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841  Economy / Economics / Re: Why you should use spare money to invest on: June 18, 2023, 03:46:12 PM
How do you determine how much you are willing to lose? It seems to me that this initially implies small amounts for investment, but in this case you will not lose much, but your investments will not bring you much profit either. Therefore, I believe that this rule can be applied to altcoins when the risks for your investments are really very high.
Any reserve funds that have been invested in bitcoin are ready to lose for any risk, because there is no exact speculation on bitcoin price predictions and we still believe that our investment in bitcoin will not lose much if we position the investment for the long term. Some of the reserve funds have been allocated to invest in bitcoin, have nothing to do with other funds, we even have an emergency reserve fund for whenever we need it.

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And then I have a counter question, if you only invest the money that you are not afraid to lose, what do you do with all the other money that you save, you just keep it?
We have financial management based on allocation and purpose, including funds for daily needs, some deposit funds at banks (fiat), reserve funds including investment funds into bitcoin and emergency funds, gold investments, everyone has different financial management, so it's clear that all other money is used according to the distribution of allocations that have been regulated in financial management.
842  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: [Edukasi] Seed Storage - Tempat Penyimpanan Mnemonic Phrase on: June 18, 2023, 02:14:50 PM
Oya betul juga yan, membuat 2nd backup memang menjadi pertahanan kedua tetapi memiliki kemungkinan di ketahui orang juga meningkat karena dokumen jadi 2. Berarti semakin banyak backup juga semakin bahaya ya, karena menambah kemungkinan untuk diketahui orang. Mau bagaimanapun cara menyimpannya resiko pasti ada.
Sebenarnya tergantung masing-masing tentang bagaimana cara membackupnya supaya tidak mudah diketahui oleh orang lain atau kalaupun misalnya ditemukan orng lain maka dia tetap tidak bisa mengakses ke dompet kita, jika agan menerapkan metode penyimpanan dengan mengacak/menggantikan setiap kata-kata pada seed phrase dengan kata lain yang tidak berhubungan dengan kata yang sudah ada pada seed phrase, jadi sebisa mungkin kita membuat setiap phare menjadi tidak sempurna sehingga tidak akan pernah bisa digunakan untuk akses ke dompet kita, yang penting bagi kita menyimpan metode perubahan tersebut atau lebih mudah metode itu di print tanpa menuliskan phrase yang utuh.

Untuk penyimpanan file backup saya masih menggunakan cara lama yang pernah saya jelaskan sebelumnya, menulis phrase/key yang sudah diacak yang disimpan pada file tanpa menggunakan ekstensinya, ditambahkan ke dalam file rar yang terproteksi password dan selanjutnya di tambahkan lagi ke file rar baru yang terproteksi password yang berbeda, kemudian hidden file pada folder yang sulit di temukan oleh siapapun, mungkin virus/malware tidak mencurigai file itu sebagai file penting yang menyimpan phrase/key.

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Kalo di RTku si mungkin aman banget gan, misal di print di kertas terus di tempel depan rumah juga satu rt ga bakal ada yang tau itu pharse, karena cuma ane yang mainan ginian se-RT Cheesy. Yang paling bahaya itu kalo kertasnya kesapu sama nyokap karena gatau kalo itu penting.
Dengan kata lain sama saja agan memamerkan brankas yang tidak terkunci kepada orang lain meskipun orang lain tidak memiliki pemahaman tentang akses dompet bitcoin tapi bisa saja saat ketika agan tidak menyadarinya maka seseorang yang bertamu ke rumah agan akan mencapture phrase itu dengan ponsel, dan kemudian mencari referensi ke internet atau menanyakkan kepada teman onlinenya sehingga cepat atau lambat mereka akan mencuri isi brankas agan.

