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941  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: [Edukasi] Seed Storage - Tempat Penyimpanan Mnemonic Phrase on: July 01, 2023, 09:43:43 PM
Sama seperti keluarga saya, gak ada yang faham dan ngerti soal crypto atau bahkan pekerjaan saya sekarang.
Istri sayapun juga gak faham tentang apa itu Hardware Wallet dan bagaimana menggunakannya.

Tapi saya coba perlahan untuk mengajarinya bagaimana cara menggunakannya, minimal bisa mengakses asset saya.
Saya juga sudah mempersiapkan catatan untuk semua akses yang dibutuhkan.

Segalanya memang harus di persiapkan, agar asset tetap bisa di akses jika terjadi sesuatu hal yang tidak di inginkan.
Sehingga asset yang ada di wallet pribadi atau di beberapa Exchange kita bisa di manfaatkan dengan baik.
Jika kita memilih istri atau keluarga utama lainnya yang sudah mampu mengaplikasikan komputer/pc sudah selayaknya untuk mengajari cara penggunaan hardware wallet, karena memahaminya secara komplek sampai menarik idr ke rekening akan memerlukan waktu yang lumayan lama jadi lebih baik mengajarinya secara perlahan tahap demi tahap supaya mudah dimengerti.

Kesulitan utama mungkin pada cara penggunaan awal cara mengakses hardwallet wallet dan cara menstransfernya tapi ketika dana sudah masuk exchange mungkin akan lebih mudah dipahami bagi pemula karena tinggal menukarkan ke idr kemudian menarik dana ke rekening.


942  Economy / Gambling / Re: Without money, does it still qualify as gambling? on: July 01, 2023, 08:47:58 PM
It is really just that there are people who does really love on asking out on something that they do already know. In general then if you arent risking something even not on fiat or physical money form
then it wont really be a gamble. You would really be gambling on something which you do see that you could really be able to benefit into it and this is the time we would really be risking on something
whether it would really be completely lost or would really be getting on the thing that you do want but everything would really be depending or basing up on your luck.
I think everyone doesn't ask something they know unless they haven't found the right answer to that question or the question is multi-definition according to their own perspective. He cites the key word "betting" so one has doubts about whether betting without money is also gambling but the definition of gambling is clear that without betting money or anything physical it is not gambling.

I have never registered on the site that the OP shared, but I have reviewed that predictor game betting for entertainment purposes and competitive win game based on luck, other options can be utilized to get high winnings up to 1 million naira without betting money and we can try to hunt for luck.
943  Economy / Gambling / Re: is KYC data on Gambling sites safe? on: July 01, 2023, 07:47:41 PM
If you are willing to take part or i mean if you are willing to provide your data better to deal with it with a established and trusted casino, they might be more care about it as they know that it was the business that in stake if ever that a date breach will happen, they will be more on the security side and they have that good allocated budget for that to the point that they will provide additional layers for any possible attack, layer that will guard those data no assurance but additional security will give some breath for the business.
Established and trusted gambling platforms may have layers of tight security to protect user identity data (KYC) but don't forget that our KYC remains open internally on that platform, we cannot be sure that an established gambling platform can operate forever without the popularity and rating of the gambling community, because gambling platform competition can change the rating position and popularity so that the previous established gambling platform is no longer attractive to its users and then the platform disappears, we may not have reached that condition yet, but what do you think about the KYC data security guarantee if the previous top gambling platform has closed due to losing to business competition and the gambling community already have other gambling platform options?
944  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The Relationship between social media and Bitcoin on: July 01, 2023, 07:15:32 PM
It is undeniable that the internet has really helped bitcoin adoption. Bitcoin has no central authority and there is no fund being channeled for bitcoin promotion from anywhere, so the promotion of bitcoin lies in the hands of everyone. Bitcoin gains nice publicity in the internet during every bull run. This is the time that everyone and including newbies hear the testimonials of bitcoin and run into the bitcoin market.
We can conclude that social media interaction about bitcoin increases during the bullrun season because all eyes pay attention to the significant increase in the price of bitcoin, but some people like bitcoin because they understand the advantages of bitcoin and increase knowledge of crypto fundamentals without being affected by the bullrun season, so we must be enthusiastic about spreading bitcoin promotions to various social media to expand the connected crypto network to everyone in the world.

