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81  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Official BitShares X support thread. [BTSX] on: July 24, 2014, 08:02:32 AM
Withdrawing btsx from bter.com took less than 2 minutes. There is still a 5000 btsx per day withdrawal limit, but that is supposed to be raised soon.
82  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: BitShares X Now Trading!!! on: July 24, 2014, 05:40:20 AM
How could government "take over" bitshares?

Do all DPOS delegates currently operate anonymously over TOR, only identifying themselves with a random pseudonym?  Is TOR actually useful and not prone to timing attacks?  Can DPOS be scaled while using TOR?  Are all DPOS delegates supposedly distributed worldwide, but all located on the same Amazon server?  What percent of DPOS delegates are actually unique individuals?

That's how?

Admittedly, PoW is in the same boat, if not far worse off, but until questions like this can be addressed, DPOS isn't exactly bulletproof.

Supposedly the DPOS delegates are spread over many regulatory jurisdictions and do not all need to be anonymous. Take one down and the next in line steps up.
83  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: TITAN Infographic - Transfer invisibly to any name (BitShares feature) on: July 24, 2014, 04:13:17 AM
Does it means that the public dunno how much bitcoin Dan transfer to Stan?

Yup, and can't know how much you transfer to me  Smiley
84  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: BitShares X Now Trading!!! on: July 24, 2014, 04:10:45 AM
In my opinion, why Bitshares is the Pandora's box of crypto:

I was kind of foggy on what exactly would happen in the future with crypto until recently, but I think Daniel Larimer has unknowingly sealed it's fate with DPOS.  Governments don't like to be ejected from money affairs.  I foresee them taking something like DPOS, and instead of having 101 delegates, they will simply make each member of the UN a delegate, and boom, you have your New World Order, sovereign approved currency.

That scenario could be good in some ways, since it would most likely make things finite, or get rid of unaccountable government spending in other words, but through increased globalization, it could also be the start of world government, or god know's what else.

*this is not an endorsement to buy bitshares, since they would most likely just clone it and not actually use bitsharesX

Not sure what's that meant to mean?

POW is much better suited to NWO. Just buy some mining equipment offer the best pool rates and before you know it you'll control 51% of the system without Bitcoin holders being able to have a say - Ghash.io.

That kind of situation requires timely government planning and subterfuge.  You might get an actual, decentralized Bitcoin network for a decade or two before it happens.  PoW is kind of designed where it's impractical for the government to force it onto people.  Waste tons of energy for a government to impose their sovereign power, which they can already do anyway?  If the government was against Bitcoin, the odds of them flat out destroying it are a million times higher than them taking it over and forcing you to use it.  DPOS is a very practical thing for a government to take over and force you to use, such as the example I made about them assigning each UN member as a delegate.

For better or worse, DPOS is the best suited cryptocurrency for governments to deploy as a "new world order" currency.  Whether they would take over Bitshares, or just clone it and assign delegates themselves is another mystery.  They would most likely enjoy it's built in plutocratic voting mechanisms regardless.

How could government "take over" bitshares?

Why would anyone follow government's clone?

Bithsares is the closest to a goverfnment-free system I have ever seen.

85  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: TITAN Infographic - Transfer invisibly to any name (BitShares feature) on: July 24, 2014, 03:56:57 AM
Titan works! It is so cool to send to a name and skip the long address thing.
86  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Official BitShares X support thread. [BTSX] on: July 23, 2014, 09:38:02 PM
Still buggy, but very impressive! I was able to load the client on my laptop, but not on my desktop - both Windows but different releases.
87  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Annual 10% bitcoin dividends if mining were Proof-of-Stake on: April 25, 2014, 03:43:47 AM
Another way of saying it is that PoW distributes coins to those who invest in mining equipment. PoS distributes coins to those invest in coins. It really doesn't seem that much different - invest in X, get coins. If PoW and PoS can both support the functioning and security of a cryptocurrency equally well, then PoS seems superior because it does not waste energy and would have a wider distribution than PoW.

The only way to get PoS shares is to buy them from an adopter.  There are two ways to get PoW coins: buy them or find them yourself.  This is key.  

Based on the results of SlipperySlope's poll, it looks like there is a slight preference for PoW.  But I seem to be the only one here arguing for it.  Probably because we've had this debate many times and if you actually want to create a PoS spin-off go right ahead.  No one is stopping you.  In fact, I would like to see what happens. 

The market will decide whether or not it has merit.

That's it for me guys.  Off to sushi...

I don't understand why needing to buy from an adopter is bad thing. Isn't mining essentially buying coins from ASIC manufacturers and energy companies?

You're right logically. However, human psychology isn't always logical.  Having the "option" to mine your own coins makes one feel that it is more of an open system and seeing that "work was done" gives it more perceived value.


