I do not know of any nation on earth that does not acknowledge God in its laws. What country are you from? All the nations are under God. Jesus christ is the law that came in the flesh and the law was nailed to the cross.

This post is a poll by the way, and vod is trying to change the topic. This post is about health care accountability.

Doctors are not held accountable to the courts of the land that often.

According to what I have read, due to the fact that health care is so complex, therefore
the lawyers, judges and courts have off-scoured the responsibility
for accountability onto the health care workers themselves,
and the health care workers have created their own self-governing
body, to deal with the accountability of doctors.

The doctors are not held accountable to the courts of the land, in the way the rest of us are.

Some people think that doctors should be exhonorated, because they are 'trying to do good'...
But are they really trying? A closer analysis of this is needed.
Exhonoration seems to be the more popular choice, and people who think doctors should be held accountable and punished, tend to get persecuted.

I can go on and on about this, but I'll cut it short here.
Let the voting begin

Whether or not someone who is taken in an ambulance will die or not, may be a debatable matter.
The portrayal as though 100% of people given rides in ambulances will die without their care,
cannot be true.
The fact they will not allow people to have free will or choice, once they have apprehended someone,
does seem to be tyranical to me.
As though somehow their own philosophies or doctrines of what is health care, are somehow superior to our own?
But what if, in fact, some or more of their doctrines are not as good?
Then they are just behaving like autobots who are doing what the state told them to do, without regards for whether it is good or evil to the people they do it to.

if they say 'would you rather be dead', well, I see that as some kind of deviant form of extortion almost, hardly becoming of people who are supposedly 'health care' workers.

What if you totally disagree with the health care workers and really do not think they intend to do good for you, but instead have the intention of causing you harms?

The only 'solution' I can think of, is to avoid the state health care system or health care workers; which can be very difficult if catastrophe occurs, or even if a person gets sick.
A person who resists going to them, may get grabbed hold of, by some citizen or citizens, who may think that they are doing good by calling an ambulance, though the person did not want one.

Its an interesting topic.

I did ask for people who believe in Jesus to reply,


and I thank the following members for replying, but I hope
that more people who believe in Jesus Christ will reply.


dank - in your first post to this thread, you opened by saying you believe

pedrog- I see you rebuking Kenshin for saying that 'jesus never existed',
so I take that to mean that you believe that Jesus Christ did exist.
But do you believe in Jesus Christ? or do you believe that Jesus was 'just a man'?
It seems you are on your way to believing in jesus christ?


rampalija - Thank you for replying, I see you believe in Jesus christ.

verucabathsalts - you were raised by people who believe in jesus christ,
and seem to believe in jesus christ.

rascal777 - you are showing more faith and belief in Jesus Christ than any of the
other replies in this thread so far.

Eternity - You believe in Jesus Christ

BitChick - You believe in Jesus Christ. thank you for replying. You have been more active than
any of the other believers on this thread.

BitchicksHusband - Also believes in Jesus Christ.

anonymous_acc - you believe in jesus christ

qwertyGuy - it seems you do believe in Jesus Christ.

kentrolla - you believe in Jesus Christ. We are the clay,
and God is the potter. After living in disbelief, God takes
the piece of clay and remakes the clay, but the transition
can sometimes be hard to cope with, and sometimes people
experience 'mind or spirit troubles' or if you prefer
to use the pagan word 'psychological'... but also in the midst
of the transformation a person may believe in jesus christ
during that time, and likely afterwards as well.
Your story of a mind-breakdown and it coinciding with the conversion to believe
in Jesus Christ, is not the only one. You are not alone.
Myself, when I first believed in Jesus Christ, I wrote on the wall that 'I AM JESUS',
although I know I am not Jesus, but I was compelled by a spirit or spirits to write
that on the door or wall of my room. It was actually quite scary to be converted all of
a sudden like that, going from a non-believing states, to suddenly having no option but
to believe, considering all the evidence suddenly presented by a spirit, spirits, Jesus,
holy spirit and/or God. So, I know the terror of God. The non-believers would be fearful
if they knew some of his powers. The clouds of the sky are as the dust of his feet.
He is Almighty God. Alpha and Omega. There be no power except it be of God.
Jesus is King of Kings, and Lord of Lords. Jesus Christ was lifted up, high above
all the angels of heaven, and is seated at the right hand of God.