Hal apapun terkait privasi sudah selayaknya di sembunyikan dari siapapun walaupun lingkungan agan tidak mengetahui tentang hal tersebut, jadi semakin disembunyikan semakin aman agan dari resiko atau tindakan yang tidak kita inginkan.
843  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Perkembangan Perdagangan Bitcoin/Cryptocurrency sebagai aset komoditas on: June 17, 2023, 11:57:05 PM
Sepengetahuan saya ada kok agenda peninjauan kembali daftar aset koin yang telah diumumkan Bappebti, minimalnya setahun sekali; Contoh nyata seperti dengan adanya beberapa kali perubahan peraturan Bappebti terhadap daftar aset kripto yang legal diperdagangkan di Indonesia seperti pada PerBa diatas.
Mestinya agenda peninjauan kembali harus dibuatkan rentang minimal setiap triwulan karena lebih dominan banyak proyek baru yang ditambahkan dalam daftar aset koin bahkan beberapa termasuk proyek lokal yang sudah umum diketahui oleh banyak investor berpengalaman tidak akan potensi bertahan dalam jangka panjang, jika dari setiap peninjauan kembali di temukan koin yang tidak lagi memenuhi kriteria dasar peraturan penetapan aset yang layak diperdagangkan maka bappeti harus mengupdate list mereka dengan menghapus koin tersebut dari daftar itu, saya mengharapkan proses seperti itu bukan malah menambahkan daftar aset koin yang panjang tanpa ada tindakan untuk koin yang tidak lagi mencapai kriteria yang sesuai dengan peraturan penetapan daftar aset sebelumnya.

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Untuk peninjauan ulang terhadap daftar aset kripto, tidak hanya Bappebti saja yang melakukannya, tapi juga diantaranya melibatkan pelaku usaha, dll. Jadi minimalnya investor juga (meski tidak semuanya) mestinya harus sudah lebih paham mengenai cara menilai aset kripto mana saja yang sekiranya layak.
Segala hal dalam resiko investasi semuanya ditanggung oleh investor jadi sudah pastinya setiap investor harus memiliki pengetahuan untuk memilih koin yang layak untuk investasikan, tapi berkaitan dengan bappeti sebagai badan perdagangan berjangka komoditi khususnya dalam bidang cryptocurrency tidak maksimal dalam pengawasan aset kripto jika misalnya peninjauan dilakukan setiap tahun sekali dan bahkan beberapa koin telah di tambahkan tidak dilakukan penghapusan (remove) kalau koin tersebut sudah tidak layak dalam daftar aset bappeti karena berdampak lebih buruk jika investor lokal terlibat investasi pada koin tersebut. Saya yakin jika banyak investor yang mengandalkan investasi pada koin-koin yang ada di dalam daftar aset dari bappeti maka mereka yang termasuk investor masih hold koin lokal (As*x, Har* dan koin lainnya) pasti masih yakin dengan potensi koin itu karena masih termasuk daftar aset pada dalam list bappeti, mereka juga beranggapan koin tersebut masih dalam pengawasan sehingga pasti tim proyek tidak akan meninggalkan proyek begitu dengan meninggalkan kerugian tinggi bagi investornya.
844  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Without money, the knowledge is a waste on: June 17, 2023, 11:22:43 PM
I don't agree with the statement "Without money, the knowledge  is a waste", because knowledge is actually more important than money. Money is finite, knowledge is eternal and be used as a source to earn more money than you would without it.
I agree with you in the other discussion but all of your opinion is very irrelevant to the discussion with this thread, imagine if you have knowledge about bitcoin in analyzing the market it has been studied for years and you can already see the market potential in the future, but you don't have money to buy BTC during corrective market conditions, so do you agree that all the bitcoin market analysis knowledge that you already know is useless without money?

I think you will answer "yes" to that question, because the investment sequence is very simple, money - market analysis knowledge - investment decision - trade/hold - take profit/cut loss.
845  Economy / Speculation / Re: Crypto experienced bloodshed on: June 17, 2023, 10:59:26 PM
Binance exchange has more integrity and customers so I don't think they're using their customers funds for investing in newly launched projects. They're very strategic with their investment as they only invest in project that'll succeed and make them more profits.
Binance exchange has huge funds in their cold wallet so it is impossible for them to use investor funds to invest in certain projects, if you notice they always announce every project they invest in, generally projects that have been reviewed for potential from the start are affiliated with binance labs.

