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861  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: DWOLLA vs Paypal vs Bitcoin on: May 27, 2013, 08:07:29 PM
OK

You have a vision of what you want it to be. 

Best wishes.
862  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What happens if you are sent a payment and your wallet is not connected? on: May 27, 2013, 07:57:09 PM
Also keep in mind that your transaction is sent to *everyone*. This is great because it means that if you have your wallet.dat file with you, you could theoretically travel the 7 seas, hop off at the nearest port, walk up to the first best PC that is synced, update the wallet.dat file and start buy from whichever merchant you choose right there and then.

That's correct right?


That's about right.

It is also possible to "receive" bitcoin to an address that is paired with a private key that is stored on paper, having never been connected to the internet. When the time comes to spend to coins held on said address, the private key is imported into a Bitcoin client or redeemed through a reputable service, such as blockchain.info.


Well stated, and significant.
863  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: DWOLLA vs Paypal vs Bitcoin on: May 27, 2013, 07:51:59 PM
If we cannot make the case for Bitcoins, who can?
Common sense? I'm not trying to make the case for bitcoin, I'm trying to compare DWOLLA/Paypal/Bitcoin.

Those are the real threats to wealth.
You had proposed a few more lines for the table, which was great, then you made it a fanboy rant with this last comment (who gives a shit about threatening wealth? we're comparing money services), so I'd like to outline some sensical discussion guidelines for this thread:

  • how bitcoin is different from DWOLLA/Paypal
  • what parts of this list need corrections
  • additional points to add to the table

Please leave the fanboy/cultism at the door on this one.

Thanks

Interesting perspective.

I do not consider it to be a fanboy rant.  I consider it to be recognizing the most significant advantages, rather than just treating all attributes as equally significant.

u mad?



864  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Should Bitcoin form a freedom fighters army? on: May 27, 2013, 07:38:34 PM

On the topic of mesh networking, I think the 1 ingredient that's really missing from replacing the internet is a new wifi spec that supports more range... The OLPC laptops they've been giving out for years already show a decent amount of ad-hoc range but it's clearly not enough to cover a big city without every user online.

Can WiFi Mesh Networking gaps be bridged with wireless or even land phone lines?  Resurrection of modems?
865  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: DWOLLA vs Paypal vs Bitcoin on: May 27, 2013, 07:17:02 PM

It sounds like you want me to make it lean to sound like bitcoin is better (which it isn't in some cases). Regardless, I'd agree to include more points in the list of course.

Just offering some suggestions.  Whatever works.  Nothing succeeds like success.  If we cannot make the case for Bitcoins, who can?  

In my opinion, the relative immunity to confiscation, taxation, and inflation may ultimately outweigh all the others.  Those are the real threats to wealth.
866  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: DWOLLA vs Paypal vs Bitcoin on: May 27, 2013, 07:02:19 PM
The graphic comparison method is good.

Just make sure to do comparisons that accentuate the advantages of Bitcoin, and eliminate those that do not.  Otherwise it becomes a table or a spreadsheet.

  • Irreversible
  • Anonymous
  • Move money internationally
  • Not subject to inflation
  • Extremely low transaction cost


867  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Should Bitcoin form a freedom fighters army? on: May 26, 2013, 07:12:11 AM
Freedom isn't free.


Soldiers of fortune perhaps.
868  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: I'm going on a Bitcoin World Tour on: May 26, 2013, 07:08:10 AM

2) Bitcoin is a tiny piece of the cryptocurrency puzzle, but it's the most visible one right now.

A tiny piece?
869  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What is eBay policy on Bitcoin? on: May 26, 2013, 04:13:47 AM

Don't believe what corporate types say publicly.

The truth is that Ebay/Paypal is closing/freezing accounts for anyone who sells bitcoin on ebay.  There are other threads on here about it as well.  So take that for what it's worth and actions speak louder than words.

