It's quite pleasant for me that someone else is doing the legwork on a scam for a change: from https://ttrcoin.com/threads/neluns-io-scam.2796/page-2 confirming that NELUNS and their "$1.5m investors", The Manhattan (Blockchain) Fund are run by the same scammers, using the same IP address. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fttrcoin.com%2Fattachments%2Fnelunsbank-jpg.6215%2F&t=663&c=gYH4qIlZh1xoUA) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fttrcoin.com%2Fattachments%2Fthemanhattanfund-jpg.6216%2F&t=663&c=YmKg1wtaFLNPjQ)
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It will definitely be interesting to see if milonite deletes any of our "off-topic" posts A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by the starter of a self-moderated topic. There are no rules of self-moderation, so this deletion cannot be appealed. Do not continue posting in this topic if the topic-starter has requested that you leave. You can create a new topic if you are unsatisfied with this one. If the topic-starter is scamming, post about it in Scam Accusations. What number of tokens does the project allocate for the project promotion and all other goals? It is important for me to know the quantity, because on the basis of this information it can resolve some issues.
13,501,020 NLS for a bounty campaign What, the bounty campaign that they refuse to pay out on? Delete this one too, ya scamming cunt. That makes seventeen... ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
Have you looked at your trust recently? I don't know if I want to carry on this conversation, matey says you're a scammer.... ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F3AzDnLW.png&t=663&c=CzQ-VyVlaieyUg)
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I see that the NELUNS [ANN] thread OP milonite logged in today for the first time in a couple of weeks, answering briefly on another of his bounty threads, for MINDOL the [ANN] of which has also received the Pong Bot treatment. It will be interesting to see whether a) He indulges in mass self mod deleting b) The Pongs continue to stink the place out
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There's also a Scam Accusation thread on the main board. Would be particularly interested if anyone has NELUNS' BTC investment donation address, much forum merits for info, tia. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FgfDrlss.png&t=663&c=B6jn-PJKN5TDgQ)
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Yeah I read Telegram too Lee White admin
"Guys, @alexajoan was an invited bounty manager on outsourcing from marketing company based in San Francisco. Her job is well done. Now our CTO Darrell Martin is on duty of bounty manager till December 31. All questions about bounty campaign you can ask here in chat.
We’ve noticed some negative activity of bounty hunters who aren’t satisfied with our bounty campaign. We won’t give any comments about this stupid morons and haters. Neluns is the American Company and it contradicts to our policy. But we will definitely take into account all negative comments from bounty hunters when distribution begins and they won’t get NLS tokens because it brakes the rules of our bounty campaign. Before you show off hate and write negative comments about our project turn on your brain and think about the consequences." "Lee White".... nice Anglo name for a nice Anglo project. Only thing is, that was written by someone whose first language obviously isn't English. stupid morons and haters Scammers love to call critics "haters". Legit businesses call critics "critics". the payments will definitely be there, just need to be patient If I had a BTC for every time I have read that, I could change my name to Winkelvoss. Still, only 51 days to wait and you'll know. If everything is really honest, it will be a very cool project with a great future. Yeah... IF, the biggest word in the dictionary....
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I normally write up my Scam Accusations better than this, but I want to get it out there and the link below pretty much summarizes my research so far. My interest in NELUNS was triggered by their [ANN] thread, an echo chamber of paid for posts. The scammers managed to create a superficially convincing micro environment of NELUN's existence, but the closer I looked the more brittle it became. I think the expression on their "Marketing Manager"s face says it all, but I'll repeat it anyway NELUNS is a scam Here's the link (Russian), I agree with the research and the conclusion; https://ttrcoin.com/threads/neluns-io-scam.2796/
![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FgfDrlss.png&t=663&c=B6jn-PJKN5TDgQ)
One part of the jigsaw is missing at the moment: if anyone sent any of their BTC to buy these tokens, I'd be grateful of NELUNS' Bitcoin address. Tia.
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... No wonder the woman on the right looks skeptical. She's their Marketing person, the one who hasn't tweeted anything for a month. A New York marketer, hasn't used Twitter for four weeks? Must be dead, or smth.
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Her expression is priceless, and that graph might as well have a drawing of the moon in the upper right corner! I see you are trying to fight the good fight in the Neluns thread, but the mods failed to nuke the two old newbie accounts brought online yesterday - 30stomachs and Forward - even after I provided 2 examples of plagiarism for each of them. I submitted a 3rd example for each this morning but, really, one should be sufficient for banning anyone, much less a <30 activity newbie! I have half an hour before the pub opens, so having a little fun there. I don't like criticizing mods, they have a shit job and generally do it very well but I can't help thinking that, unless they take firmer action, this could be the thin end of the wedge and this type of Pong spam will become the New Normal.
