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1181  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: Strange Radeon HD 7970 memory underclock issues on: May 02, 2013, 08:49:33 AM
This threat is somewhat old, but I am wondering if there are any updates on this topic.
1182  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Terra Coin mining on: May 01, 2013, 08:08:07 PM
Hello!

Is there a way to configure a miner to switch away from Terracoin as soon as difficulty jumps over a threshold and return mining when the difficulty returns within set limits?

Regards!

You are raising a very interesting question, and I have been thinking about it myself.

Developing something like this would be not only profitable for the users, but also for the Terracoin community, because currently the difficulty is fluctuating, while a widespread use of a tool as you describe could generate more stability.

I am not aware of such a tool (and if there is one, I would love to hear about it!), but I would look for one of the poolhopping tools, something like bithopper, and try to tweak it for this purpose. I think the community would appreciate anyone making such a change/patch.
1183  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: Optimal pool abuse strategy. Proofs and countermeasures on: May 01, 2013, 01:08:23 PM
It's not an error, though tricky and somewhat unclear.

He is assuming that \xi is constant while n and D are variable. For \xi=2, for example, he is considering a case that the hashes calculated are twice the average needed; he then considers what happens when D, and correspondingly n, go to infinity (continuous case). In this case the chance of not finding a block is indeed exp(-2).

So, is there an implicit assumption that n and D are linearly related?

You see, I have no problem with the observation that finding a block has a Poisson distribution. But the "proof" provided as it stands is simply wrong, unless D is a function of n,  and \xi is the limit of their ration when n tends to infinity.
1184  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: DGM pools -- bitparking, EMC, etc. on: May 01, 2013, 02:15:53 AM
No because the pool can't tell the difference between a hopper and one that is down due to technical difficulties on their side (at least that is what I would suspect)

Does hopping (in an optimal way) not have a very specific pattern that can be detected (specifically, by means of the time of the hopping)?
1185  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: Optimal pool abuse strategy. Proofs and countermeasures on: May 01, 2013, 02:12:30 AM
I have written a description of the optimal pool abuse strategy (for a single pool) with proofs and calculations. Available here:
http://bitcoin.atspace.com/poolcheating.pdf

Raulo, you have a mathematical error on page 1, in equation (4).

Your \xi depends on n. Consequently, you cannot pass to limit only in part of the expression.

The expression q:=1- (1/2^32* D)  is a real number < 1. Consequently, Q(n)=q^n -->0 as n --> \infty.

This makes perfect sense, because the probability that you will "almost surely" (in the sense of probability theory) find a block if you wait long enough (infinitely long).

1186  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: DGM pools -- bitparking, EMC, etc. on: May 01, 2013, 01:37:44 AM
This is the last 'justification' post I'm going to contribute to this thread because it's completely unproductive. Any answer is a 'right' answer depending on individual miners wants and needs. That's why it's great having so many pools to choose from.

First, I wanted to thank you for providing some explanation. I am sorry if any of this discussion appeared to you as unproductive. I can assure you that I found it very interesting and informative.

I am particularly grateful for sharing with me the link https://bitcoil.co.il/pool_analysis.pdf about the various pool reward systems -- it brings me back my kindest memories as an undergraduate student. I had a great professor for Probability Theory.

I wanted to toss out another, quote open-ended question (and again, none on this is directed against you or your pool in any way): Is there a "fair" way of rewarding miners without punishing those who may stop mining from time to time due to technical difficulties, faulty hardware, etc.?
1187  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: DGM pools -- bitparking, EMC, etc. on: April 30, 2013, 12:10:09 AM
I think you will be better off at a different mining place.  You seem to act like this place is out to rip you off or something.

Why should he NOT charge a fee, running mining pools cost money, bandwidth cost money, hosting cost money.  A run of bad luck costs money.

If he took the money from the other currencies then you would probably cry that he is ripping you off by stealing your other currencies  Roll Eyes

Again, if you do not like the fees, you are free to go mine elsewhere.  Or better yet, open your own mining pool, maintain it and run it however you want to.

I was not suggesting that bitparking is out to rip off anyone. I simply asked a question about an alternative way of recovering not only costs, but making profit for bitparking, namely, by retaining all revenue from alternative coins mined in the process, but not charging any fees for bitcoin mining.

If the information provided earlier is correct (that these alternative coins provide another 10% revenue), the pool operator would be much better off keeping this revenue, and not charging any fee for bitcoin mining.

My questions is: What is the reason that this is not how the pool operates? It would be a win for the operator (more profit), and a win for all miners, because the opportunity to do pooled mine at 0% fee would attract many miners. So, if the information provided earlier is correct, this would be a win-win situation.
1188  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: DGM pools -- bitparking, EMC, etc. on: April 29, 2013, 01:02:36 PM
Right now  namecoin adds 8.13%, devcoin 0.62% and ixcoin 2.18% to your earnings in terms of the price ratio to btc.

If so, then why do you charge any fees on bitcoins?

You could instead keep some or all of the rewards from these other currencies, and have a no fee BTC pool. Or at least offer such an option.
1189  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: DGM pools -- bitparking, EMC, etc. on: April 29, 2013, 04:03:16 AM
If so, then for 1 share that I submit, I am to receive both 1 unit of reward for bitcoin mining, but also 1 unit of reward for each of the other coins.
Yes, that is how it works: http://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/273/how-does-merged-mining-work

So, if converted (at today's rates) to bitcoins, what is the total reward per share on a PPS system (assuming 5% fee on bitcoins and 2.5% on all others)? In other words, what is the sum, in bitcoins, of all rewards received?
1190  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: DGM pools -- bitparking, EMC, etc. on: April 29, 2013, 01:12:39 AM
Each different currency has it's own hash rate, it's own difficulty, value, etc etc,  JUST like bitcoin.