CZ has always posted about investors funds that are always safe on every platform affiliated with binance, so there's nothing to worry about because they have received answers to the problems with the SEC in court, I'm sure binance will win this case because their accusations are groundless and not can be proven in fact in court proceedings.
846  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: I think topics/discussion on gambling addictions is too much on: June 17, 2023, 10:35:14 PM
Even though not all topics discuss the same level of addiction, if the topic is moderated in one topic (not allowing other topics to exist) then cases of addiction at any level can be discussed there.
You are right, each topic is made to be discussed with different complaints of gambling addiction and different ways of handling it depending on the level of addiction experienced, so even though each topic is very relevant for discussing gambling addiction, we hear different stories from bad gambling experiences, so their gambling addiction must be stopped immediately by providing the right solution.

I agree with your opinion to make a special topic that will be moderated about all discussions of gambling addiction problems, but I also agree with @Ryu_Ar1's opinion because locking threads will drown the topic of gambling addiction problems so the important point if there are many addiction topics will remind every gambler to think about the risks worst if he is a compulsive gambler it will be difficult to cure from gambling addiction.
847  Bitcoin / Hardware wallets / Re: How do I secure my wallet on: June 16, 2023, 11:53:22 PM
No, we have seen a user that downloaded from the official Electrum website years ago but was still scammed by the pop-up Electrum wallet notification. I think a strategy used by online theft to steal from BTC and download from the Electrum official website is not enough either if the wallet is not verified.
I just found out about this news because it's impossible for wallet software from the official web to pop up (notifications) which are dangerous for its users, I'm also an Electrum user for a long time but I've never experienced that and my Electrum wallet has remained safe until now. Maybe you should check your pc/desktop and scan for viruses regularly because there are third party influences that take advantage of notifications on electrum to steal your assets.

My advice is that you should pay attention to the official website link and make sure you don't download applications from phishing webs, because you have to be very careful to check the letters of the official web address because I think the official application is still safe to use..
848  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Stop stressing kids with bitcoin on: June 16, 2023, 11:38:21 PM
It is the responsibility of parents to teach good things to their children, but in terms of introducing bitcoin, parents must also look at the age of their children, so that their concentration in school education is not disturbed by their intention to make money. At the right time they will definitely know bitcoin from their father's life experience and although sometimes not directly introduced by their parents, the internet and technology are the closest source that might bring them to bitcoin.
Explaining the knowledge of introducing bitcoin to children must be at the right time according to their age who have understood the era of technological development, so they catch the point of the explanation and they can already explore their understanding via the internet. But I agree not to force them to like bitcoin because everyone has future goals but we teach them to continue managing crypto assets from their parents if for example their parents are sick or die.

The public already knows a lot about bitcoin even though their location is not the basis of a group involved in crypto, so I think even if we don't introduce bitcoin to children, the children will definitely learn it from the internet media because bitcoin news has been made everywhere and the television media has also raise the popularity of cryptocurrency to be known by all levels of society.
849  Economy / Speculation / Re: SEC Lawsuit Against Binance Is Likely To Hit Bitcoin Price on: June 16, 2023, 11:12:30 PM
It will definitely go away, we have seen like Mt. Gox and then all the hacks that had happen, China banning mining, pandemic and wars and yet bitcoin is still standing has remain very strong. So this is just another test for us, maybe not as worst as the FTX and Terra Luna last year, but still there is an impact in the market as the price drop to $25k.
We have analyzed every event related to the decline of Bitcoin and all the news just temporarily paralyzed the market, I assume it is just a normal market correction even without FUD news which seems to influence the market to be forced down significantly in a short time, because I have predicted the market before that the area a $25k correction is imminent and I have prepared a fund for a $20-25k buy area on a DCA basis in anticipation of the probability that the price could be lower than our predicted price.

