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941  Economy / Speculation / Re: Confirmed Bad News Sources Thread - No FUD, Just Facts!!!1 on: January 26, 2014, 06:31:33 PM
A very good confirmed source, here.  Everyone should read this and internalize it. 
942  Economy / Speculation / Re: The correction and recovery in a nutshell. on: January 26, 2014, 06:30:27 PM
Very good analysis Mat, I'd like to voice my speculation on WHO the manipulators are and WHY they act as they do.

First off WHO, the simple answer is 'deeper pocketed versions of the same zealots who have been railing against you in this thread', I know this seams almost anti-climactic doesn't it.  You normally think of manipulation as being done by people who are fundamentally different from the 'small fry' both in the depth of their pockets AND a more 'predatory' nature.  We don't expect manipulators to be delusional zealots but in BTC I think they are.  First off we know for sure the big holders of BTC are early adopters who drank the kool-aid very early, these folks have now accumulated sums of USD in the several million range (all still on exchanges mind you) and they thus have leverage on both sides to control the price.  'New' investors might come in with huge sums of USD but they can never match the BTC holdings of the early adopters so they can't do the kind of narrow-holding range manipulation your seeing, they can only cause a price spike as China effectively did when it entered the market.

And the WHY should be evident from some of the posts earlier, the manipulators feel they are 'saving' BTC from the evil forces of the Persian Army  THIS IS BITCOIN!!!  HODL!!!!!  This meme is very telling, we see that people equate the price of BTC with the success of BTC, this view is reinforced by the detractors that call BTC a bubble.  If the supporters 'HODL' the price up high enough then they are 'right' about BTC and everyone else is wrong, and most importantly their Libertarian wold-view is right and everyone else is wrong.  And these people see libertarian/Austrian economic theory as something that needs to be promoted and defended at any cost.  All of this is to ultimately as you said yourself fell that this is the "result of something inherently great about themselves", an ego trip that completely validates their political beliefs and ideologies.

Now what dose this mean for the long run price, are they preparing to crash the market some day and leave the rest of us holding the bag.  NO!!  These people will WILLINGLY go down with the ship if BTC ever finally tanks, nigh they would flaunt their martyrdom saying they 'lost everything because they had FAITH and held to the end, if only the wretched weak-handed fools had not crashed the price of BTC we could have defeated the evil gobermint and the FED and the USD and ushered in a libertarian Ann Randtopia!!!  The know that a fast-crash attempt to empty the exchanges and exist with the USD will net at most a ~40 million in exchange CREDITS which have very little chance of actually being redeemed for real USD at that scale, indeed most of the credits are on Gox which may not even be solvent and which will de-facto force them to put thouse credits back into the market, so for the whales BTC is like a tuna-net in the ocean, they can swim around and seem liquid but are really quite constrained, they realized their BTC AND exchange-credit wealth is illiquid and they like it that way, weakness should be PUNISHED not rewarded after-all (I wouldn't be the least surprised if their are intentional retaliations against anyone who breaks ranks and tries to cash-out).  So they are happy to just get a trickle of USD as they so very slowly sell, it's still enough for them to practically live off and it's more then they deserve anyways so why not keep this whole BTC thing going as long as possible, when it looks like 'stability' is what is needed then they create stability until it looks like another crop of new adopters is ready to be lured in, to them BTC is like that Spartan army doing a simple 'charge', 'fallback (as little as possible) and 'hold' pattern, claiming 'ground' is the goal and ground is measured in exchange rates.

The question is now, can they keep this up?  And for how long?  I think it will eventually break them, the waning availability of new suckers, the exodus of China, and the declining profitability of mining hardware which will force more coins to flow into exchanges will exert enough pressure to break out of this ~850 band and bring a correction down to a more sustainable level.  Sustainable here simply meaning how much actual USD per day that libertarians can find out of their own pockets to throw at buying up the ~5k new BTCs per day that come into existence.  This should not be confused with the LONG term sustainability issue which involve a whole slew of legal and economic factors beyond the scope of just throwing USD purchases at BTC.  But for the short and mid term I feel we will see corrections in which small fry run for the doors but whales do not.

I've checked all the sources and this is confirmed.  Additionally, I believe this to be one of the most inspiring market discourses of this decade.  This should be required reading for anyone interested in bitcoin.
943  Economy / Speculation / Re: 2014 Record breaking 30 minute volume to drive Bitcoin from $820 to just $836 on: January 26, 2014, 06:26:44 PM
That's my  point. I don't think they were dumb.They are placing a bet, Sunday night before the NY hearings, market at 820. 

U reckon a huge bet placed, possibly with insider info on how the NY hearings are going to go?

U are making my fingers twitch over the all-in long button here!