When you signed up, IF you put in an address for these different currencies, you will be mining them along with your bitcoin.
If you did not put in an address then you will NOT be mining them.

Can you elaborate on what it means to mine them along with my bitcoins.

What was suggested here (and I am not sure if it is correct) that the same computation can be used for both mining bitcoins and other cryptocurrencies. In other words, that by putting addresses for more than one currency, I will not lose some of my computational capacity to mining things other than bitcoins.

If so, then for 1 share that I submit, I am to receive both 1 unit of reward for bitcoin mining, but also 1 unit of reward for each of the other coins.

Is this how it works?

If not, then now it works exactly in terms of rewards?
1191  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: DGM pools -- bitparking, EMC, etc. on: April 29, 2013, 12:26:24 AM
Can you explain how these rewards (in namecoins, devcoins, and ixcoins) are being calculated?
They are calculated the same as PPS in bitcoin, but with a 2.5% fee.

So, if I submit 1 share, then I will get each of the rewards listed, in the respective currencies?
1192  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: DGM pools -- bitparking, EMC, etc. on: April 28, 2013, 11:45:25 PM
EMC doesn't merge mine, so you are missing out on income from namecoins,devcoins, and ixcoins. EMC doesn't pay orphans, Bitparking does which eats into the fee quite a bit. It may be that none of this matters to you in which case, yes, EMC might be a better pool for you.

Can you explain how these rewards (in namecoins, devcoins, and ixcoins) are being calculated?
1193  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: DGM pools -- bitparking, EMC, etc. on: April 28, 2013, 11:02:55 PM
Yes, you are missing something. The pool 'merge mines', it doesn't mine each coin individually. This means a single hash from your miner is used to solve blocks across all the coins. See here: http://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/273/how-does-merged-mining-work

So, what happened with my rewards for these shares in alternative coins?

I received rewards only in bitcoins, with no indication of any other rewards.
1194  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: DGM pools -- bitparking, EMC, etc. on: April 28, 2013, 09:18:59 PM
I like the fact that you can mine other currencies concurrently with your bitcoin mining on Bitparking.  It's like a little extra cash at the end of the month when I combine them and trade them for BTC's

[...]

I do not know of any other mining pools that allow you to mine 4 different currencies at once.  If there are any, please let me know.

Can you explain what you mean by "at once"?  If you use your GPU for one, you are not using for the other.  In other words, while your GPU is mining namecoins, it is not bitcoins, and vice versa. So, unless namecoin is more economic to mine, you are actually losing money when use your rig for mining something other than bitcoins. And if namecoin is more economic, then one should be mining that all the time.

Am I missing something?

By the way, http://coinotron.com has a large variety of coins to mine.
1195  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: DGM pools -- bitparking, EMC, etc. on: April 28, 2013, 07:57:11 PM
You mean other than a trustworty op, highly stable pool, the only pool offering merged mining of 3 types of alt coins, good support, regular notifications and updates, backup stratum pools... maybe its best for doublec to answer.

No, really... i do not mean to come off as sarcastic.
Other pools have the same (and higher fees) without even a quarter of what bitparking offers.


EMC has:
-- a mining speed of 2500 GH/s (see https://eclipsemc.com/block_stats.php)
-- over 2000 miners
-- 3 servers
-- email notifications of changes and deposits
-- email notifications for failing miners

To be clear, I am not advocating for EMC (or any other pool), rather, I am trying to understand what bitparking has to offer that EMC does not have.
1196  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: DGM pools -- bitparking, EMC, etc. on: April 28, 2013, 07:26:37 PM
[+1

I read the upcoming changes and I think they are just fine, and necessary, if we want to see Bitparking survive.

While the changes may be justified with respect to the PPS fees, I am still puzzled about the DGM fees. How can other pools survive without imposing any fees on DGM?

To put it differently, what it is that bitparking offers that EMC does not with respect to the DGM?
1197  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: BTC prices in Canada on: April 28, 2013, 07:04:35 PM
Those are some pretty heavy discrepancies. Depending on the various fees you have associated with it, I would wonder if you could buy BTC from the cheapest fund and sell them to the most expensive?

I expect that you would lose all the profit from the transit costs and the wiring fees.
1198  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: why would anybody use CAVIRTEX? on: April 28, 2013, 07:03:00 PM
This has something to do with the ability to withdraw funds. CaVirtEx seems to be the only exchange to offer direct deposit and emailing funds -- in other words, it is the only exchange that really has some understanding of the Canadian banking system/reality, which is, in many ways, backward compared to the EU.

--G
1199  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: BTC prices in Canada on: April 28, 2013, 06:59:25 PM
The discrepancy between the prices is quite interesting.

The question is, I guess, what one wants to do with the bitcoins after the exchange. Some exchanges charge very high fees for sending you the funds.
1200  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Hi Im a newbie: Cgminer crashes with "Idle for more than 60 seconds, declaring s on: April 28, 2013, 06:45:26 PM
Quote
CPU and windows locks up for about 35 seconds, then it quits with this error.

I have a HD5850, i5 overclocked, 4gig rams, 64bit windows 7.

Can anyone help me? Thanks

Can you find out:

(a) core clock (MHz) and memory clock (MHz) when this happens?

(b) temperature when this happens?

(c) fan speed when this happens?

There are a number of programs (e.g. GPU-Z) that can help you with checking these parameters.

Once you post these, perhaps other members or me can help you.

Best,
G
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