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901  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: - This system USED to be controlled by the public network. - on: June 10, 2011, 02:40:52 AM
If hypothetically Apple integrated a client into their latest phone, people would use it.
902  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Would you follow BTC's to the underground? on: June 10, 2011, 02:33:49 AM
I think it would be really cool to have underground, illegal crypto-currency. A small part of me wants it to become illegal for this purpose. I'd feel like I'm in the Matrix. I think in that case I would take my old Matrix posters from my parent's house and bring them to my apartment.
903  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: if i was ati or nvidia on: June 10, 2011, 02:27:24 AM
His point is that nvidia or ati would inject a lot of money to stimulate demand for their products. By my calculations based on Mtgox's pending asks's (using my own Python script), $171,129 spent on Bitcoins would shoot the price up to $49/bitcoin. If this creates enough additional demand for $171k of graphics cards then it pays off for them.
904  Economy / Economics / Re: Accidental Currency Destruction Issues and Bitcoin Banks and fatal flaws on: June 10, 2011, 01:56:39 AM
This is more serious than gold falling off of Spanish Galleons! Oh dear.
905  Economy / Economics / Re: When will bitcoin go to 400? on: June 10, 2011, 01:24:02 AM
I would LOVE to have underground illegal crypt-currency. That would literally make my life. That would just seal the deal with my persona, might as well boot right into the MAtrix.
906  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Keiser Report: "this is the biggest story of this decade" on: June 10, 2011, 01:11:46 AM
It'll be even less anonymous when parents start naming kids after bitcoin addresses (easy way to rack up donations throughout life).
907  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: One pixel of this image is Mtgox's turnover rate compared to the world's on: June 10, 2011, 01:00:19 AM
Yeah boats are cool. The point of this image is to show that Bitcoin is still in its infancy and has a ton of room to grow.
908  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / One pixel of this image is Mtgox's turnover rate compared to the world's on: June 10, 2011, 12:46:18 AM
Referring to this image here, which is 3.5MP.

http://a.img-dpreview.com/reviews/fujis1pro/Samples/Resolution/000805-1152-05-3mp.jpg


Some stats:

Daily world turnover (source: Wikipedia):                              $3.98 trillion
Daily turnover rate on Mt. Gox (30 day average BTC, * 28.5):  $1.15 million

Pretty cool imo.
909  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: the end is near.... on: June 09, 2011, 11:32:33 PM
1. Make bit coins illegal. Price plummets

3. Buy tons of bitcoins through sites that don't listen

3. Make bitcoins legal.

4. Profit.
910  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin: The rise or fall? on: June 09, 2011, 11:27:03 PM
Obama will make it rise fast, don't you worry about that.
911  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Poll: Best Portfolio of Bitcoin and Metals on: June 09, 2011, 11:07:20 PM
Metals will be worthless when we start mining asteroids. Bitcoin could still be around (not with the exact same protocol of course).
912  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Gold Priced in BTC on: June 09, 2011, 10:34:26 PM
Australian gold is cheap though.
913  Economy / Economics / Post an image of your prediction of the future, let's see who comes closest on: June 09, 2011, 10:17:10 PM
Here is mine:

https://i.imgur.com/qRHJi.jpg

I'm really curious to see what you all come up with.
914  Economy / Economics / Re: When will bitcoin go to 400? on: June 09, 2011, 09:51:14 PM
October or November. Historically Bitcoins have doubled in value every 30-32 days, if my math is correct.

That was before the government caught wind of it. Now that they have and now that more people know about it, prices will go up faster but also cause more heat from the government.

There was always anticipation of government action, and yet the prices still managed to climb this quickly. In fact this latest 3x spike happened after government officials started talking to reporters about it negatively.
915  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: First experience - Disappointed with something on: June 09, 2011, 09:49:14 PM
Yes, let's criticize people heavily who point out legitimate issues.  Roll Eyes
916  Economy / Economics / Re: When will bitcoin go to 400? on: June 09, 2011, 09:38:06 PM
October or November. Historically Bitcoins have doubled in value every 30-32 days, if my math is correct.
917  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: My reasons for buying Bitcoins on: June 09, 2011, 01:58:55 PM
The only thing stopping me from doing the same is the fear of government action. In the past few days that's all I read in articles "Government crackdown on Bitcoin". I know they can't stop it but they sure as hell can make it illegal and IMO worth less for the short term.

