And you might as well be satisfied now, for I probably was already ripped off. Well I'm not satisfied by that at all and think it is a sad indictment of human nature. So we are to believe that these people with no history of participation in the Bitcoin community have spent >$1million and the last 12 months designing and building a Bitcoin protocol specific ASIC chip, then designed and built the board and software to interface with it, all without consulting anyone in the Bitcoin community?
If you believe that, I have some magic beans you might be interested in. You are just making assumptions here. They may have done nothing at all or they may in fact be in communication with someone in the bitcoin community. It might be a scam or just deluded enthusiasm. There's no telling really. It does seem unlikely but then we know nothing to base that critique on. They might be able to get masks done on the cheap or they might have a rich uncle who just loves bitcoins. The nature of difficulty goes against mass production of ASICs. People always say they will create them for he benefit of the network and sell them. At the end of the day, if you can hash more quickly than everyone else you are not going to want to lose that edge. There is no point in ramping up the difficulty quicker. So this alone is enough to believe that every ASIC development is a scam as there is literally no incentive to bring everyone along for the ride, the only incentive is to get everyone to pay for your ride. Apologies for not quoting the author, for it was not my intent to pass the quote off as my own. The key part of the quote has nothing to do with money, and everything to do with the software aspect. There is no way an outsider would be able to develop such an animal without the support of software developers within this community. It's virtually impossible! They need the filmware to operate the damn things. Their best bet is to promise Luke a free unit if he would vouch for them in stating that he is on board, but I'm 99.99% sure that Luke would not be part of such an act, thus SCAM. End of story! And while I'm on a roll, Al the Alpaca is an AssHole. I just read your signature, prick! |
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The guy has done nothing but read this forum, but had to come here to save us from this one particular scam, finding nothing relative in all past scams on this forum to weigh in on. What a trooper! Really you're that much of a cock that you will berate someone for trying to weed out scammers. To be honest it would be satisfying to see you ripped off. I have seen people getting scammed and the sad results of BFL specifically the poor guy who went to Hungary to meet Primeasic. Seems you can't win here! I actually took the time to do some investigation, call them on the phone, this after I had sourced relevant information in the code of their site and looked into their location. This led to me a conclusion that they might be who they said they were. All you can do is have a go at that effort. So really who cares if you get ripped off. I for one won't and if I was a couple of swedes in line to create an ASIC machine I would just put it on the network and tell you to build your own.. Of course you being so smart it should be easy for you. It's people like you that makes me think scammers aren't that bad after all  Dude, you have issues! And you might as well be satisfied now, for I probably was already ripped off. And you're welcome for thanking me into putting mega hours in trying to get a handle on what these guys are up to with this project. Did you not read the following post showing how impossible it is for them to have what they claim to have? So we are to believe that these people with no history of participation in the Bitcoin community have spent >$1million and the last 12 months designing and building a Bitcoin protocol specific ASIC chip, then designed and built the board and software to interface with it, all without consulting anyone in the Bitcoin community?
If you believe that, I have some magic beans you might be interested in. I think another Thank You is in order. |
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Farmville credits have no intirinsic value so you cant use them for money....  My oldest sister dumped a lot of money into her farm. My middle sister is about to get disability due to how she got hooked on it. My middle brother played Farmville all his waking hours while on unemployment, but has since reentered the workforce, leaving the game. My younger sister did it strongly for a while, but left prior to getting hooked. My younger brother plays one of those mafia games of which he's put tens of thousand into his main tune until he learned to get all the gifts free during glitches. He's now able to take a new toon and level it up greatly within a week, all on automatic pilot. My nephew plays those violent video games on his xBox, then tries to fuck the dog before going to sleep. I'm the only sane one in the bunch. |
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Louis: My God! Mt Gox is going to corner the entire Bitcoin market!
Ophelia: Unless somebody stops them...
Coleman: ...or *beats* them to it.
[all turn and look at him]
Coleman: Egg-nog?
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Why? Because I just read your post history.
Greyhawk! We have another one.
