Personally I think they may have got swamped with the mini usb eruptor sales etc with lowering the price.
ASICminer is responsible for the block erupters, not Avalon. Two separate groups. I believe you are wrong. Friedcat = Asicminer, producer of Avalon chips. Previously produced Blade miners and Avalon miners (batch 1-3). Currently producing Block erupters based on their own Avalon chips. There are some upcoming avalon blade miners from what i've seen, but i hope they ship the chips before.. Avalon and Asicminer are two different ASIC companies. Aha hm!! So how come Asicminer are not selling their chips in batches? They would surely make more money that way? I guess it explains the different in megahash on one single avalon and one single block erupter.  |
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Personally I think they may have got swamped with the mini usb eruptor sales etc with lowering the price.
ASICminer is responsible for the block erupters, not Avalon. Two separate groups. I believe you are wrong. Friedcat = Asicminer, producer of Avalon chips. Previously produced Blade miners and Avalon miners (batch 1-3). Currently producing Block erupters based on their own Avalon chips. There are some upcoming avalon blade miners from what i've seen, but i hope they ship the chips before.. |
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Okay I'm going to be the bold one here and ask the difficult question.
Will you handle refund requests at all?
I'm seeing no movement in the Avalon bullshit at all, and all there is left is the difficulty going way up while not a single batch of chips has been shipped to this group buy. Seeing as I'm in batch 4, I dont believe I'll see my chips before the end of this year.
So yes, I'd rather have a refund on my BTC, so that is my question now; will you handle refunds?
Since all of US are buying in a GROUP BUY together with steamboat from Avalon the chips. I doubt that steamboat feels any interest in purchasing your chips in batch 4. That being said, look at the marketplace here on the forum. There are people purchasing and selling chips in future batches. Look how a market listing is done by someone selling their pre ordered chips. And make your own if you want out. |
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Is there any disadvantage running a k64 as 4 single k16?
Ok you need 4 USB-cable but is there a speed decrease?
Not different. a k64 is just 4 k16, not cut up into 4 boards but kept as 1. They are connected between each board, not by usb but by a ribbon cable. All you will need is one usb cable, and i think you can connect/chain up to 8 boards in one ribbon cable or was it even 16 boards. |
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Are they also waiting until all of the batch 3 avalons ship, to be fair to their own customers.
Annoying but understandable.
Thing is, Miners batch 3 by avalon, is a big pain in the ass for them. Miners for sure takes longer to make than shipping tens of thousands of chips (and imagine having direct consumer support for a miner, instead of having one client, purchasing 10.000 chips and supporting of that instead). I am sure this is the last batch of miners they will ever ship (aside from the very clever Blockerupter USB that will never generate any profit to anyone but asicminer who are avalon or correct me if im wrong here). That being said, i dont think they are prioritising one or the others. Factories making chips, still produce chips, and factories making boards and cases, are still doing that aswell. It is however odd, that it takes them so long to finalize the batch 3 avalon miners.. To clarify, i dont think staff busy making miners, would be occupied in making chips and packing them in a batch of 10.000 or vice versa. |
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Unclaimed doesn't mean unowned. You are basically suggesting that Burnin/Zefir steal chips and give them to someone else.
I don't want to steal anything from anyone, but if these guys changed their minds, dropped out of the game and/or bitcoin completely or just are not interested in topic anymore, there is no reason to shut the chips (which will be useless in some months anyways) away for the next couple of years, because they maybe could come back one day and state their claim. The same about refunds, nobody knows if these adresses are still in use. If someone shows up later and can prove his claim, there will be a way to handle this. Either by zefir, SebastianJu, burnin or others. If they remain unclaimed and gather dust in a corner, so be it. They aren't yours, so it isn't for you to decide their fate. Donate your own miner to him, or gather a group of people to donate a miner to him. I would donate one device to a developer, who deserve it. Why not. But not for somebody who is replying to you to "fuck off" when you ask for something, like kano. Of course he will say "fuck off". Is someone say that Kano only want to free hardware and nothing else... I would also say "fuck off" to everyone who uses MY software i developed free of charge. You cannot deny that: 1) CGMiner is currently one of the best by support, easy of use, supporting very different hardware, have much settings to control hardware 2) Kano is working for free 3) The only "payment" Kano gets - is free hardware and donations from community 4) With hardware in hand supporting it will be 4.1) Faster 4.2) Easier 4.3) Can test different settings 4.4) It can be tuned to be more stable 4.5) Kano does not need to "call","send message" of everything else if he want to do some tests with unit. Also its in developers interest that new hardware is supported by mining software. I think that its normal policy from software developer and in this situation i would support Kano. If you want things for your time and code You DONT USE THE FUCKING GNU PUBLIC LICENSE giving something for free, and asking for something for free are entirely different things. is that difficult to understand?! |
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Thx I tried to PM to, but SB seems busy.
