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1501  Economy / Gambling / Re: ▂▃▅▆█ BITSLER █▆▅▃▂🎁NEW UPDATE★★★WORLD CUP PROMO★★★🎁 on: August 18, 2018, 05:02:36 AM

Bitsler has been blocked by most internet providers in our country so that to be able to access bitsler from now on we can use VPN or similar services. So sad with this fact but nothing else we can do!

Once the site has become more popular than many countries start blocking the site particularly who don't allow online gambling sites. In my country earlier Fortunejack, Betking, Primedice and some other sites can access without using VPN  but for quite sometimes I need to use VPN to access these sites because those sites are already blocked. But bitsler is still able to access as of now and maybe later stage here also it may be blocked.

I do not think that you should access those sites by using VPN because I do not want some big site like bitsler going to block you or do not let you to withdraw your money just because of it is being banned from your country later on. For current time may be it is still available but later I hope you this wont become any issues regards your own fault

If I'm not wrong bitselr don't like people cheating their faucet or any kind of cheating. But if one plays with their deposit money and it is not a referral account from same IP address then I don't think it is an issue.

If one thinks using VPN is an issue then they can always use a dedicated proxy to access blocked sites or they can even inform bitsler support team that they are using a proxy before they deposit money to their account to play.

You should do what is neuroticfish suggest, it does not a matter if you are on VPN or bitsler allowed it or not but if you used a VPN, there will be a chance that scammer used the same VPN as you are, but if you understand the risk so you can take it and used it. Still I do not suggest it, because I get this problem last time so I do not want to make the same mistake again

The reason why this is a problem is because too many people use the exact same VPN on the exact same gambling site and it sets off red flags with their security department.

Because at first it looks like 1 user has like 20 accounts, however its actually 20 different people.

The VPN can be risky especially if you use a "free" vpn like the ones that pop up on Google when your search for a free vpn.

They will usually log your info and if there is a way to steal your BTC, they will attempt to do so.

Hence never use one of those free or cheap VPNs.

I do not know how but it seems that my ip pop out to the VPN so I do not think that it counts that I am using VPN, but in the end they just do not have any solution with it, so I am done with their site. I know it is hard to lose something that you do not even use it but this is how things going. Btw let me ask you this, if I am using VPN and make a deposit and wagered I do not think that they are going to ban it right? Or they still wont give out the withdrawal?
1502  Economy / Gambling / Re: SafeDICE.com ★ Bitcoin Dice ★ Monero ★ 0.5% Edge ★ Fast Cashout ★ Since 2014 on: August 18, 2018, 12:17:25 AM
Can anyone help me out please? I had 0.155 btc and i put 0.14 btc to roll on below 79.95 and the page got stuck cause it wasnt rolling and then I changed the bet to 0 and clicked on roll again and it rolled a 20 something which means if the bet went through i would have won but now i have 0.015 btc left. My 0.14 btc bet wasn't registered but was taken out of my account.

I suppose there is no results with it, you should ask them by email, anyway if I am understand this correctly, instead the bet you put is losing, you rolled again the second time, should be won but the amount you put is 0 so the result is winning but there is no payout at all. You should ask admin to look into your 0.14 btc bet, I believe they have the history for the bet and have everything verified too
1503  Economy / Gambling / Re: Primedice.com | Creators of Dicing 🎲 | 22 Billion Bets | 112+ BTC Jackpot! on: August 17, 2018, 04:21:33 AM

Let me ask you this way, so what is the point of having more than 1 account then if they do not have the intention to abuse it? What adaseb saying is true, nowadays people make more account just to abuse the faucet as well, like aiming 9900x and keep doing this forever, if you do not banned this kind of abuser, your site is not going to develop as well

It is normal to have more than 1 account, but max 2 accounts. First account which is the main account is used for betting purpose and the second account is usually being used as "bank" account. Obviously if the main purpose of having multi accounts is to abuse something then it should be banned. But I know there is a dice site that lets you to have multiple accounts as long as the accounts are not self-referred to gain profit from the affiliate program.