If you would actually take the time to read my posts (you know how to do that, right?) then you would actually see that I'm quite skeptical as well. But again... that's probably too difficult for someone like you so I rest my case. My bad! Please accept my apology. From the post below I now see that you're quite skeptical. EU INTRA-VAT number?
Paypal it is not fraud resistant. Escrow?
Specs?
Someone from Sweden can check address and others?
VAT number (confirmed) is already posted on the first page, and I have confirmed a few posts up that he is who he claims to be.Quick question: Since you and I are on the same page, why we fuedin'? Unless we no on same page, then Mongel sad! |
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At the moment, I'm leaning toward ID impersonation. If my name were Bruno Smith and I discovered another Bruno Smith to impersonate for just a long enough period of time, I would use my existing social media accounts to perpetuate the scam, hoping the reward justifies me going dark. I would do this off the back of prior web presences of the other Bruno Smith somehow interweaving the two and maybe even get lucky by discovering he had a partner. Then I would set up two Google+ accounts and have them follow each other, which I've already shown to be the case.
Oddly, the two wives of Andreas and Samuel never mention their husbands on Facebook, yet link to said names, now having me think that they are only some other relatives.
It is so motherfuckin' easy for viable entities to prove who they say they are, yet they opt to go the dance route.
Madness!
I would suggest that your instead of sitting there with your "I'm leaning toward", "I would", "oddly" and nitpicking an tiny details which doesn't mean anything, go do some real due diligence and share the results... because you obviously won't believe anyone in this thread that has already confirmed that they are legit to a certain degree. However, something tells me that it would be too difficult for you and that you rather sit and fabricate trash posts with the sole purpose of increasing your post-count. @chipd Don't pay the shithead any mind. He's nothing but a loser, probably still living in his mother's basement at the age of 52. I have done my due diligence, thus getting on the list to order three or four units down the road. Too bad I can't order them now. I wouldn't mind paying half now and half later. Even it they turn out to be a scam, it's money I can afford to lose. I don't need some barn wood guy telling me what I can or can't do with my own money. I think the mods should ban Phinnaeus Gage from this site permanently for all the bullshit he spreads, but they probably won't because he probably sucks their dicks. Andreas or Sam, please PM if at all I can order early. Was just ready to call it a night, but now have to address this damn animal's post. I'm 53, not 52, and my mother's dead. I've never been in the basement except twice where I live, so there. What the hell due diligence did you do to come to the conclusion that they are not a scam? And what bullshit do I spread are you talking about? BTW, Al. How's that pipe business you were planning on opening working out. ~Bruno K~ |
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At the moment, I'm leaning toward ID impersonation. If my name were Bruno Smith and I discovered another Bruno Smith to impersonate for just a long enough period of time, I would use my existing social media accounts to perpetuate the scam, hoping the reward justifies me going dark. I would do this off the back of prior web presences of the other Bruno Smith somehow interweaving the two and maybe even get lucky by discovering he had a partner. Then I would set up two Google+ accounts and have them follow each other, which I've already shown to be the case.
Oddly, the two wives of Andreas and Samuel never mention their husbands on Facebook, yet link to said names, now having me think that they are only some other relatives.
It is so motherfuckin' easy for viable entities to prove who they say they are, yet they opt to go the dance route.
Madness!
I would suggest that your instead of sitting there with your "I'm leaning toward", "I would", "oddly" and nitpicking an tiny details which doesn't mean anything, go do some real due diligence and share the results... because you obviously won't believe anyone in this thread that has already confirmed that they are legit to a certain degree. However, something tells me that it would be too difficult for you and that you rather sit and fabricate trash posts with the sole purpose of increasing your post-count. Why? Because I just read your post history. Greyhawk! We have another one. Just gave their number a call and spoke with Andreas. Having worked in Sweden a lot Andreas is definitely a Swede and definitely picked up the phone and had a conversation with me  SO I am pretty happy that these guys are genuinely who they say they are. The proof will be a demo of an ASIC machine. This will be provided as and when they have it. They are not promising anything as of yet and holding back specification until the development is more concrete. Watch this space I guess! no offense but i don't buy this. you just created this user and you are implying that only after one phone call they are a legit ASIC business? why didn't you asked some technical questions. they should know the fab, the process node and some other stuff. you just spoke with one person on the phone. BFL has offices, has boxes full of fans and they even "shipped" some kind of FPGA shit that they called ASIC, but that doesn't prove anything.
