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941  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: September 17, 2023, 09:59:12 PM
Real Madrid started the match with shock by conceding a goal in the first minutes. They already have a lot of missing players, Vinicious is injured and Arda Güler is having a goalkeeper problem. But I can still say that they gave a good response. Real Sociedad tried to score the second goal, they did not wait for the goal they scored, but they could not do it. It's been a dangerous day for Real Madrid, they definitely need a key center forward in the interim transfer window. Even though they don't have key strikers, they play a quality game. They just need to transfer a good centre-forward in the interim period.
You're right. It was quite surprising that Real Madrid was conceded goal in minute 5'. At the moment, I think Real Madrid will get defeated by Real Sociedad. But Real Madrid could come back, they made 2 goals in minute 46' and 60'. I am happy that Joselu made a score again, it proves that he deserves to be the main striker of Real Madrid during this season.

Well. Vinicius and Arda Guler got injured for some weeks, Real Madrid needs to change the formation. But I think the new formation looks quite effective. Today, Real Madrid proved it again that they could win the match although some key players are absent (Courtois, Militao, Vinicius).

Anyway, I think Ancelotti needs to consider signing a player who can play as the right and left winger. They need a substituted winger to be the option if Vinicius or Rodrygo can't play. It is also important besides the urgent of a new top striker.

942  Economy / Speculation / Re: The time has finally come...??? on: September 15, 2023, 08:41:58 PM
Before I joined bitcointalk I never expected bitcoin price to reach hundreds thousands in the years of 2023 but when I looked at the market I was comfortable that before bitcoin price will reach hundreds thousands at least more two years will be added in 2023, so for my reasoning, I'm saying that price of bitcoin reaching hundreds thousands, it's encouraging and good for investors but what I'm considering is that it will not be this year because the market is still not balanced because of the way it move, and expecting bitcoin to increase, its something that will happen between 2024 and 2025
What makes it different before and after you join bitcointalk? Do you view the price progress differently after you join this forum?  Huh

To reach $100k in 2023 is clearly impossible, we almost reached the end of this year. Even if Bitcoin really can reach $100k, surely it should be in 2024-2025. I'm sure investors never expect that price this year, they must predict it for the next 1-2 years. We all know that 2023 is still in the bearish season, bullrun season probably happens after BTC halving in 2024. Commonly, the maximum price of BTC (ATH) will happen in the few months or 1 year after the BTC halving.

943  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trading not for everyone! on: September 15, 2023, 07:56:01 PM
It is a risky job if you treat it as your main job. There are real life traders and they know that doing this as their main source is hard.
But with experience that they've gathered all over these years, the risk seems to be cute to them anymore because of that built up that they've gone through.
There is no job has no risk. If trading is a risky job, it doesn't mean people can't make it as a main job. However, no guarantee for the success everyday in trading. We may get profits today but we may experience loses tomorrow or in another day. So, we can't expect to always earning money everyday. Even professional traders or experienced traders, may experience losses as well. That's why we can't make it as our single job because no guarantee for profits constantly.

I agree that for newbies, it's best for them to stay as holder first before they commit into a real life day trader. They also have an option to remain investors and holders.
There is no problem if newbies want to try trading, but they are better to use small money. Newbies must focus on learning first before they use bigger funds. Not all newbies want to hold crypto coins only, some of them want to trade the coins. However, I agree that knowledge and experience are needed to ensure the newbies to trade in the right way. So, before starting the trading journey, the newbies must have enough knowledge and experience firstly.

944  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Bitcoin and get rich quick syndrome on: September 15, 2023, 07:40:47 PM
This gonna be a huge trigger, especially when you see on social media like instagram or tiktok that you can live a life like on the paradise and still young with pile of money and chicks everywhere
True. Everyone wants to live with lots of money because they can do anything. When seeing people succeed with their investment can live as rich people, anyone must be triggered to follow the success. Moreover, crypto investment is easy to do, it is not as complicated as other type of investments. People just need to buy crypto coins in exchanges, then they only need to hold the coins for certain time of period. But people sometimes are not aware that crypto investment has a high risk. It has high volatility and the fluctuates of the coin prices are difficult to predict.

