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821  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ANTMINER S3 Discussion and Support Thread. on: December 17, 2014, 12:19:13 AM
I do not wish to "rub salt in the wounds" of those who've bricked their machines, but the cardinal rule with this throw away tech is "if it ain't broke, do not fix it!"
There was NO good reason to update any S3 type rig with the Nov firmware. Yes I know it was supposed to fix the reset button and bitmain publicised its release more than any other I've known, but still, there was no need.
The reason I did not even bat an eyelid was because it purported to fix an issue that I had no need for, aka the reset button. My S3 types were running OK to well and have never had a reason to use the reset button. Most nuances that I have encountered with the S3 types are mostly down to my limited IT knowledge, but a quick google search usually resolves those (if not a post in these hallowed pages).

I am aware this post is not sticky, but I'll say it while I can;

If it ain't broke, don't fix it!
822  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ANTMINER S3 Discussion and Support Thread. on: December 17, 2014, 12:09:14 AM
if anyone wants a $50 voucher for spondoolies, pm me. they've reduced their prices yet again.

*take that* bitmain for putting out a fail firmware.

Use $50SPECIALOFFER when checking out to claim your discount
823  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: S3+ (BM1382) Overclocking with voltage setting on: December 17, 2014, 12:04:31 AM
November firmare as i can see "File System Version Wed Nov 26 10:27:37 CST 2014"
I would steer clear of setting voltages on that. There are quite a few un-knowns about the Nov firmware update (mainly for the PIC), but I have seen a tech from bitmain advising NOT to alter voltage.
A word to a wise man is enough.
824  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Looking to custom build a rig on: December 16, 2014, 08:28:35 PM
I disagree with the crowd that say you should not build your own. You certainly can, as in building a PC, but need to garner a bit of knowledge (not much really) about ASICs in relation to cryptocurrency if you are not going to lose your lot. You'll also have to find suppliers e.g the manufacturers that make the dragon type rigs (the bitmain window closed with the discontinuing of the S1 upgrade kit, that would have been a nice one for you!). If you want to fabricate your own boards, there are ASIC manufacturers that will sell you the chips so you can make your own design, bitfury used to (I think they are bust!), blackarrow do etc.

Depending on why you want to build your own there are options galore if you put the time in to research. If you are just looking to mine and hoard BTC, then you're better off buying off the shelf stuff (bitmain, spoondoolies etc).

Just my 2 pence!
825  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Non-Hashing Module in Dragon 1T on: December 16, 2014, 08:18:47 PM
I also have a similar problem with my 5 module one, but the non hashing module does not show up at all in the gui. I looked at the debug log and the module is not detected on initialisation. this only started about a week ago but was running OK.
826  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ANTMINER S3 Discussion and Support Thread. on: December 16, 2014, 08:10:09 PM
can you actually use the CP2102 USB to serial controller to mine with it hooked up to the built in controller and cgminer running on your pc instead of sh*tmains version.
If you have 2 CP2102, you can connect one to each board and mine away! cgminer will recognise the boards (so long as you have the right drivers compiled in), but you will probably have to run them with the blue wire hack for temp control.
827  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: S3+ (BM1382) Overclocking with voltage setting on: December 16, 2014, 06:24:46 PM
On C1, with 218.75M(default) what voltage should i set, currently is 0760. Is it ok, because im not getting over 950ghs
First, you need to ensure that your C1 is NOT running the November firmware before you can change the default setting. This thread is beyond that scope, but a lot has been said in the S3 discussion and support thread.

The datasheet setting for the freq range of 225 (which I'd say 218.75 falls) is 0.72v, so I'd test with a voltage setting of 0720 which should be more than adequate for that freq.

Again, do at your own risk!
828  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ANTMINER S3 Discussion and Support Thread. on: December 16, 2014, 05:02:05 PM
Now the easy bit, @bitsolutions or any of you clever clogs out there, can you make any sense of that?
Lol, this is not the "easy bit", its a compiled file, you aren't going to get much further than this unless you know how to read assembly.

