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881  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Which gambling sites offers investment on: February 11, 2019, 02:20:14 PM
Gambling that offer free investment? Well there are some probably but in my opinion not safe because mostly ppl nowadays have negative feedback about it here in forum . And base on my research there's no results found around the internet maybe it still not popular because of being have a low ratings,
What is the relation of the negative trust in the forum with the investment on the gambling site? Do you mean it is ponzi scheme, ponzi scheme cant be trusted as almost everytime it is scam?

Actually you should see what his red trust about, there should be details that they put on it so by clicking on it you should know if they are suppose to deal with him or not. Mostly by being tagged as a red trust is already a must to cut everything that related from him but sometimes they are still managing to make the red trust gone so you need to double check again
Negative red trust is for particular issue only, but in the end, it's still depend on the investors to decide as that is not the basis to consider
a certain site a scam, and I've seen a lot bitcoin talk accounts from a certain gambling sites with red trust but people are still playing with them.
Red trust is more likely a warning and it's up to the people on how to interpret it, as investors you also do some background checking.

Yes, it is a warning but I do not think that some investors are putting this aside and consider this as nothing happens. They should take this into account that something is happens on their site or their system as well. And with these things, hope they can consider to invest on such a site. With the fishy background, it is hard for any particular site to invest there
882  Economy / Gambling / Re: FORTUNEJACK.COM |Deposit 777 play with 1777 mBTC |Live Casino, Slots, Betting on: February 11, 2019, 11:23:25 AM
If you take a 40X wager bonus then you are insane. I wouldn't dare touch it. There are plenty of casinos with 20X - 30X. What FJ is doing is ripping people off, and some of you just continue to kiss up to them. 40X is roguish
But, I believe people who think x40 is a must on a horrible odd bet are not really well informed about how x40 works. You can play with 1% of your bankroll and keep on betting the smallest wager there is and actually bet on 90% win odds as well and keep doing that on auto forever until it reaches to x40.

The possibility to actually lose all of your money in that scenario is very little and you will most likely get the deposit bonus. You don't need to play x40 at once and get it, you can play anything, there is no restriction on your bets, you just have to wager x40 in total. So, if you deposit 0.5 and the x40 is 20 btc that means you can bet 10 satoshi on 90% for 200 million times, even tough you may lose a lot in there you will most probably not lose too much and will get that bonus after all.

Let say if your strategy work well, how much do you even left for that? To think that someone actually using this to get some profit is pretty useless thing. I do not say that it is not possible to do that, but with the time limit usually there is no way someone could achieve it, unless they are pretty lucky. And with 10 satoshi, how long do you think that it will work? 200mil bets is really long to get though

Sorry no offend on FJ but this is how the things works and it is your own choice to take it or not but a long term player usually do not bite this thing
883  Economy / Gambling / Re: ⭐Crypto-Games.net ⭐4 Years Old ⭐LARGEST wagering contest⭐New Game - Minesweeper on: February 11, 2019, 04:41:13 AM
You can't select any more fields once your next step win would be greater then max win.

This is actually for manual clicking right? I do not play on manual actually, play with autobot for sure so I do not think it will work like that.

What I really want to know is about the treshold, how much can we get actually? If the rest of my winning are being put on treshold, am I be able to get it back again with couple of winning?

Autobet or manual game, same logic.

Here is list of payouts for each game: https://www.dropbox.com/s/m41rboutb5e14bl/payouts.txt?dl=0

mines = number of mines you select on start of game
discovered = number of fields you discovered
payout = payout multiplier

So you can calculate it yourself.

Thanks for the table payout but just now I tried your automatic bet with of course min 100 sat set to 12 mines. But the game keeps rejected me saying that "picks are limited to 9 tiles with 12 mines. Please reduce your selection"

Is this something weird? Cause the total tiles should be 25 meanwhile if I do exactly 9 tiles, it only counts 21 tiles, so where is the rest for the maximum payout?
if win amount is larger than 4 BTC, bet cannot be placed.