It's sad but true, quick money is more attractive to people than long term investments, and that's why they get scammed easily,~
People always want to experience a success instantly. They don't want to wait for a long time because they want enjoy the success soon. Unfortunately, there is no instant success, it always takes time and serious efforts. Crypto projects that offer the investors to be rich instantly, most of them are scams. We know that there is no guarantee for profits in crypto investment. Even it is Bitcoin investment, the success of this investment will still depend on the holders/investors.

945  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: September 15, 2023, 07:27:36 PM
Are you watching top standings Bundesliga teams between Bayern vs Leverkusen? seems excited until 30th minutes both teams have scored one goal each other.  Bayern Munich lead awhile trough Harry Kane goal and Leverkusen success make it draw after Alex Grimaldo goals in 24th minutes. Current statistic, Bayern Munich managed controlling ball possession and they have created many attempt than Leverkusen. I don't think with this excited match will ended two goals, both teams have chance for scoring goal again due more minutes left exactly on second half.
Yep. The match is very tight but Bayern Munich still dominated the match. Each team scored 1 goal so far, Kane scored in minute 7' and Grimaldo scored in minute 24'. Actually, Bayern Munich already made some chances to score more goals but it still failed to add more goals. Leverkusen played quite defensive, it make Bayern Munich a bit difficult to make another goal. However, I'm sure Bayern Munich will play more offensive in the second half and score more goals.

Favorite with Leverkusen will win in this match and looking for Bundesliga is not dominance by Bayern Munich only for this season after success dominating more than 12 years..
Why Leverkusen is the favorite team to win? If we consider the squad quality, Bayern Munich is clearly more superior than Leverkusen. Also, Bayern Munich played better in the first half, they dominated and controlled the match. I'm pretty sure that Bayern Munich will win the match, they will score more goals in the second half.

946  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Saudi Professional League 2023/2024 on: September 15, 2023, 07:10:50 PM
Neymar was injured when he joined Al Hilal and many people blamed Al Hilal for it but we saw in the last games from Neymar he had for his national team he had a good performance and he even scored two goals in the friendly match to show he is back in shape. I think he is ready enough for the game against Al Riyadh and that's why there is a high chance for Al Hilal in this match in which Neymar is playing in Al Hilal for the first time.
People blame Al Hilal signing Neymar? Why?
Neymar is a great player although he often gets injured. But when he has a chance to play, he always shows his quality. I think playing in SPL will be easier for Neymar, he may have a chance to maintain his fitness. I'm sure Al Hilal will give him a special treatment to keep his good fitness.

In the match against Al Riyadh, Neymar didn't play as a starter because it may be too risky for him. He just recovered from his long injured and he just played for his national team. He needs time to take a rest and watch Al Riyadh's tactic. So, when he played in the second half, it will be very effective for him. I'm sure Neymar will start his debut in this match.


947  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: September 15, 2023, 06:56:53 PM
I don't think that Erling Haaland will be released by Manchester City and then join Real Madrid, and most likely now it is Mbappe who will join Real Madrid. There is another option besides Mbappe, and that is Napoli's goal-hungry striker Victor Osimhen.

Mbappe himself is still at Paris Saint Germain now, and with his strong desire to leave this team it is speculated that he might join Real Madrid next season. That's not the only thing that makes this speculation strong, because Real Madrid itself has been pursuing Mbappe for several seasons to become one of their players. It was not achieved in the previous season, although in fact they were one step away from signing a contract, but Mbappe preferred Paris Saint Germain.
Agree. Erling Haaland has a long duration for his contract with Man City, it lasts until 2027. There is no rumor that he feels uncomfortable in Man City. And his price must be above €200m if there is a club interested in signing him. I guess it may be €250m at least, Man City probably won't sell him below that price. It is a fantastic price that even Real Madrid may think many times to sign Haaland. Another reason is Guardiola won't agree to sell him because Haaland fits with his tactics. It won't be easy to find his replacemenet, Haaland is surely a perfect striker. He has great skills, good in physical, and has winning mentality.

