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841  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: ToominCoin aka "Bitcoin_Classic" #R3KT on: February 11, 2016, 03:09:41 PM
Expected Sybil attack, I expect those nodes to grow higher while mined classic block to be below 5% at most.
How to run 3,000 completely legit full nodes aka don't trust the node numbers. As always, the node count only matters to the 'forkers' when it starts growing in their favor.

But... But I was told non-mining nodes are essential to Bitcoin security and decentralizationings Huh
And I when I told you that non-mining nodes are irrelevant, because trivially faked, you got upset...
And now ...you're telling me that non-mining nodes are irrelevant, because trivially faked? Shocked
842  Economy / Reputation / Re: What in heck's name happened to escrow.ms? on: February 11, 2016, 02:59:11 PM
... but Jesus...can anyone be trusted here?  ...
Captains of industry Cheesy
http://qntra.net/2016/02/bitcointalk-default-trust-member-escrow-ms-arrested-for-debit-card-fraud/
843  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: ToominCoin aka "Bitcoin_Classic" #R3KT on: February 11, 2016, 02:50:49 PM
^^Hand-waving?
Meanwhile, back at the ranch Smiley


https://coin.dance/nodes
844  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 11, 2016, 02:21:11 PM
Meanwhile, back at the ranch Smiley


https://coin.dance/nodes
845  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin goes to 1200-1300 (within a month?) on: February 11, 2016, 01:46:11 PM
People need to get over the whatever happens in a month crap ...

Right.
Takes a special kind of a retard to start a "Bitcoin goes to 1200-1300 within a month" thread, be *HILARIOUSLY WRONG* more than half a year later, and not die of embarrassment.
 /thread.
846  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 11, 2016, 01:40:42 PM
...

The history of bitcoin and the nature of the code has direct philosophical and political implications regardless of Bitcoin being apolitical.

I.E... Rather than one person, one vote... the economic majority has greater influence on bitcoin balanced by the ability of developers and limitations of the technology. This is opposed to many democratic republics where the economic majority indirectly influences the majorities vote to remain dominant.
...

All this talk of "economic majority" without a definition.
WTF is "economic majority"?

-Those holding fiat, who can buy BTC mined by the miners?
-The miners, who are heavily invested in gear & will turn their power to the most-profitable SHA256 coin?
-The hodlers, who can rage on the interwebs and threaten to dump their coin if things don't go their way (but otherwise have no mechanism for voting)?

plz explain.
847  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Europe unfriendlyness is growing on: February 11, 2016, 01:33:38 PM
How can they blame bitcoin for terrorist?

so if they got the fund from western union, should we closed western union??

If they bought weapon using Dollar, should we ask the country to change the currency?

I think it is very funny for europe blaming bitcoin for this matter, bitcoin is just like other money only bitcoin is digital money

EU isn't blaming Bitcoin -- Bitcoin is simply getting the same level of regulation as regular money, Snowflake.
848  Economy / Speculation / Re: Returning to gold standard? on: February 11, 2016, 01:29:15 PM
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Contrary to gold, btc can be send anywhere from anywhere.
...

To be fair, Bitcoin could be sent from anywhere there is a neckbeard running a full node on a laptop with an internet connection to anywhere there is a neckbeard running a full node on a laptop with an internet connection.

Which is to say, nearly nowhere Sad
849  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 11, 2016, 01:08:42 PM
Indeed. Time for some reconciliation, and maybe a truth commission too.

I think part of the problem is people involved in bitcoin have gotten addicted to the non-stop drama surrounding it, that has existed since early on (late 2010 at least). So when everything is ticking over peacefully, price is flat, they get bored and start looking around for the next drama fix ... "hey what's this, we can bash the devs? cool" ... "look at this, a simple programming constant we can get upset about and create some drama, awesome" ... "let's jerk the Fed's chain about blockchain, should be neat" ... "hey, did you hear the latest Satoshi rumour?!"

Unfortunately, I believe this drama will only temporarily go away. There were indeed many genuine XT/UL/Classic supporters but there were also many shills/trolls/  agent provocateurs supporting a contentious HF. Bitcoin is competing/undermining against some of the most powerful states and corporations and we should prepare for a vicious and difficult fight ahead.

Part of this is educating people towards the true principles of bitcoin, as many are still advocating code be written under the governance of democracy which would be tragic and goes against our current meritocracy consensus based development framework. As we grow our ecosystem this will remain a constant challenge we must overcome as most humans have been programmed to believe democracy is the best form of governance available.

Bitcoin is neither a democracy nor a meritocracy.

Every "-cracy" has its strength and weakness. It's human. It's bipolar.

Bitcoin is (stupid) software enforcing rules (1 ASIC - 1 VOTE) you are free to (dis-)agree with.

What makes Bitcoin so powerful is its independence from any form of government or "..."-cracy. Like freedom of speech it is freedom of choice!

The bitcoin (price) just reflects the acceptance of a certain group of people who freely agreed to transact value with each other.

Of course.
"They vote with their CPU power [...] Any needed rules and incentives can be enforced with this consensus mechanism." --satoshi

Opposing meritocracy to democracy is a sleazy, false dichotomy: both are meritocracies.