I believe if first account is used for betting and second is for abuse faucet, I do not think it is that bad either or may be you can bet some low amount by second account. Untill this day, I have more than 1 account on most of the site here, although it is not often claim the faucet but when I feel that I am going to abuse it then I will go for it but never got banned. And some is self referred too
1504  Economy / Gambling / Re: FORTUNEJACK.COM |Deposit 777 play with 1777 mBTC |Live Casino, Slots, Betting on: August 15, 2018, 04:36:12 PM
FortuneJack
Fj that's great news but to my mind it would be better if you add Poker soon on your website and also make blog about poker, something like poker magazine or in better way (but I don't have this hope) you will be bookmaker too and review football (soccer) games. Many casino already does this thing, your blog is good too but if you prioritize gambling related topics like strategy in poker and etc, this will be amazing.

May be some gambling related post will do because we are in gambling site so we need to know more about these stuffs but to have some strategy spill over from particular site, I do not think that is gonna work. If you notice it, people use let day FJ posted strategy in a game on FJ site thrn it is a loss game, what will the player said to the reviews? And btw in the end all strategy will not work due to the house edge so there is not really needed for that strategy posts. But for gambling related posts, I would like to be part of it for sure
1505  Economy / Gambling / Re: Pornhub Casino now accepting bitcoin and many other cryptocurrency! ph.casino on: August 15, 2018, 02:34:36 PM
Casinos with such requirements aren't even worth taking a look. If you deposit, place a single bet and double your money, you should be able to withdraw your funds. It's your money, they shouldn't force you to play more than you're willing to. As long as you get to the minimum deposit amount, you should be able to withdraw YOUR money.

Also for casinos that requires KYC if someone wins or wants to withdraw: screw them. They should do the KYC before someone deposits.

How are you suppose to double it? May be with some luck you might able to do it but how about if the bet was a losing bet? What are you gonna do? It will be pointless thing to do. But no one going to notice this until they want to withdraw so I think, it is a real trap there, force you to play with your money till you achieve that and often people fail

Anyway on bitcoin world, I do not really think that KYC is needed because this is where anonymous can exist
That's how important reading the rules inside any casino site, knowing the it would give us an option to think twice before using any site and before
depositing our money, this action coming from Pornhub really annoyed gamblers knowing that it's needed to wager that much before you can use
the withdrawal function would not give you any chances, you need to lose or you need a big luck before you can get out.

Actually their rules on ToS can be modified without our notice but if you are pretty much have nothing to do may be you can take screenshot all of their ToS before play but mostly people do not really check into this because they seems it will be useless thing, as long as they can get they their withdrawal then it is a good to go site
1506  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🔥 ERENA ★ Litecoin Crash & PvP Lottery 🔥 24 HOURS LEFT TO BECOME PARTNER on: August 15, 2018, 01:10:18 PM
You said that they are former creator of btcraffle.io but I do not think that this sitr is working well, only work for a while and after that people get bored and try to get a new platform for playing the lottery as well, so what do you do about btcraffle.io site? Is it still active?

I checked last replied is on june which is 2 months ago and there is nothing good there going on
1507  Economy / Gambling / Re: BETKING: What Happened to the 50 BTC Jackpot? Was It Just A Fraud? on: August 15, 2018, 11:52:20 AM
For the jackpot, I believe it is really hard to get those and can be won by anyone easily. I am not defending them too but to get that jackpot you must be really lucky, not to say you hit it once, but you should get the consecutive bets, so you need double lucky here to get that. Anyway for their bankroll, I think they shut it up and never give people saw about that, due to the security or it will conect to the ICO as well?

So that means people throw their money at Betking and other ICOs without accountability?

Look at the mess that MobileGo and countless other ICOs and projects have become because they do not account for where the money has been spent.

If Dean Nolan and Betking claimed more than 500 BTC, more than 2250 ETH and more than 425 LTC were to be used in the bankroll where is the evidence? There is not a single shread of evidence to support the claim made in his whitepaper.