I chosed "none" on the assemble option. I'm on batch 5 and already ordered and paid by burnin.
Hope I can change the assembly option.
Plz PM me, when u know more, I will do the same for you...
Greets mastah
hey, ive got 140 in batch 5, to be sent to burnin aswell.. if we tell steamboat, we share the shipping.. i do think burnin will tell steamboat aswell, as he sees all orders and our batches. lets see what happends. Just curious. What are the significant differences between Steamboat's and Burnin's assemblies? Steamboat is using Klondike (16 chips) opensource just very recently finalised its design (By bkkcoins) and yes, its hosted in USA or delivered from usa should you order your boards for hosting yourself. Burnin is using his own design (bitburner x 10 chips, xx 20 chips) and was finalized quite a while back. It will not be hosted by him, but sent to yourself for your own delivery. If you are within EU, Burning will already have added the VAT on the boards, should you buy from Steamboat, it will be added by customs, whatever value is declared on them. Its down to personal preference which one you prefer i would say. |
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Thx I tried to PM to, but SB seems busy.
I chosed "none" on the assemble option. I'm on batch 5 and already ordered and paid by burnin.
Hope I can change the assembly option.
Plz PM me, when u know more, I will do the same for you...
Greets mastah
hey, ive got 140 in batch 5, to be sent to burnin aswell.. if we tell steamboat, we share the shipping.. i do think burnin will tell steamboat aswell, as he sees all orders and our batches. lets see what happends. |
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Zefir and all chip buyers, please take note the way burnin is taking orders by your username and wallet (he abandon the message singing method...). These info are all out in the open so it poses risk for somebody to stole your chips (they paid for assembly with your chips buying info and have it ships to them...). I dunno how burnin will verify info with group buys organizer so you guys have to work it out to prevents against this...SebastianJu has the same concern afaik.
If this is your fear. Have the chips shipped to your home, and then forward them yourself to burnin.. Then you will not have any questions of chips being yours. |
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site closed until the issues are resolved.
Look at prestashop. it could handle more load.. |
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What happens in the - hopefully unlikely - event that Avalon can’t deliver the chips or they get delayed indefinitely?
This will maybe not happen
Update: 1st batch shippedI got a a status update from Avalon - the first batch of chips has been shipped, including DHL tracking number. It should get delivered this week. Important reminder: If you have chips ordered from the first batch and did not yet enter your shipping address and locked it - do it soon! Orders without finalized shipping data will be postponed. Hello! I am interested in purchasing chips from batch 1 if someone is ready to hand over a few chips. Say 100 of them. Pm me your price. I am in steamboats group buy, but nr 5.. Zefir, if i find one willing to sell chips, would you be willing to change his address to mine based on his acceptance? If this is the wrong thread for this, where should i post it? |
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EMC sensitivity? oh boy! thats something you definitely not want with your mining board.
My contractor has already stocked all needed parts, 1st. batch of pcb's should arrive next week.
Fridge starts and K16 reset itself, laptop USB port generated noise lead 10% hw errors, but raspi usb port "only" ~1-2% hw erros. But you can read more in kolondike thread from pages ~80 -> (but do more important jobs first so we get boards  Btw have your PCB's bottom full painted? I mean have chip thermal vias solder only? (Solder is better heat conductor than paint). Your three test PCB have full painted bottom. Avalon boards have paint free squares. Please read after page 80 yourself, page 123 to be exact, 0.6% stable at 340mhz.. But its very irrelevant to this thread, the only similarities between the boards are use of Avalon chips and custom CgMiner drivers.. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=190731.2440 |
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But I do like the idea and would like to offer that. I guess in the end, if I can't get parts then neither can my customers on their own, most likely, so they don't really lose out. How does everyone feel about that? Pre-sell kits and then see where the chips fall?