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When I started this thread over three years ago, crypto had had little exposure to MLM. The MLM industry in America was busy with its staple diet of dubious products in the healthcare, diet supplements and household sectors. It's a very conservative industry, sticks with what it knows and is organized along franchise lines. There's either the establishment model, corporations like Amway and Vemma, or the fringe where independent high flyers with established "downlines" and relentless marketing jump from new scheme to new scheme in search of new "investors". The founders of BCN were the latter and struck gold, in so far as they stumbled on something (Bitcoin) which allowed them to write their own rules. The lack of regulation and the mystique surrounding crypto were an MLMer's dream and they exploited it to the hilt.
MLM is quite a closed, close-knit world and soon it was flavor of the month to churn out crypto related schemes with MLM schemes attached, massively enabled by the anonymity aspect and the untraceable nature of funds. Scammers also fall out with one another and fork off to establish copycats, and that's the environment that enabled Tradecoinclub. The crypto world cottoned on fairly quickly to the old style sales approach of the MLM world, which is why you don't see huge threads on here regarding obvious schemes, but it still has a massive presence on the fringes of real crypto with schemes like Onecoin and Dagcoin.
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I just wish that Neluns dont turn to be scam because It's really like promising for me it's just that listing other crypto cost to much and it depends on their verdict if they will list or not so let see what will happened .
Why, did you buy some or are you waiting for bounty?
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Though it looks like the site is being widely used in Tunisia(whatever country that is).
You must be American ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Tunisia's in North Africa, one of those countries with fiat exchange controls, which makes Bitcoin more attractive than just a price to speculate with, an actual outside world currency. That makes sense as the site is run from France (that's in Europe), and Tunisia used to be a French colony, like America.
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News? One thing you can be sure of, market makers knew it before you.
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That site appears to be insecure when visited with Chrome (no https), I certainly wouldn't use it for anything.
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Our dear Bounty Hunters!
Don’t worry about the lock of your tokens till December 25. Guys, we didn’t expect that there will be more than 9000 bounty hunters participating in our campaign and that the counting will take such a long time. We don’t want you to be upset because of amount of NLS tokens you get that’s why we don’t hurry with counting. We take into account your opinion about your reward and want you to be satisfied. That’s why we locked tokens till December 25. By the way this December we plan to activate Neluns Exchange and that will be a great opportunity for you to convert your NLS tokens into cryptocurrencies in our Exchange. Thank you for your understanding! "Dear investors, we also ask you not to worry about the distribution of tokens for bounty hunters. This December we plan to launch the Neluns Exchange and token distribution will occur through our Exchange. Usually all bounty hunters seek to sell their tokens as soon as possible and that’s the reason why we’ve decided to distribute their tokens in December so they could sell it trough our Exchange raising our profits. It will grow the amount of dividends for us and our investors in this quarter(4Q2018). I remind you that our prerogative is the preservation, protection and increasing capital of our investors. Therefore we will suppress any attempts of defamation of the Neluns project." By the way this December we plan to activate Neluns Exchange According to their road map, by the end of October (i.e. now), they should have been listed on the big external exchanges and their own wasn't due until February. It appears that they are making it up as they go along (now they got the money). ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FJyrd4Lz.png&t=663&c=MJLOjNWZecd3ng)
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According to ICOBench, Neluns completed their ICO a month ago, didn't they? Why are these shill/bot accounts still active? There is no point in creating fake buzz now after everything has finished. Hmm, I'm missing something here... ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) According to whitepaper they will run IPO in 2020, maybe that's why? Or maybe when they exit scammed, with the minute real percentage of the claimed $136m, they forgot to turn off everything in their short term rental offices? Or maybe they sent the missing bounty money to the bumping service by mistake? What's 200,000,000 * $1200? About half a Warren Buffet. No wonder the woman on the right looks skeptical. She's their Marketing person, the one who hasn't tweeted anything for a month. A New York marketer, hasn't used Twitter for four weeks? Must be dead, or smth. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FgfDrlss.png&t=663&c=B6jn-PJKN5TDgQ)
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Pretty much 10 BTC a day on the nose, one way to average I guess.
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According to ICOBench, Neluns completed their ICO a month ago, didn't they? Why are these shill/bot accounts still active? There is no point in creating fake buzz now after everything has finished. Hmm, I'm missing something here... ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) This $136,000,000 ! ![Shocked](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/shocked.gif) ! ICO seems to have flown under most people's radar on here, including mine. Not only an exchange, a bank too. Not only an exchange and a bank, an insurance company too.... I'm looking at a rather complex scenario which interests me at the mo involving several U.S. based entities. I came upon Neluns thru the back door, so to speak, so decided to test the water with a post or two in their [ANN] thread. The behavior described (and other factors) has piqued my interest further and, although I'm some way from an effortpost, it's likely that Neluns strange media approach may well end up being counter productive in the bigger picture.
Today's bot interaction confirms the average time between each post in this game of spam Pong is six minutes, involving sets of ~eight posts/replies.
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