LOL, some of you guys are real losers. What's with the anger? I cant get behind a few coins?

LOL..

However that design doesn't include protection against denial-of-service, i.e. where either party repeatedly (perhaps through numerous identities) initiates the transaction but does not complete it, thus causing the other party to enter an endless loop of delay. One way to throttle DoS in the case would be to charge a transaction fee, except who do you pay the transaction fee to if it is decentralized? You'd prefer the transaction fee goes to the ether but who can be trusted to generate an address and throwaway the private key? An altcoin could include a transaction type for spending to the ether, but I don't think Bitcoin has one or can nLockTime be set to infinity? Much better if transaction fees to the ether could be eliminated or minimized.

I gave a clear explanation of market movement of cloak this morning , and what happened ? I was right. Everything i said as happened.
Been riding cloak since June and i do not see anything stopping its path, cloak is the next gen coin.

Seriously.

This will free up a lot of my time...

Ya I have monitoring programs, CG Remote etc...

I don't want any weak entry points on my network, so I keep all PC's fully updated at all times...

It's crazy running 30 rigs on Windows 8.1, every week I spend half a day on OS updates... They always say "critical" updates and give fuck all info on what's contained.

I'm having a play with PiMP at the moment, it seems nice, I'm close to making the switch.

I've got the Ubuntu 12.04.4 x64 distro on my nodes.

English is, err, English. 'z's' in words is an Americanism.

As Bitcoin was invented by someone who writes with very good English, and is probably British, which you can tell from the words that are spelled (isn't that annoying  ) using 'our' and not just 'or' such as colour and not color, I think you need to start using British English and drop the Americanism.

In honor of Evan being a Yank, I can live with either versions, and I often switch between the two just to make the Yanks feel better about their accomplishment at gaining their Liberty from the British and sticking two fingers up at the Crown by changing the Queen's English on purpose.

Just my 2 Duffs worth.

 

Thankz luigi1111. My 'inability' to get the s/z thing right iz becauze I'm in Auztralia and we zpell ztuff like the Britizh do. Ha!

Yes, a very valid point. It's all too easy to take shots at western governments for a thousand things that are wrong, but much of what citizens experience in "non-democratic" (and I know that's a huge discussion point in and of itself) countries with regards to a fear-based style of living involves the likes of which many of us on here would have no real clue about. In any forum like this you'll have a broad array of views from all different perspectives. What I think many of us often forget is that our experience of life is just that, it's "ours". Because someone has a completely different set of viewpoints doesn't makes theirs "wrong", but everyone's at differing levels of development and knowledge acquisition. I have over 50 years behind me; I've travelled the world extensively. I've worked in hundreds of different types of organisations (often in a consulting capacity). I've seen a lot, been a lot and dreamed a lot. There's much to be hopeful for in this wonderful world and there's much to overcome. There are good people in the US government doing good work. Not everyone's part of a mindless juggernautistic all consuming monster behemoth that's gonna eat us all (but unfortunately a huge number of people are). Change can happen though and DRK has a role to play in helping government and society get off the debt binge and reserve banking monetisation that's created so much inequality and a frightful system that's likely to go very bad pretty soon.

Yes, it's a pretty good article. Both my inner and outer grammar nazis cringed in unison. Especially for this corker:

"Darkcoin has been spearheaded by team lead Evan Duffield – who has went public with his identity, which has lended legitimacy to the project."

Fanatic does not imply a negative connotation, though people may mistakenly perceive it as such.  Its shortened form, fan, is something we use in sports all of the time.

My focus on price may not be justified in your eyes, or the other far more aggressive sorts, but that doesn't mean its not a valid metric.

I can understand why people misperceived my comments, but I can't understand the borderline sociopathic responses.  I simply am wondering why there is a tension between innovation and price.  I see lots of nethash but the price is not reflecting that.  I don't see volume on an exchange either way (price has been stable).  I get it that some (I use some because I don't view the constant posters on this thread as representative of everyone who owns DRK but rather a...passionate...subset of them) don't care about price.  I think a lot do.  Not that its the end all be all but its one factor to consider.  DRK has been out for 6 months, I expect it to mature like most coins.  I think it has great potential but I want to see a wider audience agree with that assessment and reflect it on the market.

I appreciate your psychological analysis but I also feel that those people attacking me should do some reflection as well (not that I expect much).  Honestly I did not bring any invective but I was immediately met with hostility which indicates insecurity.

If you actually read my first post, nothing was confrontational.  My choice of words was merely misinterpreted and perhaps that is due to ignorance.  I will employ simpler words if that results in better comprehension but I maintain nothing I said was inflammatory (provocative, perhaps, but this is a discussion thread and discussions often revolved around provocative topics or else they aren't really discussion but rather conversations).

DRK has been out for 6 months, I expect it to mature like most coins.

Forceflow I can understand you feeling the way you do. Interacting on forums like this is fraught with knee-jerk reactions, misinterpretations, extremism, blanket assertions and sweeping generalisations. Dipping one's toe into the unstable waters of a thread such as this one can result in a savage response from people that you'd otherwise likely find very sociable at a party (maybe not camosoul....he's a special case; but I'm quite fond of him even though I have no desire to own a gun!)

