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861  Economy / Economics / Re: Can Bitcoin also lead to corruption ? on: October 16, 2017, 04:48:02 AM
We all know that there is corruption everywhere, like in government or any other organization. Because of money, corruption can always happen with greedy people who always wants more money to them. Since bitcoin can be considered as money, can it also lead to corruption?
Yes, I believe that there's a possibility becauae still, it involves money. And as long as money is involved into something, corruption will always be present. I'm nit sure on how corruption works in Bitcoin since it is decentralized, maybe it is on ICO projects or campaigns which is related to Bitcoin something like that.
Yes you are absolutely right that possibility of corruption is everywhere but I am looking no way of corruption especially in case of bit coin as digital and crypto currency world and I think that corruption will be also a modern way of corruption.

There are different kinds of mindsets in this world so the corruption will depend upon the nature of an individual itself.
I also agree with you. The possibility is always there, because I think this is the very safe place to keep the corrupted money. No proof, no inquiry, no recovery and the money gone to the wallet of corrupt people. I think bitcoin will provide them the opportunity for more and more corruption. Now they cannot use or keep the black money in their bank accounts but bitcoin will give then the safe and easy way.

Actually corruption is and will be there forever, Bitcoin is just a medium that is or will be used by the corrupted peoples. But recently might be for this reason many countries are trying to regulate and also introducing KYC and AML to curb corruption. I believe there will be loophole or a way to still hide your money but atleast it will restrict or might even reduce it till some extent.



Just as with fiat money, bitcoin can simply become a medium for corruption. It would all boil down to the morals and values of a person - as to whether how they could use bitcoin. Bitcoin will not LEAD someone towards corruption but rather their selfishness will. They may use bitcoin as a tool to act on their selfishness. Corruption may be found anywhere, it may perpetuate through anything. Hopefully, the proper authorities would prevent these kind of acts through proper regulation.
862  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin price prediction at the time of hard fork. on: October 16, 2017, 04:09:17 AM
The fork is near and i hope the price will increase more. But we dont know actually the price of bitcoin after fork or furibg fork. But I hope the price of bitcoin after fork will become 6000 dollars like last fork in the month of july after fork the price increasw and I hope it will happen again. We need unity here dont sell your bitcoin just hold your bitcoin and you will earn a lot of profit if you do that ...
Possible we will reach $7000 soon near the date of the hardfork. Because users will be having more btc due to bitcoin gold. Maybe bitcoin price will decrease after the hard fork, actually its hard to speculate the price but let's see its movement.

Interesting. I have been expecting for the price to go down days before the hardfork and for it to go up after but with this bitcoin gold, that may happen. It really is hard to say what the price may be and to speculate - you never know what to expect. I didn't expect the price to be as high as it is today and I believe that it will continue to increase until it breaks to $6000. If that doesn't happen, then there could be some dips during the hard fork. I hope the price won't fall as much during that time.
863  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why should we use Bitcoin in daily purchases? on: October 14, 2017, 12:31:12 PM
In the current state of matters, I wouldn't use my bitcoins to buy a cup of coffee at Starbucks. The cost of transaction is greater than the actual good that I want to buy, so a big nope to that. Apart from that, there's not much who accepts bitcoin in their services, so I guess I'll just stick to my credit/debit cards and cash for buying everyday things.

If that were the case, then I wouldn't choose to spend my bitcoins on daily purchases as well. That wpuld just incur a loss for me. Also, I'd rather hodl and treat my bitcoins as long term investment because I believe that its value will become high in the future. With only selected merchants which accept bitcoin as a payment sustem then I think that it's not ideal to spend bitcoin for daily purchases.
864  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is the best way to quit gambling and start trading?? on: October 13, 2017, 08:26:51 AM
Cut your losses.

Despite having lost a lot of money. Despite not being able to win back the money you lost. Despite the prospect of gaining profit or winning a huge amount of BTC or money - just drop everything and stop. Do it now, and not tomorrow or once you've reached your quota or desired number of winnings. It's going to be hard and you'll experience withdrawals if you're already addicted to gambling but it is possible if you have the discipline. Try to distract yourself by putting all your time and effort on other doing things such as doing recreational activities.
865  Economy / Economics / Re: Why people scam on: October 13, 2017, 07:49:05 AM
You should change the topic title as why people are so selfish. Base on OP, I don't see any direct point saying "why people scam."