Sounds to me like you have touched upon the true heart of the matter. Emotional attachments prevail.
88  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Annual 10% bitcoin dividends if mining were Proof-of-Stake on: April 24, 2014, 09:07:01 PM
I would argue that PoS adoption uses more electricity that a PoW global system.

OK. Let's hear your argument.
89  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Bitshares Website Launched! on: March 28, 2014, 11:05:05 PM
yes but can it run on n-scrypt ? is it asic resistant ? ... copy paste scam clone coin...





//irony

Your ignorance shines through (commenting without having first investigated).
90  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Bitshares Website Launched! on: March 28, 2014, 08:22:26 PM
I see Sergio Lerner is being highlighted in the March newsletter as a new Invictus consultant, but I don't see him listed in the website Team section. Is he an active contributor to the project yet?
91  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Introducing Keyhotee - Next Generation Identity, DNS, Messaging, and Wallet on: March 08, 2014, 11:32:44 PM
It is a giant endeavor. I hope you really have the financial resource and manpower to make a steady progress.

From what I've seen, Invictus.io has had one of the greatest crowdfunding
successes of all time - and is actively seeking, funding in place, more highly skilled and motivated developers. Paradigm shifting events just ahead.
92  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [ANN]BitFund:Descendant of BitShares on: March 03, 2014, 08:06:02 PM
I have never seen so many sock puppets on one thread before.

The number of newbies with one or two or a few posts who are "interested", "interested too", "ok", "interested in", "I'm interested", etc. etc. is truly astounding.

The OP became a NEW member of bitcointalk.org just to give us this "opportunity"? What are your other registration names on this forum? I'd really like to check out other "opportunities" you promote.
93  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Centralized exchanges and the next BitCoin... (MtGox related) on: February 21, 2014, 05:26:44 AM
There are several projects in development.

See bitshares, ethereum, ripple, mastercoin, and others.
94  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE ANN] HashShares[HAS] Scrypt PoW with Bitcoin PoS on: January 14, 2014, 02:29:40 AM
What are your previous/other usernames at bitcointalk and at bitsharestalk?
95  Economy / Speculation / Re: It's over. The Ponzi scheme is coming down. Goodnight sweet bitcoin. on: December 18, 2013, 03:21:57 AM
The OP posted once in 2011, in Chinese, and then not again until 2013 with all his negative posts - and now always in English. Check out his posting history.

It appears his mission is an attempt at market manipulation through spreading negativity.FUD
96  Economy / Securities / Re: yochdog - Bitcoin Mining Company - BTCMC on: December 03, 2013, 09:05:56 PM
I look forward to tomorrow, December 4th, the promised date of distribution of of the entire settlement of BitCorp Mining, with great anticipation.
97  Economy / Auctions / Re: 4 KnC Jupiters +/- 550GH/s stable, IN HAND - IMMEDIATE DELIVERY on: November 07, 2013, 11:09:25 PM

4 @ 10 BTC each

I could have sworn that BTCMC was out of business?

Contrary to myth and popular belief, I am able to multi-task!

Not all of my business interests are consolidated in one entity. 

Yes, I am able to multi-task too. But my funds have been held up in BTMC for a very very long time now so I can't. Not even the proceeds from mining the Butterfly Ascics before thay were sold have been distributed to shareholders (with the possible exception of the majority shareholder - who seems to have btc for all kinds of endeavors except distributing to his long suffering shareholders)
98  Economy / Auctions / Re: 4 KnC Jupiters +/- 550GH/s stable, IN HAND - IMMEDIATE DELIVERY on: November 07, 2013, 09:49:57 PM

4 @ 10 BTC each

I could have sworn that BTCMC was out of business?
99  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [PPC] Free Peercoin Giveaway - Just post your wallet on: November 06, 2013, 08:28:22 AM
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Thank you
100  Economy / Securities / Re: yochdog - Bitcoin Mining Company on: October 31, 2013, 08:06:45 PM
Quote from: iCEBREAKER on July 27, 2013, 02:52:23 PM
hi YD,

Thx for update.  What is the July 7 BLF payday?

Have you tried scrypt mining at multipool.in or middlecoin?

once you have inventory done maybe Diablo will finally auction our stake, which could help you find the right price for the rest.

For the ASICS I lined up for BTCMC, the paydate is July 7th.

Until they start shipping that pay-date, we are stuck in the mud.


You must have received the ascics from BFL by now. How about anj update on what is going on with our investment?

3 BFL singles were received and have been mining away.

The remaining equipment is about 70% liquidated, the remaining is in process. 

I expect to make a liquidation payment on everything but the BFL equipment in October. 


Since it is now the last day of October, would you please respect your shareholders/partners with an update?
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