I think Mbappe is the most possible striker to join Real Madrid. They already got a personal agreement with Mbappe. Real Madrid only need to wait for the end of Mbappe's contract with PSG. I'm sure Mbappe won't extend his contract, he already stated that he want to move when his contract expires next year. While for Osimhen, I don't know how big the chance to sign him. Real Madrid may be interested in him but the price looks to be the obstacle to sign him.

948  Local / Trading dan Spekulasi / Re: Menghindari Kesalahan Ketika Mengikuti Hype Yang Sedang Terjadi on: September 15, 2023, 07:20:57 AM
Hal ini jadi salah satu faktor yang membuat beberapa trader terjebak. Ane pernah follow yang beginian, si developer berupaya keras untuk membujuk trader untuk membeli coin mereka walau dari segi fundamental tidak ada, tapi kalau kita lihat roadmap mereka, sepertinya memang benar-benar prospek. Entah bagaimana mensiasatinya, kadang ada yang bener dan tidak, biasanya janji-janji mereka ini manis banget di depan, tetapi setelah banyak yang beli, mereka kadang acuh tak acuh.
Begitulah developer shitcoin, ketika masa fundraising atau public sale, mereka sangat serius marketingnya. Bahkan ada yang sampe hire publik figur atau artis sebagai ambassador demi untuk meyakinkan investor. Selain itu, roadmap dibuat semenarik mungkin. Plus mereka rajin update perkembangan proyek supaya investor semakin percaya masa depan proyeknya. Sayangnya setelah listing di exchange, biasanya mereka mulai pasif, bahkan jarang update terkait perkembangan proyek. Sekalipun banyak respon dari investor, mereka menjadi acuh tak acuh seperti yang agan sampaikan di atas. Jika ada proyek yang model begini, besar kemungkinan suram masa depannya.

Di Indonesia model proyek seperti ini biasa terjadi. Kita kenal beberapa di antaranya bahkan proyek crypto yang digarap artis. Lebih miris lagi ada yang artisnya sampe melibatkan hampir semua anggota keluarganya untuk proyek tersebut. Ujung-ujungnya proyeknya sama seperti proyek lainnya, tidak jelas perkembangannya.

949  Local / Trading dan Spekulasi / Re: TRADER bukanlah PENGANGGURAN on: September 14, 2023, 05:55:10 PM
Memang pandangan masyarakat pastinya bermacam macam kepada seorang Trader yang kerja di dalam rumah yaitu ada yang Menganggap positif dan ada yang tidak.
Dalam hal apapun, pasti ada yang memandang positif dan ada yang memandang negatif. Terkait profesi sebagai trader, mereka yang paham dunia trading tentu mereka akan memandangnya positif dan mengapresiasi usaha kita. Tapi mereka yang tidak tau dunia trading, bisa saja memandangnya negatif karena ketidaktahuan mereka.

Dan jujur saya juga suka trading tapi saya selalu trading di crypto walaupun masih tahap belajar dan Alhamdulillah selalu menghasilkan keuntungan ya lumayan buat kebutuhan hidup, tapi memang selalu ada orang yang menghina saya kalau saya hanyalah seorang pengangguran tapi saya hanya bisa tersenyum mendengar orang berkata begitu, karena menurut saya kita jangan terlalu memikirkan orang lain,
Hal yang luar biasa jika selalu take profit meskipun masih ditahap belajar. Saya saja yang sudah trading dari 2018, masih mengalami lose karena banyak faktor. BTW mengenai statemen orang lain, lebih baik diabaikan saja jika hal tersebut tidak terlalu mengganggu. Memikirkan hinaan orang lain tidak ada gunanya, yang ada hanya menurunkan semangat kita. Lebih baik memikirkan hal lain yang jauh lebih penting.


950  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: September 14, 2023, 05:41:48 PM
The circulating rumor suggests that Chelsea is keen on acquiring Oshimen.
Is acquiring Oshimen the right move? Are there other aspects beyond the attacking line that are influencing Chelsea's current performance?
If Chelsea really can sign Oshimen, it should be a great solution. Chelsea has no strong striker, they got difficulty in scoring goals. Osimhen is a machine goal of Napoli, he already proved that he is one of the most productive striker in the world.