I already checked the payout table which is given to me that with 12 mines and 9 tiles open there is only 2000x payout which is not even close to 4 btc. I set to the minimum bet which is 100 sat but with this set I can't even do the max payout. Please do me a favor to check on this? Or may be there is something wrong with my account?
884  Economy / Gambling / Re: HexProfit.Com - Invest bitcoin and make profit - Gambling Starting in 12.02.2019 on: February 10, 2019, 11:22:30 PM
Actually site is pretty good but what I want to ask is about the investment program. First, there is no way to open investment without any risk, like you said our initial balance will still be there when the site is on negative profit, how can this be? Please give some explanation here. Second thing, the investment is important thing so you need to give us the distribution for the investment program
Thank you for your questions.For first question:If bank makes negative profit than we will pay from our own pocket.Yes that is risky for us,but we considered that.For your suggestion i contacted with our developers for that.
For other things:I am aware that there is missing things.But we are hard working and trying to improve the site as fast as possible.

If you are going to pay out from your bankroll then you must give us some clue on how much is the max bet and how much bankroll do you guys have so everyone will play according to this. May be some big whale are going to bet exceed the limit and do not get the payout then it will cause some chaos through it.

Anyway about the investment, then we will always getting profit? Even if we are still on negative? I do not quite understand about this thing yet, may be some explaination will be good
Hi,like i said in the older posts.If bank makes negative profit we will pay from our pocket.But investors will make profit only if bank's profit is greater than %0.
For example: If site makes -10% profit then investors will get their money back and won't do any profit.
Another example: If site makes 0% profit then investors will get their money back and won't do any profit.
Another example: If site makes 30% profit then investors will make %30 profit.And if a investors make 1BTC investment he will get 1.3BTC(It includes the investment,so profit is 0.3BTC)
Also developers working on about our statictics.Site will get updated in 5-6 hours.

So in the end you guys do not let investors get on negative? Because I saw some big site last time with a normal investment, suddenly some big winning coming and dry their bankroll almost to zero and now they is hardly to come back again. And by this you mean you do not let investors be on negative, do you even consider about the withdrawal process? Do you can let them withdraw directly if something like this happen?
885  Economy / Gambling / Re: ⭐ BTCPLAYMANIA - best bitcoin casinos in one place ⭐ [EN/RU] on: February 10, 2019, 04:49:36 PM
There are a billion website like this, even tough I agree that yours look good (good graphics and design) it really stands out only with the youtube addition which many others do not have.

I would suggest making this topic more like ranking and getting help from other gamblers to suggest ratings for casinos because only then we can say its decentralized enough, however just to make it more legit and to prevent other casinos to openly lie about others maybe do not allow newbies and just accept either full members or sr.members to be able to vote for websites. That way you can both have a good website and also have a difference from all other billions of websites that just does the same thing over and over again, I have talked with one of the most visited websites of this style and even they didn't made any decent profit so you need to make a big thing to make this more visited and liked.

Nowadays there is no reviews site that really give the best options to play on because what I saw most of them only giving such a payment to talk this and that without giving real play on their site, more over if they has good traffic on their site, mostly it is just based on their payment. So usually I try to find it here whether it is a good site to play or not by saw other experience and myself as well to make sure the site is worth to play
886  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🔥 ERENA.io 🔥 - The Litecoin Crash Game - Wager weekly challenge & PvP Lotto on: February 10, 2019, 03:06:33 PM
A new version of our faucet will be available this week!
Thanks for the advice
That would be a nice comply, faucet works to add more visitors and we knew that traffic counts as an additional factors when gamblers / players
are looking for site to play, and some of them also use faucets to try the house game, if they enjoy for sure they will deposit real money inside
the house.


At least the faucet is used by most people to start a gamble without having to make a deposit. This factor is a determinant of a gambling site, when the gambling site they have has interesting features and is different from other gambling sites, they will no longer use the faucet to start gambling, they can deposit directly into this gambling site.
I don't think they will stop faucet, they don't give much of their money from faucet but the effect of that faucet is good to the gambling site.
They will retain it even if their games and their sites will become popular, just like other gambling sites that are popular now, they still have faucets included.