Anyway, the point of view of people who are not donating some money to people who are just begging is that those will become dependant instead of finding a job, a decent one, instead of just opening your hand while sitting in the streets waiting for someone to give them a coin.

Those who deserve to receive donations are those who are facing health issues like cancer but they can't afford it, those who are working hard yet still it is not enough and etc.

I agree with that, I like that it haha. I don't get with why people was selfish. Yes ofcourse we share to others if we have but it is not that easy becuase what we have is not easy to get.
What surprises me most is that if that energy and skills can be channeled into doing something productive, they can even do much better for themselves than trying to scam. At the same time, most of these guys are always just looking for the easy way out without conscience. However, they are not the only ones to be blamed, those who are greedy enough to fall for their voices are also to be blamed.

They say that you should teach a man to fish, and not give them the fish or else they won't learn and they'll just keep on asking for more. Of course, not everyone has the capability to work or earn money. It's sad how society works, how it deprives some people of the riches, and how unfair the world is. Even with the pre-historic age gone, it's still survival of the fittest. It's true, instead of just helping each other some would even step on those who are struggling or less fortunate.

People scam because it's the fast and easy way to get money. Out of their desperation, they resort to these kind of decietful and fraudulent schemes. The people who scam should instead put their skills to legitimate work.
866  Economy / Speculation / Re: 2 Days back i sold 17 BTC for 4968 $ on bittrex - i regret on: October 13, 2017, 07:21:57 AM
Its your lost man. Its okay for sure you have earned a profits from selling those bitcoin, but why did you sell all ? You don't have to sell it all. If you prepare a short investment you win, you gain profits and the other hand who prepare long term is now having a good sleep looking at the current price and its still growing.

That's almost $5,000 and that's a huge amount of money so I'm guessing you were able to profit from that but I also think that you should have left some bitcoin. Just this very day, the price has increased tremendously and I believe that it will continue to increase for the years to come.

Unless of course, you are satisfied with the profit you got.

I shall dissuade you from buying right now because the price is very high and it will continue to get higher. Once the November hard fork gets nearer, the bitcoin price will surely go down. That would be a good time for you to buy since the price will be very low. After the hard fork, the price will shoot up then you can sell it again if you want to. If you're into trading, invest on some altcoins too. There are some coins out there worth buying also it's very good for short term trading.
867  Economy / Economics / Re: Appreciation of bitcoin on: October 13, 2017, 07:02:25 AM
It is foolish to regret that missed some opportunity in the past. It is always a chance to make conclusions and not to make mistakes in the future. Bitcoin gives you the opportunity to join the community at any time. Price for it is growing. I hope that this trend will continue for a very long time. The main thing that the bitcoin community had not broken the contradictions within.
Yes some of the people missed the bitcoin chance to earn more and to invest in the bitcoin. They spend the money and they did not hold the bitcoin for the high profit. The regular income is the 2nd thing but the first thing is the bitcoin and the increasing price of the bitcoin. The bitcoin is being appreciated by a lot of the people of the high price and the smart income.

I sometimes get tempted myself to sell my bitcoin and cash it out so that I may spend it on useless material stuff but then whenever I see how the price increases each day, I'd have the motivation to hold it. Despite experiencing frequent fluctuations, I believe that the price will still continue to increase and upon observation of price charts it may be seen that the trend is upward. I remind myself that if I hold it today, its value will increase in the coming years. The appreciation of bitcoin truly is amazing.
868  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why do thousands of investors hold bitcoin on troubled days? on: October 11, 2017, 08:25:39 AM
I think there are many holders because as we can already see in it's short history bitcoin is something special and potentially could change everything.

The old way of investing is not appealing anymore and is dominated by a handfull of companies and banks, crypto can and will at some point be the hand that forces change.

I agree. The investors continue to hold their bitcoins despite during troubled days and despite when the price goes down because they believe in bitcoin and they see potential in it thus it is worthwhile holding. Just by observing the price charts, one could see that the price has been exponentially increasing despite the numerous fluctuations and number of dips it has experienced.