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Most likely the recovery will be long term, that's where we are looking at it right now. Again, this is just a test and it's really difficult, nevertheless there is a light at the end of the tunnel so to speak. Give at least 6 months short term, and then wait for the halving next year, long term.
Based on the current price, it is predicted that the price recovery opportunity will be faster or less than 2 months, but we never know bad possibilities can occur if there is news that will worsen the current crypto market situation, but in the end nothing can tear down the crypto market in terms of anywhere because the support of the global crypto community remains solid improving cryptocurrency achieving unlimited goals without any entity, group/organization even government to influence our goals.
850  Economy / Speculation / Re: Is buying BTC now, the best option ??? on: June 16, 2023, 10:46:27 PM
But historically speaking, those who were aiming to buy only during the dips (or what looked like a possible dip) note better results than those doing the DCA. Of course buying the dips require more analysis, but it's not like you have to time the market perfectly.
We can never accurately predict market cycles so we need to do DCA to avoid buying all investment funds at a certain price at once, because according to our predictions that the market price has reached the most dips but the actual price is much lower than the price we predicted, I think nothing the best analysis of the DCA strategy for adding assets to the crypto portfolio because we have distributed investment funds gradually, even if the next bearish market occurs we still have some funds from the opportunity to buy at the lowest price.
851  Economy / Speculation / Re: The low support level may still be tested during 2023. on: June 15, 2023, 09:38:20 PM
I hope the new support survive better to support more attempts to break the strong resistance. I think I believe $24k wouldn't be too strong if the panic that followed FUD from various media was not handled with care, so it's best to keep DCA in mind as a backup strategy when making purchases.
I think todays news about the postponement of the asset freeze decision on Binance.us has temporarily halted FUD so price is potentially holding on to new support, the panic factor is due to investors/traders rushing to respond to the recent issues so they are accumulating high losses on their assets and also the support of whales which has sent the market down significantly.

But it's difficult to determine the next speculation until there is no final court decision regarding the freezing of binance.us assets, I do not expect another low but really hope that the $ 30k recovery can be recovered by the end of the month.
852  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Perkembangan Perdagangan Bitcoin/Cryptocurrency sebagai aset komoditas on: June 15, 2023, 09:14:50 PM
Nah untuk coin baru (terutama dari aset kripto lokal, contoh itu coin pada no 478 yang sempat ramai dibahas beberapa waktu yang lalu) yang ingin di listing di exchange yang kemudian agar di ajukan ke Bappeti sebagai coin yang legal diperjualbelikan, saya tidak tahu persis ada atau tidaknya semacam 'deal' terlebih dulu antara developernya dengan pihak exchange.
Kita tidak pernah tahu informasi yang lebih spesifik bagaimana koin itu sampai dapat lampu hijau untuk dizinkan legal dapat diperjualbelikan karena saya yakin berita semacam itu tidak akan dipublik pada media apapun, selain itu ada beberapa koin dari daftar tersebut tidak aktif lagi atau bahkan volume harian sangat rendah rentang $1-2k maka tentu saja tidak lagi terdaftar pada peringkat market cap 500 ke atas.

Peraturan penetapan daftar aset kripto diatas sebagai persyaratan suatu koin untuk diajukan terdaftar pada Bappeti tapi proses selanjutnya harus ada peraturan peninjauan daftar aset koin yang sudah terdaftar untuk ditinjau dalam setiap periode tertentu dan mengecek kelayakan koin tersebut apakah masih layak atau tidaknya terdaftar dalam bagian daftar aset kripto dalam list Bappeti, tapi jika ada peraturan peninjauan kembali maka sikap Bappeti harus tegas untuk menghapus koin tersebut kalau tidak mencukupi syarat dari tinjuan volume trading, Kapitalisasi Pasar dan sebagainya, gunanya faktor peninjauan kembali sebagai langkah antisipasi kepada investor untuk segera menyelamatkan dana mereka sebelum kerugian tinggi yang dialami jika koin itu telah di hapus dari daftar Bappeti.
853  Economy / Economics / Re: Will chatgpt really destroy the job market? on: June 15, 2023, 08:26:40 PM
I think that ChatGPT will hasten the destruction of certain jobs. Did you know that in the tech world, it is being utilize more, although human programmers are still need though. We have watched AI produce music, art, and other amazing stuff and it is obvious that it cannot just be ignored. It will be interest to watch what jobs will be taken by AI and what jobs will remain.
The development of AI may not immediately replace human work because the AI project has just been released so there are still many shortcomings to be developed for the next few years, but there is a very potential threat of destroying human work in the next few years, you plan a new strategy from now on if you think your work will be replaced by AI technology, the first strategy has been planning backup jobs or starting a new business even you involve AI in your business instead of paying employee salaries. So AI technology has pros and cons depending on each other's opinion, but we don't go to the past to avoid AI technology, so take advantage of AI technology to create new businesses because anyone can use AI without any restrictions.
854  Economy / Economics / Re: Landed properties is the best investment on: June 15, 2023, 07:14:26 PM
I don't think so, because investing in Bitcoin has a high risk even though it is very worth it with all the possible benefits that will be obtained, while investing in land is quite promising without any risk, right now in my opinion the safest investment is land property because its value will increase every year even though it is in a very small amount, in my opinion it is quite reasonable because there are no risks involved.
Land investment looks very promising compared to other investments, but there needs to be attention in land investment requiring large funds for strategic location areas but even though the high price will not reduce the purchase value because it is even more profitable for long term investments.