That was tongue-in-cheek stuff, but yeah, I thought if anyone was going to have a clue about what the hell was going on, it was going to be you. In the meantime, dog1965 seems to have a historic attachement to machine language, so he's going to run a rule over the file .... fingers crossed. Any other clever clogs about and conversant with machine language, do not feel shy!
829  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ANTMINER S3 Discussion and Support Thread. on: December 16, 2014, 02:33:28 PM
push = push onto stack.   pop=pull off of stack  note: first byte in is last byte out so if I push four values "10 20 30 40 whatever" I have to pop the stack four times to get the first value I pushed in.

jne = jump if not equal     compare values if they are not equal the jump back in the loop to LOC_00000010   this is the beginning of the sub loop routine.

ret = return from sub loop once values are equal. Continue processing "keep going down screen"

you get the idea its like C the same structure.   when you compile C this is what it turns it into provided you did not make any error lol.  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
 
I catch the drift .... I think ..... yes, I think so.
Anyhow, is it possible to dis-assemble this machine language further into C++? The image above only shows a small fraction of the data, possibly less than 1% ....
830  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ANTMINER S3 Discussion and Support Thread. on: December 16, 2014, 02:22:48 PM
ah that is assembly language otherwise known as "MACHINE LAUNGUAGE" I used to write programs with it back in the 1980's so I know how to do it I recognize the commands just some new ones in there I see. like I said I am rusty but I think I can do I just have to brush up on the new commands.

Another clever clogs about .... very well. If you need anything from me, post here or drop me a PM.
831  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ANTMINER S3 Discussion and Support Thread. on: December 16, 2014, 01:49:06 PM
<snip> .... </snip> Now, can you kindly tell us how to open and read the code in that hex file please?  <snip> .... </snip>
You can't read it since its compiled.

Not being one to take good advice when given some, after realising the miner_pic.hex file was an ASCII file, I decided to deploy my secret reference material (read google) and seem to have found something, though I can not make any sense of it. I am sure bitsolutions, the clever clogs on our side, can so here goes.

1. My reference material suggested a site to view a hex file: http://en.webhex.net/
On visiting the site, I browsed to the file and uploaded the miner_pic.hex file

2. On the next screen, I scrolled to the bottom of the box and clicked on the Export link

3. When the Export screen was loaded, I un-checked the Headline, Offsets and Readable Characters check-boxes then clicked on the Export button on that screen.

4. I was then presented with the hex data in a web page. I had not mentioned this, but earlier,  my reference material had also suggested to me an online dis-assembler here : http://www2.onlinedisassembler.com/odaweb/

5. I copied all the exported hex data (Ctrl + A then Ctrl + C) then flicked over to the dis-assembler, clicked on the Platform button and changed it to avr (this may b wrong), and in the box below that I pasted the hex data into it.

The page then did a little spinning wheel and after a short while, spewed out something like this:



Now the easy bit, @bitsolutions or any of you clever clogs out there, can you make any sense of that?
832  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ANTMINER S3 Discussion and Support Thread. on: December 16, 2014, 12:17:26 PM
Right, this is getting a bit confusing for me, but never mind, I appreciate all the information.

So to recap, there is absolutely no reason whatsoever to update firmware to the Nov 2014 release aside from the fix to the web UI, which fix can be applied by a single line via ssh.

Am I correct in this or have I missed something that is obvious to you?
I'm not exactly sure if there's any improvements other than the webui fixes. Kind of your choice on whether you prefer to fix the webui or the pic firmware as both appear to have the same end result as far as I can tell however I haven't tested performance differences extensively. I have yet to check if cgminer was updated between those versions either so you may want to do a more detailed comparison.
I do not think that cgminer was updated in the Nov firmware ... but could be wrong. Aside from that, since they made a dog's dinner out of the pic_firmware, I can not for the life of me see else-where performance enhancements could have been made.

Here's an interesting thought, would it not be nice if you wrapped one good bin file firmware update for us mere mortals? Here I mean one that has the correct and properly working hex file plus a working filesystem. that would be nice.

On another note, I managed to extract that hex file from one of my S3's (keep it for a rainy day) using MinGW on Windows. When I call file on the hex, it says it is ASCII text, with CRLF line terminators! I am tempted to open it up in notepad .....
833  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ANTMINER S3 Discussion and Support Thread. on: December 16, 2014, 11:58:12 AM
Very well then, it seems they have even cleverer people at bitmain than I gave them credit for, my bad.
Now if you do not mind throwing some light on the issue that is perturbing me, so here goes:

Aside from the pic firmware in the Nov release (which you cleverly established to have been fiddled with by bitmain), what advantage has the rest of the update in the Nov release is there to be had over that in the Oct release? Seems to me a simple and complete reset to the  13th Oct 2014 firmware rather than fudging the two would do nicely. Ofcourse, I am speaking from a postion of utter ignorance, so bear with me there).
The pic firmware seems to change every other release or so. For example antMiner_S320140811 and antMiner_S320140826 have the same pic firmware as do antMiner_S320141013 and antMiner_S320141024. Right now the main issue with antMiner_S320141013 is the broken webui, I recommend everyone stay far far away from antMiner_S320141024 as it greatly increases the chance of you bricking your control card(only way to recover is with ttl) since the reset doesn't work(filesystem issue), the latest firmware has the correct filesystem and fixed webui but a bad pic firmware. If you want to use antMiner_S320141013 you should ssh and execute the following command to fix the webui.
Code:
sed -i 's/Save\&Apply/Save\&amp;Apply/g' /usr/lib/lua/luci/model/cbi/cgminer/cgminer.lua
Right, this is getting a bit confusing for me, but never mind, I appreciate all the information.

So to recap, there is absolutely no reason whatsoever to update firmware to the Nov 2014 release aside from the fix to the web UI, which fix can be applied by a single line via ssh.

Am I correct in this or have I missed something that is obvious to you?
834  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ANTMINER S3 Discussion and Support Thread. on: December 16, 2014, 11:38:55 AM
Turns out this didn't completely fix it, the issue is that the pic firmware from this build is very unstable. You can fix this by flashing the pic firmware from the antMiner_S320141013.bin firmware. To retrieve the stable pic firmware first flash the antMiner_S320141013.bin firmware to your miner, do not retrieve from any other firmware version especially antMiner_S320141024.bin(the pic firmware is identical to antMiner_S320141013.bin but very tricky to retrieve due to the filesystems being built incorrectly).
To retrieve the firmware scp it to your computer using the following command. This assumes your miner is still on the default IP of 192.168.1.99 .
Code:
scp root@192.168.1.99:/rom/etc/config/miner_pic.hex miner_pic.hex
Next Flash the latest antMiner_S320141126.bin firmware and upload the file back.
Code:
scp miner_pic.hex root@192.168.1.99:/etc/config/miner_pic.hex
Finally reboot your miner to apply the stable pic firmware.
You are a very clever person bitsolutions. Now, can you kindly tell us how to open and read the code in that hex file please? If these jombas from bitmain are not going to be honest with us, their customers, then I think they've earned us the right to pore over their little secrets. I thank you in advance.
You can't read it since its compiled.
Very well then, it seems they have even cleverer people at bitmain than I gave them credit for, my bad.
Now if you do not mind throwing some light on the issue that is perturbing me, so here goes:

Aside from the pic firmware in the Nov release (which you cleverly established to have been fiddled with by bitmain), what advantage has the rest of the update in the Nov release is there to be had over that in the Oct release? Seems to me a simple and complete reset to the  13th Oct 2014 firmware rather than fudging the two would do nicely. Ofcourse, I am speaking from a postion of utter ignorance, so bear with me there).
835  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ANTMINER S3 Discussion and Support Thread. on: December 16, 2014, 09:16:26 AM
Turns out this didn't completely fix it, the issue is that the pic firmware from this build is very unstable. You can fix this by flashing the pic firmware from the antMiner_S320141013.bin firmware. To retrieve the stable pic firmware first flash the antMiner_S320141013.bin firmware to your miner, do not retrieve from any other firmware version especially antMiner_S320141024.bin(the pic firmware is identical to antMiner_S320141013.bin but very tricky to retrieve due to the filesystems being built incorrectly).
To retrieve the firmware scp it to your computer using the following command. This assumes your miner is still on the default IP of 192.168.1.99 .
Code:
scp root@192.168.1.99:/rom/etc/config/miner_pic.hex miner_pic.hex
Next Flash the latest antMiner_S320141126.bin firmware and upload the file back.
Code:
scp miner_pic.hex root@192.168.1.99:/etc/config/miner_pic.hex
Finally reboot your miner to apply the stable pic firmware.
You are a very clever person bitsolutions. Now, can you kindly tell us how to open and read the code in that hex file please? If these jombas from bitmain are not going to be honest with us, their customers, then I think they've earned us the right to pore over their little secrets. I thank you in advance.
836  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ANTMINER S3 Discussion and Support Thread. on: December 15, 2014, 10:42:10 PM
Well maybe it DID finish flashing, HOWEVER, upon restarting I can not access the gui at all.