Et Filii - Thank you for the quotes from the book of Mattew. I find it refreshing to
read that.
Such as:
7“Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you.8For everyone who asks receives; the one who seeks finds; and to the one who knocks, the door will be opened.
The living word of God speaks for itself. Thank you for replying.

foggyb - I like the book of Job. Job was kind and helped out alot of people.
I don't understand why God allowed the devil to cause Job so much troubles.
But after Jobs afflictions, Job once again went back to helping people again.
He was a really nice guy I think. Sometimes, if the state or other people
are not helping, where the heck are some people going to get some help?
are they just going to be trodden down, dying of thirst or starvation, without shelter
etc....? Its a scary thought, but if there is nothing given and no one to help,
then people will die. It is possible for most of us to fall down at some time in our
lives, isn't it? What if there was nothing there? We would die or suffer alot,
and its much better to get some help sometimes. Its a difficult job, but Job
did it.
 



********************I reply to some of the people who do not believe in Jesus Christ below: ***

btceic - you say you were born jewish, and you ask 'why jesus decided before I was
born to not include me as a chosen one?'
Well, Jesus actually is the savior of the jews, or hebrews, or israel(something like that)
as far as I know; but because some or more of them rejected Jesus, therefore
salvation went unto the gentiles. You are chosen, but you need to believe and receive
Jesus Christ as your Lord and savior.



DoomDumas - The Jews of the flesh believe in God, but they stumbled because of
rejecting their savior, jesus christ. They fell because of rejecting jesus;
so it is not enough to only believe in God, and you need to believe in Jesus Christ

Mike Christ - you have jesus christ's last name in your username at bitcointalk.org
but you lack faith or believe in jesus christ. According to my own studies,
'jesus' is a greek word that means 'SAVIOR' in english.
And 'Christ' is also a greek word that means 'Annointed One' or 'The Annointed One'.
Put it together, and in english, we can refer to him by this title:
THE ANNOINTED SAVIOR  - that is what 'jesus christ' actually means in english,
and it is His title. It is not his birth name. It is his Title.
There is none other. He is the one and only.
He is THE ANNOINTED SAVIOR.

DobZombie - not sure if you actually believe in Jesus christ

Ekaros - When I first believed in Jesus Christ, I was compelled to focus on the
writings of Paul the apostel, as those were the most important according to my
own conversion and the spirits involved with me. Paul even magnified his office
above Peter at one time. But you don't seem to believe in jesus christ.

BittBurger - I don't know if you believe in Jesus Christ or not.

ANiceJewishBoy - You say that His name was Jeshua vin Joseph, which is not a name
I am familiar with, but I am not a bible scholar. But you fail to see that
Jesus Christ (THE ANNOINTED SAVIOR OF THE JEWS) is the fulfillment of the
Old Testament prophecies, and He is the more perfect sacrifice, than the
sacrifices that were taught in the Old Testament, and performed by the Jews prior
to the coming of Jesus Christ. The tabernacle sacrifices are types of shadows
of the more perfect sacrifice of Jesus Christ.
Paul was one of the pharisees, and I think I read that Pauls father was also a
Pharisee. Paul is one of the most unlikely people to convert to believing
in Jesus Christ, and Steven was stoned to death, and died at Pauls feet.
And yet, God showed his Powers by converting Paul, and turning him into the minister
unto the gentiles. Paul is the man who explained Jesus Christ, or the
crucifixion of Jesus Christ, better than any other person ever did; and without
Paul, we had no where near as good of an explanation about the crucifixion of
Jesus Christ.
Jesus came to save the Jews, but they rejected Jesus, and it is through the rejection
of Jesus Christ, that salvation has gone unto the gentiles.






