did everything in his power to help people, he is the one you should thank, Satoshi is just a gold hoarding dragon sleeping on his stash to keep them safe. Lol
Second, most of the people, especially DT members are racist, they are also on the look out to tag anyone and anything they don't like, so by creating such topics you just dropped some blood into the water and sharks will investigate to find something and get rid of you.
Note, if you come here saying you are an American or European, you'll receive an autoimmune vaccine.
God bless your family and good luck.
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he said, he thought Satoshi was some Japanese guy He definitely was. I have many confirmations for that fact. First, start from "readme.txt" in "BitCoin v0.01 ALPHA" (yes, that 0.01 version is present here, which is also significant, and explains, why the magic number 100 is used as a version number separator). But in the "src" folder, there is another "readme.txt", and you can read there: Compilers Supported
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MinGW GCC (v3.4.5)
Microsoft Visual C++ 6.0 SP6 That second compiler was most likely used by Satoshi, because there were "std::min" and "std::max" issues in the source code, that were specific to "Visual C++" compiler. And, guess what, if you try to find that compiler, you will find this one: https://archive.org/details/microsoft-visual-c-6.0-standard-editionThen, guess what: installing it on a non-Japanese Windows XP is a disaster, and ends up with displaying all of those characters as "?". Also, it explains "¥" character, that was present in paths, instead of slashes/backslashes. If you don't believe me, then try to find another "Microsoft Visual C++ 6.0 SP6" version anywhere: you will notice, that this Japanese version is the most popular one. And if you want to use it, you need a Japanese version of Windows, because in other cases, the whole installation process will be very painful. Also, if you try to run "BitCoin" client on Windows XP, you will notice a lot of things. For example, that running more than one instance of "0.01" version is not that easy, as you could expect, because the port 8333 will be already used by the first instance, and the whole traffic management requires activating another "main" function, and some other changes like that, or some weird stuff like "port forwarding". Also, by exploring more things, you can note that Windows XP with Japanese language version, was used on his physical machine, and no VirtualBox or other virtualization tool was there. But, first things first, installing the same compiler as Satoshi, the same tool for PDF as Satoshi, and other things like that, should give you enough proofs to start with. And if you need a proof that Satoshi really used those things, then explore file metadata, and note that if you want to fake everything, it is extremely painful to do that correctly, and it is then easier to just use the real tools without tampering with the data. So do you know how many of Japanese versions of XP were sold during 2005 and 2007? Because he had started working on the project 2 years before the release. Knowing the type of RNG used in that period is also good, another thing, he used a single core CPU, that's why he later added multiprocessor support for mining. It is also worth a try to find all the graduates from IT university of Japan and follow up on them to see what they are doing right now, I bet one of them is super rich building super computers in Japan.😉 |
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As a developer of 30 years I decided to fully understand SHA256 I would create a valid sha256 hash using binary only and then see how far I could reverse each step.
What were you developing in 30 years? If it was anything crypto/ security related, you should contact your clients and tell them they are compromised. 😅 Kidding.
Welcome on board! I can't really understand your goal here, why are you trying to reverse a sha256 of a hex private key, which is BTW 17 characters and it's hash has no use in at least in Bitcoin. Private keys are irrelevant to hashes and addresses, once you generate your priv key, then derive your public key from it, after that you perform sha256 on the public key and then rmd160 on that sha256 hash, it's not over yet, When you have rmd160 you'd add version/network byte then use a double sha256 to derive the checksum in order to have an address. So if you want to reverse anything, try by reversing the rmd160 hash of puzzle #66, when you find which sha256 hash outputs the rmd160, you have either found a collision or the original hash, but knowing that is impossible, anyways after having the sha256 hash, you'd need to reverse it back to the public key, and guess what? There is no need to reverse 2 hash functions to find the public key, you already have access to public keys of puzzle 130, 135 etc which are housing more coins than 66. I suggest you focus on public keys if you are good with math.😉 |
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