You have the sockpuppet start out as a loud critic, then slowly scale back and have the sockpuppet turn into a loyal supporter, for he "has seen the light".
Combine it with a third sockpuppet as suporter who you had sockpuppet A argue with and Bam! Instant Reputation. |
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So we are to believe that these people with no history of participation in the Bitcoin community have spent >$1million and the last 12 months designing and building a Bitcoin protocol specific ASIC chip, then designed and built the board and software to interface with it, all without consulting anyone in the Bitcoin community?
If you believe that, I have some magic beans you might be interested in.
You know that Andreas or Samuel will come here to not only refute the above, but touch upon in some clever way as to how they were able to complete the task, probably with the help of their local Swedish hardware store--ÅCEic: Platsen med hjälp hårdvara mannen. |
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Turns out bitbet.us may actually be in the wrong here! My Little Single is getting 29.4 Gh/s with a firmware update. In their defense, the bet could be argued to require +/- 10% as delivered (eg, disqualifying firmware updates), but if this performance issue had merely been my software, they'd have defrauded people... How come you keep stirring the pot? can't we let these two strings die? I understand they have been shipping since March 31 and I understand they have only shipped one unit and I understand other people lost money and are mad, but I CANNOT "unwatch" this thread (there is some bug in the option). It keeps popping up and now you are going to make them all start this catty fight all over again and this will keep popping up in my reply string. Please let the dead horse be buried and stop kicking the poor beast. It's a tactic carried over from Josh's Bullshido days. An excellent read: http://www.uswebpros.com/?Martial_Art_Investigation_Website_Bullshido_May_Host_Fake_Postings_1246&a=49200Why, you may ask would a martial art website be in the business of harming other martial arts and their respective teachers? The answer is two fold. One the more salacious and the more profanity the more attention the posts get. |
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Good news, everybody! Our money is safe till after the conference, for we've seen this dance once before in London. It seems that André Boussac a.k.a. Pierre Noizat will be speaking at Bitcoin2013 in San Jose: http://www.bitcoin2013.com/bitcoin-2013-panelists.htmlDon't bother Googling Pierre-André Boussac, for there's nothing to see there. He'll be at the Cali conference ? Can you sell enough barn-wood to get there in time to suck his cock ?  Bruno be there! |
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Why the hell do you want to protect a user account with only 369 posts on it? Come back fresh with a different user name. My bad! You need to protect your twitter account with the 56 followers and 249 tweets: https://twitter.com/sjalqSomebody fax me the memo showing at what year scammers turned stupid and lazy. |
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Good news, everybody! Our money is safe till after the conference, for we've seen this dance once before in London. It seems that André Boussac a.k.a. Pierre Noizat will be speaking at Bitcoin2013 in San Jose: http://www.bitcoin2013.com/bitcoin-2013-panelists.htmlDon't bother Googling Pierre-André Boussac, for there's nothing to see there. |
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davout, the first bitcoin staff member to scam the community I thought I was the first scammer staff member. I was going to comment, but your post fucked me up. Don't you have a bomb shelter to build or something?  BTW, I made a post in 'meta' to discover what access ~davout has or had. Particularly whether he could read my PM's. ~badbear says no. This post reminded me of something. Boussac said something about PMs being sent and him not reading (paraphrased to illustrate a point). I know as a fact that PMs here can be setup to alert you via an email where, in turn, the email can be sent to your smartphone. The entire process takes less than a minute to set up. If a company in crisis can't even take the time to calm their customer base in a professional manner, then those fuckers don't need to be in business. At least Mt Gox tries now, better than they used to be. Meanwhile, I'm glad to see that Pierre's coins are safe: http://blockchain.info/address/1PierreFUi7RuFkkA812MQyRruDZhzzh7Y |
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For those who cashed out when bitcoin was over $200, I wonder if they converted to USD fast enough... for everyone's sake.