Don't fall for these false tricks, Mat.  You have read the news and looked at the technical analysis from the best and most confirmed sources, and it should be clear to you that bitcoin has failed, and that the market will collapse, thus making SHOTRs very wealthy and the only sensible position.  Martingale maxleverage SHOTRs will prevail!
944  Economy / Speculation / Re: Automated posting on: January 26, 2014, 06:24:34 PM

Notice that the price is crashing, based on this analysis, which lines up nicely with other confirmed bad news.  To summarize, all the data is pointing to a continuation of the downtrend, and a strong bullish case is forming for continuing with the maxleverage martingale SHOTR strategy.  Thank you for your help and confirmation, ChartBuddy.  You truly are a buddy.
945  Economy / Speculation / Re: 2014 Record breaking 30 minute volume to drive Bitcoin from $820 to just $836 on: January 26, 2014, 06:22:00 PM
That was a record breaking volume required to devour a massive Ask wall that had accumulated at the $820 range.

I doubt for a second that this surge in volume, 900 BTC worth of it occurring in one fell strike, the majority of the rest of it hitting within two seperate 1 minute candles, was the result of irrepressible mass public appetite for $820 Bitcoin.

I will concede that I don't know what the fuck is happening here but it reeks of fish.

A 1500 strong Ask wall (on Bitstamp) should not be getting devoured in these conditions, with so much uncertainty surrounding Bitcoin just around the corner, but it was. So this is surely a bullish signal? That was around 3 million worth of USD trade done at these prices. That was some serious money getting into the game, wasn't it not?

........Or was it just a syndicate of whales playing pass the parcel with a big bunch of Bitcoins?

I would like to have a track record of the accounts operating on the exchanges during these crucial, crunch, and entirely unexpected and unpredictable turns of trading momentum. I guess this is why this stuff must be made public domain on real exchanges, in order to give market participants a clearer view if what is going on behind the trades.

There are powerful forces at work that are determined to keep Bitcoin upheld during this time and I have decided that it isn't wise to bet against them and am fortunate enough to be getting out almost breaking even in doing so. I won't be betting with them either as they have an 'enemy' in the far east that although perhaps not powerful enough to bring them down completely, is certainly powerful enough to tear lumps out of them.

I used to have an ideological view of Bitcoin and was actually amongst the 'early adopters' or users rather, but unfortunately for me I never held onto any of the hundreds of sub $10 Bitcoins that I have bought in the past and I now view Bitcoin as a nasty pernicious vapour asset that will invariably either be killed off, or end up being cornered and controlled by the usual suspects. Freedom it aint going to be, quite the opposite infact.

Because of the aforementioned 'Yellow Peril' that powerful USD based entities are moving to protect Bitcoin against, I think the wisest thing for any Johnny come lately investor to do is sit back and wait. The whales are making great efforts to hold Bitcoin at this level, but the dragon has not even started to breath its fire down on Bitcoin, yet.



I haven't read all of your words, because you're words are already confirmed and therefore true.  To summarize, I don't know what you're saying, but I do see that as we speak bitcoin is crashing back down.  So, in short, SHOTR!
946  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 26, 2014, 03:39:59 PM
Looks like the crash is starting.
947  Economy / Speculation / Re: Near term price prediction. on: January 26, 2014, 03:36:51 PM


Dad?
948  Economy / Speculation / Re: Mtgox just hit $1037 on: January 26, 2014, 03:25:16 PM
Thank you for the bad news update, but please don't spam the forum with threads devoted merely to the latest price.  Your post should go here.
949  Economy / Speculation / Re: Near term price prediction. on: January 26, 2014, 03:22:49 PM
$828!!! SHORT HARDER

Woo....my stop loss got called at 820 when the whales devoured their own monstrous Ask wall.

That is an 18 *4 Dollar loss for me.

I am so sad.



Wait, why were you not using the the maxleverage martingale strategy?!
950  Economy / Speculation / Re: Confirmed Bad News Sources Thread - No FUD, Just Facts!!!1 on: January 26, 2014, 03:21:40 PM


Confirmed.  This is consistent with the recently confirmed up is down and sideways is down theory.  Therefore, we're heading down.
951  Economy / Speculation / Re: Near term price prediction. on: January 26, 2014, 03:19:25 PM
$828!!! SHORT HARDER

Everyone who doesn't engage in the newly devised SHOTR martingale max leverage strategy will be sorry.  Quote me for truth.

true

Thank you
952  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 26, 2014, 03:17:41 PM
Can anyone explain the $200 difference with Gox?

Market analysis based on Elliot Wave Particle Duality Theory suggests that deltas over 10% typically are indicative of coming market failures.  I'm running calculations now in my Google spreadsheet to confirm.
953  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 26, 2014, 03:13:14 PM
Another chance for newcomers to enter into winning maxleverage SHOTR positions.   
954  Economy / Speculation / Re: Confirmed Bad News Sources Thread - No FUD, Just Facts!!!1 on: January 26, 2014, 03:11:16 PM
Wow, I am so glad about this news, that I just doubled down on my maxleverage martingale shotring strategy.
I think from now on I will perform this strategy also on a daytarding basis, as proudhon so excellently suggested.