Once again, thank you for believing in Jesus Christ

Do you know the website address for BTC China?

oops, 0.0005 BTC is what I meant to bid

Are you having an auction this week?

Can I bid 0.0005 BTC ? ( if its an insult just let me know )

Ok, I bid 0.000 BTC

SaveMe.info is a Bitcoin Donations Website

Bidding on advertising spot ( 750 x 150 ) in top-center of
home page at saveme.info  , for one month of advertising ( december 2013 )

You can go to saveme.info and see the prominent spot that you
are bidding on, on the homepage at saveme.info

SaveMe.info is averaging over 100 unique visitors per day,
at the beginning of November 2013...


Minimum starting bid =  0.05 BTC

Bid increments = 0.01 BTC at least

Buy it now price = 5 bitcoins

Auction Starts: NOW

Auction Ends: NOVEMBER 29, AT THIS SAME TIME OF DAY
( the highest bidder, above the minimum starting bid of 0.05 BTC,  at that time receives the advertising for the month of december 2013 , although I reserve the right to accept any bid at any time, and close this auction at that time. I reserve the right to accept or reject any site for advertising at saveme.info)


Happy Bidding 


December may be the best month to advertise on a donation site,
such as SaveMe.info I think.


SaveMe.info is a Bitcoin Donations Website, where You Can Have Your Own Personal Bitcoin Donations
WebPage Built for you. People write their stories and ask for bitcoin donations. Other people
read the stories, and if they are compassionate, they might donate some bitcoins.

I work for you, when you have Your Own Bitcoin Donations WebPage at SaveMe.info
and I am only successful if you are successfully receiving bitcoin donations.
When you are successful, then I am successful.
I advertise SaveMe.info and traffic then goes to saveme.info and the people then can chose if they
want to read any of the stories and donate bitcoins.

SaveMe.info is averaging about 100 unique visits per day right now...

Very prominent advertising spot on the home page.

Only 0.15 BTC bid to get this started.

bid increments of 0.005 BTC

Auction ends in about 33 hours.

Highest Bidder above 0.15 BTC will be able to advertise for the remainder of the month of November, 2013.

I emailed wikipedia and asked them if they are accepting Bitcoin Donations.

I am also waiting to change my avatar as well. But we are all stuck for now, I guess.

niktitan132  You have won.


Congratulations, you will receive 1 free bitcoin donation webpage at saveme.info for one whole month.


I will need to get some info from you, so I can build your bitcoin donation webpage for you


1- Title ( this will also be used as the link on the home page of saveme.info )

2- Story - write your story and ask for bitcoin donations

3- Bitcoin address - I think if you create a new bitcoin address and label it, then use it only for
bitcoin donations at saveme.info and then you will know how much you are getting in donations from saveme.info

Finally send all that info to 'mee' by personal message at the forum at saveme.info
or you can send the info by private message to 'just_me' here at bitcointalk.org

Once I receive all the info I will then build your bitcoin donation webpage for you.

Please check at saveme.info to see your new bitcoin donation page

Once again, congratulations

Hi. Does that mean you want a free bitcoin donation webpage at saveme.info???


Please be clear, so I understand that you do want this free bitcoin donation page.


Offer is still available to the first person who replies and says they want this free bitcoin donation webpage.

Thank you

Ask, And You Shall Receive - Jesus Christ said that


You Can Ask For Free Donations to Buy Mining Hardware at saveme.info




SaveMe.info is giving away 1 free bitcoin donation webpage to the first person

who replies to this thread, and says that they would like to receive

the free bitcoin donation webpage.



What is in it for you?

1- You get a free bitcoin donation webpage at saveme.info for one month

2- People might give you bitcoins after you have your own bitcoin donation webpage at saveme.info
during the free month you get.


