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1641  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in - Contest with $30,000 in GUARANTEED PRIZES now live! on: July 08, 2018, 02:47:14 PM
A 27 win streak would be really good still if anyone actually manages to get it without a large amount of gambling in order just to find that pattern.

How are you going to have 27 win streak? I do not think you can get that easily eventhough you have 1.1x payout. May be using 1.01 payout you will get it for sure but if lose once it will be a losing hard. Your next bet can't even recover your losing anyway and this strategy can't be used. It is not a profitable martingale as I can say. And btw about the pattern, is there anything like that? This is gambling site which is has many variances, hard to get the prediction as well
1642  Economy / Gambling / Re: 💰LottoBtc.org💰 | The Global Anonymous Lottery | 🎉1000000 FREE ENTRIES PROMO🎉 on: July 08, 2018, 11:58:46 AM
Ok then, it is so clear that you can give the explanation but still wondering why put the rest on your rake address, are you saying that it will not be on the pot? I think with the rest pun on the pot it will go up the last tier easily then you guys will have more spare. If this keep on cycling, then it will be easily for you guys to make some profit too so both player and banker will have some win

I'm not sure i'm fully understanding what you are asking. Are you asking why we need a rake in the first place? At the moment the 5% is helping cover the costs of promotions that we will be doing, website upkeep and development costs, as well as profit. Thats why 5% is taken and sent to the 1RAKE[...] address at the time of each drawing.

Nope, I am not asking how the rake is used, instead I am asking why 5% are not in your balance left, because consider your pot will be empty all the times after players win. But if you put X% on your pot then there is always some balance left. So it will be quick to fulfill the tier as well. Let say if 2.5 btc tier hits them you have 5% left which is around 0.125btc, although there is only little people play on the next block, as players we still can play on 0.125btc tier with, so it will make the site always alive


The 5% rake is sent to our rake address after. If the 5% was left in for people to play on the next block, then the 5% would not be 'ours' and would still be a lottery prize, therefore having a 100% lottery prize, which is unsustainable as a business. If there was a 2.5btc pot, and we left the 0.125 btc for the next draw to play with, what would we run the website on?

It does not matter if 5% go into your account or not but at least there should be something on the pot to make sure people will keep on playing instead of just stay on zero balance and it will not attract peolle to play. Anyway you still have your own bankroll to maintain your site or even improving it because this not something like investment program so you do not need that 5% rakeback actually
1643  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Deposit Altcoins and withdraw bitcoin? on: July 08, 2018, 04:28:59 AM
Are there any sportsbooks that allow you to deposit ETH or Litecoin and withdraw in bitcoin?

Trying to figure out if any sites offer that with out having to withdraw/convert or trade,drawing fees in the process.

I'm curious to know, why you want to do that while it is so simple to convert your eth/ltc or other alts to bitcoin and you will be able to deposit with bitcoin. Even if there is sportsbook or a gambling site lets you to do it, I guess the exchange rate will be under the global rate which means that you may get less amount.

Somehow OP are trying to bet with eth and ltc but instead of losing much then he will try to convert it to altcoin or bitcoin for make sure it is acceptable every where. Or this is what I thought, money laundry is the best answer to cover everything

If it possible for OP, may be you need to try to play not with sportbook but casino games, may be you will find the best option there, you can do shapeshifting too while you are betting. But to have directly change without using shapeshifting then you are not allowed on every single site
1644  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🔶 YOLOdice.com 🔶 FAST, play, invest, win on: July 08, 2018, 02:21:50 AM
it was explained and screen shots shown.

sorry if that is how we speak in this part of the country. 

again  ethan has shown nothing to me here or via email of proof of anything

heck yesterday i lost 1.5BTC on D**kdice  yesterday and not a peep.  Not crying on their thread or in their chat.

https://prnt.sc/k2xmmn

i feel this site has a bug and refuses to accept it, or fixed it in the update.

thanks to ppl who reached out to me  with their stories, and dont want to post here out of fear.

i have shown tons of screen shots,  shown  that i lose  way bigger amounts that the 0.11   in this case, and do it without whining or crying

why can some of you see that it is NOT about losing 1 stupid bet,  it was how it happened and no one can explain but say" oh well this may have happened" or well it cant be my site it has to be you...