Nah! They saw it going to $300 in the next couple hours so opted to hang onto them. When they saw the price point moving south, they simply got into the lagline, therefore all is swell. |
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davout, the first bitcoin staff member to scam the community I thought I was the first scammer staff member. I was going to comment, but your post fucked me up. Don't you have a bomb shelter to build or something? |
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Interesting transcript with Dave from BFL I found on that reddit link. It confirms BFL doesn't have a set shipping date yet, and they are full of shit when it comes to shipping "next week". http://pastebin.com/HpxTwUNWColor me shocked. Ready for some more color? There is no 1164 SW Hillsdale in Topeka, KS. In fact, there is no street at all named Hillsdale in Topeka, KS. But there is such a place in Shawnee, KS, just outside Kansas City. My guess is that in the backyard one would find chickens. Please surrender your Jr. Detective badge and water pistol sir... But, Andy... You know more than 3/4ths of the board won't know the reference. They will now! It even has a goat in the image.  |
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Just gave their number a call and spoke with Andreas. Having worked in Sweden a lot Andreas is definitely a Swede and definitely picked up the phone and had a conversation with me SO I am pretty happy that these guys are genuinely who they say they are. The proof will be a demo of an ASIC machine. This will be provided as and when they have it. They are not promising anything as of yet and holding back specification until the development is more concrete. Watch this space I guess! no offense but i don't buy this. you just created this user and you are implying that only after one phone call they are a legit ASIC business? why didn't you asked some technical questions. they should know the fab, the process node and some other stuff. you just spoke with one person on the phone. BFL has offices, has boxes full of fans and they even "shipped" some kind of FPGA shit that they called ASIC, but that doesn't prove anything. It's a reverse psychology sockpuppet thing. You have the sockpuppet start out as a loud critic, then slowly scale back and have the sockpuppet turn into a loyal supporter, for he "has seen the light". Combine it with a third sockpuppet as suporter who you had sockpuppet A argue with and Bam! Instant Reputation. Beat to the punch once again. I'm slippin'! The guy has done nothing but read this forum, but had to come here to save us from this one particular scam, finding nothing relative in all past scams on this forum to weigh in on. What a trooper! At the moment, I'm leaning toward ID impersonation. If my name were Bruno Smith and I discovered another Bruno Smith to impersonate for just a long enough period of time, I would use my existing social media accounts to perpetuate the scam, hoping the reward justifies me going dark. I would do this off the back of prior web presences of the other Bruno Smith somehow interweaving the two and maybe even get lucky by discovering he had a partner. Then I would set up two Google+ accounts and have them follow each other, which I've already shown to be the case. Oddly, the two wives of Andreas and Samuel never mention their husbands on Facebook, yet link to said names, now having me think that they are only some other relatives. It is so motherfuckin' easy for viable entities to prove who they say they are, yet they opt to go the dance route. Madness! |
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Turns out bitbet.us may actually be in the wrong here! My Little Single is getting 29.4 Gh/s with a firmware update. In their defense, the bet could be argued to require +/- 10% as delivered (eg, disqualifying firmware updates), but if this performance issue had merely been my software, they'd have defrauded people... you sure say some stupid things. You may have a unit, but the bet was for BFL to ship out units to customers. Which they failed to do.. This. The bet says "will deliver ASIC Bitcoin mining devices to their customers", NOT " a customer" thus implying plurality. Having one unit shipped to one customer does not logically satisfy the conditions of the bet. I'm somewhat inclined to agree with this post. |
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Interesting transcript with Dave from BFL I found on that reddit link. It confirms BFL doesn't have a set shipping date yet, and they are full of shit when it comes to shipping "next week". http://pastebin.com/HpxTwUNWColor me shocked. Ready for some more color? There is no 1164 SW Hillsdale in Topeka, KS. In fact, there is no street at all named Hillsdale in Topeka, KS. But there is such a place in Shawnee, KS, just outside Kansas City. My guess is that in the backyard one would find chickens. Please surrender your Jr. Detective badge and water pistol sir... But, Andy... |
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