'Unlimited Potentials'
When you ask, you are only limited by the amounts that you ask for, or only limited by the amounts
that people are willing to give to you.

What do you have to do?

1- Title of your story

2- Story - you need to write your story and ask people to donate/send bitcoins to you

3- create a bitcoin address for receiving bitcoin donations at saveme.info

4- Send all this info to mee by personal message at the forum at saveme.info


Finally, after I receive all this info, then I will build your bitcoin donation webpage for you.
It usually takes about 2-6 hours and then your bitcoin donation page is built for you, but
I might get it done faster.

Note: The forum at saveme.info is for sending personal messages only.
Note: 'mee' is the name of the admin user at the forum at saveme.info and you send all the info
to 'mee'


If you are having any troubles using the forum for sending personal messages at saveme.info
then you can send the info to 'just_me' at bitcointalk.org by personal message.

Either way works fine, and I will build your bitcoin donation webpage for you.

Thank you

How many bitcoins do you get, when you are mining with 5 usb eruptors?

God as the pinnacle, or peak, and none greater can be concieved.
I think I get the logic.
If God only exists in the understanding but not in reality; then God existing in the reality, would be greater than God existing only in the understanding; therefore God must exist. (because there is none greater than God, and in order to fulfill that logic/reasoning, therefore if God existing in reality is greater than God existing only in understanding, then God must exist in reality then.

I changed the words a bit. I did not understand at first, but I kind of see what they are getting at.

I found a few websites with some witnessing for Jesus Christ, that people might find interesting.


Below is a link to an interesting witness about jesus christ
http://www.w3school.com/


Information on theism, atheism and Mormonism; also discussion of moral topics and issues
pleaseconvinceme.com


Cold Case Detective Converts to Faith In Jesus Christ
Online home to J. Warner Wallace, author of Cold Case Christianity and Christian apologist
And here is a link to a witness from a cold-case detective, that you might also find interesting:
coldcasechristianity.com

Yes, alexa only counts visitors with the toolbar installed. That is true.

Yesterday, there was over 100 uniques or visitors(can't remember which) to saveme.info, but

prior to october 15, 2013, saveme.info was only getting about 23-25 visits per month.

Saveme.info did end the month with over 500 uniques in october 2013

If you think my opening bid price is too high, then let me know.
Saveme.info is just getting started, and I have been giving away some bitcoin donations pages to get going.
So, expect people will want a good deal for the advertising too, but I think it is a good advertising spot, if you look at the home page of saveme.info you get the most prominent spot to advertise, and I don't think I will be allowing any other advertising this month. In fact, I am holding back on trying to advertise so early, but I would like to get some money to help pay for hosting and some of my time(maybe it'll work out to some pennies per hour for my work, but better than nothing i guess)

That advertising is only on the home page, by the way. People have to go to the home page at saveme.info all the time. All the stories links are all on the home page only, as well. So, the most significant traffic is to the home page.

I did have a page of content on saveme.info prior to making the site into a personal bitcoin donation website.

But that one page was not really bringing people in at all. I am honest.

It was about October 15th, 2013, is when I started to build bitcoin donation webpages for people,

But there has been a good response and traffic is growing continually since then.

Last time I checked, alexa.com was not showing anything for saveme.info but it sometimes takes some time for alexa to acknowledge when a site is getting more traffic, as it is starting to now.

Saveme.info is a bitcoin website, and as such, I expect that bitcoiners will surf there at times.

Another month, and alexa will likely be showing better stats for saveme.info

If I had really good stats right now, I might start the bidding out higher.

I expect to have more people getting bitcoin donations pages during the month of november and forwards after that as well.

SaveMe.info is looking for bidders to buy advertising space at saveme.info

I am auctioning prominent advertising space at saveme.info

Here is the link to the auction here at bitcointalk:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=323167.0


You can see the prominent ad-space I am auctioning off by surfing over to SaveMe.info

Thank you