I don't think that most investors have stopped investing in the old ways - such as in stocks and bonds. It's actually quite similar with bitcoin. They may have decided to just diversify their investment and expanded their portfolios. I believe that a lot would still trust the old ways of investing, even in banks and other financial systems.
869  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Using Bitcoin and altcoins when under 18 on: October 11, 2017, 06:20:28 AM
I think the digital currency trading as altcoin and bicoin not have rules about age restrictions, but for the security of your wallet better use the original ID to be verified, to anticipate if there are improvements that require ID verification system
yes there is no age limit in using or trading bitcoin or any other currency but still i will like to say that the children who are under 18 they should first complete their study and when they become free then they should try to invest their money in trading bitcoin and alt coin.
Yes true, bitcoin and altcoin are the same as real money, anyone is free to earn, save and use. The most important is do not use it for illegal transactions such as the purchase of drugs, weapons, and more.
Yes but actually gaining Bitcoin is a different matter.

Unfortunately you can't really use exchanges as nearly all them try to verify your age in some way and if you were found out it would be a problem.

I think that most altcoin exchanges don't actually verify your age, whether or not they suggest that you should be over 18.  In that case, you could buy Bitcoin with a debit card (which services occasionally allow without ID for small amounts), or an altcoin if that's more convenient and you can keep away from scams, and you could trade it pretty well.

In the spirit of Bitcoin's privacy, most services won't verify your age and you should be OK.

I don't see the need for an age restriction nor do I think that any jurisdiction would impose one. Bitcoin is dangerous to use for the young ones and so is money but there is no restriction for anyone under the age 18 which prohibits them of the use of money. Some wallets requires the need of identification but besides that, age shouldn't be a problem. Bitcoin is available for anyone to use regardless of their age and no law should discriminate on that.
870  Economy / Economics / Re: bitcoins - skyrocketing demands in Asia on: October 11, 2017, 05:05:24 AM
Well it dipped for a while and is now rallying back. Plenty of Asian countries have also shown optimism regarding Bitcoin, such as Japan and Taiwan. This translates to consumer optimism and increased demand.

I think today its is the sideway trend. Yeah, Asia countries like bitcoin so much. I think one factor for its boom in Asia not just for the economic giant but third world Asian country is that it gives them a chance to earn bitcoin to help them survived in their country. And even most of them are treating bitcoin as a job so no wonder the price of bitcoin is skyrocketing on that corner. And Japan, South Korea and even Taiwan now are bitcoin friendly resulting on so much optimism about it. And I think that Asia will continue to show desire and willingness to buy bitcoin in the next coming years.

This is actually surprising because Asia is full of traditional countries and most are not so welcome to new and foreign concepts such as this.

I agree that a factor could be the friendly approach there is for Bitcoin in countries like Japan - I believe that their legal system allows the bitcoin users to maximize its use and potential. Along with this, the popularity and interest for bitcoin has increased. It is also true that some users in Asia has been treating bitcoin as "sideline income" or way for them to earn extra, so I guess this contributes to the growing demand for Bitcoin in that area.
871  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin Going Above 6k Soon!!!!! on: October 11, 2017, 04:46:10 AM
I think bitcoin could be hit above only $5k until the fork end. . like the other said its too early to determine that the price can be touch at  $6k value since the price still not hit in $5k value.. The price was increased these days but hoping that we can see more movement these following days. If bitcoin break $5k value expect that after fork the price was hit $6k value above..

I agree. With the upcoming hard fork this November, the price will go down. After that, it may be possible for the price to hit $6000 once it breaks above the $5000 boundary. I'll be expecting there to be a huge price increase after the fork this November, especially since Christmas season will be fast approaching. It's going to be hard to tell what the price will be by the end of the year but I expect it to be near that number or probably even higher. We are sometimes wrong because we are only speculating and the turn out is even higher than we thought it would be.
872  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin in the Philippines uproar on: October 11, 2017, 01:38:58 AM
Here in the Philippines, the growth in the knowledge about bitcoin is drastically exponential. Could bitcoin possibly influence the improvement and advancement of the Philippine's economical status? In what aspects?

