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861  Other / Meta / Re: Stake your Bitcoin address here on: August 13, 2015, 09:25:32 AM
Everyone before me seems to be quoted, here's mine!

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862  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin is crashing. Why? :( on: August 12, 2015, 05:21:21 PM
Maybe BTC is crashing because the liquidity on bitcoin exchanges is decreasing

Looks like plenty of liquidity on Finex - the rate is at a low point, too (0.0055%): https://bfxdata.com/swapstats/btc
863  Other / Off-topic / Re: When and why did you start using Bitcoin? on: August 12, 2015, 08:36:12 AM
I saw an article on Slashdot in 2010, found Gavin's faucet and got 0.5 BTC, saw that people on Bitcointalk were spending way more than 0.5 BTC when they bought things, so I tried mining - CPU mining. It took me a whole 4 days with my PC on constantly before I found my first block, and got a 50 BTC reward. Then I checked out exchanges - there was only one, it wasn't in my country, and 50 BTC was - after FX costs - practically worthless. I lost interest.

Some time during early 2011 I saw another article on Slashdot - 1 BTC was approaching the $1 mark, and - even better - there were now exchanges and over-the-counter options in my country! I quickly discovered that mining was now much harder, but I bought a fast GPU are started mining again. Another 4 day wait, but I mined another block! And another! And more! But you know how this ends - difficulty rose constantly. I tried mining pools, and they helped for a while, but in the end GPU mining was no longer profitable for me and I stopped. In hindsight mining was exactly the wrong decision - I should have spent my GPU money (and my electricity money) on buying BTC outright. Most of the BTC I mined I sold (long ago, long before the price was anything near $100, let alone $1000) to pay bills. But I did have some left over, and this time I didn't lose interest but kept half an eye on Bitcoin.

My next burst of activity came in late 2013 - I'm sure you all know what prompted it! I considered - and rejected - selling my remaining BTC. When I thought the price was low I bought and other times I looked for ways to increase the BTC I had. I wasn't prepared to gamble, and I know from experience (2011, MtGox) that I am not a good trader. But I found Bitfinex, where I could lend out BTC, and Coinut, where I could hedge against price changes. So I'm in the fortunate position of having made and lost a fortune (and not realising it at the time), but also having enough left over to be able to accumulate more. Not enough to retire anytime soon, but enough to let me think that I could maybe retire someday!
864  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin is crashing. Why? :( on: August 12, 2015, 07:16:11 AM

I am worried as I sell my gift cards and mobile recharges for the bitcoin value as hence if it decreases, I'll bear the loss. I'm not that worried but I wanted it to be above $300 atleast. The decreasing value isn't a good sign.

You can insure the current value of your BTC!

There are a couple of Bitcoin Options exchanges - options allow you to hedge against a fall (or rise) in price. Basically you buy a contract (cost around 1% of what your "insuring") called a "Put" that allows you to sell your BTC for $300. If BTC/USD goes down then the value of your contract goes up, allowing you to sell it and offset the BTC/USD fall.

I think there's a real need for a user-friendly BTC insurance experience, and - to be honest - Bitcoin Options aren't it. Over time I believe they'll develop, and new businesses will develop around them, but for the time being this may be your best option for insurance.

Anyway - if my explanation or the words "options" and "exchanges" don't put you off Smiley - here's a couple of links:

  • https://quedex.net is new, and not trading yet, but worth keeping an eye on.
  • https://coinut.com has been trading for a while now. Their website is a bit primary-coloured and "Bootstrappy" but seems very functional. This link is referer-free; there's a full-fat link in my sig if you'd like to show me some love!

PS. "Options" can be terrifying, and people will caution you not to trade options. This is good advice (unless you know exactly what you're doing: don't trade options). Buying an option, as outlined above, however - now that's using options as they were intended, and the risks and rewards are clearly defined: the risk is that BTC/USD remains static or rises - if that happens you'll lose the money you spent on insurance. Exactly like the insurance premiums you pay for home insurance, or car insurance. (The "reward", of course, applies when BTC/USD falls - your "reward" then offsets that loss).
865  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Best way to send someone you know $400 bucks inside USA let's see if BTC works? on: August 12, 2015, 06:53:33 AM

I think in UK it may be more viable since btc has caught on in UK and EURO more, or am I wrong with?

I'm not sure. What I can say is that bank transfers seem to be a viable way to pay for BTC in the UK. I use LocalBitcoins (in the UK) for purchasing BTC, and the quickest way to pay seems to be "National Bank Transfer" - usually a two-hour (max) wait for the funds to transfer, then LocalBitcoin release the BTC from escrow.

I gather it is not this straightforward in the US? (And, to be fair, this is all a rather recent innovation in the UK - two hours seems mind-blowingly fast after the three-five business days we've had to tolerate for most of UK banking history!)

Having said all that - for a UK-UK transfer of your hypothetical $400 - if both parties have UK bank accounts, the cheapest and probably quickest way would be a bank transfer - no fees, and the recipient should have their money in a couple of hours. (Assuming your $400 had been converted into GBP - if not, then add on FX charges etc). Anything more complicated than a UK-UK transfer, however, and I'd look to use BTC.

