I'm mining HODLcoin with my laptop no problem. Can't say that it's profitable lol but mining works fine. 24/7 for a few days no problem. But... it's a CPU only coin, no gpu involved.

Frankly we need both traders and holders. Traders provide liquidity and holders provide value.

Science is the result of using the scientific method to arrive at the truth. It starts with a testable hypothesis, then that hypothesis gets tested until it fails. The tests are not with words and philosophy, they are with experiments that have quantitative outcomes. The fallibility of humans in this situation is the equivalent of a single trader trying to insert a false trade into the bitcoin block. The community of scientists, and more importantly, the documented results from multiple independent tests, do not let the erroneous claims last very long. On that basis surely you must see how colossally impossible it would be for example the thousands of NASA employees to be in on "the secret" and duping you all about the curvature of the earth.

Apply Occam's razor. The more likely explanation is that people who believe in flat earth do not understand the reasoning behind the scientific conclusions and so reject them out of hand. Or perhaps their personal identity is wrapped up in a particular belief system and it is too painful to confront any challenges. We are all subject to that behavior on some topics. But if they had concrete evidence other than belief they would be able to share with others who could then independently verify their conclusions. If they were applying the scientific method.

The mistake many laypeople make is assuming that scientists come to their conclusions by consensus in the way common language uses that word. That is not true, they come to their conclusions by tests. When the media says "97% of climatologists believe in human driven climate change" that doesn't mean that 97% just one day said "hey that sounds good, Dr. Joe Blow did a cool study, I think I'll agree with it because it fits my liberal agenda and it'll get me those juicy gov't grants", what it means is that 97% of the people who do the research have performed scientific experiments where they then reach the conclusion that their particular experiment supports it. In other words, scientists LIVE to prove other scientists wrong. It is how they make their legacy and further human knowledge.

Humans are very good at pattern matching, we see connections where sometimes there aren't. It is a good trait. But to be knowledge we can trust those connections must be verified by many others, not just the observation of the connection but the tested reasons explaining those observations. If you wish to prove the earth is flat you will have to design an experiment to test your hypothesis that other people can repeat without your involvement. If they come to the same conclusions as you then you might be on to something. Or do it the other direction, look at the historical experiments that have led us to determination that the earth is a spheroid and repeat them yourself. If you come to different conclusions then publish.

That is absolutely not what the definition of a scientific theory is. Please educate yourself.

They will claim that you drugged them and they are really in a holding cell in a bunker under Hollywood.

It's back up for me. Growing pains I suspect, maybe combined with the DDOS other exchanges were seeing, i.e. just a ton of traffic since interest in this sector exploded a couple weeks ago. Nothing to worry about IMO.

The smart contract portion is the powerhouse under the hood here. One use case off the top of my head ...Everytime a piece of label music gets used/played anywhere, money is supposed to be paid to performing rights organizations who then disburse it to the various stakeholders in the song, not limited to the artist by any means. The amount of redirection of funds and maintenance of that chain is mind boggling and prone to abuse as well as mistakes not to mention every step of the way reduces the payout to the creative, the artists, producers, etc. In one fell swoop that whole chain can be replaced by MUSIC. You play a song? Payments automatically distributed where they need to go based on contracts, auditing built in because of the block chain. It's a totally disruptive technology potentially.

I think musicoin has huge potential, but I'm coming at it from a music producer point of view, not an investor. So much of the music industry is basically middlemen injecting themselves between the artist and the rest of the world taking a little piece here and there, death by a thousand cuts. MUSIC has the potential to do away with a lot (not all) of that. This technology can be disruptive to performing rights orgs (ASCAP, BMI, etc), publishing houses, record labels, etc. What this tech does not address is the age old issue of creating excitement for the artists, the marketing aspect, the social aspect, getting the artist to the right audience; the professionals that do that work will continue to be valued. However, in terms of trackable contract based transactions the tech is almost tailor made for the way the music industry works. Still very speculative of course but like I said from a music industry perspective it got my attention. I don't know about soundchain but will look it up, if it is similar then that's actually a good thing long term for viability of approach.

Forgetting bitcoin for a second, if you just want to polish up your C++ skills, a great free site to do this is hackerrank.com , extra cool because you can do all the various exercises in several different languages back and forth.

I had to completely wipe any hodl files except my backup wallet from my computer, *REBOOT*, then reinstall the v3.0.0 version of things and I'm good now. I did enjoy being on the wrong fork for awhile as my mining was awesome, but it was just air.  

The basic general advice I've always seen is when you are young then your investments should tilt toward growth and as you get older gradually tilt toward more stable.

With that in mind altcoins are fine as part of your portfolio particularly for aggressive growth.

But 2 rules:
1) Always adjust your portfolio, at least review once per quarter to make sure your performance is going where you want it.
2) Diversify. That doesn't just mean a bunch of different altcoins. That could mean some bitcoin, some altcoin, some gold/silver, some mutual funds, an IRA, some stocks, some cash hidden in your coffee can, etc. The split you choose for these is very personal but basically all come down to how you view risk management.

Also I think most people would consider their retirement savings to be of the "buy and hold" variety and avoid trading too much with it if at all.

Also another thing I see very few people doing is having a target for their retirement, in years and fiat. There are many calculators on the net that can help you with this.

"Original Post", though it can also mean the person instead of the chat as in "Original Poster." Welcome to the world of acronyms where laziness meets obscureness in a head on collision.

Yeah I dunno, I want to believe but Cannabis makes a good point. I've tried reindex, rescan, multiple times, deleted blockchain folders in my app_data dir on windows, and mining deposits from supernova don't show up *and* deposits made from my PC wallet to coinexchange don't show up. So I don't know what's going on.

Same here, overnight solo mining had a couple hundred, looked fine this morning, then came home from work and 0 balance. Glad I checked here first, will just be patient, hopefully a fix is in soon.

For some reason when I go to the site the amt of bitcoin collected doesn't show up but the other coins do, so calculating roughly using exchange rates from coinmarketcap and without the # of bitcoins added, i.e. this is only the altcoin count I get that NVO has so far raised about...
 $900,672 USD.

From https://www.google.com/search?q=russian+to+english&sourceid=ie8&rls=com.microsoft:en-US:IE-Address&ie=&oe=&gws_rd=ssl
translates to:
"Bounty social network is or is not? Answer pliz"

Thanks Lauda, appreciate the hand holding!

Sorry, yet another "how do I do this" question. I've read most of the thread and still am confused.

Now my question is about how to fund.. can I fund from my coinbase ETH wallet to the NVO ETH escrow directly or do I need to first transfer my coinbase ETH funds to a private ETH wallet and *then* to NVO ETH escrow. Very confusing.

Is my understanding of the flow (in purple) correct?...

funding...
altcoin on exchange -> supported escrow address on nvo
 * or *
bitcoin on exchange -> privately controlled wallet -> bitcoin escrow address on nvo

on campaign completion...
NVOT deposited to my privately controlled BTC wallet that I listed on NVO