The web browser never registered a response from the unit so the page showed "flashing" even after the unit had restarted itself (and stopped working).

Rare problems occurring seem to be what happens to me.  Wish there was a way to re set it.  Holding that reset button does nothing.
You are now raising the possiblility that you have not bricked the board ... do you have any other S3+'s on your network and if so is any of them on the default static IP?
When you flash a unit that (usually) is on DHCP, th web UI will NOT register a response because the flashing resets the IP to the default one and turns the network settings to static. Thus you have to log onto the default static IP (192.168.1.99) rather than the on you had on DHCP. And if you have 2 units on the default IP, ofcourse one will not show up on your network, and that will be the last to ry to use that IP (which in this case is the rebooting / reflashed rig).
837  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ANTMINER S3 Discussion and Support Thread. on: December 15, 2014, 08:35:15 PM
Those looking to replace their controller boards - bitmain are a bit awkward with their controllers, and I do not know why? Last I tried to get a replacement on, I was quoted $110 (if I recall + shipping), or given the option to order an S3+ to have the controller shipped with that order. But when I chose to go the $110 route but with EMS shipping - not DHL / UPS (which was like 2 weeks wait), they never followed through for some obscure reason. I got fed-up jumping through hoops, so you better brace yourselves!
838  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: S3+ (BM1382) Overclocking with voltage setting on: December 15, 2014, 07:21:24 PM
There you go, I have put up a poll on the thread, hopefully we'll get a good response. i've also left it open so anyone can view the results.

With regard to getting different people to carry out the tests and collating the results, I'll leave that to yourself to start the thread for that. You can start off with an empty table listing the freqs and voltages that you want, then people can opt to do the test by posting a message before they start, stating the freq & voltage they are testing, then posting results when they are done and you filling in the table in the OP.

Shameless bounty hunters, we miners are Wink
Ain't no shame in that ma friend .....
839  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: S3+ (BM1382) Overclocking with voltage setting on: December 15, 2014, 05:55:39 PM
Would be nice to see a chart/graph with various frequency settings from 200M up to 262.5M on the S3+ with settings from 0725 to 0770 voltage settings in 005 increments to find the most efficient settings for each frequency in between.  Anyone want to spent the time and equipment to do 11 x 10 = 110 tests???  Would probably become the basic go to OC guide for the Antminer S3.
To be honest, I've (and many more out there!) have run a good number of that range - ofcourse tending to the OC side - but not for long enough (IMO) to be authoritative enough to form the definitive guide, also undocumented!
Saying that, the full range may be overkill and lack any useful result over and above what we already know, thus I'd suggest voltage increments of .25v over a 6hr period minimum. If anyone has 10 or more S3+'s, that would be trivial, then again, they'd have to "sacrifice" their earnings. If you only have a coupl of S3+'s, it won't require a herculian effort, but trivial it won't be.
Thus IITravel01, start a fund to get this off the ground and I am sure you won't be shy of takers!
840  Bitcoin / Mining software (miners) / Re: OFFICIAL CGMINER mining software thread for linux/win/osx/mips/arm/r-pi 4.8.0 on: December 15, 2014, 03:52:01 PM
I have asked here before but never got an answer, so I'll try again.
When I call the api from my S3 via a scheduled tasks (cron job) and a script to restart via the API call:
Code:
cgminer-api restart
cgminer stops hashing but does not restart.

The line that calls the script in scheduled tasks is:
Code:
0,30  *  *  *  *    root cd /sbin && ./hashRestart >/dev/null 2>&1

Via putty, I have run the cgminer-api vrsion command and get this (in case it is relevant).
Code:
Reply was 'STATUS=S,When=1418658181,Code=22,Msg=CGMiner versions,Description=cgminer 4.6.1|VERSION,CGMiner=4.6.1,API=3.1,Miner=7.0.0.3,CompileTime=Mon Oct 13 18:33:49 CST 2014,Type=S3|'
[STATUS] =>
(
   [STATUS] => S
   [When] => 1418658181
   [Code] => 22
   [Msg] => CGMiner versions
   [Description] => cgminer 4.6.1
)
[VERSION] =>
(
   [0] => VERSION
   [CGMiner] => 4.6.1
   [API] => 3.1
   [Miner] => 7.0.0.3
   [CompileTime] => Mon Oct 13 18:33:49 CST 2014
   [Type] => S3
)

My question is: Why is cgminer not restarting and am I missing any arguments to the API call?[/code]
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