so please stop taking it like oh this guys is some sore loser,  no i feel there is a issue on this site and i want others to know





So what are you trying to say here? Since you got not proof that they are cheating although you feel that something is not right? How solid your sentence are? I think this is just matrer of luck when you are trying to bet right now. Sometimes you win and you lose, but overall if you are keep doing it, you will always lose your entire balance for sure. Btw if you notice any bug here and notify ethan, I am sure you will got something good but please give the details to him, so he will fix it right away
1645  Economy / Gambling / Re: Primedice.com | Creators of Dicing 🎲 | 22 Billion Bets | 112+ BTC Jackpot! on: July 07, 2018, 02:46:54 PM
And I think the psychological factor and player's bankroll to stand for a bad streak is also important: a missjudgement like a gamblers fallacy can put you out of the game before you can achieve at least that 1% HE

if you quickly skim through the player's wagered and profit/loss,
the ones that keep it not hidden,you can see that way too many players have loss figures much bigger than the estimated HE of 1%
means that either the strategy is not optimal or the "meaningful" bets went wrong
for example: you can bet a million 1 satoshi bets at 50% chance and then place one 0.01 bet and lose it all
and too many players believe that if they just had ten reds in a row,they simply must win the next one-gambler's fallacy number one
the main  cause of so many tears and scam accusations  Grin
Sounds like they have no bankroll management to be able to make a huge number of bets and had to stop after they catched a negative variance streak. Because the more bets you make, the closer you will come to the 1% HE.

This is true for maybe a bot but humans are crazy unpredictable.

Even if a player plays for a long time and has a HE of 1%, they will most likely switch their bet values around and basically get more larger losses and less small wins.

Basically a good example is someone who is betting like 1 satoshi on 50/50 and they find that luck is on their side, and so the next bet is like 100x larger which results in a loss. So their balance is much smaller but their win/lose streak is still within the house edge.

Yes, somehow how edge is affect your bet result because you run too long bot in which all gambling games is just the same. That is why most of gambler using martingale strategy variances to outcome the result, sometime with a small bet can with some huge multiplier and it depends your luck as well whether you are going to hit or not. But overall if you played too long you will always end up badly
1646  Economy / Gambling / Re: FORTUNEJACK.COM |Deposit 777 play with 1777 mBTC |Live Casino, Slots, Betting on: July 07, 2018, 12:53:20 PM
I recently.. Signed up with FortuneJack. I have tried doing the freeplay and have seen the live version for BlackJack and Baccarat. Anyone from the community who can suggest if it's better to go Live via games or the automated ones?

LIVE!!

play live games if you can the automated ones always leave me feeling cheated however the lives games you can actually watch the shuffle BY HAND!!

Also the ladies are nice some are dull but most are pretty good dealers

Does not really matter anyway, depends on what game you are being played, if you played bacarrat then you wont see they shuffle instead. May be some has shuffle in live mode but some shuffle in the back so yes it will be just the same as well. Just depends on your luck if you are going to some good cash. Although they are not cheating if you are not lucky the result will just be the same
1647  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in - Win free Bitcoins every hour! - $30,000 contest now live! on: July 07, 2018, 06:23:01 AM
@theQuin, for the site improements wetsuit wanted, could you add statistics timeframes for a certain period of time (like: today, this week, this month and all time maybe)? Just so we can see stats based on that period for wagering and lottery tickets etc.

What statistics do you have in mind? If you give me a bit more detail and I'll be happy to ask wetsuit to consider it.

I mean like the current statistics we have already but for a set period of time. As currently my account statistics range from 2015 to now, instead of being able to get monthly/weekly and yearly data on wagering amounts, wagering wins, free rolls, lottery tickets. etc.

