I have had my Q running for a week now. Solo mining to my FutureBit node on Standard and getting 78.75T at 1410W the best share so far is 154B ( I also run 2 Nano3 on a different electric circuit)
Bought it off Amazon because free shipping $1839.00 plus tax but got 4% back on my CC.
Sounds good, please feel free to let us know if you need any further support. I guess my one question right now, is there a video or instruction on how to clean the filter? Does the front face just clip off? |
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The Avalon Q is the best home miner in my opinion, due to low noise, good efficiency and can be run off 120v. Very happy with my purchase.
I have mine running upside down to keep the heat away from the psu
running on standard very quiet, 78.75 TH/s
running on super still quiet but louder 92.63 TH/s (when I say quiet It's nothing like the fan noise I use to get from my Bitmian S9)
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I have had my Q running for a week now. Solo mining to my FutureBit node on Standard and getting 78.75T at 1410W the best share so far is 154B ( I also run 2 Nano3 on a different electric circuit)
Bought it off Amazon because free shipping $1839.00 plus tax but got 4% back on my CC.
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Is there any way to remotely access the OS to monitor stats or to otherwise change settings? e.g., when traveling or away from home
If you have extra PC/Laptop which is connected to the internet and can be run 24/7 you can try Chrome Remote Desktop, which you can connect to through your mobile remotely. Then access your PC/laptop on your phone and use the IP of the unit to access the dashboard. You can check its stats and change settings while you are away from your home. I use a free version of TeamViewer and leave a laptop running. |
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Won one for the plebs today using an Apollo BTC Full node, Apollo BTC standard, Apollo II standard and one Bitmain S19kpro. [2025-03-21 04:31:00.699] Possible block solve diff 393692033929762.687500 !
[2025-03-21 04:31:01.278] BLOCK ACCEPTED!
[2025-03-21 04:31:01.308] Solved and confirmed block 888737 by bc1qa6y279yprwtuthnw0xqu6rzhrf8d6uujcdh9xd.S19k
[2025-03-21 04:31:01.308] User bc1qa6y279yprwtuthnw0xqu6rzhrf8d6uujcdh9xd:{"hashrate1m": "82.6T", "hashrate5m": "93.8T", "hashrate1hr": "102T", "hashrate1d": "57.4T", "hashrate7d": "57.9T", "shares": 76761530792, "authorised": 1735251121}
[2025-03-21 04:31:01.308] Worker bc1qa6y279yprwtuthnw0xqu6rzhrf8d6uujcdh9xd.S19k:{"hashrate1m": "80.8T", "hashrate5m": "86.3T", "hashrate1hr": "92.1T", "hashrate1d": "49T", "hashrate7d": "49.4T"}
[2025-03-21 04:31:01.308] Block solved after 104363805084 shares at 0.1% diff That is great news. Thank you for the report. Apollo nodes can submit valid block solutions in time when solved. Congratulations. Whose next??? |
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#881423 FutureBit block! Looks to be the same one that hit a block before, #867760 also it looks like they are mining with a lot of miners thru it. Hashrate (24h) 5.1 EH/s
So they did kind of a Bitcoin-block telethon where several miners pointed their hash to this guy's Apollo node and that's how they hit a block. Don't have the details, but it was mentioned on BitsBeTrippin youtube video just released on solo mining. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICZbOyuLHY0Theres power in numbers and clearly it works. Ya know, one could suggest we build a telegram team. Donate our hash to one person and when someone hits the next person in line gets the hash... so on and so on. Its probably the only real way to compete with farms who hit every 10 mins. Sounds like a good idea, but isn't going to work for many reasons. Is there any mathematical or scientific logic that makes you claim such a statement? Hard or difficult yes, however what took place last week proves it can work. Hard none the less. I didnt suggest it was easy or simple. However the theory has been proven to work not once but twice by the same person. Simply put, look at how many Apollo's have been sold and how many have hit a block? (zero other than the one that had a lot of outside hash thrown at it) Grouping all the Apollo's together will not change that, and with odds of hundred of years of hitting one block, who gets the first one? Who gets to pick that first person, and how many would stick it out knowing they are mining for someone else for years? Then what is to keep everyone mining together after 5-10-25 years and not hitting anything? No way would it all stay together as a group. You're trying to structure a pool with it all going to one person, and not enough years for everyone in the group to be that person. I have hit 2 blocks since 2013 mining on pools, my first was on Slush and then on another pool, both times I only got my % like everyone else mining on the pool. If I wasn't doing so good on my daily pay I would have tried solo and wish I had. Today is so much different than back then. I have also been in small groups of 10 that rented hash and got lucky to hit a couple blocks, about 7-8 years ago, but just did some more a few months back and didn't hit anything. |