So what?  No vendors are accepting it or even know about it.  Those vendors who are aware of it are not interested in accepting it as payment.  It's only something for the lower classes to do to earn extra (possibly) in their spare time or if they have no job.

That may be so but then I think there will be more developments and adoptions for Bitcoin in the incoming years because of the growing number of bitcoin users in the Philippines. Soon, there could be more merchants that would accept bitcoin as a payment system. I beg to disagree that it is only something for the lower class; although it is true that there are A LOT from that class who utilize bitcoin. I believe there to be number of businessmen and those from the middle class who know of and invest in Bitcoin. It is presently being more attention in the business sector.

I think that those from the lower class has been taking advantage of the opportunity given by bitcoin especially those who don't have regular jobs. It gives them the convenience of earning even when they're just at home. I believe that it's a big help for them and it could alleviate some of the burden that they have in paying their daily expenses.
873  Economy / Economics / Re: What do you think about bitcoin interest in the near future? on: October 09, 2017, 03:55:36 PM
From what I'm seeing right now, Bitcoin has been gaining more and more popularity all over the internet and social media. I've been seeing more advertisements - particularly ICOs and articles regarding Bitcoin and cryptocurrency. With this, I believe that Bitcoin will slowly become mainstream and recognized by the public. It's possible for more people to use Bitcoin and more technological innovations will be done to cater to the growing number of bitcoin users.
874  Economy / Economics / Re: If you were in desperate need for money.... on: October 09, 2017, 03:50:33 PM
i will break my piggy bank.. cause i have save some  money in case of emergencies..


That is a good habit to save money as it will give you money instantly in hands when you are in urgent need of money and its better to save money regularly instead of borrowing from people around us as there is not assurance that they will help us in our rainy days.
Everyone must have a fund for emergencies, I know that it an be difficult especially if you are not earning much but thanks to bitcoin you could get some extra income that could be used in the case of emergencies, however it is difficult to spend our bitcoin too since it is always going up in value and it may be a difficult decision to sell it.

I make it a habit to always keep away at least a dollar or two in my wallet or some safe place just in case of a rainy day or emergencies. I would also be able to get from my bank account because I don't spend my money there unless it's for something urgent. I guess another thing that I could do in case I exhausted all my resources would be to sell my possessions such as my cellphone and laptop - if I were desperate enough to do so.

I've been also saving my bitcoin and it's amusing whenever the price goes up because it has increased a lot as compared to when I first got it.
875  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Do you save bitcoin for fun or for future purpose? on: October 09, 2017, 03:40:45 PM
I have think of it and i have save up bitcoin just a the small amount because i have plans for it to have fun like travelling didn't even save it for future purpose. so i wanted to know what are you going to do with your bitcoin if you save bitcoin. Why do you save bitcoin for? and why? what is the purpose why you save up bitcoin to your wallet and not to spend it.

For me, I'm saving bitcoin to have an extra income, for financial matters and yes to also save for future purposes. And I'm having fun doing things to earn bitcoins. I mean, it gives me joy while doing it, even if I'm the only one in the house who understand what I'm doing.
It is good to save and you will be happy for the bitcoin in the coming days, the value of the things we buy for daily needs are increasing so hold your bitcoin and wait till the price will be high. Both can be happen with the bitcoin but I think money is the serious thing so don’t waste it for the fun just is serious and make the profit from your bitcoin.

I agree, bitcoin is a serious investment. Thanks to bitcoin, you can become a rich man. That's why I do not spend my coins on things that you can buy for Fiat. Bitcoin I use only for investment

I do the same. I've been serious with my investment in Bitcoin and prevent myself as much as possible from spending it. I intend my Bitcoin investment to be long term so I've been hodling it for quite some time already. I don't see it as something "for fun" because continuously earning and restraining from spending is quite hard. I've been tempted several times to cash out especially when the price is high but I would always remind myself that this investment would be worth it especially in the long run.
876  Economy / Economics / Re: panic selling on: October 09, 2017, 05:06:08 AM
What if somebody will make a huge dump and sell it all the way to earn some profits because of this rally in bitcoin,and someone sees it and do that same thing. Is there any effect on bitcoin when someone to this,?
It depends upon how much bitcoins is going to be dumped.In earlier stages,chinese most often dumped their bitcoins to earn profits and when the price fell due to it,they once again bought it at lower price..but now it seems to be not working since bitcoin has investors now world wide and even if any one tries to dump his bitcoins to rebuy,then he would be the ultimate loser since there would be no effect on the bitcoin price due to huge buy wall.