I do not think that by removing faucet it will give you significant changes though . But as far as I know that faucet is really needed for every sites to let people use it for testing the site so it is a main thing to have this. Of course you need to have some strict rules on this to make sure people dont keep on abusing it because it is irritating to have this faucet abuser. As long as there is no abuser, any site will keep on growing

Faucet is back. I agree on the point of using whatever amount you can get from the faucet to try the features of the site. That's one way of enticing users. Who knows, user that got hooked up with the game will deposit his hard-earned money just to continue his game? And I believe it's easy now to eliminate abusers, just limit one user per IP.

Actually it is hard for them to limit the ip because there is still many vpn can be used to abuse it. The only way to survive in this by make as minimal faucet as you can to try the site so they will think it is not worth to do. As long as they think it is worth their time to abuse it, they will keep on doing it again and again. So the best way is only make it as lower as you can to stop this abuser
887  Economy / Gambling / Re: Recommand some trusted bet site without kyc but secured on: February 10, 2019, 08:00:47 AM
Any gambling expert please recommond any trusted betting site where no need to kyc  and secured and you are still betting there.

What games do you like to play? Most game that do not required KYC is only dice game which is pretty popular among others. I would like to recommend some dice games which I played there mostly, you can go to bitsler, primedice and bitvest. There is so much more but I think these are the best on that you can get until this day. Everything is very smooth when you play there. You should try once
888  Economy / Gambling / Re: ⭐Crypto-Games.net ⭐4 Years Old ⭐LARGEST wagering contest⭐New Game - Minesweeper on: February 10, 2019, 05:22:20 AM
You can't select any more fields once your next step win would be greater then max win.

This is actually for manual clicking right? I do not play on manual actually, play with autobot for sure so I do not think it will work like that.

What I really want to know is about the treshold, how much can we get actually? If the rest of my winning are being put on treshold, am I be able to get it back again with couple of winning?

Autobet or manual game, same logic.

Here is list of payouts for each game: https://www.dropbox.com/s/m41rboutb5e14bl/payouts.txt?dl=0

mines = number of mines you select on start of game
discovered = number of fields you discovered
payout = payout multiplier

So you can calculate it yourself.

Thanks for the table payout but just now I tried your automatic bet with of course min 100 sat set to 12 mines. But the game keeps rejected me saying that "picks are limited to 9 tiles with 12 mines. Please reduce your selection"

Is this something weird? Cause the total tiles should be 25 meanwhile if I do exactly 9 tiles, it only counts 21 tiles, so where is the rest for the maximum payout?
889  Economy / Gambling / Re: NEW DICE - OddEvenBets.com - Winning 198%, House edge 1%, Provably fair on: February 09, 2019, 03:04:07 PM
This sites been operating for awhile now, and I'm wondering why you haven't add some good altcoins like ETH and Monero, and many more.
I don't know if its already added since like I said, I haven't sign up yet.

I'm just stuck looking at the poll you've created which compose of 5 choices only.

I was suppose to choose ETH or MONERO on the poll, but it's not part.

Site is been operating for long time ago and their dice is a new project but lacking of promotions and low bankroll like you guys know is a big problem to his site. Their game is not that bad as I can say but with lower bankroll players can maximize their play so most of them are getting out from here. They should need to increase their bankroll or may be open up some investment to gather more bankroll for playing
890  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🎲2 free bit every hour | minimum withdraw 1000 bit | BitCrash.us on: February 09, 2019, 01:02:04 PM
Hello to all active members of the forum.

Can anyone outline a good way to promote my site?

My site is a social gambling carsh game.

https://bitcrash.us



Likr everyone said, as far as I know signature campaign is the best promotion that you can do for now and it will boost your traffic as well. Or may be you can make some giveaways to try on your site. And you should be pretty active around so you can answer every single questions that they been asked. They will more likely to stay on your site that way

Anyway for the game, I believe everyone already know how it works already, you should do something to increase your traffic to make sure your site generate some profit back to the players
891  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in - Contest with $30,000 in GUARANTEED PRIZES now live! on: February 09, 2019, 10:57:33 AM
Is there a reason why the Lottery Winners' prizes amount became less than what it was a year ago? In contrary, the lottery ticket price was doubled (because of the current BTC price).
If I'm not mistaken, last 2017, winners number 1 & 2's prizes were at least 1.5BTC and 1.0BTC respectively; even #1 can't barely reach 1BTC even though Bitcoin's price is still at ~3k range.