Land investment is also risky if you have no knowledge of legal land ownership, because recently several houses have been demolished because they did not have a valid land certificate from the previous seller, the previous seller has bribed people to get fake land certificates but the original owner has won the lawsuit in court and asked for compensation from the previous purchase of land. So don't rush to buy land without knowing how to buy land legally and make sure the land is not involved in disputes from the previous owner.
855  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Crypto exchanges on: June 15, 2023, 06:28:47 PM
Crypto is dominated by centralized exchanges, recommending anyone of them for you is like putting you inside a tiger cage and locking the key because they cannot be trusted, one day you will lose access to your fund, and no one would pray for such kind of thing,
We have been warned not to entrust the holding of assets to any exchange because there will be risks in the future, what has happened with Binance.us has proven that threats will come from any side, especially the SEC which has the authority to monitor or even sue centralized exchanges.

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they are demanding the court to give them the order to seize the fund under Binance.US custody until all investigations are done, they are trying to seize users fund that belongs to customers which is a very bad move.
I updated the news today, the court postponed the decision to freeze US funds because of the agreement that the two agreed, I think the Binance team will do everything to protect customer funds, so let's hope for the best and hope the problem is resolved without harming anyone.
856  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: My friend interested in investing in BTC but the friend's father does not agree on: June 14, 2023, 11:56:29 PM
It is difficult to imagine a person who takes a seat in the government and listens to his father's prohibitions, but there is common sense here, if a civil servant violates the laws, then of course he will need to be fired if his violations are found.

There is probably always a way to do it anonymously if it is so necessary, but as far as I know, people from the government already live very well, they have a good salary, connections, position in society, and this even without bitcoin can give them a comfortable existence, therefore, you need to think several times before taking these risks.
Although the safest anonymous method was suggested to his friend, I was worried that his friend could not maintain his privacy due to negligence in managing crypto assets or he unknowingly made an unexpected mistake because a transaction history was found from an exchange account to his bank account.

If his friend is interested in investing/trading crypto, then he must find a trusted friend who can manage his crypto assets for the long term, because he has a status of employment with the government, he must be clean from any violations of the law because it will result in fatal sanctions of dismissal and as much as possible he does not have transaction history about crypto on his account.
857  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Dad's retirement money is invested in Bitcoin! on: June 14, 2023, 11:23:57 PM
If it's your own money then you may not be doing wrong but since it's another person's money then you're doing wrong . There are things we're advised not to do as crypto investors and traders: never invest/trade on behalf of someone with their money; never trade/invest with amount beyond what you can absorb in the case of a loss.  Be mindful of the fact that market volatility may end up not working according to your plans for the end of the year.
I think the OP should pay attention to the above suggestions before he decides to invest part of his father's retirement allowance into crypto investments, the first factor is that the investment fund belongs to his father and he must ask permission from all family members to provide long term investment solutions that have the opportunity to make big profits in a few years , and he must also explain the impact of risk of loss if he does not consistently hold assets for the long term.