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#881423 FutureBit block! Looks to be the same one that hit a block before, #867760 also it looks like they are mining with a lot of miners thru it. Hashrate (24h) 5.1 EH/s
So they did kind of a Bitcoin-block telethon where several miners pointed their hash to this guy's Apollo node and that's how they hit a block. Don't have the details, but it was mentioned on BitsBeTrippin youtube video just released on solo mining. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICZbOyuLHY0Theres power in numbers and clearly it works. Ya know, one could suggest we build a telegram team. Donate our hash to one person and when someone hits the next person in line gets the hash... so on and so on. Its probably the only real way to compete with farms who hit every 10 mins. Sounds like a good idea, but isn't going to work for many reasons. |
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#881423 FutureBit block! Looks to be the same one that hit a block before, #867760 also it looks like they are mining with a lot of miners thru it. Hashrate (24h) 5.1 EH/s
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Cleaning dust off the APOLLO II.
It's been 3 months since I received my Apollo II. I have mine turned sideways for better airflow through the bottom, which it does. The top vents are clogged from dust accumulation. I suspect that would get worse faster if I had the top vents pointed up.
Shut down my node, got the Air compressor blower and blew the dust back out. Lots of fine dust was blown out the top and bottom. No noticeable cooling difference. I thought there might be but the unit seems to be cooling well even with a small coating of dust. Now good for another 3 months.
running a fresh flash of v2.0.6 does seem more stable than v2.0.6 as long as I don't load up a bunch of other stuff In the browser. And don't try to restore saved settings as this wipes the settings installed in v.2.0.6. When I did this my node became less stable with the settings I saved from v.2.0.5 includes reverting back to 32 node connections. On v2.0.5 when I upped the nodes to 64 the system would crash. Not under v2.0.6.
I also have mine on its side with the large vent and switch pointed up, also sitting on top of a laptop cooler. I notice a few days ago the dust on the top vents and used my vacuum to suck it away. I am still using v.2.0.5 and I have set mine to 64 node connection without a problem. It will bounce between 63-64. (Just checked and it's connected to 3 other Apollo nodes right now) |
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I have a question, is it possible to have a miner solo mine to my node that is not on my local network?
I have ddns setup on my router and port forwarding setup for port 3333
The issue I see right now is when I check if port 3333 is open, it said it’s closed.
I have friends who have miners, we all want to point our miners to a single solo node
Is that even possible?
Yes it should be if your router/firewall is set to allow it. But I think that is why we have to use 8333 port forward is it allows the other nodes to connect to our node? I am sure there are others hee that understand it all better than me |
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Basically in simple terms, think you're playing the lotto and buy one ticket. You have a chance of winning with just one ticket, but your odds are very low, and they increase if you play with more tickets. (the big mining pools and farms are playing with millions of tickets).
So the number of Best Shares that Apollo shows contains only the Best Shares for my latest attempt (last 10 min) or ALL historical Best Shares since I started mining?Now think if they pull the winning numbers first, ( the difference is instead of only 6 numbers the numbers are thousands) and we need to buy random tickets looking for the right combination of numbers before anybody else does. Your one ticket hits 1 number, not enough to win, but that is your best ticket, now you buy another, and you hit 3 numbers, this is still not enough to win, but this is your new best. Every new block @10 mins is a new lotto drawing, your old best number from another block means nothing toward the new block other than a way to show how close you had come to winning. The lower your hash rate is like only buying one ticket compared to the mega farms/pool buying millions of tickets every 10 minutes or for every new block.