Yeah, last year we had lots of bots exploiting the lottery. Someone figured out they could open tens of thousands of accounts and deposit and buy lottery tickets. This gave them free BTC bonus and enough tickets from free-rolls to win ~8 out 10 prizes each week which made it a +EV game for them.
If you look through the old results you'll see a very sharp drop in tickets after round 168 when we stopped paying out to them.

Great job then to put off so many bots here so at least what I know every single winners here is a real person Grin. Anyway about the lottery tickets, is it correspond with the wagering contest? I thought that higher wagered means better prize and better tickets as well. So with bigger wager amount, then the prize will be more than 1 btc right? Assume on your big wagering every month
892  Economy / Gambling / Re: everybet.io *** on: February 09, 2019, 05:31:23 AM
Been checking the site since a few weeks back. Still, it says 404 Not Found.

And none from the Everybet.io team seems to have the initiative to update us here on this thread whether or not we should still wait a little longer until the site goes back live. What a disappointment.

I do not think that OP is going to be back again since his last post is around January, although last online is on Feb 8th but still OP does not care about the site at all. There is not a single confirmation on his site whether it is going to continue or not. He is just not being responsible for what he started, so do not expect that much on this site anymore
893  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are gambling altcoins undervalued? on: February 09, 2019, 12:18:27 AM
Came across an interesting article looking at gambling altcoins and their value versus the rest of the crypto market and other gambling companies.

The conclusion was that gambling alts (like FunFair, Edgeless, etc.) are undervalued given that gambling is a key use case for cryptocurrencies.

Of course, FunFair at one point had a $900m+ marketcap (now just $21m).

Do you think these coins will bounceback? Will new ones emerge? Or do you think most people betting with crypto will stick with Bitcoin?

Here's the article: https://www.cryptogamblingnews.com/crypto-gambling-undervalued/



I do not know about your purpose, either if you are going to try some promote the coin here and ask people to gamble it or just literally make a discussion. But as far as I know with bitcoin price currently, there is not wise to stay on your feet. If you want to increase the value, of course you should gambling it, yes you will lose but it is much more better than stake it like that. We do not talking about some big coin like bitcoin, this is actually not cost that much so you can bet it slowly to regain everything back
894  Economy / Gambling / Re: ▂▃▅▆█ BITSLER █▆▅▃▂🎁$100,000 GUARANTEED EVERY MONTH IN WAGER CONTESTS &FREEROLL🎁 on: February 07, 2019, 08:18:57 AM
Justyna87 wasn't happy with profits in only 1 currency .. Impressive !  Cool
This is indeed a big crazy win. I believe in this 2019 there is so many big winners coming out suddenly. Congrats for the big winners. Wondering what strategy did they used to get this huge winning, anyone might be able to join them soon if they share it here  Cheesy. Mean while I can't even login to the site. Talk to Baryom but nothing good is coming yet, I am still waiting for them to fix my problems

Anyway, is this affected to your bankroll? Since so many winners keep on coming, last time if I am not mistaken there is a 10 btc for max profit, is it still there?
895  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Which gambling sites offers investment on: February 06, 2019, 06:06:44 PM
Gambling that offer free investment? Well there are some probably but in my opinion not safe because mostly ppl nowadays have negative feedback about it here in forum . And base on my research there's no results found around the internet maybe it still not popular because of being have a low ratings,
What is the relation of the negative trust in the forum with the investment on the gambling site? Do you mean it is ponzi scheme, ponzi scheme cant be trusted as almost everytime it is scam?

Actually you should see what his red trust about, there should be details that they put on it so by clicking on it you should know if they are suppose to deal with him or not. Mostly by being tagged as a red trust is already a must to cut everything that related from him but sometimes they are still managing to make the red trust gone so you need to double check again
896  Economy / Gambling / Re: *** Crypto Gamblers Pub *** Exchange between crypto gambling sites on: February 06, 2019, 05:08:53 PM
Exchange inside a gambling site is such a great thing that everyone can't even think of but how is it actually work? I tried clicking on your site and it is directly goes into X site and it said that "you do not have the permission" warning on it. Please give the details on how this things work so everyone will be able to convert their money into any currency and gamble like usual
897  Economy / Gambling / Re: Stake.com | The Most Popular Bitcoin Casino | ETH & LTC Accepted! 👽 on: February 06, 2019, 03:46:10 PM
I m face cheat on this site my 6200 doge was stolen there site customer representative tell me about 2fa but my question is how to anyone now my username and password on that particular sites I have all screenshot of deposit and withdrawal I can't make withdraw request but my fund was gone don't play there before time he was stand good site but now scammer don't play there your fund also gone also block me in chat without send any .