I think it is hard for them to inplement this kind of thing, may be they can make it that simple like current wagered or may be lifetime wagered. To ask them get weekly or monthly data on wagering for everyone must be really hard. And btw they already have put lottery tickets weekly so there is no need for that. If you want that so bad, maya be you can ask wetsuit is to send the details towards your email
1648  Economy / Gambling / Re: ▰▰▰ LUCKYGAMES.IO ▰▰▰ ✅ 5 Awesome Games ✅ 61 Cryptocurrencies ✅ Daily Contests on: July 07, 2018, 04:41:33 AM
every dice site i play at had ETH issues past few days.





feels like ETH is becoming like BTC was last year with the overload to blockchain

is not the first time happen with ETH, i hope this solve soon because like some one say, itīs the same as BTC in the past so bigger fees, i dont like it lol

But I do not find any other sites that have this eth problems, may be there is but only some few of it. Is it matter of the site itself? Or is it about the gas thing which is the withdrawal can't be proceed? In current time, of course eth is having this traffic but to become almost like btc traffic may be there will be no option left to increase the fees itselfs but compare to bitcoin, it will be still affordable for very most of us here
1649  Economy / Gambling / Re: 💰LottoBtc.org💰 | The Global Anonymous Lottery | 🎉1000000 FREE ENTRIES PROMO🎉 on: July 07, 2018, 12:19:44 AM
Ok then, it is so clear that you can give the explanation but still wondering why put the rest on your rake address, are you saying that it will not be on the pot? I think with the rest pun on the pot it will go up the last tier easily then you guys will have more spare. If this keep on cycling, then it will be easily for you guys to make some profit too so both player and banker will have some win

I'm not sure i'm fully understanding what you are asking. Are you asking why we need a rake in the first place? At the moment the 5% is helping cover the costs of promotions that we will be doing, website upkeep and development costs, as well as profit. Thats why 5% is taken and sent to the 1RAKE[...] address at the time of each drawing.

Nope, I am not asking how the rake is used, instead I am asking why 5% are not in your balance left, because consider your pot will be empty all the times after players win. But if you put X% on your pot then there is always some balance left. So it will be quick to fulfill the tier as well. Let say if 2.5 btc tier hits them you have 5% left which is around 0.125btc, although there is only little people play on the next block, as players we still can play on 0.125btc tier with, so it will make the site always alive
1650  Economy / Gambling / Re: Script for bustadice.com - Smart autobet script for good profits on: July 04, 2018, 01:31:43 PM
I just checked it out and you say starting balance is 1000 sat - 5000 sat which is you can end up with 0.1 btc? This is too good to be true, it is more than 50k multiplier in just a day and yet you said it is really risky thing to do. Let us cut it into half 0.05 btc per day then in a month you will get 1.5 btc payout. But why you do not start using it yourselves? You can even get more than 0.006btc per day instead of selling the script

Thats why price was changed,  now doing it by my self, it wiill be more safe to keep this from large publics


Yes and I do not understand why suddenly its price is rocketing so high like 0.75 btc from 0.006? There is no way someone will buy this thing. May be if it is stay 0.006 btc, it will be bought by someone juat to try but for 0.75 btc over this script, no one will take it for sure. And you said you will do it by yourselves? What is the guarantee? There is no escrow that you will get us profit
1651  Economy / Gambling / Re: GoUp.bet | Provably Fair Dice | *** 10 LTC Promo Started *** on: July 04, 2018, 11:36:43 AM
Nice gambling competition going there. Might I suggest that also separate prize pools be happening for most wagered, or most % of profit? Not that I've anything against whales but someone with a big bankroll can of course get very high up those leaderboards, while someone with smaller bankrolls might never have a chance, unless you put in some kind of incentive like wagering, or even % (and the prize can adjust to the amount wagered). You want to encourage long term players too, right?

May be you are wrong here, as their competition is profit competition then itis fair to everyone of us. How it can be fair? Like you said big bankroll sure have big amount to play from the start but the chance of losing too, there is two options as well, win big or losing big. Mean while we as small players might be on top 8 too because of luck, this is profit competition then just put some high chance to get the good payout. But when it comes to wagering competition, no matter what you do, you wont be able to beat others thst have bigger bankroll because the chance of losing your money is pretty huge here without considering your luck. So yes, I still prefer this kind of competition
1652  Economy / Gambling / Re: ▰▰▰ LUCKYGAMES.IO ▰▰▰ ✅ 5 Awesome Games ✅ 61 Cryptocurrencies ✅ Daily Contests on: July 04, 2018, 09:46:46 AM
Still no reply.