The second solution, if all family members trust the management of funds to the OP, then it is recommended that the investment fund is lower than some retirement benefits, for example 30% of benefits, the Op must also be knowledgeable about crypto market analysis and prioritize adding assets by the DCA method or diversification, so that OP has the opportunity buy at any price correction or better be patient waiting for bearish market conditions as BTC prices are heavily discounted.
858  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: [β] BPIP Extension: user info & extra features add-on/extension, Firefox/Chrome on: June 13, 2023, 07:26:51 PM
Well, Some updates disabled Tampermopnkey. With a couple of clicks, it is now up and running. I thought the red X on the Greasemonkey menu was an effect of the disabled, not the cause! Clicking it converted to a green check mark, and the extension started working again.
I think there are settings that have changed automatically since the Tampermopnkey update on the Safari browser, so make sure the enable/disabled script that has been added to Greasemonkey so that the extension is working and running normally.

Even though I don't use the Safari browser, every extension that has been installed must pay attention to the small X icon which means the extension is disabled on the Google Chrome menu bar, for example the Internet Download Manager (IDM) extension can be disabled automatically with just 1 click on the IDM icon, and click again to enable again.
859  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: [List] Dompet Bitcoin - Wallet Sofware on: June 13, 2023, 07:31:22 AM
Tapi sayangnya kebanyakan orang kalo cari aplikasi di playstore pasti tidak melakukan crosscheck ke situs resminya. Mungkin karena playstore dan search enggine terpisah jadi males kunjungin web resmi. Kalo di laptop kan tidak ada toko (playstore) sehingga mau tidakmau harus menggunjungi laman officialnya baru download, tapi disinilah bagusnya. Jadi tidak salah download aplikasi abal-abal
Banyak aplikasi yang lolos proses review meskipun bukan aplikasi resmi jadi harus extra hati-hati menginstal aplikasi tanpa crosscheck pada website resmi, banyak korban yang melaporkan kerugian akibat menginstal aplikasi wallet abal-abal yang mempunyai code (syntax) yang ditanamkan dalam aplikasi untuk mencuri informasi penting dari wallet/gadget kita, jadi 3 tips yang disampaikan agan @Husna QA sudah sangat tepat untuk di ikuti.

Beberapa tips yang mungkin bisa dilakukan sebelum menginstal aplikasi semisal wallet (meskipun ini tidak baku):
- Gunakan link dari official website-nya.
- Sebisa mungkin hindari mencari aplikasi melalui menu pencarian di store aplikasi, karena bisa saja ada aplikasi yang mirip* yang malah beresiko jika keliru menginstal.
- Cari tahu lebih jauh informasi mengenai developer aplikasinya.
Sedikit menambahkan tips meskipun opsinal karena 3 tips diatas sudah manjur untuk mengatasi aplikasi abal-abal yang sudah ada di playstore, diantaranya :
- memeriksa perizinan yang digunakan dalam aplikasi karena jika dizinkan maka aplikasi akan leluasa mengakses informasi dari gadget anda, untuk aplikasi resmi biasanya membutuhkan konfirmasi perizinan dari penggunanya.
- memperhatikan jumlah pengguna yang menginstal aplikasi dan selalu budayakan membaca komentar
860  Economy / Economics / Re: Money is never enough! on: June 13, 2023, 05:48:29 AM
While you are still young, don't be easily lulled by the advice "money isn't everything," and things like that. While young and still strong, collect as much money as you can. Work hard, use your productive time as best as possible. After that, diligently save and invest. I'm afraid Advice like that becomes justification and makes us lazy.
There is another saying that states "everything needs money" but "money is not everything", these two sayings can be interpreted that everything we need requires money but money can't buy everything including happiness, if we focus on hard work to build a business and things others that aim to improve the economy for the long term but we ignore the special time to gather with family because of busy work activities, when both parents are gone then we will really regret not being with them while they are waiting for us at their house, as if all the money we have absolutely worthless for not being able to turn back time to the past. So reduce your schedule at work to gather with your small family because you have to manage a balance in life management, everything must be balanced so even if you prioritize time for your family without leaving your work schedule.
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