When Apollo shows 13B Best Shares, does it mean that I managed to pull 13B winning tickets, that I managed to FIND a Valid Block at the current network difficulty level BUT did it too late?
The winning combination is @the new difficulty number (the winning lotto numbers). Now it's set up to average a block/winner every 10 mins, so if there is a winner faster the difficulty amount of numbers increase to make it harder to find the right numbers and if it goes longer than 10 min the difficulty amount of numbers goes down.
This is clear.
NO its more like you matched 13 Billion of the 103 Trillion numbers needed to win.  So the number of Best Shares that Apollo shows contains only the Best Shares for my latest attempt (last 10 min) or ALL historical Best Shares since I started mining? All historical |
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BestShare=Network Difficulty=90-100T=Block
Thank you for your reply, but honeslty that equation is not clear to me. Does it mean my best share number should be between 90 and 100T to have a chance to find a valid block? And what is the maximum Best Share number that a single Apollo II Full Node Miner can achieve? Basically in simple terms, think you're playing the lotto and buy one ticket. You have a chance of winning with just one ticket, but your odds are very low, and they increase if you play with more tickets. (the big mining pools and farms are playing with millions of tickets). Now think if they pull the winning numbers first, ( the difference is instead of only 6 numbers to win, the winning correct numbers needed are thousands trillions) and we need to buy random tickets looking for the right combination of numbers before anybody else does. Your one ticket hits 1 number, not enough to win, but that is your best ticket, now you buy another, and you hit 3 numbers, this is still not enough to win, but this is your new best. Every new block @10 mins is a new lotto drawing, your old best number from another block means nothing toward the new block other than a way to show how close you had come to winning. The lower your hash rate is like only buying one ticket compared to the mega farms/pool buying millions of tickets every 10 minutes or for every new block. The winning combination is @the new difficulty number (the winning lotto numbers). Now it's set up to average a block/winner every 10 mins, so if there is a winner faster the difficulty amount of numbers increase to make it harder to find the right numbers and if it goes longer than 10 min the difficulty amount of numbers goes down. So as mining hash rate increases, block speed will as well, and it makes the difficulty go up. If mining hash rate drops so will the difficulty to tray and bring the average block finding back to the 10 min. (This adjustment happens only so often) |
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I never saw that e-mail. my experience is the CPU/system temp is fine. System temp doesn't go above 70. Fan does increase on its own. without the miner running. Airflow is the key to cooling and those bottom vents and spacing in original design don't give enough airflow trapping heat causing fan to run faster. All dust falling to the tabletop get sucked into those vents. To lay flat there needs to be at least 1" of space below apollo to allow for proper airflow volume as fan speed increases. The top vents would have to be double the width. Fan speed and sound is always my key indicator to how efficient a system is running. Faster fans means higher temps needing more airflow. In this case constricted airflow needs higher fan speeds.
When my miner is running system temp is 43C with cpu idle and miner at 68-70C. 3600RPM. This higher fan speed seems to cool the cpu fine. Laying the apollo flat in eco mode works fine and the fan speed is quiet enough.
RE running miner outside. Other than ambient humidity and environment. I think the Miner should run fine in turbo mode and keep the miners cool. Fan speed is key. You need faster fan speeds to move the air to cool the miners. For longevity of the miner processor i think those temps should stay below 75C. With antminers those fans would keep the miner temp between 60 and 70C. I ran antminers outside in the garage and they ran great with temps below 60F. Lower fan speeds keeping system cool. Running these fans at full speed helps move maximum airflow but does put stress on those fans causing higher risk of failure. Running at 3600RPM/half speed and the fans can last a long time with very low risk of failure. Always listen to the sounds your fans are making.