>Yes, building a decent node costs at least 90 dollars.
Nah, it's leasing a VM instance.
But by your calculations, total nodes < $500k, pocket lint for any mining cartel.
No use pretending that non-mining nodes secure wallets benefit more than their operator Smiley
850  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 10, 2016, 05:46:53 PM
... classic continues its fade into obscurity.

Can't wish it into the cornfield, Will Robinson, top of /bitcoin Reddit Smiley
https://np.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/45326r/bitcoin_classic_release_announcement/
851  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 10, 2016, 05:17:38 PM
852  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Analysis and list of top big blocks shills (XT #REKT ignorers) on: February 10, 2016, 04:15:49 PM
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Yes, read the authors that have been prescribed to you and put in your face since you were young, so that you won't notice how you are serving a control system that subtly "enslaves" your mind by means of making you believe that the violence-premised systems of control such as "democracy" and "government" and "authority" are benevolent forms of and the pinnacle of human organization. Keep doing that and shilling for "democratic" max blocksize increases that are probably engineered by the same control system so that you'll help to (temporarily) hinder the advancement of one of the largest threats to its largest control vector (centralized debt-based money).

What on Earth could make you believe that those 5 pre-Internet authors could in any way be able to offer an appropriate analysis of our world today? Why is it that you have even heard of them, and not about <insert any number of actual contemporary researchers>? I can answer the question, of course, but I'll let you ponder it... if you haven't completely lost the ability to think for yourself, that is.


Pfffhhh...pre-internet..

Those and other philosophers like them are the foundation of all science. You can't have proper science without a proper philosophy of science. And to have a proper philosophy of science you need to have some key advancements in epistemology in place.

Btw, how "free" is your mind if you're afraid to read this stuff? If anyone else talked like that to you wouldn't you be worried?


Plato, Hobbes, Descartes, Kant, Locke: who are these idiots? More of your obsolete fucking Jews, consigned to the dustbin of history along with their legacy fiat slavery scam? Never fucking heard of them.
How many Twitter followers they got?

853  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 10, 2016, 02:43:15 PM
The Government is watching you...

854  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 10, 2016, 02:02:28 PM
... With Bitcoin Ethereum has a safe and reliable store of value ...

BA DUM TSSss!
855  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 10, 2016, 01:37:02 PM
^
856  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: You are now able to use your bitcoins to shop at Walmart, Chipotle, gas stations on: February 10, 2016, 01:00:13 PM
Are there any plans to adapt this to other Countries besides the USA? Possible to copy this format and open in Canada as well,could see this doing decent maybe and a potential step towards global.

Was going to ask the same question, could see this working in the UK as well and possibly mainland Europe...would be nice to see!

Do they sell gift cards in UK?

They sell Pound (money) in UK.

BtiAndy, instead of spending BTC on a gift card from one particular store, buy some GBP & bypass the middleman Smiley
857  Economy / Speculation / Re: Returning to gold standard? on: February 10, 2016, 12:53:47 PM
Gold standard is best thing can happen to people if we don't think about bitcoin.
I think gold standard have greater chance to be revived, than bitcoin would be adopted by government..

What makes you think a return to a currency system based upon an asset, which is every bit as cornered by a few 'whales' as Bitcoin is, is good for humanity?

From what I can make out from the history books, a gold standard meant some brutally hard times for the masses when the economy went in to downturn, and picking up assets for pennies on the gold backed dollar for the very few.

True, but the local captains of industry like Mr. arbitrage, the ones whoring out their signatures to dice sites for pocket change, are clearly the elite few, the Randian heroes, the 1% who'll profit.
858  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Estranged Core Developer Gavin Andresen Finally Makes Sensible 2MB BIP Proposal! on: February 10, 2016, 12:29:56 PM
You worry too much. Core supporters have been begging for large block proponents to stick with consensus. Surely, when that has changed those same people will stick with the new consensus. Anything else would be hypocrisy.
I do not worry. You haven't answered my question.
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Consider a 50-50 split. Which one would you call Bitcoin?

In your hypothetical scenario you've already quoted how that works.

Yeah, but if Lauda don't get it, is it still a burn?

... Due to the oscillations in the hashrate, we would never have a perfect 50-50 split .

Edit: replace "Yeah, but if" with "Yeah, but when."
859  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 09, 2016, 08:23:19 PM
Bitcoin is on the verge of splitting in two

http://www.theverge.com/2016/2/9/10946072/bitcoin-core-classic-software-block-size-debate

Bitcoin is in the midst of a civil war.
...
I choose the shoe.



War ain't nothing but an icebreaker
860  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is bitcoin being used for illegal activities on: February 09, 2016, 07:37:02 PM
End of the day anything can be illegal if they want to crack down on us for breathing to much.
Its up to the public to lash back and say this is not happening.
Pretty sure if there's any "lashing back," it won't be from bitcoin enthusiasts. Heck, I've been watching folks here get savaged over and over by various bitcoin "entrepreneurs" -- Brewster, Friedcat, Ukyo, Pirate, Karples, and on and on and on...
Sum total of getback?
ZERO Sad
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