I'd like to try and break down how an initial posting like you've made results in the responses you've received. Call it the psychology of entering an Internet forum and think about how this might equate to walking into a room full of people you've never met at a party. When you post into a thread like this, if you're not known, you only have to make a statement that's even potentially/possibly suggesting slight antagonism and you'll open up a barrage of whoop-ass retorts that'll leave you peppered in holes. That's just how this stuff works. It's the equivalent of walking into a party and making unfriendly, perhaps even contentious comments, to the people there about how they're dressed, what music they're listening to, etc. So let me take your original post and look at how it's resulted in the responses:


"Fanatics" - given you've not been present in the thread it's an adjective that's hardly designed to endear you to people that have been here for a while. It suggests people here aren't mentally stable or have their act together and it's bordering on offensive.
"somnolescent prices" - a pretty fancy phrase. I had to look it up. After your opening use of "fanatics" it's probably made people think "Who's this wanker then?"


This is the language of a day trader just interested in P&D. When you consider the whole DRK offering is still in beta and the stuff's being worked on at an impressive rate for the extraordinary technology being developed, this isn't an accurate statement. DRK is four times the market cap of its nearest anon competitor. As camosoul said, focussing on the price is entirely the wrong issue at this early stage. So with this second sentence you've taken yourself further into likely "troll" territory with the people here that have to fend off lurkers who come to this thread just to rubbish DRK, and for no other purpose.


That's a viewpoint based on what? That the price did go up into the 0.025 territory in May? What criteria does the current price meet (or not meet) that would make your statement "...price has been low" accurate? And who are you to make such an assertion? Do you see that this third sentence of yours is again contentious and frankly, against all that we know is going on and likely to happen in the near future, quite arrogant. Now with this third sentence you've put yourself firmly into the "troll" category (rightly or wrongly....on here there is no body language to read, no external cues, just words, that's why you have to choose them so carefully).


By this point, your fourth sentence has little credibility because of the manner in which you've delivered the first three. Maybe there's some validity in what you're saying but I think the number of people that would be "living" next to their mining rigs and therefore have them set to lower power/lower fan speeds, would be quite minimal. I think the focus miners have and where pools choose to apply their resources is a far more complex subject than that. You've made a statement that, along with the first three sentences, just makes people think you're putting shit on DRK and everyone that's so passionate about it.

So, with this initial post you put many offside from the beginning. The art of entering a thread like this and engaging successfully requires careful consideration of how to put one's ideas forward in a non-confrontational way (just like the art of approaching someone in a bar you'd like to have a relationship with....start off badly and you'll last only a minute or two). It's then so very hard to find your way back after you've set off everyone's rejection of you.

Many on here will think I've just wasted my breath but I'm quite convinced the medium of Internet forums like this results in thousands of good people being rejected (or effectively rejecting themselves) due to these basic aspects of human interaction being misunderstood. And that's unfortunate.

So let me see if I understand you correctly, if one doesn't share your mindless conformity mindset is a tin-foil hat crazies and acts like rude, abusive 7 year olds.
You know when someone comes to a community offering help with an elevated sense of self righteousness by starting offending its members it is usually received with a defensive/agressive kind of argument. You know this don't you?
A perspective about how reality works is just that, a perspective, not truth.

Just a tip as Ignition75 said: You want to be shown respect, give respect... and maybe, just maybe you should let that sink in before you expose your weaknesses again...

My diction is 100% accurate. [because] Fanatic is all I see.

luigi1111 do you mean me or Ignition75 (or Forceflow perhaps)? Ha!
If it's me, thanks, I'd like to post more often.

Well DRK need about 400% grow to come back to its peak lvl, and cloak only 50%  

sure it is  
i suggest you this one:

I think you've made some very pertinent points Ignition75 about Forceflow's posting and the mindset behind it. However, as someone that's read pretty much every page of this thread and is heavily invested in DRK, I do worry that all of us who are so excited and committed to Darkcoin are a bit over zealous in denouncing anyone that challenges us.

I'd like to see more accurate rebuttals of someone's bearish views on DRK, and some level of grace demonstrated when it's apparent they're here simply to muddy the water. Now we all know when you get someone who's so lacking in awareness of how governments work (i.e. that the public's perception of governments' power is as much about governments' maintenance of a smoke screen and the broad acquiescence of a public more interested in bread and circuses than standing up for their freedom) it's very hard within the limits of typing text in these response boxes to articulate why their "but the government won't allow it" statements are so naive.

But I think it would be better to try and correct misunderstandings rather than engagement in a "you're obviously a completely fuckwit" responses. I think some of the notions people we're labelling as "trolls" bring to this discussion need to be discussed.

For instance, it is possible that some sort of repeat of the 9/11 terrorist attack will happen and Darkcoin could get inexorably mixed up in the ensuing investigation and held up as a key funding facilitation mechanism the terrorists used. Do you think Darkcoin would be safe then? I expect the public backlash and draconian pursuing of everyone and anyone involved in Darkcoin would make the MacCarthyism communist witch hunts of the 1950s look tame by comparison. This is just one of the risks Darkcoin could be subject to. We need to take some of the notions people that come to this thread with and discuss them or we're all just on a continual "DRK DRK DRK. Give us a D, give us a K...." cheer leader session which ultimately isn't healthy.

Above all, let ensure we discuss all aspects right to the outer edges of the envelope so we all have the best chance of making this THE enduring crypto-currency of all time.

Shadowcoin is gay. And BTW Librexcoin has a mobile staking wallet. Also We prefer mining our coins to staking, staking is gay.

Hope my comments didnt offend anyone here...

Market dictates the price...remember that.  The sell orders are real, else they wouldnt be there. If a sell order is at the exchange it can be bought, so yes its real. The price hasnt rebounded because aside from small pumps and dumps, the market sentiment is that darkcoin is still overpriced and investors are looking at other investment opportunities. 99.9% of people reading this comment will know that I'm right, but will refute this. Anyway, listen to your gut instincts. I can see that you are concerned about your investment as well you should be.  Good Luck.

the feeling that you get when buying XMR with DRK is amazing.