These are recently completed auctions of bitcoins on ebay:

http://www.ebay.com/sch/Coins-Paper-Money-/11116/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=bitcoin&LH_Complete=1&rt=nc
870  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What is eBay policy on Bitcoin? on: May 26, 2013, 03:20:03 AM
But now this...

eBay CEO weighs PayPal bitcoin option
http://www.coindesk.com/ebay-ceo-weighs-paypal-bitcoin-option/
871  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What is eBay policy on Bitcoin? on: May 26, 2013, 03:15:50 AM
ebay allows sales of Bitcoin, and Paypal is a common payment method(!).

But priced in BTC?  I doubt it.
872  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Stefan Molyneux adds Bitcoin to donations page on: May 25, 2013, 07:56:16 PM
Because of this thread, I listened to Stefan Molyneux for the first time.

He spoke of taxation as the power to harass enemies.

I view Bitcoin as a way to limit government's harassment of people.
873  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What happens when the US makes crypto-currency illegal? on: May 25, 2013, 07:21:12 PM
the one thing all Americans should agree on is Constitutional rules are the ones which ultimately matter.

I agree with that, but would add the caveat that the Constitution is a living document, and the rules within changes and grows with our society.

"[There's] the argument of flexibility and it goes something like this: The Constitution is over 200 years old and societies change. It has to change with society, like a living organism, or it will become brittle and break. But you would have to be an idiot to believe that; the Constitution is not a living organism; it is a legal document. It says something and doesn't say other things.... "
Justice Antonin Scalia
874  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Trustless, physical crypto cash on: May 25, 2013, 06:25:43 PM
OK then.
875  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Trustless, physical crypto cash on: May 25, 2013, 06:11:27 PM
I got a kickass idea ...

Great ideas in history seldom start with that phrase.
876  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What happens when the US makes crypto-currency illegal? on: May 25, 2013, 05:39:06 PM
The government is powerful, but it is also simultaneously fat, lazy, and ponderous.  Our opponent is not so much James Bond as it is Barney Fife or Sergeant Schultz.

Bitcoin dealers are required to register as financial institutions.  We must adapt to that reality.  We can adapt better than they can.
877  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin will go Viral on: May 25, 2013, 04:55:37 PM
I guess the real question is, when will something *important* use bitcoin. Donations are not important in my book, neither is *anything* the bitcoin community creates for other bitcoiners. Amazon using it (never happen, they have Amazon coins that make them a profit), eBay using it (never gonna happen, too many issues with user fraud), Apple using it (never gonna happen, they have iTunes credits they make a fortune off of and enjoy controlling) would all make bitcoin a success in terms of the average household holding bitcoins within a few years time.

Ac-Cent-Tchu-Ate the Positive:

  • Moving wealth privately from one country to another (happening)
  • Allowing wagering on non-state-approved lotteries (happening)
  • Allowing purchase of non-state-approved substances (happening)
  • Allowing storage of wealth in non-state-controlled fiat (happening)
878  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is democracy even possible? on: May 25, 2013, 03:59:25 AM
Is democracy with term limits an improvement, or just an illusion?
879  Economy / Economics / Re: Billionaires hate Bitcoin. on: May 25, 2013, 02:35:26 AM
Billionaires are just like everyone else.  They just have more Bitcoins.
880  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Do You Know Anyone In Jail? on: May 24, 2013, 08:29:47 PM
I would like to start sending letters to people in jail.

1st. I've been in jail and I know it's awesome getting mail
2nd. When they get out they have to go on probation usually, and need a job. Bitcoin mining & trading (and things like writing on Devtome) could legally fill that void so that they don't have to turn right back to criminal activity.
3rd. The idea of Bitcoin needs to be shared amongst struggling people

How about a Bitcoins for Bail fund?

To get some pre-trial detainees out.

Dope busts, etc.

"Good people at bitcointalk.org have decided to help you post bail..."

If they show up for trial, we re-cycle the money for someone else.

If they run, post their name and photo in this forum.

Evaluate the project periodically.

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