Why you guys post a tweet about that all stucked ones were resent? That is not fair. Almost been a day and still waiting for my two diff ethereum withdrawals. Just increasing fees shouldn't be that so hard.

I do not think it will work that way, may be it is not just only you who withdraw eth and it is pending due to the network too. By increasing the fee the result will be the same and you should really fix the main problem, by giving the payout just like that will only keep the next one be like this also. So may be I can ask you to wait for a little longer, they do not scam your money,just a little delay payout and thats all you should do
1653  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in - Win free Bitcoins every hour! - $30,000 contest now live! on: July 04, 2018, 04:46:31 AM
@theQuin, for the site improements wetsuit wanted, could you add statistics timeframes for a certain period of time (like: today, this week, this month and all time maybe)? Just so we can see stats based on that period for wagering and lottery tickets etc.

What statistics do you have in mind? If you give me a bit more detail and I'll be happy to ask wetsuit to consider it.

I mean like the current statistics we have already but for a set period of time. As currently my account statistics range from 2015 to now, instead of being able to get monthly/weekly and yearly data on wagering amounts, wagering wins, free rolls, lottery tickets. etc.

I think it is hard for them to inplement this kind of thing, may be they can make it that simple like current wagered or may be lifetime wagered. To ask them get weekly or monthly data on wagering for everyone must be really hard. And btw they already have put lottery tickets weekly so there is no need for that. If you want that so bad, maya be you can ask wetsuit is to send the details towards your email
1654  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: RollBurst.com - Dice Game for Burst Coin with Low House Edge - FAUCET Available on: July 04, 2018, 12:05:38 AM
Thanks for quoting it out which i didnt notice that owner do already mentioned about that they do have the same developer thats why they do have the same design. Im not saying to make the users doubt on the site yet we do only say up on what we have observed but well its clarified now.
How about making different design which would be unique among other? since they do have different owners , having similarities wont really be appealing anytime.

Maybe some changes on the front end to make Burst as a coin easily be noticeable and also maybe make the clicking buttons look different. But we are fussing over very small things just "because". If the site is working good then thats all that should be important.



But no one give them reviews about their game too so we can't assume they have really good game although their site give 0.5% house edge in which the lowest house edge ever compare to other dice site. And btw I checked again their site and it seems the jackpot does not move at all, although some of them already wagering there. Or is it just really slow? Op not yet confirm on how this exactly be calculated
1655  Economy / Gambling / Re: MONEYPOT alternative discussion thread! no posting will be deleted on: July 03, 2018, 03:32:26 PM
it is much easier @Sy namely you can ask Dogedigital if he promised Investors compensations!

I can again post his promise here. or you go over to the Moneypot thread and check @DarkDays last posting

or you go to the scam accusation thread

believe me it would have been much easier for all if Dogedigital would have paid the Investor compensation!

regarding RBIES it was a Scam by Dogedigital and there is no way out. again please check out Dogedigital's and user @moneypot's red trust.

Actually, I do not think that the rbies should be asked again because it wont be paid for sure and I do not even know if there is a real compensation or not towards the investors. But yet until this day, it seems that investors keep quite about it. Do not know what are moneypot team saying to them but they are growing by opening their nessie.io exchanges, I do not know if this helping them to raise their funds but they should coming back or their moneypot will be closed for good
1656  Economy / Gambling / Re: 💰LottoBtc.org💰 | The Global Anonymous Lottery | 🎉1000000 FREE ENTRIES PROMO🎉 on: July 03, 2018, 02:11:29 PM

75% should be consider as second tier which have 0.05-0.25 btc as their payout mean while you said it here that he won 75% and only 0.012 btc as their first prize? I do not understand how do you calculating it so if I may know the details may be it will be good to have. And for second players as well he won it by using free promotions and he only got 75% yet got retaining their 20% prize? Is this how free promotion works?

