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Butterfly are coming out with another new scams, Stay Away Don't Buy any Pre Orders because they Don't have stocks and they Don't Accept Credit Cards.
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You have already been Burnt Badly, Please Stay Away from Pre Orders with No Credit Card Payments and No Stocks. Don't ever Buy from this Scamsters.
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Atleast I do care, this team has a very high potential.
Btw. I do expect CC and/or PayPal payments to be accepted. Bitcoin only is not a very good option based on the bad history in these forums.
Yes, we will accept paypal. Now that you agreed to accept credit cards and paypal until proven, we hope you have stocks on hand and guarantee delivery time, and your refund policy. may you have a reasonable price per hash, something much lower than those from x-crowd and hashfast. |
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No one cares for your pre-order nonsense, come back when you have something in hand and ready to ship.
We have received hundreds of emails inquiring about our prices. So, some people seem to care. Therefore we are releasing the prices sooner than planned. ...and this has nothing to do with x-crowd, or hashfast also tying their hardest to lock people in all ironically at the exact same time, right now, for the exact same period of time, till January?  We are aware of the other players in this space, so also are the customers. Based on the emails we have received it is apparent that people are very eager to know soon how the competition stack up in terms of performance, efficiency, and pricing. We want to provide people choices and let them decide! What make you think that you are not a Scam? How you can proof that you are NOT a Scam? |
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Only people who preorder will ever make money.
If there was a miner being sold that you could get right now and it was profitable, everyone would buy it, difficulty would rise and it would no longer be profitable.
Only people who take a risk and preorder will ever have a chance of making a profit from mining.
I think it's great that you are telling everyone not to pre-order. Thats means more for me!
It's a gamble, some pre-orders have worked out, some haven't
Pre-orders that were good ideas:
- Avalon Batch 1
- Early Jalapenos
- Avalon batch 2
Bad ideas:
- pretty much anything else from BFL
- Avalon batch 3
- probably Avalon chips, but too early to tell
don't forget scam pre-orders  What I think we need is some kind of community authenticated pre-order product check in order to at least set a % of risk as to persons Identity as well as other facts. However unrealistic to expect, we have lacked transparency with respects manufactures claims. Thus far Bitfury has raised the bar for ASIC details proven prior to taking pre-orders..
Yes Please avoid any Pre Orders, and if they don't have stocks please don't Buy, and if they don't accept credit cards please Don't Buy. |
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Cointerra you guys should release some rough specs on what kind of gh miners you are expecting, there is no point in waiting anymore, with all the influx of manufacturers. x-crowd is going to take orders starting Monday again.
Again there is absolutely no reason for you to keep quite about your hardware, unless you haven't even priced anything yet which means you are very far behind. Or at least give some $/gh numbers.
Yes Nothing To Show and No Proof |
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Very Expensive per Gh/s and they don't accept credit cards and don't have any stocks available . So please Stay Away
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Hello,
Can you clarify the 6,6$/GH statement please?
What is the minimum volume to get this price?
Do you add the 20% VAT witch is standard in UK?
(would make price go up to about 8$)
Thank you
Very Expensive per Gh/s and they don't accept credit cards and don't have any stocks. So please Stay Away |
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Remember No Pre Order and Don't Buy If They Do Not Have Stocks. Don't Buy if they don't accept credit cards or paypal.
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What's the point of showing us the case when you don't have the chips. Is like showing us the egg without the chicken. You cannot have an egg without the chicken laying/produce an egg. Show us the Chip Please.
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Not worth risks without guarantee on time delivery and credit cards payments option. No Pre Order and avoid pre order at all costs.
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Nothing to Proof and Nothing to show? so Stay Away.
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Are they going to calculate ROI in BTC or USD? Because they are taking payments in BTC so if they are banking on the price of BTC going up to claim ROI in USD terms that is lame. There haven't been enough specifics to know what their thinking is on this. My Expectations is that ROI will be in BTC terms since I paid in BTC.
my basic understanding of this is that everything will be calculated in BTC, but yes, you'll have to get it straight from the company. actually, i believe i remember Simon somewhere buried back in one of these threads said that only enough BTC will be returned to equal the original $5600. you'd better check on that. I read through Simon's posts and could find no such thing. Just: Orders are taken in BTC, in the unlikely event we get to refunds they will be given in BTC.
So I expect refunds to made in accordance to the Bitpay receipt of payment. In my case:  Of course, if HashFast just ships in time and as promised all this is moot. What makes you different from them, broken promises, using customer miner for their own mining. Stay Away, Don't Buy Pre Order. Do they accept PP and credit cards? |
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Be wary of Hashfast. They only accept Bitcoin (so there's no chargeback if they don't deliver) and haven't proved anything about their product to be legitimate yet. Those things together make it seem very fishy.
Stay Away and be careful. No Pre Orders. Do they Accept Credit Cards? |
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WOW, I never knew they would charge so high per gh/s with nothing to show and proof? Who are you and what's their background? No Pre Orders and only order when have stocks.
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Right on the best way to my message across. Don' Buy if they don't have any stocks.
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It is all going to hash for the Avalon team, like they did it form start. There are hundred thousands of BTC on their mining addresses. like: http://blockchain.info/address/158mVoizfU3xPxGGchGtnsKSixGs9XTo6v and many others... Also We will not see BTC price rising as long as they dont stop loadout on exchange at 100$ rate, wich they do on random basis (spending on hookers and gambling). Thay did everything they say they wont do. They premine, take over of BTC network payouts, but NOT 51% attack, because community will react fast, so they keep it silently and take most of coins through mining. I believe nobody has an idea how much coins they mine... Yes he is using your batch 3 miners and the asic chip you order for his own mining for a couple of months before he send them to you |
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Making sure everyone got my Message
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They are 2 many scams and vendors breaking their promises on pre orders, so don't, don't and DON'T BUY Pre Orders.
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They were so many new threads on hashfast seems like they are desperate to take your money. beware and stay away. No Pre orders and they don't accept credit cards or Paypal so stay clear.
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