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1141  Bitcoin / Hardware wallets / How was trezor built? on: August 05, 2013, 09:43:40 PM
How was trezor built?  (like raspberry pi, the screen, etc.)

thanks!
1142  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Problem with Cryptsy (again) on: August 05, 2013, 09:42:32 PM
I've sent an amount of XPM about two hours ago and it doesn't reflect in my balance at the moment...

I know that usually it take a while, but, XPM should be checked almost instantly (well.. perhaps it takes 10 or 15 minutes, but sure not 2 hours)

Someone have a similar problem?... or it happens only to me?  Undecided

Thanks

Cryptsy usually has fast deposits for me.  Have you tried contacting support?
1143  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [DVC]DevCoin - Official Thread - Moderated on: August 05, 2013, 09:41:55 PM
My 2 DVC on the change in payment based on page views.  I haven't worked through the math, but it looks like if I write 1000 words and no one ever reads it, I would get 0.75 share for it.  Correct?  If a lot of people read my work, then I get 1.25 shares.  It strikes me as a decent compromise between rewarding the writing itself (unconditionally) and rewarding writing that many others like.  

Something that needs to be considered.  Rewarding by page views is also rewarding based on author's ability to market his or her work.  Authors who do not market well for whatever reason would lose on the page views unless they arrange to have others do the marketing.  Authors who market well will be rewarded by extra shares regardless of whether or not their writing is objectively better.  This isn't necessarily bad, just something to be aware of.  3/5 of the potential earnings are unaffected by this.

The one thing I would like to have for sure is that when this formula kicks in, that our earnings are shown on the various files that we already use to determine this.  So, if I'm getting .75 share for something, I'd like that to be indicated so that I can plan to write more or market harder during that round.  I can work with this as long as I know what to expect.

thanks!

That's a good idea.  Would a script be able to write on users talk pages the stats during that month?
(like word count, shares, popularity, etc.)

Wikipedia has some of those.  (but they are known as bots)
1144  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [DVC]DevCoin - Official Thread - Moderated on: August 05, 2013, 09:40:31 PM
As suggested, I've put up an article about investing in DVC in lieu of trying to sell it. It includes sample earnings from the data at cryptostocks.com.

http://www.devtome.com/doku.php?id=devcoin_stock_purchases

Is the d.evco.in site down?
I can't seem to download the devtome_earnings_26.csv file.

Try this http://devtome.com/doku.php?id=devcoin_block_explorer

The same thing happened to me today. http://darkgamex.ch:2751/chain/DevCoin is working fine right now.

I still can't download the file!
I need it for an article.
1145  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [DVC]DevCoin - Official Thread - Moderated on: August 05, 2013, 09:39:22 PM
I just made this banner, would I be eligible to earn marketing income if I used this on my site?


Or would it have to link to devtome?
1146  Economy / Services / Re: 0.4 BTC / month free (Best payouts - NO POSTING NEEDED & Updated :) on: August 05, 2013, 09:36:35 PM
This looks nice.  May I join?
1v.io/smeagol is my inputs url.
My address is 1GGqLPJZ1apckPgSbzb1zdKFbKQFihBZPr

Thanks TF!  Smiley

Edit: by the way, is my signature acceptable?
It has other things on it.

Edit 2:  Since I started today, my term is scheduled to end on September 4th.

By the way, is it paid based on posts today or posts at the end of the cycle?
1147  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: [Contest] DailyBit.net Logo creation contest Cool Prizes on: August 05, 2013, 09:27:39 PM
Here's another.  Since the guys above like the sketch style so much, I decided to make one.  Can be edited to your specifications.



XPM: ATR11eSYv9NJ8jCAtTXyMJcuosiJK8Z4PQ
1148  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [DVC]DevCoin - Official Thread - Moderated on: August 05, 2013, 09:04:02 PM
As suggested, I've put up an article about investing in DVC in lieu of trying to sell it. It includes sample earnings from the data at cryptostocks.com.

http://www.devtome.com/doku.php?id=devcoin_stock_purchases

Is the d.evco.in site down?
I can't seem to download the devtome_earnings_26.csv file.
1149  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Anarchy and libertarianism are for a civilized species. on: August 05, 2013, 02:37:06 AM
We live in a time period where we have access to any sort of knowledge within seconds at any point in time, almost anywhere there's a large number of people living.

And then we use it to look at cats Tongue

Ancient Egypt would be proud.



Cheesy

The more things change, the more they stay the same...  Undecided



I couldn't agree more with the OP. Technology has evolved, humanity has not.