However, I still doubt that Osimhen really wants to join Chelsea. There is no something interesting in Chelsea, it is not a strong team anymore. Chelsea squad looks difficult to win any title, they only struggle to return to the top 5 of EPL standings. I'm sure it is not enough for a top striker like Osimhen, he must prefer to join a club that has a high chance to win prestigious titles.

951  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: September 14, 2023, 05:10:40 PM
It will be difficult for Juventus to sell Pogba because many clubs already know about rumors of Pogba using doping, but it has not been confirmed positive, however, when Pogba joined Juventus he was often caught in a number of problems, especially at that time he suffered an injury which caused him to miss several important matches. Pogba is currently experiencing bad luck and if at this time he is really positive for doping he will be threatened with a 4 year suspension and that is quite a long time considering that Pogba is currently 30 years old, I cannot confirm whether his contract with Juventus will be terminated or stop Playing football
If Pogba has been confirmed positive, Juventus will easily sell him if there is a worthy offer for him. Juventus must consider to sell him because they can earn some money. If Juventus fired him, Juventus will get nothing. I'm very sure that Juventus won't have the intention to keep a player who has a problem with doping. Moreover, Pogba is getting often to get injured, he only sat on the bench. So, there is no advantage for Juventus to keep him on the squad.

By the way, it is still a rumor, there is no official statement from the club about this. There is still no confirmation whether Pogba used doping positively. So, we are better to wait for the further news.  Wink

952  Economy / Economics / Re: Stable coin or having USD in bank on: September 14, 2023, 05:03:15 PM
If bitcoin price have increased, I can decide to convert some to USD or stable coin. Which one is better? Or is there other alternative which can be comparable with bitcoin in a way it would be independent and having full control characteristic.
Do you want to take profits?
I think it is not the best time to sell Bitcoin. Why don't wait for 1-2 years, the bullrun season is coming.
TBH, even if Bitcoin price increases quite significant, I won't convert my Bitcoin to any coin or dollars. I prefer to hold longer time, 1-2 years.

Anyway, when I need to convert my Bitcoin, I think it is better to convert it to dollars or my national currency (Rupiah). I can't use Bitcoin for any transactions in my country, that's why I need to convert it. I think convert it to stable coins won't be a good idea. Stable coins can drop its price, it is not totally stable in price. Even you know that the price can free fall if there is something wrong with the coin in the future.

953  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Should I invest in new projects. on: September 14, 2023, 04:28:23 PM
anyone here heard about the DingDang Bubble project it is upcoming meme coin i read this project and it looks interesting because they are offering utilities that no other meme coin have also the project and team looks solid and most of the utilities they claim will be live before launch but still i am afraid of losing money .....
This is the real point. If you still feel scared and worried about losing money on the project, then it's better to stay away. because after all, you are not ready in many ways to invest in the project.
You may not really understand what the project is like, and what its potential will be. However, if you look at various previous meme coin projects, I am sure that this cycle will be the same, namely ending in dead coins. Meme coins are still often a hype project that makes many people join in the FOMO. But in the end, most of them always regret losing their money.

Although it cannot be denied that perhaps some others can really make a lot of money from meme coins, because they really understand when is the right time to enter and also when to exit. Not only that, they usually already understand the hype cycle of meme coins like this, and even where and when they might be listed so they can consider the pluses and minuses before buying tokens. but here, the position is that you don't really understand about this project. So, I think you don't need to spend money on this new project, because it could endanger your money later.  
954  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: September 14, 2023, 03:52:04 PM
Yes, in the whole of La Liga, Real Madrid's has a formidable midfield. Knowing that  Mbappe is most likely going to be part of the squad next year makes it even better. If Madrid gets another young top striker, they will have a core of young players for the coming 5-7 years they win at least 1-2 UCL. However, for this season, I do not want to get my hopes too high for the team. I will be ecstatic if they win the La Liga and also one domestic title.
Of course, Real Madrid has many strong young midfielders. They also have young wingers. If they can sign Mbappe, they will also have a young striker. But they only have Éder Militão and Fran García as the young defenders. However, Real Madrid most key players are young players, it really guarantees for the future of Real Madrid squad. It is true that Real Madrid squad will be safe for more than 5 years. Ancelotti really builds Real Madrid squad for a long term target. We must appreciate what Ancelotti has done!