For what I know, investors sure believe them because of what they did on the past. People really get tons of profit from their last investment there so they would think it the same way because they opening an ICO which is lead them to get more of profit if it raises buy they do not have anything much profit to get from those ICO

And btw about the bankroll, I do not really think any site can give you their real amount of their bankroll. It is just their protocol that they must do. Again, I am not defending them, just saying the most reasonable answer here
1508  Economy / Gambling / Re: Tutorial: How to use SeuntjieBot? on: August 15, 2018, 06:25:01 AM
I don't need a strat to get -3 bitcoins in the red, I can do it with my eyes closed
but this is probably not his screenshot either, if he had lost 3 coins,he would probably not bother putting donation addies first place
although... it might make sense,never mind,lol if he has lost everything
in any case,this is as bad marketing for the bot as you can imagine,even if your loss has nothing to do with the bot itself but rather with your strategy /bank management

I think he already saying that he is going to update his strategy by using seuntjie's bot after he regain his profit back. Btw I think he does not really mean that he used the bot and losing 3 btc. He just want to prove that anyone can use the bot as well. May be you are wrong about the marketing as well

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My bad... anyways i will put some pictures later on how will i regain that negative profit, what i mean is the progress of my betting and the strategy i use...

It doesnt mean i lose 3 btc i cannot regain my loss if you will see both pictures there different in such a way on how did i make the bets and script. anyhow what like i said if you need some scripts just tell me your idea, for example.. how to make preroll script after 6 loses in a row you will bet 2x, or how to make a script that if you reach ur betloss limit you will bet all what you lose using higher chance until win. its my bad that i use the -3 btc profit haha...

Actually I do not saying that you can't regain any loss that you made but it just not my type to rely my bets pure on bot. But sometimes I will use it but not every time I bet and for long because the longer bet you made the losing streak you will get. There is really

To think that you use -3 btc, I am sure you are some whale to bet, but if you do not mind sharing it publicaly then go for it. Many people want to try it and may be they will donate some if they gain some profit
1509  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in - Contest with $30,000 in GUARANTEED PRIZES now live! on: August 15, 2018, 12:21:57 AM
Yea, it was strange to see lots of winners with 25k tickets entered into the Lottery this week.  http://prntscr.com/ki367e
indeed, I noticed that too. it seems like an organized bot behavior buying/collecting ~25k tickets
though I'm curious on the method that they use, did they actually make deposit and play multiple btc?
by my calculation, on a 4x reward weekend, each account needs to wager minimum 0.025 BTC
that gives 5k tickets and 20k RP, then convert RP to ticket for total 25k tickets
or spent 25k satoshi to buy tickets? or used RP for lottery ticket boost on claiming free rolls?

I believe it does not really matter on how much tickets that you can get too but as long as you are lucky enough to be part of their winners then so be it. Anyway, I do not think people want to spend their RP for tickets, I do not saying that it is not worth but RP may be is good enough for a solid prize rather than gamble it for the prize which we never know the result
1510  Economy / Gambling / Re: CRYPTLOTTERY - NEW LOTTERY GAME! PROVABLY FAIR AND EASY! on: August 14, 2018, 05:46:14 PM
Already checked the site and it is quite a view you got there and it is may be pretty fair enough because there is a max bet of 2 times, so they can't increase when the times near to the end. But what I wondering, why all the bet is on $? Not based on crypto? While your domain name is crypto, so why dont you change it to bitcoin or may be other altcoin?
1511  Economy / Gambling / Re: Primedice.com | Creators of Dicing 🎲 | 22 Billion Bets | 112+ BTC Jackpot! on: August 14, 2018, 03:55:54 PM
I am pretty sure in the terms its said somewhere "no more than 1 account" most sites have this term even if they don't enforce it.

What is really strange is why create so many alts, and be too lazy to think of nicknames that aren't related to each other.

