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821  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 19, 2019, 09:56:26 PM

I am thinking that the cost are the same after the halvening.

Only the new supply that comes out of that is reduced in half.


If costs are the same, and you get half BTC on average because the "new supply" is reduced in half, the mining cost per BTC effectively doubles.


* All other factors remaining equal, as stated before.

I would not characterize the end sum of the amount of reward as "cost," but instead profits per BTC that is reduced by half because of costs that remain the same and reward that is half.  Otherwise, I have already made my points regarding the matter.   Wink  Semantics, perhaps?

Jay you are hopelessly confusing revenue and profit
822  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 19, 2019, 09:55:24 PM
Bitcoin is like America.  The price will eventually do the right thing, after trying all other alternatives.

823  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 19, 2019, 11:07:22 AM
Bitgo drops support for BSV, tells users to buy BTC

https://cointelegraph.com/news/bitgo-to-users-swap-bitcoin-sv-for-btc-before-hard-fork-stuns-wallet
824  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 19, 2019, 10:37:34 AM
Where Do we wanna go from here?? Someone can fill in that question ?  Grin

More down before up imho.
825  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 19, 2019, 04:10:25 AM
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Bitcoin $BTC has apparently held at important support



... worth noting here, this represents the first doubling of the bottom from $3.2k to $6.4k.
Took ~14 months so setting the cadence for the new bull wave inside the secular mega-bull trend.
Expect a $12.8k interim bottom in ~7months, July 2020?

Also mostly in line with masterluc's amazing call from way back when ...

Too early.  A $12.8k bottom after breaking ATH in 2021. 
826  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 18, 2019, 10:49:43 PM

It is faith in mathematics and rationality of the humans.
Still faith, but a lesser one.


Nah mate, you don't need faith in mathematics, that's an oxymoron. Faith is a belief in something you cannot prove, like religion as you said, but very much unlike math(s).

To be pedantic about it, all of mathematics lay upon lists of unprovable axioms.

827  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 18, 2019, 08:10:57 PM
Observing a "tremendous" amount of shorts getting absolute savaged right now, and liquidated...


You are almost making me feel bad for 'em.... NOT Tongue

No need to feel sorry for people shorting five months before the halvening.
828  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 18, 2019, 08:00:22 PM
What is ownership rate?
9% of the population? What are we talking about? US? World?
No source data... looks like bullshit to me.


https://provokeinsights.com/

Shitty webpage built with stock photos.  Probably some guy working out of his garage.
829  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 18, 2019, 11:02:17 AM
Edit - Just fucked HM’s OCD Wink

Damn you LFC !11!!!
830  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 18, 2019, 10:22:30 AM
This pleases me

831  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 18, 2019, 10:21:16 AM
832  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 18, 2019, 10:19:14 AM
833  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 18, 2019, 10:12:11 AM
The man is such a Bargain hunter that he wears the same shirt in multiple memes, its cheaper than buying more shirts. He needs that money for more corn.

I finally found what you were referencing... It took an entire google search for "Bargain Boyz" to find it. Its a great little show  Cheesy  I hope they do more episodes in the future.

Spoiler: the most excitin' barg of all turns out to be a 1987 Rubix Cube which he pays $400 for.

Well now.  I have learnt something today.

Lol, it is a good show. I first mentioned Bargain Boyz some months ago not knowing about the show, just making a generic nickname in reference to shrewd investors waiting to buy cheap coins at compelling bargain prices.

After making a few memes I googled it to see if some business had the name in hopes they could provide meme material, then I stumbled upon the real Bargain Boyz. Australian billionaires who make youtube videos while they wait to spend their vast fortunes on cheap corn.

I thought they all had speech impediments.  Then I realized they are Australian.
834  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 18, 2019, 08:57:43 AM
The man is such a Bargain hunter that he wears the same shirt in multiple memes, its cheaper than buying more shirts. He needs that money for more corn.

I finally found what you were referencing... It took an entire google search for "Bargain Boyz" to find it. Its a great little show  Cheesy  I hope they do more episodes in the future.

Spoiler: the most excitin' barg of all turns out to be a 1987 Rubix Cube which he pays $400 for.

Well now.  I have learnt something today.
835  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 18, 2019, 01:00:19 AM
I don’t think it works like that.  These aren’t futures in the conventional sense. 

For a long position on Bitfinex you borrow $US to buy BTC on physical market

For a short position you borrow BTC and sell on physical market.

Someone will quickly correct me if I am wrong.

In that case the BTC will either have to be lent by the counterparty or sold by them. I admit I don't know how Bitfinex works.

Are we saying that Bitfinex itself is therefore acting as the defacto trade counterparty ?  That sounds distinctly dodgy.

Yes you lend $ or BTC on BFX. BFX is not the counterparty, just the exchange. 
836  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 18, 2019, 12:55:08 AM

This happens too often. However, so far this year, I've been saying one same thing with everyone who talked about bitcoin: "The best performing asset of 2019!"

P.S. It's getting a bit frustrating to see that there has been no strong (at least short-term) fightback by the bulls - I hope this changes in the next few days!

We will bottom in either December or January imho.  We are within $1,000 of the bottom I expect.
837  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 18, 2019, 12:53:14 AM
I don’t think it works like that.  These aren’t futures in the conventional sense. 

For a long position on Bitfinex you borrow $US to buy BTC on physical market

For a short position you borrow BTC and sell on physical market.

Someone will quickly correct me if I am wrong.
838  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 17, 2019, 11:37:15 PM
Good buying right now given we are finally undershooting the fractal.  



Thanks for TA, but it is not a fractal since nothing here is recurring (so far) vs 2015-2017.
Everything is just random move, albeit i can give you one fundamental that was critical, IMHO, in stopping the bull run in the summer and it starts with F, not a T.

BTW, my end of the year game entry is quite possible since we are still descending.
Disgusted by seemingly pitiful year end.

No commonality here at all.

839  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 17, 2019, 09:55:30 PM
Most bullish sign today - https://blog.kraken.com/post/3355/kraken-otc-acquires-circle-trade/

Circle got rid of their consumer-facing service just a few short months before the bull run kicked off. Now they've gotten rid of their whale service too.

Excellent.  Just added to my long. 

840  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 17, 2019, 09:45:57 PM
Good buying right now given we are finally undershooting the fractal.  

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