So if the prize pool at the time of the draw is <0.01 BTC, the 1st place winner gets 95% of the prize pool, if at the time of the draw the prize pool is between 0.01 and 0.1 BTC, first place receives 75% of the prize pool, and second place receives 20%. In both cases, 5% is sent to our rake address


Here you can see a breakdown of the payout structure which is available on our website. This was changed around prior to the first draw after some feedback on this thread.

For draw #002, the prize pool at the time of drawing was 0.012, so first place was sent (0.75*0.012), or 0.009 BTC, and second place received (0.2*0.012), or 0.0024 BTC, the remaining 0.0006 BTC was sent to our rake address.

Does that clear it up, or is there still something I can help with or fix?

Ok then, it is so clear that you can give the explanation but still wondering why put the rest on your rake address, are you saying that it will not be on the pot? I think with the rest pun on the pot it will go up the last tier easily then you guys will have more spare. If this keep on cycling, then it will be easily for you guys to make some profit too so both player and banker will have some win
1657  Economy / Gambling / Re: Script for bustadice.com - Smart autobet script for good profits on: July 03, 2018, 11:19:51 AM
I just checked it out and you say starting balance is 1000 sat - 5000 sat which is you can end up with 0.1 btc? This is too good to be true, it is more than 50k multiplier in just a day and yet you said it is really risky thing to do. Let us cut it into half 0.05 btc per day then in a month you will get 1.5 btc payout. But why you do not start using it yourselves? You can even get more than 0.006btc per day instead of selling the script
1658  Economy / Gambling / Re: New btc roulette - Sport, Dice, Casino - BetKing.io on: July 03, 2018, 05:51:57 AM
Had a lot of requests to bring back our old invest feature to let anyone be part of bankroll.

Anyone here interested?

(does anyone use this forum anymore or should I just stick with Telegram?)




I think they are lacking of bankroll right now and asking for investment. I do not think that betking usually asking for people to invest. Past betking will just rely on everything that they think it is worth to do and in the end they are getting 7.5k btc profit so where is this money gone by now? Why you are asking for some investment? I'm sorry no offense but I think with asking people just like that will ruin your reputation as a big site, you must just let it flow like last time that you did

So it's clear you don't know what you are talking about and just spreading nonsense.

I have been asked by many people, mostly old BetKing investors, to bring back the old invest model where anyone could add to the bankroll.
I've not even decided if we will do it or not as it brings a few problems with the current token system.



Im sorry for this misunderstanding things, my bad for saying such things. I never knew that you guys have been asked for reopened the investment programs instead of using your own bankroll. But it seems that you guys are more focusing on your token program which is spend much of your bankroll and do not know when it will raise, like most of others token that used for gambling on other site. I will watch how this thing is going
1659  Economy / Gambling / Re: 💰LottoBtc.org💰 | The Global Anonymous Lottery | 🎉1000000 FREE ENTRIES PROMO🎉 on: July 03, 2018, 12:08:38 AM
Draw #002 has concluded, and well that was a rollercoaster

With our free entry promotion, someone with the maximum amount of free entries (10000), equivalent to 0.0001 BTC, ended up winning the 1st place of the lottery, taking home 75% of our 0.012 BTC prize pool
2nd place also was won by our free promotion address, so the full 95% was sent back to the 1FREE[...] btc address, and from there the 75% was forwarded to the winner, and the 20% second place  prize was retained by us.



If you want to see the drawing process, check out the DRAW 002 reddit thread

Draw #003 entries are now currently being accepted at https://www.lottobtc.org

75% should be consider as second tier which have 0.05-0.25 btc as their payout mean while you said it here that he won 75% and only 0.012 btc as their first prize? I do not understand how do you calculating it so if I may know the details may be it will be good to have. And for second players as well he won it by using free promotions and he only got 75% yet got retaining their 20% prize? Is this how free promotion works?
1660  Economy / Gambling / Re: Win Bitcoin Playing Racing Game - Bit Playerz!!! $$$ on: July 02, 2018, 12:35:34 PM
Like everyone said, there is no tutorial or anything that show how the game really works because its like 80 90 games like you said so probably most of them(including me) do not know how this game work. You should at least give some explanation about it and about your jackpot, you share it everything on players without having some on the pot to make sure people will get the pot every week.
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