Lol
1150  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [DVC]DevCoin - Official Thread - Moderated on: August 05, 2013, 02:36:29 AM
We now have page view information from google analytics, so the devtome.py script has been modified and
Popularity is based only on the current round. For example, if you write an article and it is not popular during the time it's written but it does start spiking up in the next round, there is no real benefit to you in that. All that counts is what happens with the current articles in the current round.

Ok.  Now it'll be really hard for power writers (50k word +) to earn excessive amounts!
1151  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Growthcoin - GRW | PoW/PoS - 100% annual interest! | Let your coin grow! on: August 05, 2013, 02:15:35 AM
I wrote an article about Growthcoin on devtome.
http://www.devtome.com/doku.php?id=Growthcoin

I would just like someone to confirm that everything correct and up to date, thanks. Smiley
1152  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Earnings According to Popularity on: August 05, 2013, 02:06:39 AM
We now have page view information from google analytics, so the devtome.py script has been modified and popular writers will get paid more per word than unpopular writers. From:
http://www.devtome.com/doku.php?id=earn_devcoins_by_writing#earnings_per_word

"The earnings are calculated according to the popularity of the writer's articles according to google analytics. The number of unique page views are divided by the number of words, then the root of that is taken and the roots of all the writers are normalized. That earnings multipler is multiplied by a goal seeked revenue neutralizing multiplier, then bounded from 0.75 to 1.25, and multiplied by the words to obtain the number of generation shares. To summarize, an unpopular writer will get 0.75 generation shares per thousand words, an average writer will get around a share per thousand words, and a popular writer will get 1.25 shares per thousand words."

The earnings multiplier is from the fourth root of the page views divided by the number of words and it is bounded to a narrow range this round because the payment rule has just been changed. In the next round, round 27, the earnings multiplier will be from the square root of the views over the words, and the multiplier will bounded to the wider range of 0.500001 to 1.499999. I'm using 0.500001 as a lower limit so that even unpopular writers who only write a share will at least get something after the multiplication and rounding. The unique page views will be taken from the four days just before the earnings calculation. The earnings multiplier is only calculated for the writers who have earned at least a share.

The most popular topics were cryptocurrencies:
https://github.com/Unthinkingbit/charity/blob/master/devtome_analytics_26.csv

After running the script, I found that some writers actually didn't get any page views at all, and got the minimum 0.75 multiplier:
https://raw.github.com/Unthinkingbit/charity/master/devtome_26.csv

The above devtome_26 file is just there so people can see popularity and earnings multipliers, it will be calculated officially in about a week. Some of the new writers don't have any page views yet, but will when the script is run next week. For people who write books or screenplays, to boost their page views I recommend making a page for each chapter or scene.


Does popularity roll over?
For example, if you are popular one round but not so much the next, will last round's popularity prevent you from going to low?
1153  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [DVC]DevCoin - Official Thread - Moderated on: August 05, 2013, 01:57:29 AM
In marketing income, what qualifies as a post? Anything on the devcoin thread or an ad thread on bitcointalk about devcoin?
1154  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [DVC]DevCoin - Official Thread - Moderated on: August 04, 2013, 12:42:26 AM
I suppose you *could* call it collated. But if it already exists verbatim and digitally anyway, what's the point? In my opinion, the same rules for copyright should apply. If the changes to an existing document are substantial enough to be worth a reprint, then it's not plagiarism, but there needs to be a demonstration of actual work in the text.

Example, the entry at http://www.devtome.com/doku.php?id=be_inspirated is an exact quote in full (not partial matches or a citation or quote) of a Google Book http://goo.gl/YFnW3u.

Source is not "original," the source is an exact duplicate of an existing source.

Is that plagarism or did the user write that? O.o

It can be two different issues.

One is plagiarism, with intent (and arguably even without conscious thought) to distribute another work as your own.

The other is original material, but included in Devtome without the proper citation to existing versions. I was guilty of the latter when I published my own work that existed elsewhere, but I was not clear when I cited the source. I had just left it as "Source: Original" but I changed that to "laos_file - Source: Book Review, Laos File by Dale Dye, WordPress" and now the problem is removed.