Sure, for this season, Real Madrid has no strong striker. So, many people don't want to expect much. However, I'm sure Real Madrid still has a good chance to win La Liga trophy at least. For the UCL trophy, Real Madrid probably targets it in the next season.

955  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: September 14, 2023, 03:36:05 PM
Newcastle is not the top team in the Champions League this season even if they have managed to prove that this team has developed quite rapidly under the tutelage of coach Eddie Howe. It is clear that Newcastle will be underestimated considering that the team they will face in the group stage is a better team than them. We know the quality of Milan, PSG and Dortmund, so there Newcastle will not have many chances.
Indeed. Newcastle has no experience in UCL, they are also not strong enough if we compare to other teams in group F. AC Milan, PSG, and Dortmund are clearly stronger but it doesn't mean Newcastle has no chance to qualify to the next round. I'm sure all the teams in group F won't underestimate Newcastle, they know Newcastle has improved very well. Although Newcastle has no top defenders but they have strong midfielders and attackers. If they can play as a solid team, I personally think they can finish in the second place in the group stage.

Newcastle's first match in the Champions League this season was against Milan. The probabilities of the two teams are different and Milan has more probabilities to win the match. Milan, which managed to reach the semi-finals last season, will make a better effort this season, especially because they have good self-confidence thanks to their current performance.
Playing against AC Milan, it is very obvious that AC Milan is superior. I'm not sure if Newcastle will have a good chance to win it. But I think it is not impossible if they can get a draw result for the first match. It will be quite surprised if Newcastle can steal 1 point against AC Milan.

956  Local / Trading dan Spekulasi / Re: Menghindari Kesalahan Ketika Mengikuti Hype Yang Sedang Terjadi on: September 13, 2023, 09:59:07 PM
Iya benar om, Investasi itu pada sesuatu yang punya fondamental yang jelas jangan ikut coin yang di pengaruhi oleh  hype. Memang ada sebagian orang mendapatkan keuntungan dari hype, tapi kita harus pinter mencari momen, jangan masuk saat orang lain sudah stop. Karena memang benar koin yang dipengaruhi oleh hype biasanya tidak bertahan lama. Kalau berinvestasi pada coin tidak punya fondamental yang kuat itu bukan investasi, tapi kita sedang judi.

Untuk menghindarinya, seharusnya yang pertama itu jangan pernah berinvestasi pada coin yang belum kita pelajari secara mendalam terlebih dahulu apalagi fondamentalnya tidak bagus. Banyak orang mengalami kerugian karena mereka asal saat berinvestasi hanya mengikuti arus hype, hanya karena nafsu besar, tanpa mau belajar mendalam terlebih duhulu.
Ikut investasi di koin hype tidak masalah, asal koinnya juga punya fundamental yang bagus. Yang salah jika koinnya hanya mengandalkan hype seperti meme coin, tidak ada hal lain yang bisa mendukung perkembangan koinnya ke depannya.

Butuh pengalaman untuk paham kapan entry yang pas pada koin hype, tidak mudah menganalisanya. Hype bisa berakhir kapan saja, tidak ada patokan pasti kapan waktu terbaik untuk entry. Beda hal dengan koin fundamental pada umumnya yang akan terus hype selama fundamentalnya ada perkembangan. Rata-rata koin hype, berhenti hypenya setelah listing di exchange.

Yang bikin orang gampang mengikuti koin hype yaitu iming-iming dari developernya. Orang-orang kadang paham bahwa koin tersebut tidak punya fundamental kuat, tapi tetap dibeli karena developernya punya rencana menarik (seperti listing di top exchange, partnership dengan top project, dll).