Sign me up please. I understand the realities of someone trying to source parts, especially in quantity to make kits and I understand you're not a warehouse. I would gladly send the BTC and wait for your kits to come in. when they do come in, I'd be taking a lot of time to assemble them myself anyway since it's been years since I've actually soldered anything serious. If I was in a hurry I'd let one of the group buys assembly houses take care of everything for me. Right now I'm on Steamboat's groupbuy and let his guys put it all together. But the next batch I'd like to do myself as there will be less rush. i dont recommend you doing it yourself, even with experience. these boards are done best by machines. |
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Avalon delivers chips to anyone who orders the 10,000 chips.. I understand frustration who from people who are in avalons mining rig batch 3 and still not received orders. I think rigs take longer to make than chips though. That being said, batch 3 orders from avalon should be starting to be delivered any time.
The batch 3 from avalon is not anyway connected to any groupbuys by people on forums. They made 3 batches of full mining rigs, which they have said they will never do again but focus on making chips instead.
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afaik the klondike is even more susceptible to this because all 16 chips are organized in one chain.
Are you sure about this? Im pretty sure BKKCoins wrote that he changed this. So that the board can run with one chip alone too. If chips break all other chips remain working. But i might misunderstood this. I think that all boards basically support running on only one chip, thats how they were able to test them without receiving all sample chips in the beginning. But, if you add chips after, then they become part of the natural chain and delivers together. (thus breaking the chain if one breaks before a working chip). Also, the percentages of broken chips should be very low. |
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Then... what about breaking asic-chips? Will 10 chips stop working when one breaks? And does this one has to be replaced in order to let all chips run again?
Thanks!
I could be wrong but I believe he said before that if one chip stops working it will only affect one side of the board (10 chips). So if a chip stops working on an XX board you will still have one side working at least. Yes, which i believe would not be the case on the Klondike boards. Would it be possible to only have that very one chip stop working only instead (and even indicated, what ships are delivering and not so it can be replaced)? i think that is the question. Which i also would like.. |
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I'm just waiting on BitPay to activate my merchant account for the web store to be open. I have Paypal hooked up but I'd rather have both going initially. Oh, I should probably test Paypal first too. I have a custom domain too, and tried to get OpenBitcoinStore to activate that but they seem to be asleep over there or too busy. Has OpenBitcoinStore been abandoned maybe?
Look at PrestaShop also. its a fully free webshop, which has plugins for both paypal and bitcoins for free.. there you handle stock, shipping costs, everything. |
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Case closed.  [/quote] I concurr. He wont ship someone elses chips to you, just because you ordered your boards earlier. And as you said, if multiple batches arrive same day, they are delivered by your place in order queue.. |
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Also, i dont believe it to be interesting to reinvent the wheel. Raspberry Pi is a perfectly cheap solution for running CGminer from out of. It will be much more expensive to have this on each and every board..
Ethernet mac chip for pic32mx7xx cost ~0.99$ (in reel), rj45 socket less 0.5$, some xtal, res, caps etc and ~2cm² PCB area. Say total max 4$. RJ45 socket can leave unpopulated so customer can solder it if need. Other parts pnp machine lay board <0.1s. One board can act master and chain other 16. I see raspi ~50$ vs. ~4$ (plus onetime code/firmware generation = port cgminer to mips and some micro tcp stack). If burning boards are done say 2000pcs and every 16 needs raspi -> 125 x 45$=5600$. I can't say is it enough to modify board now. Atleast it reduce one board + wires when suitable firmware are done. I see it good option, not reinvent wheel. A raspberry pi is $25. and its a fully fledged computer running on archlinux, you connect your chain of Bitburners to the USB port, and cgminer on the PI does the work for you. Where would cgminer be running in your option? I definetly see it as an option, just not a necessary one for me at all. Especially, when he starts shipping, the difficulty will be way up, and second generation chips would already be taking orders. Keep it simple! |
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