866  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 09, 2015, 10:38:23 AM

Because as I just said above its nothing to do with how big or small your walls are.

1) If you look at bid/ask support to base your trade decisions on quit trading right now, yesterday was a perfect example of this.  The Finex books have been stuffed with big bids above $270 for a week or so. All of a sudden thousands of btc in bids gets pulled and the price dumps. Happens all the time.

2) OKcoin only shows 5% of its books if it showed it all you would see very large walls.

3) Yes volume and the fact its the market leading exchange, most the time all the other exchanges are being dragged around by China, it's been this way for a long time.

Note, a large majority of western traders also trade on chinese exchanges due to their low fees, higher liquidity and better order options.

I didn't trade on Gox (well, not since 2011) but I followed their BTC/USD exclusively until it became obvious something was badly wrong. It was around then I realised that BTC/CNY volume was higher than BTC/USD, and I started following various Chinese exchanges (I understand the arguments about fake volume - I just don't think they're relevant for my purposes.) These days I tend to follow OKCoin for that reason, and Finex and Stamp because any trading I do is likely to be in BTC/USD!

You mention Western traders trading on Chinese exchanges - any recommendations? Even for somewhere online such traders hang out...
867  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 09, 2015, 10:21:32 AM
I had 1-minute charts open for OKCoin, Finex and Stamp, and the latter two definitely followed. Not saying OKCoin necessarily led, but it definitely looked to me like BTC/CNY leading BTC/USD.
It's ridiculous to follow the Chinese exchanges with their tiny walls. Of course the NLC team is going to dump its two coins there and drop the price by ten dollars. How does it work, really?
It's useful if you get a few seconds/minutes advance notice of what's about to happen over on Finex and Stamp...
Yes, but why does it happen? Traders do not follow BTC-e around much, although they have tiny walls too.

Volume (fake or otherwise) is my guess. It's easier to dump into an exchange with high (or at least, consistent) volume.
868  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 09, 2015, 10:10:47 AM
I had 1-minute charts open for OKCoin, Finex and Stamp, and the latter two definitely followed. Not saying OKCoin necessarily led, but it definitely looked to me like BTC/CNY leading BTC/USD.
It's ridiculous to follow the Chinese exchanges with their tiny walls. Of course the NLC team is going to dump its two coins there and drop the price by ten dollars. How does it work, really?
It's useful if you get a few seconds/minutes advance notice of what's about to happen over on Finex and Stamp...

I don't have the guts to trade BTC-proper - I know from bitter experience that I'm part of the reason exchange owners make money - but I do occasionally dabble with options. Yesterday I had enough time to take out a long straddle at 280 (profit if BTC/USD went beyond ~290, profit if it dropped below ~270) before the USD exchanges properly reacted. I didn't get a chance to repeat the trick at 270, because that time round the CNY exchanges gave no early indication.
869  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin will never reach $20 again on: August 09, 2015, 09:01:27 AM
This is why I have liquidated my position in Bitcoins.  There is very little upside going forward.  No forward moves of late have any traction whatsoever and demand continues to lag.  Way too little upside for such a risky proposition so my advice is to move into dollars.  Only a significant change in the economy could alter this forecast.

 Grin Grin Grin Ironically, it is true that bitcoin will never reach $20 again! Albeit for the opposite reason the OP intended!  Grin Grin Grin

I hope the ebook he is promoting in his sig is more insightful than this post was. ...

I dunno, it was a pretty good post. He seems to have timed it perfectly: after his post there were 18 months where BTC stagnated. It wasn't until February 2013 before there was any upside on July 2011.
870  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 09, 2015, 08:52:46 AM

Btw finex started this quick dump, not goxobi/okgox as they usually do it .
Are you talking about the last dump - the 21:45 UTC one? Because the dumps before that all looked they were like China-led. I had 1-minute charts open for OKCoin, Finex and Stamp, and the latter two definitely followed. Not saying OKCoin necessarily led, but it definitely looked to me like BTC/CNY leading BTC/USD.
871  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 08, 2015, 07:05:40 PM

My bank forces me to use "security" questions like "what is your mother's maiden name?" As a point of principle I avoid anything easily guessible or socially-engineerable, so brain wallets probably aren't for me. But to be fair - Ryan Castellucci's estimate of a botnet taking a day to crack 8 character passwords isn't a huge concern to me. People are going to use crap passwords - at their bank, or on their brain wallet. It's a social problem.
872  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 08, 2015, 07:37:09 AM

What will happen to the coins that were deposited by Multiple users.
will Brainwallet open after some Time or it has turned into Scam?
I see i am able to log in..
should i remove my coins from there?
What do you mean by Empty String?


The reddit thread is quite a good introduction to the issue. It seems it's not an issue with Brainwallet as such, but rather with people - instead of using a decent passphrase, some people were using trivial phrases. "Empty string" is a passphrase with no length - the simplest, easiest-to-guess passphrase possible. (Another example of a bad passphrase that people have used is "cat" - not an empty string, but a very short (3 character) string. And broken in seconds, apparently.

tl;dr - nothing new under the Sun, and this was a social problem not a technical problem.
873  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Best way to earn Bitcoins? on: August 07, 2015, 06:02:37 PM
-snip-

I wonder what other interesting ways there are to earn Bitcoins that is on the forum. Smiley

Also you can offer some lending with interest, but it's need more carefully, you need research first to person who want to loan to you.