I think that a huge dump would have a drastic effect, and may even possibly cause a domino effect of dumps if the others start to panic sell. A huge dump would make the price lower and others may choose to dump their coins too and sell once this happens, and the cycle would go on and on. This is what happens during a financial crisis, and this happens not only with bitcoins. Banks closes and market crashes all of sudden or overnight when people start to panic sell.
877  Economy / Speculation / Re: Do you check Bitcoin price everyday? on: October 09, 2017, 03:56:04 AM
Of course, I checked many times everyday and I bet almost all bitcoiner does. It's part of my everyday routine once I pick up my phone. There is no day that I didn't check the price wether I have bitcoin left in my wallet or none.

I do so as well. It's become a part of my routine and I do it daily even if I only have a small amount of coins in my wallet. It's convenient that I am able to check the prices with the use of my wallet, and I am also able to compare price charts for a day, month or year-round. I check it so that I may be updated even if I do not intend to sell my bitcoin just yet. It does not affect me when the price goes down because I am firm with my decision not to sell it at the moment.
878  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: is it risky to turn all my money to bitcoins? on: October 09, 2017, 03:51:24 AM
Yes, it is risky. Even with the trust you have on Bitcoin and cryptocurrency, you'll be in trouble let's say for example if the market crashes. It would still be ideal to have some back up in the form of fiat money even if it's just sitting in the bank and do nothing. Its better to have it there for the purposes of security. You should have a variety of assets so that all your funds and investment is just in one place.
879  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Patience and Holding on: October 09, 2017, 03:22:27 AM
It depends on what your strategy is. You can't hold on forever, that would be a stupid thing to do. The best strategy, I think, is that you buy low and sell high. That means that you don't hold your coins until kingdom come, you hold them until you see that opportunity to sell them and make a profit. After that buy again when time comes to buy, that way you get a stead stream of income to your trading and not just speculating that the prices will go up in the future. But that really depends on the strategy of the investor/trader. It all varies from person to person.

It's really amazing how simple trading is right, buy low, sell high, the problem is that people's FOMO gets to them so much that they either can't close a position or they buy in at completely the wrong time.

Yeah simple rule but always forgotten when someone panics.
Many us here don't know exactly how long we will wait for the price to go down so we can buy in cheap and sell when it's in the highest. Yeah it's really hard to tell whether this is the right time so I suggest to trust our sub conscious mind or alter ego, if the price is fine with you then go for it. Just set a target price and don't be too greedy. Better to have at least profited than ends up to nothing.

A lot are victims of FOMO, not only in trading. Just because a lot of people have been doing something, others feel pressured to do the same. So when a lot of people collectively sell their coins once the price goes down, others feel pressured to sell theirs as well instead of use this opportunity to buy coins at low price. One shouldn't succumb to such pressures when trading.

You must have the right amount of patience because trading is all about good and careful timing.
880  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How do you convince people into you using Bitcoin? on: October 09, 2017, 02:13:08 AM
Many people need big proof to satisfy that this site is legit ..whats the best way to convince your relatives or friends
I think the best way to convince people and relatives here in bitcoin is to show how it chages our lives and we can say that we are earning money through bitcoins. I have encouraged some of my relatives to use bitcoin and after sharing my experience to them, they are convinced. If we have successful stories in bitcoin, maybe we can encourage others to use it.

Most of those who have heard about my earnings were amazed and got interested. The best way to show them that my earnings from bitcoin are legit is by exchanging it to fiat. The exchange rate for bitcoin to fiat in my country is quite high, so a lot may utilize bitcoin earnings for sideline income or daily expenses. Those who don't have regular jobs especially would resort to earning bitcoins.

Other than the earnings, there are other advantages and benefits to Bitcoin which you can showcase so that they may be enticed to invest.
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