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But one funny thing is that many newbies at this period of time jump into the bitcoin market to buy the high, by the end of the cycle, bitcoin will dump on them and they will lose money.
Some beginners are interested in testimonials from other people's portfolio profits without wanting to learn market analysis knowledge to buy BTC at low prices, the determination of beginners wants to get the same profit as pro traders but they don't know the strategy to buy at low prices and also don't know the high risks of investing in bitcoin
945  Local / Trading dan Spekulasi / Re: Mentalitas yang kuat juga diperlukan dalam trading jangka panjang on: July 01, 2023, 06:42:36 PM
Dapat tidak poin yang saya jabarkan? saya mengerti kalau kita harus selalu update terkait portfolio kripto kita khususnya pada altcoins yang dimana news akan kita dapatkan secara berkala, baik itu news yang sifatnya teknis atau non-teknis, tapi, kalau mengacu kepada konsistensi, poin terakhir dari OP itu tidak bisa diselaraskan dengan 3 poin sebelumnya.
Saya telah meninjau kembali keterkaitan 3 poin dengan poin keempat serta menghubungkan dengan apa yang agan jabarkan diatas, sebenarnya kita bisa memiliki pandangan yang berbeda jika memahami poin terakhir berdasarkan pengalaman masing-masing, tapi jika dikatakan mental dapat melemah jika tidak beita bagus tentang pasar maka keluar dari mentalitas yang kuat untuk trading jangka panjang tapi jika yang dimaksud poin keempat seperti post saya sebelumnya bahwa diperlukan update news untuk faktor pendukung analisis pasar maka masih sinkron dengan 3 poin sebelumnya.

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Sorry to say ya om, kalau sekedar teori saja apa yang om bilang memang betul, tapi, fakta lapangannya tidak bisa begitu, saya punya banyak pengalaman pahit saat mencoba hold tapi karena disenggol sama news, akhirnya saya tidak bisa memaksimalkan profit saya dan terpaksa TP di harga yang tidak semestinya.
Terkadang kita tidak perlu terburu-buru menilai suatu news yang berdampak memicu munculnya kepanikan sehingga mengubah keputusan awal untuk hold jangka panjang tapi malah TP disebabkan tidak siap menerima isu negatif yang berdampak sementara, tapi saya harus mengakui beberapa tipikal trader lebih cenderung mengabaikan news karena mudah terpengaruh yang bisa mengakibatkan merasa tidak nyaman dengan aset mereka pada portofolio, apalagi kalau profitnya menurun atau bahkan mengalami kerugian. Setelah saya perhatikan beberapa temen trader yang memiliki tipikal yang sama lebih cenderung tidak mencapai profit yang maksimal karena selain mudah terpengaruh dari news dan tidak siap untuk hold jangka panjang.
946  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Have you, or would you ever use a Bitcoin ATM? on: July 01, 2023, 05:55:38 PM
I am pretty sure that most (if not all) of the BATMs that are buy only, they still are accepting cash.. that is their main value proposition.  If you are using credit/debit card to buy bitcoin, then you would not need cash for that, but surely those kinds of machines would seem to be way less useful.. and so why not just have an App for that?  In other words, the physical presence of a machine seems to be useful for dealing with cash whether they have both buying and selling of bitcoin or if they ONLY have buying.
The physical functionality of the BATM machine for priority making cash deposits to buy bitcoin and cash withdrawals according to the calculation of bitcoin market prices, the use of BATM machines is related to cash so that BATM requires the availability of cash from deposits or cash withdrawals to users. I have reviewed several videos in countries that already operate BATM, so the function is not much different from ATMs from conventional banks, but the advantages of BATM are high security to protect user data, anonymity and accessibility which are easy to access for using BATM throughout the city.
947  Local / Trading dan Spekulasi / Re: Menghindari Kesalahan Ketika Mengikuti Hype Yang Sedang Terjadi on: June 30, 2023, 11:59:21 PM
Ya, itu adalah risiko dari ikut membeli token meme, karena siapa pun akan mendapatkan hasil yang berbeda. tergantung kapan kita entry dan seberapa antusias pasar terhadap meme tersebut dan yang pasti, mencari proyek dengan holder kurang dari 500 selalu menjadi incaran biasanya, karena memiliki kesempatan untuk ikut kereta "jika" meme tersebut pump.
Proyek yang memiliki holder dibawah 500 biasanya masih proyek tergolong baru tapi meninjau koin dari jumlah holder juga tidak efektif karena untuk mengincar proyek meme yang potensial untuk keuntungan jangka pendek berdasarkan hype yang sudah tersebar dimana-dimana terutama di grup telegram komunitas kripto global, namun perlu jadi catatan penting bahwa setiap koin yang berkembang dari hype memiliki resiko tinggi jika tidak segera take profit saat harga diatas 30-50% karena proyek itu saat rentang berpengaruh dari kondisi pasar BTC, jika kondisi pasar BTC seperti kemarin minus -5% maka rate koin yang hype bisa jatuh pada harga semula bahkan turun lebih rendah, jadi proyek yang hype dikategorikan proyek pump dan dump karena proyek tidak layak untuk investasi jangka panjang.
948  Local / Trading dan Spekulasi / Re: Mentalitas yang kuat juga diperlukan dalam trading jangka panjang on: June 30, 2023, 11:51:15 PM
Poin ini bertabrakan dengan 3 poin sebelumnya, jika memang om @Arenga pinnata memiliki rencana jangka panjang, sudah seharusnya om menjauhkan segala hal yang berkaitan dengan aset dalam rencana om. Jika om masih terus menyentuh tentang perkembangannya, tentu itu akan membuat niat om goyah (seperti pada studi kasus yang om jabarkan sebelumnya).