Case Study: I just turned my apollo down, lay flat running in balanced mode. Temp increase to 72-74C on the miner. Fan increase 4000 to 4500RPM. No change in system temp 43C. So that email suggestion is a big fail on my apollo II. Dust is building up on top slots after 2 months of running so will need to be blown clean soon. Bottom slots on the side operation seem to be clean and cool. Isn't the bottom where the raspberry pi CPU is located?
I agree mine acts the same way as yours. Even the case runs cooler sideways with the heatsink pointed up. I copied the part of the email they sent out about placing it sideways ( my first thought was your post): Running your Apollo II in Balanced or Turbo mode requires more airflow over the top slots to keep the power supply cooled with our passive airflow technology.
The Apollo II is designed to be run on a flat surface that restricts the amount of airflow that goes in through the bottom vs top this means:
1) DO NOT place your unit sideways. While this might reduce fan RPMs slightly it will cause your power supply to over heat due to not enough airflow through the top. This is also the case for shelves that have wire mesh or not a flat solid surface |
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Hello, is there a recommended max Temperature for the Apollo 2 full node and miners that is a healthy steady temp for long-term use? Asking because I'd like to try to maintain BALANCED mode as much as possible, but if the indoor temp increases, I would just reduce it to ECO until indoor temp drops again.
Check out the post from jstefanop on August 16, 2024- #2397 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5340015.msg64433384#msg64433384He addresses some heat limits there. Cheers! Thanks, I did see this, I'm also wondering if there is a recommended temp range per mode (ECO, BALANCED, etc.), not just a max of 80c. I'm trying to maximize the lifespan and not just try to stay under the max. jstefanop, any thoughts? Fan speed and air flow and temp. My unit runs balanced at 69-71 deg. C. 3600RPM optimal. When it gets hotter RPM jumps to 3800 rpm. That is optimal to me. Also I have my unit turned sideways to get maximum airflow through the bottom(now the side)vents. These bottom vents give maximum cooling flow. Top vents are too restrictive. In ECO mode they are ok. Fan runs too hard when all the vents are faced down. Room temp 74-78 deg F. 1" stilts or a open frame stand to lay flat Turbo mode works, but then it sounds like an antminer with turbo fan. 3600RPM is ok. 3800RPM is a little loud and happens when ambient temp increases above 78F. Check and blow dust out every 2 / 3 months. The fan speed would also indicate this when it increases unexpectedly at lower temps. Listen to your fan as a heartbeat telling you how your miner is doing. I haven't been able to leave my apollo II alone for extended periods. My unit is still not stable enough. I've had occasional power brownout surge knock my apollo offline and shut down running high speed fan. No remote reset or monitoring beyond the firewall for me. It can run 7 days non-stop with no issues then the node crashes after only 1 or 2 days of a reboot. v2.0.6 didn't work for me. Apollo would freeze. Crashed more often than v2.0.5. Still running v2.0.5 stable. eagleye did you get the email from FutureBit telling us not to run them on their side? My temps are defiantly lower on its side but they say it could not properly cool the psu. |
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I just rebooted the node and everything is up and running on v2.0.5. I'll stay here since my node has been running well and I don't want to fix whats not yet broken on the node until these update bugs are fixed. I don't want to have to go through reflashing a good memory card.