Most likely this was deliberate. So knows, maybe he has more than 1 PC and is logged in simultaneously so he created all these accounts. One account for his work computer, home computer, mobile, vacation home computer, etc.

Nope, mostly site will never give you more multiple accounts, what I know that the only site that giving 2 account per ip is bitsler but I do not know if they put it on their ToS or not. Anyway I just checked on primedice ToS and here what I found, so I do not think they allow players to have more than 1 accounts. Usually people created many accounts just for abusing the faucet but if the conditions they do not abuse it, I wondered if this is allowed or not

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5.1. PERSONAL USE. The Service is intended solely for the User’s personal use. The User is only allowed to wager for his/her personal entertainment and may not create multiple accounts, including for the purpose of collusion and/or abuse of service

Please do not compare both Casinos (Primedice <-> Bitsler). They differ in so much from both professional sides.
For instance in Primedice you are allowed to have multiple accounts and play with them as long you follow the rules such as Faucet ones:


Where in Bitsler admin is so locked into bots / multiple accounts that you might be scared off in having such multiple ones.
If you didn't knew, Bitsler was DaDice before, same Staff just different Domain. They blow up their DaDice due to possible faucet levels farming and tried to block everyone's withdrawls and eventually busted in so they had to change their Domain / return back after some time like it was a new Casino / staff team (Bitsler)

I am not really sure if you are following from what I said here. I told you bitsler allowed 2 account because that is what I know from playing there a lot, so updates will known. But I seldom played on primedice, only when there is a big event so I do not really know about their terms or anything. But when I checked on their ToS, it does not said that they allowed player to have more than 1 account like most of dice site

True, Bitsler let you create 2 accounts, but not 3: "14.1. Having more than 2 accounts is strictly forbidden(by person/IP/house/family). "
Obviously, I think bitsler or Primedice don't care if for any reason you have 3 accounts in your house, as long as you don't use them for abusing the service.

Let me ask you this way, so what is the point of having more than 1 account then if they do not have the intention to abuse it? What adaseb saying is true, nowadays people make more account just to abuse the faucet as well, like aiming 9900x and keep doing this forever, if you do not banned this kind of abuser, your site is not going to develop as well
1512  Economy / Gambling / Re: Pornhub Casino now accepting bitcoin and many other cryptocurrency! ph.casino on: August 14, 2018, 11:34:31 AM
Casinos with such requirements aren't even worth taking a look. If you deposit, place a single bet and double your money, you should be able to withdraw your funds. It's your money, they shouldn't force you to play more than you're willing to. As long as you get to the minimum deposit amount, you should be able to withdraw YOUR money.

Also for casinos that requires KYC if someone wins or wants to withdraw: screw them. They should do the KYC before someone deposits.

How are you suppose to double it? May be with some luck you might able to do it but how about if the bet was a losing bet? What are you gonna do? It will be pointless thing to do. But no one going to notice this until they want to withdraw so I think, it is a real trap there, force you to play with your money till you achieve that and often people fail

Anyway on bitcoin world, I do not really think that KYC is needed because this is where anonymous can exist
1513  Economy / Gambling / Re: New dApp: lucky9.io Ethereum Lottery on: August 14, 2018, 09:21:18 AM
http://lucky9.io - Ethereum Lottery ÐApp.

Tickets only 0.009 ETH. Every 9th ticket wins 0.03 ETH, every 99th ticket grabs 0.09 ETH and every 999th - up to 3 ETH jackpot.