I was guilty of violating the first in a way also...I wrote a book about ten years ago. At the time, some of the materials I used were incredibly difficult to find even for researchers in the field of study. I located copies eventually, transcribed them and then included them as appendices in my book. Well, it's the internet, right? So, within days of posting that book to Devtome, an eagled-eye Tomer must have scanned it. The problem with that is that I was accused of a 100% copy of someone else's work. Well it wasn't. It was about 30 pages of a 300 page book, or so. Material from an article that just couldn't easily be located. And, I did provide citations of those sources within the document so that there would be no confusion of me claiming other's work as my own. My reasoning was accepted by the Devtome community. I offered to remove all the appendices if anyone had even one issue with it remaining. Someone did. So they are gone.

That's the background on how I'm looking at the issue. Sometimes it just has to go case by case, but sometimes it can be pretty clear: If you wrote it elsewhere, just include that information. If it's collated, then say so. But if it already exists *and* it's by someone else? Well then I think that crosses the line.

Thank for the explanation.  This "Source: Original" and "Collated" stuff is confusing!
1155  Economy / Digital goods / Re: [WTB]Newegg Giftcard for BTC on: August 04, 2013, 12:29:45 AM
If you want to use escrow you need to pay the fee.
Also, newer members must be willing to send first.
1156  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: [Contest] DailyBit.net Logo creation contest Cool Prizes on: August 03, 2013, 11:51:35 PM
Entry is here:
The modernly-styled "DAILYBIT" header shows the modernity and ease of bitcoin, while the "hipster" font contrasts that with an easygoing style, showing the "hip"-ness of the dailybit deals.  How do you like it?


My primecoin addy: ATR11eSYv9NJ8jCAtTXyMJcuosiJK8Z4PQ
What are you waiting for?  Grin

If you need something added to it just tell me and I'll do it.
1157  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [DVC]DevCoin - Official Thread - Moderated on: August 03, 2013, 10:44:34 PM
I suppose you *could* call it collated. But if it already exists verbatim and digitally anyway, what's the point? In my opinion, the same rules for copyright should apply. If the changes to an existing document are substantial enough to be worth a reprint, then it's not plagiarism, but there needs to be a demonstration of actual work in the text.

Example, the entry at http://www.devtome.com/doku.php?id=be_inspirated is an exact quote in full (not partial matches or a citation or quote) of a Google Book http://goo.gl/YFnW3u.

Source is not "original," the source is an exact duplicate of an existing source.

Is that plagarism or did the user write that? O.o
1158  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [DVC]DevCoin - Official Thread - Moderated on: August 03, 2013, 10:16:28 PM

Small articles are not an issue, so long as they are not stolen material and are not gibberish. The problem with the one linked above is that it is not his material to be taking credit for, yet he is trying to earn money off it.

Edit: just noticed the first question as well. No, you can't take their material, edit it and claim it as collated. Collated is for when you write an article based on another one, with quotes and such (SPORADICALLY). Basically it's the same rule as plagiarism. If it's plagiarism, it's wrong.

Ok, thank you for the clarification.  Now onto more writing!  Smiley
1159  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Devtome is taking the piss now with UN Original content being claimed on: August 03, 2013, 10:10:59 PM
Ok I am starting to get rather pissed off here and usually I don't get angry easily but more and more devtome seems to be paying out all the dvc to writers and the more i look the more there is not original content on there but it is being claimed as.

Here is a clear cut example...

User makalu has posted on his userpage : http://www.devtome.com/doku.php?id=wiki:user:makalu
Original articles on a number of pages.

The one I was particularly interested in was of course the listing about ASCMDVCPT of which I help do the admin work for and have direct involement in... yet I see that the article http://www.devtome.com/doku.php?id=ascmdvcpt is just a copy paste of the listing I helped write that is on cryptostocks https://cryptostocks.com/securities/39

hey it only small articles i know but nothing has been added in terms of better content, and the work is NOT original

Either the admins have missed this or they are not doing their job properly... or the users are unaware of the difference between original content and collated content and NOT ALLOWED copy paste content. Or a combination of it all...

Admins responsible for checking content please respond to this post before Unthinkingbit does as that will just show to me that you are not doing the job required of you.  I have PM'd the 3 admins so they know about this post.

FuzzyBear

If I combined all of his small ebook articles into a larger one and edited it, would that qualify as Collated?
By the way, I've been making small (< 1000 words) articles, is that OK?

Thank you!

By the way, what do you think of this banner?
1160  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: dual booting windows 7 and a mining distro using 2 ssds on: August 03, 2013, 06:39:32 PM
I guess my question is, why are you wanting to dual boot?  Why arent you just running your miners on Win7?  Curious.

linux is better for mining.
I'm using windows for work.
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