Saya sedikit ingin bercerita, dahulu, saya sempat memiliki rencana jangka panjang untuk salah satu major altcoin, tidak hanya saya, bahkan teman saya juga ikut entry di situ, tapi karena saya memiliki tekad untuk setidaknya menahan sampai 1 kuartal, saya sampai bilang ke teman saya jangan bercerita tentang aset itu dan jangan beritahu update apapun ketika kami berjumpa (karena kami sering hangout di kafe).
Sebenarnya poin itu tidak berkaitan dengan hal lain karena selalu mengupdate pasar juga perlu untuk faktor pendukung dalam analisis pasar atau bahkan untuk meningkatkan aset investasi agan saat harga pasar menurun signifikan, apalagi lagi agan memegang altcoin tentu poin ketiga ini harus diprioritaskan untuk menghindari hal yang tidak di inginkan, misalnya saja agan memegang FTX atau Luna yang juga merupakan altcoin top jika mengabaikan update perkembangan informasi tentang koin itu tentu mengalami kerugian besar tanpa harapan dapat merecovery aset dengan cara apapun dari kedua koin itu, kecuali agan memegang BTC mungkin sebagian investor tidak memantau rutin perkembangan pasar untuk menjaga mentalitas biar tidak terpengaruh dengan dampak penurunan sesaat akibat pemberitaan negatif terhadap pasar, disisi lain memegang BTC lebih jaminan dapat merecovery aset saat pasar kembali meningkat tetapi kalau altcoin tentu tidak jaminan mengikuti pola pergerakan pasar BTC dan bahkan pengaruh lain dari internal proyek dapat menjatuhkan harga lebih rendah, jadi poin ketiga itu menurut saya juga penting terutama jika agan memegang altcoin untuk tujuan hold jangka panjang.
949  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Tentang Konten Berkualitas on: June 30, 2023, 11:32:31 PM
Saya sudah mencoba beberapa tools deteksi teks hasil generate dari chatGPT, sayangnya sebagian tools menunjukkan informasi yang salah. Saya membuat artikel dengan bahasa yang umum, dan ini dari pemikiran saya sendiri, namun mungkin karena frasenya merupakan frase yang umum, jadi tools tersebut menganggap artikel saya sebagian dari generate chatGPT. Padahal, artikel tersebut saya buat pada tahun 2017  Cheesy

Mungkin, kita masih perlu mencari tools yang dapat mendeteksi secara akurat, mengingat ini adalah teknologi baru, jadi wajar kalau kita menemukan frase umum yang dianggap hasil generate.
Beberapa tools deteksi teks GPT saat ini belum dikembangkan secara maksimal sehingga ada beberapa kata dari pengguna frase umum dicurigai sebagai teks hasil yang di generate atau bisa juga dikatakan hasil plagiat dari teks yang digenarate chatgpt, jadi kalau posting hasil pemikiran sendiri kemungkinan tidak ditemukan teks yang digenarate ataupun kalau ditemukan rentang dibawah 5% akibat pengguna frase yang umum.