Enjoy the lottery and let's meet @ http://lucky9.io

Do not undetstand how it really works actually, are you saying that every 9 tickets sold we will get 0.03 eth as our bonus? Or you mean that every 9 tickets sold the prize will be 0.03 eth? And if you do mean like that so how can it be exactly going for 999 tickets sold? And this is absurd to have this kind of lottery. And more, how are you determine the winner by doing this? People might abuse it as well, let say 5 tickets were bought and the rest 4 ticket I buy it for 0.036 eth so I will win 0.03 eth which mean I am still on negative
1514  Economy / Gambling / Re: BETKING: What Happened to the 50 BTC Jackpot? Was It Just A Fraud? on: August 14, 2018, 05:13:11 AM
For the jackpot, I believe it is really hard to get those and can be won by anyone easily. I am not defending them too but to get that jackpot you must be really lucky, not to say you hit it once, but you should get the consecutive bets, so you need double lucky here to get that. Anyway for their bankroll, I think they shut it up and never give people saw about that, due to the security or it will conect to the ICO as well?
1515  Economy / Gambling / Re: Primedice.com | Creators of Dicing 🎲 | 22 Billion Bets | 112+ BTC Jackpot! on: August 13, 2018, 03:41:12 PM
I am pretty sure in the terms its said somewhere "no more than 1 account" most sites have this term even if they don't enforce it.

What is really strange is why create so many alts, and be too lazy to think of nicknames that aren't related to each other.

Most likely this was deliberate. So knows, maybe he has more than 1 PC and is logged in simultaneously so he created all these accounts. One account for his work computer, home computer, mobile, vacation home computer, etc.

Nope, mostly site will never give you more multiple accounts, what I know that the only site that giving 2 account per ip is bitsler but I do not know if they put it on their ToS or not. Anyway I just checked on primedice ToS and here what I found, so I do not think they allow players to have more than 1 accounts. Usually people created many accounts just for abusing the faucet but if the conditions they do not abuse it, I wondered if this is allowed or not

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5.1. PERSONAL USE. The Service is intended solely for the User’s personal use. The User is only allowed to wager for his/her personal entertainment and may not create multiple accounts, including for the purpose of collusion and/or abuse of service

Please do not compare both Casinos (Primedice <-> Bitsler). They differ in so much from both professional sides.
For instance in Primedice you are allowed to have multiple accounts and play with them as long you follow the rules such as Faucet ones:


Where in Bitsler admin is so locked into bots / multiple accounts that you might be scared off in having such multiple ones.
If you didn't knew, Bitsler was DaDice before, same Staff just different Domain. They blow up their DaDice due to possible faucet levels farming and tried to block everyone's withdrawls and eventually busted in so they had to change their Domain / return back after some time like it was a new Casino / staff team (Bitsler)

I am not really sure if you are following from what I said here. I told you bitsler allowed 2 account because that is what I know from playing there a lot, so updates will known. But I seldom played on primedice, only when there is a big event so I do not really know about their terms or anything. But when I checked on their ToS, it does not said that they allowed player to have more than 1 account like most of dice site
1516  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Martingale and Roulette on: August 13, 2018, 09:44:41 AM
As I know if you are going to play martingale on roulette, this wont happen because the number you are hunting and the payout you get are not worth, if you said about dice or other game may be it is possible thing but when it comes to this game what you need to do is luck and try to martingale on zero if you have enough balance. I can't guarantee when it hits but somehow I found out that it is able to martingale from there and it is worth enough

I don't think you know what you're talking about. Have you ever played roulette yourself?

You can martingale on red/black, odd/even, manque/passe (high/low) which all give x2 payout. And you can even choose 18 numbers yourself and double your bet on loss (that's what martingale is). There are plenty of possibilities to martingale on roulette, you can even choose less numbers to make the payout higher. I've even seen people being lucky with martingale with bets on first, second or third dozen. That's the same as doing martingale on x3 payout on dice. Of course roulette has a higher House Edge, so it's more risky than dice, but the good part of roulette is that you can choose your own lucky numbers.

And why would you suggest people to martingale on zero? I mean, zero gives the same payout as any other single number, which on European Roulette is x36. And how exactly would you suggest them to martingale on a single number? I mean, how much should the player raise in %? And how would he be able to do that? Or are you suggesting people to double their bets on loss while they hunt a x36 payout? That's kinda stupid, isn't it?