It's possible but I don't think it is as likely as people think, or at least won't come any time soon.
918  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / My reasons for buying Bitcoins on: June 09, 2011, 01:39:27 PM
Alright, so these are my reasons for converting dollars to Bitcoins. These are my own reasons, not copied from any website, but gained from a few months of observation. I've already bought a bunch recently but plan on buying some more.

I am pretty sure that Bitcoins are currently undervalued.

The user interfaces, guides on how to use Bitcoins, and such are terrible. People should never see a hash or know what it is. This can all be fixed in the future with trusted web interfaces. (key is trusted). Bitcoins can eventually be stored securely online without ever downloading a client, without risk of accidentally deleting your Bitcoins, and without a need to back them up. Bitcoins currently are ANTI user friendly. You nearly have to be a software engineer to understand wtf is going on.

It's hard to buy Bitcoins. You have to know what to do, or figure it out, which isn't easy. This will be made easier. It takes a while to even transfer money to do it. This makes the price lag behind demand some, probably.

There is a max exchange amount per day per account on the main trading site where 95-98% of trading occurs (max rate is $1000 per day, $10000 max per month I believe). So I think from this the price different than actual demand, since the two can't reach an equilibrium as quickly.

Bitcoins used to look like some geeky programming project just because they're cool, and people like to code for no pay, and then trade essentially monopoly money with eachother and rave about how cool their Bitcoins are. However, now Bitcoins are just starting to break into mainstream. There have been dozens of News articles about them in the last week. These news articles have been primarily negative about Bitcoins, because people are stupid in my opinion, but nonetheless they are being discussed.

People are overly paranoid about the government shutting down Bitcoins. I agree it is possible, but I rate it on a far less likely scale than most people. Also even if they are banned here, they could be adopted in other countries. Internet traffic isn't solely contained within the U.S. The price would drop but it could increase again.

Bitcoins, now that they are entering the mainstream, are possibly on the cusp of becoming a global currency. It's possible that the value could soar even higher. I think people are starting to see this and it's why the price rose 3x within the last month ($9 per Bitcoin to $31).

The dollar itself is kind of risky, and buying Bitcoins is a form of diversification, although they are much more volatile than the dollar of course.

Nobody has found a flaw in the Bitcoin protocol or network yet, out of thousands of hacker types of people who love cryptocurrency and are closely following Bitcoin. Furthermore, the network has never come close to being shut down or not enduring the strain. I don't think the network will ever fail for this reason. I think it is very scalable.

Bitcoins have risen so far by 2^8.5 from the value in September and October, on a relatively consistent basis (by my own calculations which might be wrong). The max possible they can rise is an additional 2^20, roughly, which is if they completely take over the world economy. Even if it increases just by 2^3 from where it is now I will make plenty of money.

Most people don't understand much about Bitcoins and think it is just about drug money since this is what they read on all these news articles. The website selling drugs has already been closed to the public.

Paradigm shifts are becoming increasingly more common (notable technological changes follow a logarithmic scale. Think of how years progress in the game Civilization). For example phones to smart phones, wireless connectivity, 3g now, Pads, 3D, 64GB microSD cards, streaming HQ online video, etc. within the last few years. Worldwide internet traffic is still increasing exponentially and is expected to continue.

So these are my reasons for converting a small minority (5-10%) of my savings to Bitcoins. You can disagree, but so far I have been right, since they've increase 2x-3x since I originally planned on converting. Obviously I can't see into the future, so maybe I am wrong and it's a bubble that will imminently collapse. That is why it is 5-10%. They are incredibly volatile so it is a risky thing to do.

I am not posting this as a debate, and although criticism is ok I am not looking to validate any of these points. I'm not trying to proselytize .
919  Economy / Economics / Re: I want you to have a look at this graph on: June 09, 2011, 06:10:02 AM
I think you guys might be underestimating the demand for Bitcoins. It doesn't necessarily have to match difficulty if the demand is great enough. Then again, you could be right.
920  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: We just hit $30 on: June 09, 2011, 05:51:37 AM
Sorry, I trolled, it will actually happen at 3:30PM like Freaken said. Sorry again guys.  Undecided
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