957  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin in your country. on: September 13, 2023, 09:48:17 PM
In my country, Indonesia. Bitcoin is only permitted as a commodity asset and may not be used as a means of payment. Making payments and purchases other than using fiat currency called Rupiah or Indonesian Rupiah or abbreviated as RP or IDR is strictly prohibited as regulated by legal provisions.
Yep, Bitcoin is only allowed to use as a digital asset, it can't be used as a digital currency. In Indonesia, Rupiah is the only legal currency, we even can't use other currencies. So, the government doesn't prohibit Bitcoin only, but all foreign currencies are prohibited from being used as a means of direct payment. We must convert the foreign currencies to Rupiah on the banks, we must change Bitcoin to Rupiah on our local exchanges.

The laws stated a legal currency in Indonesia: https://www.bi.go.id/id/tentang-bi/profil/uu-bi/UndangUndang%20BI/Konsolidasi-UU-No.7-Tahun-2011-Mata%20Uang.pdf

958  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: September 12, 2023, 09:59:15 PM
From Mbappe's response first his mind is made up. He will not extend his contract and he will leave PSG. I think that he has fallen out of love with the club. Maybe if Messi and Neymar were still in the team, that would have served as some persuasion for him to extend his contract but with the look of things he is going to leave.
So far, Mbappe still doesn't extend his contract with PSG, he also stated to leave PSG to Real Madrid when his contract expires. Sure, there is no other top players in PSG who can motivate him to stay longer. Based on these reasons, it is clear that Mbappe has no intention to extend his contract with PSG. But we don't know what to happen in the next few months. We need to wait for 1 year until the end of Mbappe's contract. During that period, it is not impossible if Mbappe can change his mind.

Real Madrid will eventually get him. Are prepared and ready to receive him whenever he wants of course within the time stipulated for it.
Real Madrid is rumored that they got a personal agreement with Mbappe. But it doesn't mean they officially signed Mbappe. We still can't claim Real Madrid gets him as long as it isn't official. However, I also expect that Mbappe really moves to Real Madrid next year.

959  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: September 12, 2023, 09:56:21 PM
Manchester City doesn't have any big problems without De Bruyne in my opinion. Their performance is still on the right track even though De Bruyne's creativity is expected. Manchester City is the team that has managed to take all the points from its first 4 matches this season, which no other team has so far in the Premier League.

I don't think they will have any serious problems in the next match against West Ham either. Pep Guardiola has good players in his squad and it is unlikely he will have many problems while De Bruyne is injured. Bernardo, Foden, Kovacic and several other players can be relied on, but Pep Guardiola seems to have a different approach for his team even in Grealish's absence.
They still don't have a problem because they still don't play against strong teams. They may get difficulty when they play against strong team like Arsenal, Tottenham, or Man United. I think it is possible, just look at their productivity of goals without De Bruyne, it is quite decreasing. Especially when they played against Newcastle, they even only could make 4 shots on target.

Among the players of Man City, only Bernardo Silva deserves to replace De Bruyne. Bernardo Silva has the same position as De Bruyne, he is an attacking midfielder. While Alvarez, Foden, Kovacic, or Grealish aren't an attacking midfielder. They may can't play effectively if Man City play against a strong opponent.
960  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: September 12, 2023, 09:45:41 PM
5 years at Real Madrid with 52 times played made 6 goals. Certainly not very good statistics. But with not too many minutes played it's not a bad record. He didn't have much playing time. Going to Sevilla is a good decision. If he gets a lot of minutes and makes a good record, Real Madrid will regret letting him go.
Do you mean the stats of Mariano Diaz?
Indeed, it is not an impressive stats. Joining Real Madrid for 5 years but he only scored 6 goals, it is a bad stats for sure. I still remembered that Mariano Diaz is expected to be the successor of CR7, but he played worse day by day. It was actually unexpected to see the career of this player going worse. Sure, it is the right decision to join Sevilla, he may get more time to play. I think Real Madrid will never regret him, Real Madrid has many new players who have better potential to grow.  Wink

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