That is my thoughts as well. I am mining with 2 other miners using the node as well, all 3 using diff wallets and no problems. So no reason to chance updating it. |
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New release is finally out...apologize once again for this being over a month late but this should have squashed a large number of bugs and should be super stable before we start working on a big 2.1 feature release. As always if you do an OTA update please wait at least half an hour or simply close the tab out and start a new one and wait for the UI to come up (if UI shows 0% update has finishes and you can refresh) 2.1 will also include a new update mechanism that will eliminate update failure and make process way smoother Apollo OS v2.0.6 - 11/26/24https://github.com/jstefanop/apolloapi-v2/releases/tag/v2.0.6New Changes in v2.0.6: - Redesigned Solo Miner Page making it easy to keep track of multiple miners/wallets mining on the solo pool! Stats are organized by individual wallet addresses, and each wallet address can have multiple workers (ie address.worker1 address.worker2 etc). - Node connection count has been upped to 64 connections by default for more robust peering especially during solo mining - Pesky 32bit and graphQL errors have finally been squashed...small number of users that were affected by this should not see this again - UI improvements, especially for small format screens and mobile UI - Improved reliability of node startup during boot, which should reduce "Connection Refused" Node errors for some users - Multiple UI bug fixes, and backend improvements For us having no issues running v2.0.05 is there any reason to update to v2.0.6 and just wait for v2.1 ? |
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Hi, I have an Apollo 2 (both node and standard miners) and I’m also getting a BitAxe. Question, if I want to connect the BitAxe to my Apollo 2s, would it properly allocate work to the BitAxe? Meaning, I wouldn’t want the BitAxe to repeat hashing the same hashes as the Apollo 2 miners but add additional (unique) hash rate. Is this automatically managed by the Apollo or are there settings to ensure there is no duplicate hashing?
The way I understand it is, all miners are working to solve the same next block, and it's more of a race to see you cracks it first. There are some advantages some have, a few are due to internet connections and some pools/miners are thought to hold back, so they can start on the next one before anybody else. I tend to think this is a possibility when you see a pool/large miner hit 2 blocks minutes apart. I should have clarified that I am SOLO mining. I am just wondering whether hooking up a different miner (from a different manufacturer like BitAxe) to the Apollo 2 node/miners will result in a proper distribution of work assigned to each of the Apollo and non-Apollo miners. I want to make sure that the BitAxe doesn't replicate the same hashes as the Apollo miners but hashes on a different set of nonces (or extra nonces). @jstefanop, can you please confirm? I have 2 Avalon Nano3 miners mining thru my Apollo and so far the Avalon's have hit higher best shares, they are all mining independently of each other. |
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Hi, I have an Apollo 2 (both node and standard miners) and I’m also getting a BitAxe. Question, if I want to connect the BitAxe to my Apollo 2s, would it properly allocate work to the BitAxe? Meaning, I wouldn’t want the BitAxe to repeat hashing the same hashes as the Apollo 2 miners but add additional (unique) hash rate. Is this automatically managed by the Apollo or are there settings to ensure there is no duplicate hashing?
The way I understand it is, all miners are working to solve the same next block, and it's more of a race to see you cracks it first. There are some advantages some have, a few are due to internet connections and some pools/miners are thought to hold back, so they can start on the next one before anybody else. I tend to think this is a possibility when you see a pool/large miner hit 2 blocks minutes apart. |
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Well, silly me. I didn't know you could purchase directly from FutureBit so I bought an Apollo II 1TB from BitCoinMerch.
Sam from BitCoinMerch just informed me that there is nothing they will do about my ded Apollo II because it's 3 days out of their 30-day warranty. Yes, 3 days. Delivered on Oct 15, went ded on Nov 17.
So word to the wise, think twice before buying from a place like BitCoinMerch that only offers a 30-day warranty.
I'm hoping for mercy from FutureBit. I filled out their support form yesterday, but last time I did that (to ask a setup clarification), it took them 7-days to respond.
If FutureBit won't help me, I'm out ~ $1200 and now have a stylish paper weight.
In the meantime, BitCoinMerch won't be getting any more of my business.
Did you buy it with a credit card? If so file a claim/charge back against BitCoinMerch. If FutureBit is no help a VO meter is your best friend to check the PSU and the switch which was mentioned to be a problem. |
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Well, less than 30 days and this POS is ded. WTF? Apollo II, 1 TB. Came home and it was off. Won't power back on. Unplugged, let it sit, plugged it back in, nothing. Any ideas?
I wonder if the PSU went out? Should be covered under warranty |
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