Likewise.  I have been martingale maxleveraging by the day now, and I'm fully prepared for my great success.  I'm confident of this due to all the confirmed bad news I have confirmed.
955  Economy / Speculation / Re: Near term price prediction. on: January 26, 2014, 03:10:04 PM
$828!!! SHORT HARDER

Everyone who doesn't engage in the newly devised SHOTR martingale max leverage strategy will be sorry.  Quote me for truth.
956  Economy / Speculation / Re: Near term price prediction. on: January 26, 2014, 02:44:15 PM
My anticipation of that day consumes me with a fervour indescribable to the human mind.

My mind boggles at the potential variance in this textbook sideways channel.

I could be 5% up or 5% down, The possibilities - they are endless! Oh how the adrenaline races.

Unless of course BTC busts all kinds of nuts on your face and takes off again.

Not that it would *ever* do that.

It never does that.

Never.

You are just another clueless dreamer with zero acumen who has seriously lucked out.

Whatever Bitcoin does, you are wealthy beyond your wildest dreams.

All in all, you are one of the very worst people to be giving out advice on how to invest in Bitcoin. Someone entering Bitcoin now, could be looking at a 50% haircut or possibly even more and actually. They could even be looking at a little dip into double figures again. No, don't laugh, I am being serious. If all you avaricious wankers can consider Bitcoin hitting 1 million, I can consider the much greater likiliehood of it dipping under $100 again.

I think Bitcoin is predominantly heading down. Therefore I shall be mostly shorting Bitcoin until there is so much blood and despair around, that it can only be ready to die off altogether, or shoot back up. If I can ride a $30 upswing at some point in between then I will take it. Catching a $30 swing can mean $500 profit to me. Yes Please! £30 down swing is even better, cos I leverage myself out my tits when I short.

Of all the 'drivel' that I have posted, you have chosen this thread, where I called a near term move perfectly*, to take a pop at me. That tells me that you must be feeling stung.

*NB. Nope, I haven't cashed in my short yet, we may head back up to that $815 - £820 where it was proven that there was zero interest, and perhaps the whale-rats will pass some bitcoins about their own wallets at this range to try and encourage sales.....but I don't see it happening. $817 is your new top for now. Now, take note that 817 is lower than 845 which is lower than 850 which is lower than 910 which is lower than 995. In other words interest in buying Bitcoin is falling away short of each previous high point in the price.

WhAt cAn EvEr Be HaPpeNiNg tO bItCoiN?

To be stung, one must expose themselves to the stingers. Keep on showing your leveraged tits! Those juicy melons are prime stinging fodder.

MatTheCat will have the last laugh and you should know this if you've been paying attention to all the confirmed bad news.  SHOTRING is the only workable strategy with bitcoin from here out. 
957  Economy / Speculation / Re: Latest Developments Thread on: January 26, 2014, 02:17:19 PM

Very interesting. And it backs up what any rational person can guess already: that China understands the significance of Bitcoin and will not simply ban it.

That's already been confirmed to be not true.  That new source above is unconfirmed and not bad, therefore not good.
958  Economy / Speculation / Re: Confirmed Bad News Sources Thread - No FUD, Just Facts!!!1 on: January 26, 2014, 02:14:24 PM
More confirmed bad news is coming in here.  Check it often for live updates.  This is some of the worst bad news I've confirmed from verified sources in a long time
959  Economy / Speculation / Re: SHOTRING BITCOIN: This is a good idea right now on: January 26, 2014, 01:59:12 PM
I hope you all shotred Bitcoin as proudhon told you.  Roll Eyes

This is just a small blip, mostly caused by people getting out of MtGox to dump on Stamp and other places.  As I confirmed yesterday, given what we know about confirmed news and MtGox and such, from here out, if the price goes up that's good evidence that the price is going to crash.  And if the price doesn't go up that is also good evidence that the price is going to crash.  Therefore, the only sensible thing to do is SHOTR.

Brothers, increase your SHOTRS!
960  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 25, 2014, 08:25:03 PM
The upward trending channel continues from yesterday, now almost 24 hours old.

This is certainly bearish news as it means that people haven't realized that bitcoin is going to go down, so they're mistakenly buying, which means they will run out of money and won't be able to buy anymore, and that means that it will go down soon as a result.  I've checked a re-checked my analysis and waves and have confirmed that up means down.

Confirm with source, or GTFO.

Confirmed here.

what has that to do with Bitcoin, and yes I do read Arabic Wink

Well, then you should have clearly seen the confirmed Arabic news that demonstrates why if the bitcoin price goes up, then it will crash, and if the bitcoin price doesn't go up, then it will also crash.  This shows, via my source, that the only direction is down.  This has also been confirmed by my custom regression analysis using 4th echelon wave theory backtested to 2003.

There were some good times when you said you'll quit posting ultrabearcrap here....

Well, that was before I started reading all the confirmed news in languages I can't read.
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