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341  Economy / Auctions / Re: 500 GH/S BFL Mini rig unit number 2 (already received unit number 1) on: August 21, 2013, 02:52:06 PM
got your second unit yet?
342  Economy / Auctions / Re: avalon 4 module 110G , in hand on: August 21, 2013, 12:26:16 PM

I doubt difficulty will increase 24 TIMES by march next year (from 51MM to 1765MM).. An increased percentage scale, just doesnt work.. it will be steep now, but has to settle sometime soon, as avalon are not really going to deliver many more chips after the 200k sent, and who knows when other new gen2 hardwares starts hashing.
343  Economy / Auctions / Re: [WTS] 81GH Avalon ASIC Batch 2 on: August 21, 2013, 12:22:53 PM
to prove ownership to serious buyer, you can also send to his address on eligius for 1-2hrs.. that at least shows control of the hash power..
344  Economy / Auctions / Re: [AUCTION] Selling website 100000 visits in last 3 months on: August 20, 2013, 07:59:27 PM
pm some google analytics please.
345  Economy / Auctions / Re: [AUCTION] Avalon Batch 3: 1 Module starting bid: 1 BTC! on: August 20, 2013, 12:19:39 PM
hence idea of new 24 hr auction.. this isnt fair to others..
7.5 btc for a broken module. Cry

Can you explain how it is unfair?


If an auction doenst have an end date? In my opinion an auction has a start and end date. And a BIN price..
The unfairness comes in place when bids are accepted, then fall through, and the property loses value.. and in the end i couldve bought it days ago and had it in hand.
But it seems like auctions are very freely defined by posters full discretion. And that makes it difficult to be part/bid.
346  Economy / Auctions / Re: [AUCTION] Avalon Batch 3: 1 Module starting bid: 1 BTC! on: August 20, 2013, 05:57:29 AM
hence idea of new 24 hr auction.. this isnt fair to others..
7.5 btc for a broken module. Cry
347  Economy / Auctions / Re: [WTS] 81GH Avalon ASIC Batch 2 on: August 19, 2013, 01:46:13 PM
7 days.. then we are already on next difficulty level..
348  Economy / Auctions / Re: [AUCTION] 1 module WORKING Avalon Starting bid: 10 BTC! on: August 19, 2013, 01:01:15 PM
its only the board right? 24 hour auction?


yes, only the hashing board. If you need other board like control board, pdu & 703N router, you'll have to pay extra money.
48h auction, but if you give me an exciting offer, I will end the aution at once.


John K escrow and ship to EU ok?
349  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [POLL/VOTE] What should Avalon do with our past due orders? on: August 19, 2013, 12:57:58 PM
Yes at this stage, coupons wont do any good on a corporation that has already lost our trust.
Refund 30-40% btc to all groupbuyers and we can use those funds towards a trusted source.
350  Economy / Auctions / Re: [AUCTION] 1 module WORKING Avalon Starting bid: 10 BTC! on: August 19, 2013, 12:51:40 PM
its only the board right? 24 hour auction?
351  Economy / Auctions / Re: [AUCTION] 1 module WORKING Avalon Starting bid: 10 BTC! on: August 19, 2013, 12:15:45 PM
batch 1-2 or batch 3? i believe they are not compatible.
352  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Value Estimate of Avalon Miner today on: August 19, 2013, 12:00:31 PM
I want to know the value of an Avalon miner.

I used this calculator with presets for a 3 module miner.
An additional step should be to discount each future week to the present value using some interest rate.  I have not done that step.

This gives me a value of about 70 BTC for an Avalon.

I am sure that many people would use different numbers for this.  For the power, I used 650 W * 80 GH / 65 GH --> 800 W, as it is overclocked.

I'd like to hear what other's think.


I think your model is too conservative.

Again.. who knows..

So, in 25 weeks, we will see 24x current difficulty? Quite surely, before that, many inbetween miners, that has been hosted on offices for free but finally only doing pennies will shut off. Along with other miners shutting off aswell.
I dont believe the increase can be that steep even if half the promised hardwares start shipping. (from 50,810,339 to 1,226,438,065 in 25 weeks (6 months!..) but anyway, we will live to see the proof for sure!

adding 70M per month will look something like this:
http://mining.thegenesisblock.com/a/fc54d24eaa
roi in 210 days on 50 BTC..
353  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: Avalon For sale! 65BTC on: August 19, 2013, 11:41:22 AM
ALL PEOPLE BUY A AVALON TODAY LOST MONEY FOREVER

http://mining.thegenesisblock.com/a/7967656121

You are a silly person. Stop trolling the threads.
How do you know they lost money? your calculations are completely wrong..
there is roi..
http://mining.thegenesisblock.com/a/ded3f84bb6

And how long do you calculate the big percentage increase to stay? let people do their own calculations and investments.
Just because you didnt get your blade sold for 13BTC, doesnt mean you need to pester and ruin business for everyone else.
354  Economy / Auctions / Re: [AUCTION] Avalon Batch 3: 1 Module starting bid: 1 BTC! on: August 18, 2013, 08:43:08 PM
so how long you give him?
355  Economy / Auctions / Re: [AUCTION] Avalon Batch 3: 1 Module starting bid: 1 BTC! on: August 18, 2013, 04:00:43 PM
hmmm...
I suggest you post a new auction, 24 hours..
356  Economy / Auctions / Re: [AUCTION] Avalon Batch 3: 1 Module starting bid: 1 BTC! on: August 18, 2013, 03:59:52 PM
hmmm...
357  Economy / Auctions / Re: [AUCTION] Avalon 3 module batch 2/2 80+ Ghash/s - from Europe on: August 18, 2013, 03:58:07 PM
good ok. following. spoke to John K abt escrow. seems fine.
358  Economy / Auctions / Re: [AUCTION] Avalon 3 module batch 2/2 80+ Ghash/s - from Europe on: August 18, 2013, 02:30:44 PM
when does it end?
why no timer?
359  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Incoming Avalon News 8/9/2013 on: August 18, 2013, 02:17:21 PM

Would anyone be silly enough to order a BFL ASIC now? That would of course be a BIG risk.

No I wouldn't give them a cent at the moment for either of their ASIC lines.

You can simply just post facts about BFL and anyone would see the obvious BIG risk of doing business with them at the moment.

Nice, your not BFL sockpuppet, but this is Avalon fail thread, BFL already has few such threads  Wink
Indeed - I didn't bring up the subject here ...
But I wont usually (though I do sometimes) ignore people who post lies about me.

Jealousy comes in different faces Kano.. Of course, you should not pay for products that manufacturers wants to be supported by your software. And liking a fully working and delivered hardware is one thing. Getting it another. I also believe the bfl to be very solid, if you could get one for a reasonable price on hand.
I think your doing a great job. Myself are waiting for a bunch of bitburners made.. whenever that will become delivered.
360  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [BFL-Chip Groupbuy] $27,5/chip 50% - BTC,PayPal,SEPA - 420 sold, 0/100 batch #4 on: August 18, 2013, 10:11:46 AM
let me know if you know anyone selling 16 chips minimum from batch 1 of yours.
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