An alternative approach is to lend through Bitfinex - they take on the counterparty risk, ensure that the counterparty has collateral, etc. The lender can either accept a demand from a borrower, or set a rate (and amount, duration) and wait for a borrower to accept the offer. Over time the rate tends to gravitate towards 0.0055%, though I've always been lucky enough to get a better rate.

Obviously there's still exchange risk with this approach: I'd advise against putting all your coins in one exchange.
874  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Loaning - Is it worth it? on: August 07, 2015, 05:22:42 PM
I've found lending out BTC on Bitfinex to be easy and apparently risk-free (as far as that's possible). Bitfinex provide "total return swaps" - basically the lender sets a rate, amount and duration (say: 0.0055%, 1 BTC, 2 days) and waits for a borrower to accept (or the lender can set a rate that a borrower has already demanded).

Bitfinex cover the counterparty risk - the borrower is borrowing on margin, and Bitfinex will do a margin call if the borrower's position approaches the point beyond which they could pay you back.

Obviously there's still exchange risk - Bitfinex currently seem pretty solid, but the usual rules apply: spread your risk, keep on top of information about exchanges you're dealing with, etc.

I don't know what rates to expect elsewhere (I suspect rates probably are better elsewhere) but the 0.0055% rate seems to be the long-term trend. It's still better than the 0% rate I was getting before I moved (some of) my coins to Bitfinex! (And I've been luck so far and always managed to get better than 0.0055%).

(No connection with Bitfinex except as a satisfied customer).
875  Economy / Economics / Re: profit maximizing on: August 07, 2015, 11:21:53 AM
A few general recommendations that should apply whatever strategy you decide on...

  • Consider keeping some of your BTC in an offline wallet, where it'll be safe and you won't be tempted to touch it!
  • Spread the rest between exchanges - don't put all your eggs in one basket.
  • Consider alternatives to basic trading.

    You can lend your BTC on Bitfinex.com using "Total Return Swaps" (you set a rate, an amount and a duration - say 0.006% on 1 BTC for 2 days - and an eager short accepts your loan, pays the rate daily, then returns your 1 BTC).

    Alternatively, if price is volatile but you can't predict if it'll go up or down - you could buy both CALL and PUT options at Coinut.com with the same "strike price" - that way you can only lose the money you spent buying the options. If the BTC/USD price moves enough - in either direction - you'll make a profit that'll cover the cost of buying the two options.

Good luck - I hope whatever you do you're profitable!

The links above are referrer-free, but if you wanted to send some love my way... https://coinut.com/?r=807 Smiley
876  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: When quoting small amounts of bitcoin, how do you call 100 satoshis? on: October 22, 2014, 06:17:41 PM
I think the SI base-unit for mass is the kg, further adding to the confusion.

Just no. The base unit for mass in the SI system is the gram. Defined as the mass of 1 ml of water at STP.

No, the SI base unit for mass is the kilogram, and it's the only base unit not defined by a fundamental physical property - though that may change very soon.
877  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 13, 2014, 08:53:00 PM

yeah that page is blocked in North Korea where I live, sorry I meant the UK.

I'm UK, works for me. Maybe try through a proxy if your ISP is limiting what its paying customers can access. (And maybe consider switching to a different ISP).
878  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: When quoting small amounts of bitcoin, how do you call 100 satoshis? on: October 12, 2014, 11:00:53 AM
Just shouting out an one word response without a single sentence of reasoning is what I refer to as pointless post, and it doesn't bring the discussion any forward.

Agreed.

Thanks teukon: one word can be enough, and need not be characterised as 'shouting'.

Back on topic, what do one word replies like "satoshi", "bit" etc add to the discussion? I assumed it was posters telling us how they voted (which I guess they might have thought other people would find useful). Since we're talking about it could you maybe fill in the gaps and explain why you voted for "bit"?
879  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Which Bitcoin Client do you use and why ? on: October 10, 2014, 03:32:11 PM
For local wallets I think Multibit is the best (and they are working on a new version that looks awesome). For convenience, blockchain.

I have used multibit without problems for months. Recently I tried to download the latest version from their website, but my browser refused to load the page and gave a certificate error. This really pissed me off because I refuse to download the client from anywhere else.

This might be a result of the HTTPS related HeartBleed bug.

If it was it seems fixed now: https://filippo.io/Heartbleed/#www.multibit.org
880  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 09, 2014, 07:22:34 AM
Bitcoin won't ever go mainstream; Ever

This reminds me of the old thing about "this year being the year of the Linux desktop". It never happened - instead desktop PCs stopped being particularly relevant, and now we're all wandering around with Linux on our (Android) phones, watching TVs that run on Linux, driving cars that have embedded Linux control- and entertainment-systems, etc.

tl;dr - I don't think Bitcoin will go mainstream, either. I can't wait to see what amazing things it does instead!
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