What I can say that your computer and laptop already been hacked. Usually hacker do not directly know your username and password but with the same thing keep on repeating again and again on other site, it might be traced back to every site that you ever click on. With the 2fa problem they might be remove it if they know your email and the name you put in there so everything is possible

Anyway 6200 doge is not a really big deal though, so I do not think it is their fault as well. Make sure your security is really tights to make sure thid wont be happens again
898  Economy / Gambling / Re: BITDICE.me - 🎲 Crypto Casino 🎰 Multi-Currency | Rainbot | Roll Hunt | Bonuses on: February 06, 2019, 01:11:04 PM
That's really interesting. But what kind of challenge will you add to this matters. Because it is player to player and there is nothing automated. Each one's winning need to be fair without anykind of mistakes, only then it will gain the reputation so that more users participates.
There are several ways to determine the winner it could be based from one of the following. Assuming all players would have an equal starting balance.
-profit not including losses
-wagered amount
-whoever has the highest balance at the end of the day
-rolling a specific number

There's no need to doubt bitdice if you think the players can cheat then someone trusted(maybe the escrow) has to be the referee for verification.

If no one is interested, that's fine too Wink
I'm interested but it might take time to fill in the remaining slots.
It will be easily fill the slots because there's a lot of gamblers around. The problem is how to attract them. Probably another thread in Gambling is the best thing to do. I'm more of a sports bettor though, so I'm not going to be interested, but with so many experienced gamblers around, I won't be surprised if all the slots will be taken.

For current situation, I do not think that they need to attract more people. By making some events people will always stand by and deposit some of their money already to play, so there is no need for them to asking people to play again on their site. It is already like automatically people will try to find them for betting on their casino or sportbetting
Every casino need to attract more people either they are too much reputed and well known or they are new. For example who has 10k users they need 15k users. Who has 1M users they need 1.1M users. So, attracting new people is a must.

But currently with this member I believe they are good enough and what they should do is maintaining this people by giving something new for them so they do not bore and will still keep on coming back. But for new players if they always come without staying, what is the point then? Gambling away some of their money and stay out from this site, do you think it works like that?
899  Economy / Gambling / Re: ⭐Crypto-Games.net ⭐4 Years Old ⭐LARGEST wagering contest⭐New Game - Minesweeper on: February 06, 2019, 10:12:33 AM
You can't select any more fields once your next step win would be greater then max win.

This is actually for manual clicking right? I do not play on manual actually, play with autobot for sure so I do not think it will work like that.

What I really want to know is about the treshold, how much can we get actually? If the rest of my winning are being put on treshold, am I be able to get it back again with couple of winning?
900  Economy / Gambling / Re: HexProfit.Com - Invest bitcoin and make profit - Gambling Starting in 12.02.2019 on: February 06, 2019, 07:33:01 AM
Actually site is pretty good but what I want to ask is about the investment program. First, there is no way to open investment without any risk, like you said our initial balance will still be there when the site is on negative profit, how can this be? Please give some explanation here. Second thing, the investment is important thing so you need to give us the distribution for the investment program
Thank you for your questions.For first question:If bank makes negative profit than we will pay from our own pocket.Yes that is risky for us,but we considered that.For your suggestion i contacted with our developers for that.
For other things:I am aware that there is missing things.But we are hard working and trying to improve the site as fast as possible.

If you are going to pay out from your bankroll then you must give us some clue on how much is the max bet and how much bankroll do you guys have so everyone will play according to this. May be some big whale are going to bet exceed the limit and do not get the payout then it will cause some chaos through it.

Anyway about the investment, then we will always getting profit? Even if we are still on negative? I do not quite understand about this thing yet, may be some explaination will be good
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