Penggunaan chatgpt sudah layaknya dihindari karena tujuan meningkatkan kualitas postingan bukan sekedar menulis panjang lebar tanpa mengerti maksud dari apa yang kita posting dalam thread, tapi kita sebisa mungkin meningkatkan pengetahuan dan membagikan pengalaman kepada siapapun sehingga menghasilkan postingan orisinalitas yang bermanfaat bagi orang lain dengan tata penulisan yang mudah dimengerti dan mudah dipahami
950  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: I lost my bitcoin on: June 30, 2023, 11:15:17 PM
Just as @Lucius said, it's obvious for sure that OP is yet to wake up from his deep sleep in realizing that his money is way gone. He's should be grateful that his  credulity didn't cost him a huge sum, for there are some persons that lost thousands of dollars to scammer but later moved on with their life so OP should follow suit and stop this 3years of ranting.
He has returned with the same character for the past 3 years, his actions indicate he does not accept being scammed $ 56 because he did not consider the risk if buying bitcoins not on an exchange and p2p. Maybe $56 is not a high amount that is hard to forget but he calculated $56 bitcoin equivalent at 2010 price so you try to do whatever you can to get that balance but sadly there is no solution to this problem but trust me your scammed money stays $56 forever and you must accept the risk of loss, make the experience valuable to avoid the same loss in the future.
951  Economy / Economics / Re: Should I Use Emergency funds or Sell my Assets ? on: June 29, 2023, 11:39:59 PM
Don't sell anything from your assets as this will help you to survive, instead get some portion of your emergency funds. Might this is not good advice but I was thinking that our assets would be our sources of income and once we cut them or sell them, it means that we are cutting one of the resources which in fact, we need to multiply them.
I can guess that the OP's financial condition is very urgent, he must determine which one of the funds must be used both from emergency funds and asset investments, the right advice for him is to use emergency funds instead of selling assets because assets become resources that can improve finances in the future. We don't know how inflation will affect his country but he must reduce high spending until economic conditions have recovered from the impact of inflation.

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I've got also to that point and I think deeply and talk with some friends. You can also do this and then decide what is best for you.
We can discuss this issue with some friends but I think they will give the same advice for using an emergency fund when the effects of inflation are crazy, unless your friend is a company owner or entrepreneur can offer you a job to cover your current financial crisis.
952  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Investing doesn't guarantee you to be rich on: June 29, 2023, 11:12:17 PM
Analytical ability and patience in holding bitcoins is a way where we can be on a path that will make us financially healthy. In theory, maybe something like this looks easy, because we only need to buy and hold. However, in reality it is not as easy as we imagine, especially when the market is bathing in blood which sometimes makes many people panic and in the end they decide to sell it.
If someone already has market analysis skills then they already understand that the fluctuating market does not have stable prices and they already understand the risks, so there are only 2 ways to take action, buying and holding all the time until it reaches your dream target price.

If we have arranged financial allocations for long-term bitcoin investment, then we don't need to think about the short-term market impact like a price drop of 15k ago, we even have to increase investment at the lowest price from the reserve fund. I believe that many people have the opportunity to become rich from investing in Bitcoin if they are sure of long-term investment decisions.
953  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Who Buys Bitcoin When The Price is 100k$? on: June 29, 2023, 10:51:04 PM
I think I can relate to what you  mean, because years back when the price was low as 10k people were skeptical as they are now in buying when the price actually reach 30k or even 20k but look at where we are today people are still buying even when the price finally reached 30k so like you said same feat will happen when the price climbs to 100k maybe by that time people will guessing to see the price climb to 150k so buying at 100k will be a normal thing then.
Bitcoin has one market price so traders/investors have no other choice but to buy bitcoins at 100k because the price speculation is expected to be much higher above 150k in the next few years. However, we should have a DCA strategy to invest increasing the portfolio since the current price, do market analysis to overcome the skeptics because some speculations say if the price has reached above $ 30k then the chances of reaching ATH are high within this year.