Of course I played but not something like red and black things, I played mostly European roulette when I always bet on single numbers but of course you really need to have some balance to cover your bet. This is gambling, so you will never know when you are going to hit that aingle number or even zero at that time

Let say you get your money there and place on X number and martingale it, double on loss when you hit the number the payout is really good. And when you lose it, just get away from it and do not continue to martingale it. Usually I use martingale strategy up to 8 times or sometimes lower than that depends on your balance as well. Btw are you even betting there with your bankroll? I think this isnpretty common strategy to bet on roulette
1517  Economy / Gambling / Re: BetKing.io Is it a blatant scam? on: August 13, 2018, 05:06:12 AM
Looks like Dean is actually putting some work into his site now. I think this push has actually done some good for the investors.

 Grin

Ever since some of us started to address his failures towards the investors he started to get more active. Adding more "prizes" to games will not save Dean Nolan or his Betking website.

If he wants success first of all he should apologise to investors for the nonsense token system he used to get investors into the ICO and currently still sells those same useless and worthless tokens to gullible users.

After that he should allow independent audits of all his accounts so those that consider Dean Nolan is a scammer and a fraud can be shown the proof.


Actually, is an apology really accepted here when money involved? I do not think apology is needed, but a compensation might work. I do think betking is really a good site as well but never know that they really have some problem with their token. I am watching this thread for months yet there is nothing good on their token, thry should really work this out unless they still have some ace under their sleeves
1518  Economy / Gambling / Re: Blockchain Poker - Play Poker with Bitcoin (for free) on: August 13, 2018, 12:19:47 AM
I don't understand how this is 'anonymous' in any way?

In the poker world, most sites that deal with real money (>90%) require you to sign up with identifying information (even if it's just an email, which is pretty rare to see). In addition to not requiring any of that, we do also allow you to change your name if you don't want other players tracking you.

So you are saying we do not need any email to play on your site? I just played there any saw there is nothing like email required and there is only password, but how about if we forget password, is there a way to retrieve it back without using email? And btw I saw there is only small blind there, so there is no way players will attract to this, are you going to put higher stake?
1519  Economy / Gambling / Re: Tutorial: How to use SeuntjieBot? on: August 12, 2018, 02:17:43 PM
I don't need a strat to get -3 bitcoins in the red, I can do it with my eyes closed
but this is probably not his screenshot either, if he had lost 3 coins,he would probably not bother putting donation addies first place
although... it might make sense,never mind,lol if he has lost everything
in any case,this is as bad marketing for the bot as you can imagine,even if your loss has nothing to do with the bot itself but rather with your strategy /bank management

I think he already saying that he is going to update his strategy by using seuntjie's bot after he regain his profit back. Btw I think he does not really mean that he used the bot and losing 3 btc. He just want to prove that anyone can use the bot as well. May be you are wrong about the marketing as well

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My bad... anyways i will put some pictures later on how will i regain that negative profit, what i mean is the progress of my betting and the strategy i use...
1520  Economy / Gambling / Re: Primedice.com | Creators of Dicing 🎲 | 22 Billion Bets | 112+ BTC Jackpot! on: August 12, 2018, 11:28:06 AM
I am pretty sure in the terms its said somewhere "no more than 1 account" most sites have this term even if they don't enforce it.

What is really strange is why create so many alts, and be too lazy to think of nicknames that aren't related to each other.

Most likely this was deliberate. So knows, maybe he has more than 1 PC and is logged in simultaneously so he created all these accounts. One account for his work computer, home computer, mobile, vacation home computer, etc.

Nope, mostly site will never give you more multiple accounts, what I know that the only site that giving 2 account per ip is bitsler but I do not know if they put it on their ToS or not. Anyway I just checked on primedice ToS and here what I found, so I do not think they allow players to have more than 1 accounts. Usually people created many accounts just for abusing the faucet but if the conditions they do not abuse it, I wondered if this is allowed or not

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5.1. PERSONAL USE. The Service is intended solely for the User’s personal use. The User is only allowed to wager for his/her personal entertainment and may not create multiple accounts, including for the purpose of collusion and/or abuse of service
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