Even though we discussed the price of 100k has never been reached in the history of the highest Bitcoin price, but believe me the price of $ 100k is getting closer because 100k can be reached at any time without us anyone being able to predict it, so don't want to buy Bitcoin at 100k then make sure you have lots of Bitcoin in your portfolio.
954  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Would you dare to pawn your bitcoin? on: June 28, 2023, 07:16:03 PM
If it is Bitcoin, they will feel more risk and value your bitcoin like -30% or -40% from market price. It is understandable as your loan can last one month or six months and many things can happen in this market after a few months.
We don't know the details of the collateral value of bitcoin assets from the deposit regulations, but very worried that they determine the lowest market value of bitcoin from $ 15k-30k maybe they set a value of 23k-25k as the collateral value of bitcoin or it could be lower than -40% of the market price.

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Just selling bitcoin when you need cash, even with loss if you don't have other ways to have cash without loans at pawshops.

It raises an old reminder that you will always need to have cash to use and for emergency. If you have a reserved cash, you will not have to sell your bitcoin at lost price when you need cash. Don't use all cash you have to invest in anything as you will need cash some days.
We must determine financial management to avoid dealing with loans in pawnshops, because all financial aspects have been planned and have been arranged to need funds at any time without interfering with bitcoin investment, I personally determine 30% for long-term crypto investments, other allocations for emergency savings and gold investments , I will take advantage of both aspects if I need high funds for urgent needs without borrowing funds from a pawnshop.
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956  Economy / Economics / Re: Corruption Should Be Taught From Young Age on: June 28, 2023, 05:59:53 PM
I prefer the government to issue strict laws against corruptors, only the government system can eradicate corruption.
Every country has strict laws to eradicate corruption but the implementation factor of the corruption eradication agency is not handled optimally even corrupt suspects have been on the run for almost 3 years, they claim to have tracked down and identified their hiding area but were not arrested for various reasons, even the last statement was that Covid conditions cannot catch corruptors hiding in other countries, but now the case has been abandoned because the corrupt factor is part of the government party.

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It's useless to educate students from an early age to stay away from corruption when they are entrusted with certain positions, especially in government divisions, the system that applies in government is not free from bribery.
So I agree with you, how to educate students from an early age to avoid corruption but they show unfair punishments against corruptors from part of the government party, but corruptors from ordinary people are immediately dealt with more quickly and punished severely. If we want the next generation to be free of corruption, then clean up all corruptors with fair law without considering the status of any officials.
957  Economy / Economics / Re: How we survive food shortages on: June 28, 2023, 05:26:24 PM
Then it looks that there is no food shortage, but the problem is in poverty and food availability. Every time I visit market and food stores, I see no food shortages there. Shelves are always full with food. I only observe different food range and availability, but this is mainly due to increased delivery cost. I cant say there is no food shortage, there is always an alternative. Maybe we had a period when we have problem with amount of food we get in shops, but imho that was caused due to covid and restrictions on working places. Fewer workers, decreased production. Now we are facing consequences of it and will be having them for few years. Imho in few years everything gonna get normalized or balanced as it was in past.
You are right, the current food availability tends to decrease due to the influence of the climate during the dry season, the government's alternative option is to provide imported food on the market for a higher price range because local farmers have decreased food production and agricultural base areas are also experiencing a food crisis. After post-covid, the availability of food has not recovered optimally and local farmers have only experienced abundant harvests for only a year, but in the last year many farmers have suffered losses due to the influence of the dry season, we hope that the dry season will end soon and food availability will soon increase. I am worried that if food prices are not resolved immediately due to the lack of local food availability it will trigger an increase in the prices of other basic goods. I hope the government has the right solution to address the food problem.
958  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: increased Youtube Gambling ads? on: June 25, 2023, 07:09:41 PM
I think you will also get gambling ads wherever you are when using free applications because you yourself always gamble or bet through sites that you open and cookies will always read whatever you browse except when you visit gambling sites or about gambling using pseudonyms so you don't there are cookies that are read on your smartphone.
I don't know specifically the algorithm used in recommending YouTube ads to users, maybe the influence of the gambling application has been installed on the smartphone, cookies, browsing history may be related to the suggested ads, I have the experience of often watching videos of catching fake trading robots and I often get ads related to trading bots, so the solution is clearing cookies, browsing history or replacing the account with a new email if you feel you have been disturbed by suggested ads, they may design algorithms related to keywords and interactions from users to display ads according to advertiser targets.
959  Economy / Economics / Re: Financial education or 1million dollars on: June 25, 2023, 05:55:25 PM
Without financial education, you will not be able to create wealth. So you need financial education for you to be able to invest and make a profit. I accept your decision to avoid luxury because it can lead to a waste of funds. I also think  I will take the $ 1 million but I will not make use of it until I have acquired enough knowledge about the area I want to invest in. And after the education, I will not invest all the funds because I can lose all. I will invest some part of the money and check if the business is lucrative or not. After some time I will have to decide to continue or to move to another business. But by all means this money must be invested and not wasted.
I like your wise answer because you are very careful to handle your finances because you don't use $1 million without the support of financial management knowledge, but money from lotteries or inheritance from parents is mostly used for greed purposes because you don't get that money from work hard, maybe only some people really use those funds for better financial management, they have a business plan to increase finances and some will allocate for crypto investment in the long term.

An important factor is that financial management knowledge is needed to grow economic factors, without any financial management they only have the skills to spend 1 million dollars without thinking about opportunities to create new businesses and invest in gold, property or crypto for the purpose of achieving better finances.
960  Local / Ekonomi, Politik, dan Budaya / Re: [Diskusi] Legalisasi Perjudian (dengan Poll) on: June 25, 2023, 05:26:46 PM
Jika saya bercerita sedikit tentang legalisasi perjudian di indonesia pernah dilakukan oleh gubernur Jakarta (Ali Sadikin) kala itu melegalkan perjudian untuk mendongkrak pendapatan daerah. Karena dirasa pada saat itu APBD Jakarta masih kurang sehingga melegalkan praktik perjudian dan terbukti mampu mendongkrak pendapatan daerah Jakarta sehingga dapat melakukan pembangunan.
Berkaca dari cerita tersebut jika legalisasi perjudian ini dilakukan selain dapat menambah pendapatan suatu daerah juga dapat meminimalisir kasus penipuan dalam praktik perjudian.

Namun jika merujuk pada Pasal 303 KUHP dan Pasal 303 ayat 1 KUHP, yang menyatakan bahwa tindakan perjudian merupakan tindakan yang dilarang. Hukum pidana tersebut mencakup pelaku judi, mengadakan judi, mendukung perjudian, juga menjadikan judi sebagai mata pencaharian.
Dalam peraturan tersebut tidak ada ruang sama sekali untuk suatu daerah ataupun masyarakat melakukan segala praktik perjudian. Tetapi tidak bisa pungkiri praktik perjudian ini banyak sekali peminatnya meskipun itu adalah tindakan yang ilegal.
Saya tidak habis pikir bagaimana kegiatan perjudian yang sudah jelas haram dari sisi agama dan bahkan negara juga melarangnya tapi sebagian orang masih memikirkan peluang peningkatan pendapatan APBD daerah dari perjudian, apakah mereka tidak peduli dengan dampak perjudian yang membuat kecanduan hingga melakukan tindakan kriminal bahkan memicu meningkatkan peningkatan kemiskinan.

Saya telah meninjau daerah yang sebelumnya tidak ada kegiatan perjudian tapi begitu tren domino mobile semua kalangan muda sudah terjerumus dalam hal tersebut, semua uang hasil kerja harian digunakan untuk membeli koin perjudian dan menurut laporan tingginya kasus perampokkan pada daerah tersebut, di sisi lain ada laporan sekitar 2 rb kasus penceraian dalam satu kabupaten dimana diantaranya hampir 90% akibat suami tidak menanggung kewajiban untuk menafkahkan istri akibat depo ke perjudian, jadi masihkah layak legalisasi perjudian di indonesia menurut agan, jika iya mengapa tidak untuk narkotika karena berpeluang juga meningkatkan APBD jauh lebih tinggi meskipun sama-sama sudah dilarang di undang-undang.
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